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The Christmas shopping rush is for lunatics...more proof in this story.  RIP   :thumbdown:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_us/wal_mart_death

Yet another reason I avoid the stores on this day.  Damn shame.

Methinks we need a national timeout on this consumer buying season.

Pardon my cynicism, but I think it should read "keeping lawsuits and insurance premiums down is our top priority".

It is amazing the anemic bulls**t that comes out of the mouths of spokespeople in the wake of tragedy.

Walmart can't take the blame for this, as any other retailer cannot.

There are just people spread around, as much as I would like to believe that most everyone has a conscience, who are nothing more than animals on a feeding frenzy their entire damn lives.

Emergency workers are working, against any hope, to save the man's life, and people are rushing past to try to get bargains.

I have gone into a rushing crowd of kids coming out of a junior high at day's end, carrying a display to setup (much to my co-worker's horror), having dealt with crowd control before and knowing that people will move aside when faced with the potential of being knocked down themselves.

But, goddammit, breaking down doors? Trampling people lying on the floor? Those aren't people; and I cannot accurately describe what they are.

'Tis the season

Wal-Mart worker dies after shoppers knock him down 
NEW YORK – A Wal-Mart worker was killed Friday after an "out of control" throng of shoppers eager for post-Thanksgiving bargains broke down the doors at a suburban store and knocked him to the ground, police said...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_us/wal_mart_death (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_re_us/wal_mart_death)

My sentiments exactly. What the hell were these people thinking?   There isn't a damn sale in the world that is worth one life. Aside this tragedy, other people were rushed to the hospital including a 28 year old pregnant female.  It seems every year things get more insane with these shoppers.  I recall last year (for the life of me I can't recall if it was Black Friday) when Playstation 3 went on sale.  I can't recall all the specifics but some asinine manager at Walmart came up with a cutesy idea to have a fun race for tickets to buy the system.  One guy ran into a pole and received a concussion among other injuries. 

@ssholes!
For crissakes people it's just WAL-MART, theres only