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Title: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Torgo on July 31, 2008, 09:33:37 PM
One of my sisters sent this to me today and I thought it was pretty funny as I just turned 33 this past March.

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The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd
 
If you are 30 or older you will think this is hilarious!!!!
 
When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were when they were growing up; what with walking twenty-five miles to school every morning ... uphill BOTH ways... yadda, yadda, yadda
 
And I remember promising myself that when I grew up, there was no way in hell I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on kids about how hard I had it and how easy they've got it!
 
But now that...
 
I'm over the ripe old age of thirty, I can't help but look around andnotice the youth of today. You've got it so easy!
I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a damn Utopia!
And I hate to say it but you kids today you don't know how good you've got it!
 
1. When I was a kid we didn't have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the card catalog!!
 
2. There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter ... with a pen! Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the mailbox and it would take like a week to get there!
 
3. There were no MP3's or Napsters! You wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the damn record store and shoplift it yourself!  Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and screw it all up!
 
4. We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!
 
5. And we didn't have fancy Caller ID Boxes either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mom, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, a collections agent, you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!
 
6. We didn't have any fancy Sony Playstation video gameswith high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had the Atari 2600! With games like 'Space Invaders' and 'asteroids' and the graphics were horrible! Your guy was a little square! You actually had to use your imagination! And there were no multiple levels or screens; it was just one screen forever! And you could never win. The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just like LIFE!
 
7. When you went to the movie theater there no such thing as stadium seating! All the seats were the same height! If a tall guy or some old broad with a hat sat in front of you and you couldn't see, you were just screwed!
 
8. Sure, we had cable television, but back then that was only like 15 channels and there was no onscreen menu! You had to use a little bookcalled a TV Guide to find out what was on!
 
And there was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning . Do you hear what I'm saying!?! We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons!
 
9. And we didn't have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up, we hadto use the stove or go build a fire ... imagine that! If we wanted popcorn, we had to use that stupid Jiffy Pop thing or a pan with HOT oil and Real popcorn kernels and shake it all over the stove forever like an idiot.
 
10. When we were on the phone with our friends and our parents walked-in, we were stuck to the wall with a cord, a 7 foot cord that ran to the phone - not the phone base, the actual phone.  We barely had enough length to sit on the floor and still be able to twirl the phone cord in our fingers.   If you suddenly had to go to the bathroom - guess what we had to do.....hang up and talk to them later.
 
That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled.
 
You guys wouldn't have lasted five minutes back in 1980!
 
Regards,
The over 30 Crowd


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on July 31, 2008, 10:37:42 PM
I'm over 40 and we had no cable, you had 3 channels that went off the air at midnight and that was it. You young whippersnapper don't even know what a test pattern is.

Atari 2800 - I don't think so, we had Rock'em Sock'em Robots which generally led to Rock'em Sock'em 10 year olds, which you mom standing there coaching you.

When I was kid we had to go out side and play, imagine that no air conditioning in the sun .. what? The Sun it's that big orange thing in the sky.

You wanted a quick meal, there was no delivery there was TV dinners that took freaking 45 minutes to heat and the mash potatoes were still frozen in the middle.

There's more but I'm to old to remember them ...

You, you wouldn't last a minute in 1970.

and ends our broadcast day, have a pleasant evening. (Queue the National Anthem)

 :wink:

 


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: ghouck on July 31, 2008, 11:05:23 PM
I had to explain to my kid why they call it "dialing" on a telephone. I'm surprised that question doesn't come up more often.

But, , ,with gas ~$5.00 a gallon, , not everything is better. . .

They didn't even go into the whole computer word-processing/spell checking/I email my homework to my teacher so I don't have to worry about someone stealing my homework situation. .


Also, remember making pipe bombs? You got caught and the cops told your parents. You know what happens these days if you get caught making an explosive device? There's a guy in our prison for making 3 pipebombs and blowing up a, , GASP!, , mound of dirt. We also didn't have to worry about getting shot for wearing the wrong color of shoes (although that seems to be fading away also. .)


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Menard on July 31, 2008, 11:13:34 PM
I actually feel sorry for kids today.

When I went to school, I never had to walk through a metal detector, wear uniform clothes, or talk to therapists and police just because me and another kid got into a shouting match screaming that we were going to kill each other.

When I was 8, a dollar would buy you a coke, a comic book ,a candy bar, and get you into a movie; and that was much less than minimum wage. Today? A comic book is $4, and I don't even want to think what a movie cost as it has been so long since I have seen one in a theatre.

My first job in high school was $3 an hour. That went a long way in 1979. Triple that today and see how far that will go; not near as far.

The music we listened to was pure trash rock and roll that our parents hated; not bubble gum inspired pop that has parents begging their kids to listen to something with indecent lyrics.

I thought the time I grew up in was pretty cool. I'd hate to be a kid today.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Patient7 on July 31, 2008, 11:44:44 PM
I have given karma to everyone on this thread, (virtually to Menard).

Torgo- That E-mail made me laugh, and my generation does have it quite easy.  HOWEVER, I happen to LOVE older video games, your cable stations had EVERYTHING, now we have to get Pay-Per-View to watch any big events, and I've made stove-top Jiffy Pop once and I did pretty well if I say so myself.

Cheezee- You just proved over how easy I got it.

ghouck- you're right, GAS PRICES SUCK!  Imagine being 16 and not being able to go anywhere because gas is too costly!  And where I live, pretty much everywhere that there is good times to be had requires a vehicle.  I'm just happy I don't live in Alaska, it's quite a bit there.

Menard-  YES!  YES!  YES!  Crap costs a lot, idiots made the parents go crazy, and I have to listen to Fergie on the radio, as said before, I like socially older things and that includes Rock music, not modern rock not much good comes from that.  Where's my Guns and Roses?

In conclusion, I feel that all kids today need a swift kick in the bum so they stop annoying me.  And bring back some classic pac-man!


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Shadow on August 01, 2008, 12:00:45 AM
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8. Sure, we had cable television, but back then that was only like 15 channels and there was no onscreen menu! You had to use a little bookcalled a TV Guide to find out what was on!

I'd like to add that back in the 70's and before, there were no VCR's (ok, there were some in the 70's, but they cost too much, weighed a ton and were as big as suitcases so few people had them), let alone DVR's, Tivo and programming on demand. Back then, if you wanted to watch something that aired at two in the morning...you had to wait, stay up and then watch it, commercials and all. If you missed it, you were SOL. You might have to wait months or years before that movie was aired again.

I think this is why so many of us have a strong tolerance for bad movies. As kids we stayed up late and sat through some truly awful stuff, but only because that was the only way to see some of these films. We took our chances with the late night movie. Sometimes it paid off and other times it didn't...but we still had a blast. :thumbup:


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: dean on August 01, 2008, 03:55:06 AM

Pfft.  Atari rocked, and I'm under 30!

Oh, and us 'kids' don't have it easy, we're just better at it...  :teddyr:


Ok so I'm kidding, put your walking canes away you old folks!!!

I'll leave the social commentary off this post, but I really have to ask about the last point, number 10:

People are free from cords on their phones so now they go to the bathroom whilst on the phone at will?  Eww............  That must be a priority for those older folks with weaker bladders...


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: RCMerchant on August 01, 2008, 06:07:32 AM
One thing I DO like about today is vcr tapes and dvd's.
Back when I was a little  bat,we to get to see old monster movies,you had to rely on late night tv and Creature Feature or Shock theater. To see a newer film, (like FROGS or DR.PHIBES or the latest Hammer horror) you had to be lucky enuff to catch it at the theater. Or wait untill it came to TV,chopped up,cut,and loaded with commercials. No boobies,blood,or cussing...that was all cut out! And the reception was iffy. You had to twist the rabbit ears,or hook wires or coat hangers onto the uhf antenna  to pull in channels like 28 from Indiana at 12:30 at night to catch obscure crap like MUTINY in OUTER SPACE or BEAST of MOROCCO on Creature Feature.
 It was a rare treat when Dad would drop us of on Saterday afternoons to catch a double bill of PSYCHIC KILLER and RACE WITH THE DEVIL at the old movie house. Things are more convienet now...but it made the HUNT more exciting. To finally catch an old classic like the SON OF FRANKENSTEIN at last!At last! Or the 5 mile bike ride to grab that last Famous Monsters off the news stand,with money hard earned by picking fruit for farmers or shoveling earcorn outta a bin. It made us appreciate the rewards of work and patience.

 And to relive or keep your memories fresh, you read stuff like Famous Monsters of Filmland, Castle of Frankenstien, and the Monster Times(which was printed on newsprint....like a newspaper. )

Memories,like the blah blah of my mind...misty muddy water meeeeeemories of the way we (HACK! COFF! COFF!) were......!!!!


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Trevor on August 01, 2008, 08:03:36 AM
"Now listen, children....." [trevor lets go one in the rocking chair, takes out his teeth, licks them clean and puts them back]  :buggedout:

When IIIIIIIIIIIIIII was a young man...........

1. Water came out of the tap, not out of a bottle.

2. You couldn't carry your phone with you, you would get arrested for traffic obstruction carrying a pole and a few million miles of cable if you did that.

3. We had things like seven singles, LPs and cassettes. Headphones were not small, you looked like you had two pans on either side of your head.

4. There were no PC's, only typewriters.

5. THERE WAS NO INTERNET!!!  :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout:

6. There was no Google: only a thing called an ency...encyclops, ag, something with one eye anyway.

7. Take away food meant you took it away from the kitchen.

8. No flat screen TVs: the only time you had one of those was when your Dad chucked it out the window.

9. We only had two channnels on TV when I was younger: one was crap and the other worse. Worse still: it was in BLACK and WHITE!  :buggedout: :buggedout:

10. There were no video machines or DVD players back then: you saw a movie at the cinema and that was it.

11. Fast food was the bad meal that you ate quickly and then puked up later.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Sister Grace on August 01, 2008, 08:12:01 AM
Well, I'm almost thirty, my birthday is in November. When I look around at newer generations, some things just amaze me.
For one, we didn't have dishwashers or trash compacters when i was kid (i'm sure some did but not at my house) and as far as chores went, grown ups did not do chores.. as kids household chores were our way  of earning our keep.

Also, if you did something wrong, your parents could smack the crap out of you with their hand or anything they could find and no one said a word. At that time, they were just being parents.

My highschool however did have metal detectors and all the hallways were supervised with cameras.

Also, if you got out and got in trouble and the cops roughed you up a bit, police brutality was never screamed..instead you just shouldn't have been out doing what you were doing.

We played outside alot. If you were in the neighborhood somewhere and your parents needed ahold of you, they came and looked for you, they never called an 8 yr old child on a cell phone.

Also, when you were 16, you got a job... when you were 18, you moved out and were your own responsibility.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: indianasmith on August 01, 2008, 08:12:32 AM
What can I say?  You guys have covered it all.  

I remember having only 5 channels on TV, and if the President was making a speech . . . you were screwed.  To this day I don't like Richard Nixon because his resignation speech pre-empted DARK SHADOWS . . . and my sister made me watch him give it!!!


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on August 01, 2008, 08:48:38 AM
These kids today ... why I'd like to see one actually have to get up and change the channel or adjust the volume.


Seriously I feel sorry for kids today, so many lack basic skills, basic social skills and do not know how to interact with others. Last fall we went to a get together over turkey day and there was all these kids there and they were all setting not talking with their face crammed into a hand held gaming device.
They have no idea how to use their imagination, to go outside and build a fort or tree house, dam up a creek ... you know the crap those old people like me had to do as a kid.

When was the last time kids today build a box racer, just to discover why you need brakes.
(What a box racer Cheeze?) A box racer, some call it soap box racers is a wooden shipping crate you acquire form a store and put wooden axles on, basic steering, wheels and NO brakes and ride it down a steep hill with no way to stop but crash or bail out. So when you build version 2, after you heal from all the cuts and bruises you get from version 1 you make brakes, which is nothing more than a friction brake on the wheels which don't work that well.

Think of it as Mario Kart of the 1960's and 70's ... when game over had a completely different meaning.

Quote from: Indiana
What can I say?  You guys have covered it all.


What, oh come on! They're are tons of things we haven't covered yet! .... oh maybe you're just getting to old to remember.

Ever collect bottles for 3 cents a piece?
Load hay for 2 cents a bale.
Build a club house and have one old ratty Playboy you found in the trash as your only source of juvenile porn.
etc etc

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Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Trevor on August 01, 2008, 09:21:27 AM
Build a club house and have one old ratty Playboy some from in the trash as your on;y source of juvenile porn.
etc etc


 :bluesad: :bluesad:

I never had that: Playboy was banned where I grew up..... :bluesad: :bluesad:


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on August 01, 2008, 09:30:47 AM
:bluesad: :bluesad:

I never had that: Playboy was banned where I grew up..... :bluesad: :bluesad:

Well we started out with National Geographic and pictures of topless African natives with their long flat boobies.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: dean on August 01, 2008, 09:33:15 AM
These kids today ... why I'd like to see one actually have to get up and change the channel or adjust the volume.


Oh come on, that's unfair.  We know where the 'up' volume button is!  :teddyr:



Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Trevor on August 01, 2008, 09:47:01 AM
These kids today ... why I'd like to see one actually have to get up and change the channel or adjust the volume.


Oh come on, that's unfair.  We know where the 'up' volume button is!  :teddyr:


 :teddyr: :teddyr:

Up until 2005, I had an old push button TV and some young friends of mine asked me where the remote for the TV was. I said there wasn't one and they asked me how I change the channel and volume: I said I get up and do that.

They went  :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: on me. I now have a remote control TV.  :wink:


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Trevor on August 01, 2008, 09:48:06 AM
:bluesad: :bluesad:

I never had that: Playboy was banned where I grew up..... :bluesad: :bluesad:

Well we started out with National Geographic and pictures of topless African natives with their long flat boobies.

 :teddyr: :bouncegiggle: :teddyr:


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: ghouck on August 01, 2008, 11:51:17 AM
:bluesad: :bluesad:

I never had that: Playboy was banned where I grew up..... :bluesad: :bluesad:

Well we started out with National Geographic and pictures of topless African natives with their long flat boobies.

A friend and I got in trouble for "Compiling" our own "Playboy" from NG and taking it to school when we were in about the 5th grade. The principal and assistant principal had us in this room and the assistant was absolutely livid. I think he thought we were some serial rapists in the making, he was absolutely going off, and we just couldn't stop laughing. Finally the head Principal said something to the assistant about how I can tell it was just a joke, a couple of bored kids that think they are comedians, BFD. Shortly thereafter the school took out a bunch of the NG magazines from the library because kids realized there were boobies in them, presumably from our, as we called it, "Polish Playboy".


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: trekgeezer on August 01, 2008, 12:00:49 PM
Hey, I spent most of my childhood in the 60"s. TV wasn't in color until I was 11. I could buy a 16oz Pepsi (in a glass bottle) and a candy bar for quarter.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Torgo on August 01, 2008, 02:53:56 PM
The first video game system that I actually had was the Atari 5200.

My family didn't have the money to get an Atari 2600 but I got a 5200 for my birthday.

The joysticks sucked on it but it was cool to have almost arcade perfect versions of games  instead of the (sometimes) crappy Atari 2600 versions.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Menard on August 01, 2008, 04:17:58 PM
The first video game system that I actually had was the Atari 5200.

My family didn't have the money to get an Atari 2600 but I got a 5200 for my birthday.

The joysticks sucked on it but it was cool to have almost arcade perfect versions of games  instead of the (sometimes) crappy Atari 2600 versions.


I was in the same boat; my family couldn't afford the Atari when it first came out (expensive little sucker at that time).

Much later (like much later; in the early 90s) I bought a 7800 on closeout for about $35. Now that was cool. Not only did it play the 7800 games with much better graphics, it also played the older 2600 games but made them look better. Two of my favorites on it were Xenophobe and Xevious.

I have some classic arcade game remakes on my arcade (http://arcade.5g8.net/) if anybody wants to play them (I downloaded them from other sites; they're not my games :tongueout:).


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: ghouck on August 01, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Our first was a Telstar, it played 4 games, all pong variants. IIRC, it was pong, tennis (pong with two blocks on your side of the screen for each player), Hockey (Pong with two blocks, one was a goalie and one was a forward per player), and another that was "vertical pong", with both players having their block on the bottom, bouncing the ball UP. It was black and white, and ran off of batteries IIRC.

BTW, the best Atari 2600 Game ever was "Spacemaster X-7", followed closely by "Reactor"


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on August 01, 2008, 06:28:59 PM
I remember in 1972/3 standing in line to play this really cool new video game called PONG. It was mesmerizing.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Torgo on August 01, 2008, 08:58:27 PM
BTW, the best Atari 2600 Game ever was "Spacemaster X-7", followed closely by "Reactor"


My personal favorite 2600 game has always been Yars' Revenge.

(http://www.thealmightyguru.com/TheGuru/Projects/Images/YarsRevenge-Cartridge.jpg)



Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Menard on August 01, 2008, 09:32:23 PM
BTW, the best Atari 2600 Game ever was "Spacemaster X-7", followed closely by "Reactor"

My personal favorite 2600 game has always been Yars' Revenge.

I never got into that one myself, though it certainly has seemed popular. I do have it, or an emulation of it, on an Atari keychain joystick (may be the paddleball one); a keychain that you can plug into a standard TV set and play 3 old Atari games (ahem...with original graphics quality).


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Patient7 on August 02, 2008, 12:35:35 AM
BTW, the best Atari 2600 Game ever was "Spacemaster X-7", followed closely by "Reactor"


My personal favorite 2600 game has always been Yars' Revenge.

([url]http://www.thealmightyguru.com/TheGuru/Projects/Images/YarsRevenge-Cartridge.jpg[/url])




Amazing, I have that game at my grandparent's house.  I'm not calling you old that's just where my family keeps our 2600.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: RCMerchant on August 02, 2008, 01:49:19 AM
Games....
 I recall a game...it was called Kick the Can...kinda like a midnight version of Hide and Seek...which included the arcane line..."OLLY OLLY OXEN FREE!!"
 Also ...a game called Red Light Green Light . The rules: One person would stand at on end of the field,while the others stood at the other end. the sole person would holler "GREEN LIGHT!" and everyone would start running. Then He would yell "RED LIGHT!" and the runners would have to freeze-like statues in whatever goofy looking position you were at while running. This nonsense would continue untill one of the runners reached the end of the field. Whoever got the the end first,won! Then it was his turn to do the Red Light,Green Light honors. It was  really  fun... :smile:

Don't look at me like that,you kids! It WAS FUN.

 No...really...it was....!

(sigh)  :bluesad:


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Sister Grace on August 02, 2008, 09:01:52 AM
Games....
 I recall a game...it was called Kick the Can...kinda like a midnight version of Hide and Seek...which included the arcane line..."OLLY OLLY OXEN FREE!!"
 Also ...a game called Red Light Green Light . The rules: One person would stand at on end of the field,while the others stood at the other end. the sole person would holler "GREEN LIGHT!" and everyone would start running. Then He would yell "RED LIGHT!" and the runners would have to freeze-like statues in whatever goofy looking position you were at while running. This nonsense would continue untill one of the runners reached the end of the field. Whoever got the the end first,won! Then it was his turn to do the Red Light,Green Light honors. It was  really  fun... :smile:

Don't look at me like that,you kids! It WAS FUN.

 No...really...it was....!

(sigh)  :bluesad:

My brother, cousins and I played alot of Kick the Can when i was a kid, sometime we would up the fun factor by arming ourselves with bamboo sticks, which was fun, but a little brutal.
I tried to teach my own kid how to play, but she just looked at me with pity...


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on August 02, 2008, 09:19:27 AM
Red rover, Red rover, send (insert name) on over ...


Ring around the rosy,
A pocketful of posies.
ashes, ashes.
We all fall down!.

(Scary part about this was it was about the plague.)


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Jack on August 02, 2008, 02:58:57 PM
When i was a kid, we didn't need an on-screen guide or even a TV guide - we only got two channels.  Anyone over the age of 4 had the TV schedule memorized.

Now I just bought a universal remote control that probably has 10 times more computing power than the Apollo lander.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Susan on August 02, 2008, 06:49:09 PM
I grew up ate 70's early 80's, I was also a military brat so I don't know if i was with the times or behind them.

TV
We had a b&w tv straight through the 70's, and it was probably less than 12". No cable, we didn't even have a remote control until about 1983. We did, however, have a VCR which we got friends in the US to tape movies for us since all we had was military tv stations. Yeah, and station sign off and rabbit ears. We watched whatever my parents wanted to watch with a few exceptions.

PHONE
We had a party line overseas. That mean sharing it with our neighbors. Rotary phone anyone? My very first phone was in 1986, it was a pink pulse phone. I got so tired of waiting for the pulses to dial i found out i could quickly dial numbers by slamming the hangup button in a 'morse code' sorta fashion dialing out the number. And we didn't have to dial area codes for local numbers, it may depend on where you live but in my city there are so many area codes i can't keep up.

ATARI/COMPUTER
We had an atari when it first came out, my brother a commodore. Later we got an IBM. And back then there wasn't windows. In fact there wasn't internet, just bbb's and i think they were expensive as my brother used it and my mother got mad once because of a phonebill that was in the hundreds. The games? All I remember was a pyramid card game and the one where you type out your adventures:
"Walk ahead"
"stop'
"Turn left"

TOYS/CLOTHES
We didn't get toys and clothes everytime we went to the store. In fact I don't think i knew a toy aisle existed until i was 10. the grocery store or commisary just had food. And we didn't have junk food in the house, maybe ice cream. Not until the mid 80's. And our clothes? We wore them out until my toes came through the shoe before getting a new pair. Xmas and Bdays were what you looked forward to back then because we didn't get anything the rest of the year, except visiting my grandparents and them buying me a rubber ball or paddle ball at the 5 and 10.

Kids today get lavish gifts. Computers, laptops, wii and game systems, cell phones, tv's, dvd players, and the amazing thing is parents think tha these are things they HAVE to have in this day and age. BS.  Add up the cost of all the electronics those kids own and that's probably more than what some of us have in our bank account. Especially if you tack on their allowances or the rewards they get for making goals, getting good grades and whatever.

It's a modern day twist of "Keeping up with the Joneses Kids".

this generation is going to grow up very materialistic, feeling they always have to have the latest of everything making them a very disposable generation. Not to mention they're going to be in the biggest debt creditwise. how will they fare in the working word when they realize they can't always get their way and people actualy expect them to work for their money. I wonder if it'll be the generation which finds themselves wanting to live with their parents forever




Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: JaseSF on August 02, 2008, 07:56:53 PM
TV: first one I ever owned as a kid was black and white and I was darn lucky to have that as most kids sure didn't. My parents had a couple of bigger color TVs but no bigger than 25 inches. We watched programs as a family more often than not believe it or not kiddies. Yep we were there together to watch The Jeffersons, Three's Company, The Dukes of Hazzard, the Evening News and the Price is Right.

As kids we were outdoors most of the time, until dark at least or unless it was rainy or snowy (sometimes though I loved being out playing in the snow if it wasn't too stormy)...snowforts, snow angels, playing pretend G.I. Joe and jumping over and into snowbank. In the summer months, there was Hide and Seek, Cowboys and Indians (we just pretended to be cowboys or indians and tried to act out the parts using sticks or whatever to represent guns or bows and arrows, some kids actually had those sticky arrows...guess that'd be too politically incorrect these days though  :bluesad: ), War (a game where you drew a map on the ground and challenged other people for their spot of territory, in order to gain it, u had to play a form of dodgeball, throwing a small stick or other item at the person who could move in their territory to try and duck it, if they did, they won the contest and got your territory, eventually one kid would win by gaining all the territory), hopscotch and more.

Board games were actually popular too back then. I remember when Pong was a big deal, being thrilled to be given an Atari 2600 for Christmas which I played for years and years before it finally gave out.

For less than 2 bucks, you could buy a soda pop, bag of chips and candy bar.

We actually got together and played baseball, softball, field hockey and even football on occasion.

We'd line up cans and/or bottles and try and knock them off an ledge or smash em in the case of the bottles. Still we searched for empties (beer bottles) to get enough money sometimes for candy bars, chips, whatever.

Ah the memories..........


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on August 02, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
When I was a kid if you wanted to watch TV, you'd better been damn good with a Etch-a-Sketch. If you wanted to change the channel you just held it upside down and shook it.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Menard on August 02, 2008, 09:37:35 PM
When I was a kid if you wanted to watch TV, you'd better been damn good with a Etch-a-Sketch. If you wanted to change the channel you just held it upside down and shook it.

I'm just taking a wild stab here that somehow there is some sense in that ( :lookingup:) and perhaps you mean that you didn't have a TV as a kid? (certainly would go a long way to disprove that TV was a bad influence :tongueout:)

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I had my own small B&W TV at about 6 or 7. My father was overseas in Thailand and was able to get a good deal on a small TV each for my sister and myself.

The family TV was never more than a 19 inch model color TV. The last one we had before my father passed away was a console model with a built in radio and record player.

I never got my own color TV until about the mid 90s. I just always had a cheap 12 inch B&W model until then.

We never had a video game system. Although cost was certainly an issue, even if it wasn't I don't think my father particularly cared for having one in the house occupying his TV; being the only color TV in the house. I was more into pinball anyway and my father was good at pool, which I never knew until I challenged him to a game and he proceeded to kick my ass royally.

The local gaming stops in town were the Minit Mart and the bait shop. The Minit Mart had a video game shoved into a small corner where we would hover taking turns to play it (Defender was our favorite). The bait shop had a pool table and pinball machine and more of us crowded that tiny little shop playing pool and pinball than those who actually bought fishing supplies. It was handy that the bait shop and Minit Mart were next door to each other.


I frankly feel that my generation has had it best. We have probably had the broadest scope of experiences from simpler times where games and fun was something to be had outdoors and a dime would actually buy something, to quite an advancement in technologies bringing much of what one would go out for into the home; and still young enough to see where this is going from here.

Hey, I experienced the 70s. The 70s was a damn cool place and time. :teddyr:


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: CheezeFlixz on August 02, 2008, 10:10:29 PM
Actually we had a old hand me down Philco Princess (Image below) ca. 1958 model. It was cool looking, but had a horrid picture, you had to use rabbit ears (the picture is of one with a radio antenna) with aluminum foil on them to try and get a picture. Sometimes when the antenna broke you'd stick a metal coat hanger in it that you bent out like a square and wrap it in aluminum foil to improve reception ... sometimes you could get 4 or 5 channels.
The horizontal hold was real touchy and if you turned the screen, it rotated it would start flipping out and loose the picture. We had it until about the 70's, when we got one of those huge piece of furniture TV with a small screen, it was still B/W and we didn't get color until the mid 70's.

I really like to have that set now ... I sure it went to the dump.
(http://www.tvhistory.tv/Predicta_TV1.jpg)


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: JaseSF on August 03, 2008, 12:21:59 AM
And oh yeah, we only had two channels. Forgot to mention that above although truth be told, without cable and/or satellite, you can still only get two channels here via use of an outdoors antenna.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Jack on August 03, 2008, 07:18:04 AM
I remember my senior year in high school, 1982.  For five bucks, you could get a pack of smokes AND put a quarter tank of gas in your car.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2008, 08:03:42 AM
What I really miss? NEWS STANDS.

 Lawton is a very small town. We have NO news stand. Sure...you can pick up crap like the National Inquirer and Women's Day and stoopid video game mags at the grocery stoe...but I mean REAL news stand! With tons of mags!

Back when I was a smaller pain in the a$$, Lawton had a nice nice stand where the local party store is now. You could get Famous Monsters of Filmland and all of the othe monster movie mags, comics...TONS of comics! Captain America,Conan,Sgt.Fury,Kid Colt,Monsters On the Prowl,Vampirella,Creepy, Sub-Mariener,Swamp Thing!  True West mags,World at War,True Crime mags-with half nekkid chicks on the cover threatened by scary hoods and punks, Hit Parader, Circus, Creem, UFO Report, Dracula Lives!, all the weird assorted expliotation mags! And on te top shelf were the nudies...I would sneak peeks at them...heh heh!


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Menard on August 03, 2008, 11:26:25 AM
Back when I was a smaller pain in the a$$...

I find it hard to believe you were ever a smaller pain in the a$$. :tongueout:


Lawton had a nice nice stand where the local party store is now. You could get Famous Monsters of Filmland and all of the othe monster movie mags, comics...TONS of comics! Captain America,Conan,Sgt.Fury,Kid Colt,Monsters On the Prowl,Vampirella,Creepy, Sub-Mariener,Swamp Thing!  True West mags,World at War,True Crime mags-with half nekkid chicks on the cover threatened by scary hoods and punks, Hit Parader, Circus, Creem, UFO Report, Dracula Lives!, all the weird assorted expliotation mags! And on te top shelf were the nudies...I would sneak peeks at them...heh heh!

Some youngsters today are taken back by me telling them that, in the 70s, not only did the drug stores have top shelf magazines, but you could buy them as a minor. I was buying girlie mags at 60 cents to a dollar at 10 years old at the local drug store.

Today?

We are so goddamn paranoid that overly paranoid and opressive store managers have to decide if this month's issue of a Potsie magazine like Maxim or the SI swimsuit issue is too much for them to carry it.

Sheesh!!! :lookingup:

It's okay to promote murder, hatred, and heavy metal (not that any of those are related) to 7 year olds, but show a woman's tit in a magazine for an adult and the whole f**king retail industry goes ballistic. Even worse, have any suggestion that the magazine is for black men and the management will make a beeline for it to find a reason not to carry it; of course, it's not racist, it's just maintaining standards :lookingup:.

I'll take freedom of choice and expression, equality, openness, and sex over someone's f**king country club standards any day.

Gee, I wonder how much of this post didn't make it through the expression filters. :lookingup:

That's ma rant fo today.


In case I offended anyone...


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Derf on August 03, 2008, 12:16:52 PM
Yay! Oldfart thread! I actually did have to regularly walk a mile to school in the snow, though it was uphill only one way. And it was grad school. It only snowed once here when I was in grade school (third grade); it sleeted about two inches, and the school let us go out and play in it. I can honestly say that sleet balls hurt.

Anyway, when I was a kid, I was my father's remote control. If he wanted to change channels, he'd just tell me to go turn the knob. We had the party line for a while, didn't get a push button phone 'til the late '70s, didn't get cable 'til the '80s (I think), and then it was with one of the boxes that had the little slider to change channels. My older brother bought the dirty magazines, but I knew where he hid 'em, and the school library had the Time-Life series on ecosystems, which included The Forest, which supplied many young lads with their first taste of topless native females. We played outside most of the time, and when I wasn't outside, I was usually reading (now I'm rarely outside, but I still read a lot). I would regularly just go out and cruise around town on my bike (a fancy-schmancy 12-speed racer from Western Auto), even in the heat of the day (which may explain quite a bit about me, actually). We didn't have much money (Mom was a teacher, Dad was a deputy sheriff), but I never really knew we were poor because we always had food on the table and there was always something to do.

Do kids today have it easier? Probably, but it's at the expense of human contact. Kids are raised today to think that a slight hit on the arm is an assault, and that a pat on the shoulder or *gasp* a hug from an adult is pedophilia. I'm an introvert who would love to live far, far away from other people, but even I think that's just sad.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: RCMerchant on August 03, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
Back when I was a smaller pain in the a$$...

I find it hard to believe you were ever a smaller pain in the a$$. :tongueout:


Lawton had a nice nice stand where the local party store is now. You could get Famous Monsters of Filmland and all of the othe monster movie mags, comics...TONS of comics! Captain America,Conan,Sgt.Fury,Kid Colt,Monsters On the Prowl,Vampirella,Creepy, Sub-Mariener,Swamp Thing!  True West mags,World at War,True Crime mags-with half nekkid chicks on the cover threatened by scary hoods and punks, Hit Parader, Circus, Creem, UFO Report, Dracula Lives!, all the weird assorted expliotation mags! And on te top shelf were the nudies...I would sneak peeks at them...heh heh!

Some youngsters today are taken back by me telling them that, in the 70s, not only did the drug stores have top shelf magazines, but you could buy them as a minor. I was buying girlie mags at 60 cents to a dollar at 10 years old at the local drug store.

Today?

We are so goddamn paranoid that overly paranoid and opressive store managers have to decide if this month's issue of a Potsie magazine like Maxim or the SI swimsuit issue is too much for them to carry it.

Sheesh!!! :lookingup:

It's okay to promote murder, hatred, and heavy metal (not that any of those are related) to 7 year olds, but show a woman's tit in a magazine for an adult and the whole f**king retail industry goes ballistic. Even worse, have any suggestion that the magazine is for black men and the management will make a beeline for it to find a reason not to carry it; of course, it's not racist, it's just maintaining standards :lookingup:.

I'll take freedom of choice and expression, equality, openness, and sex over someone's f**king country club standards any day.

Gee, I wonder how much of this post didn't make it through the expression filters. :lookingup:

That's ma rant fo today.


In case I offended anyone...

I 100% agree. Sex is evil. Killing is OK. What kinda F3cked up logic is that?! I have a page on the lousy escuse for a movie review site called FLIXTER. Some shmuck said that he wouldn't watch any movie with the word "Satan" in the title. So I go to see this guys page. Full of rap music sh!t and half nekkid women. OK. I got nothing against that, I reckon. To each his own. Yet,square in the center of his profile is a glittery thing with a cross that says-"JESUS SAVES!" Huh? 

# 1- He thinks that Satan in a movie title is evil.
#2-Pictures of Porno backer Lil Wayne covers his page.

 Hypicritacal a***ole. I have nothing against Christians. But if yer gonna preach Christ...and enjoy murder and sex in yer movie watching...dam. Get off it. I believe in God. But I ain't a Christian....
 I believe in a God simply because...well...I do. Do I believe that God is some holy perfect enity? NO.


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: Menard on August 03, 2008, 12:32:09 PM
I can honestly say that sleet balls hurt.


So sorry to hear that. (http://5g8.net/smileys/snicker.gif) (http://5g8.net)


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: ghouck on August 03, 2008, 09:16:54 PM
I grew up in the old days, when "safe sex" was not giving your REAL name. . 


Title: Re: The Spoiled Under 30 Crowd.
Post by: ghouck on August 03, 2008, 09:18:03 PM
I can honestly say that sleet balls hurt.


So sorry to hear that. ([url]http://5g8.net/smileys/snicker.gif[/url]) ([url]http://5g8.net[/url])


I hear penicillin helps with that.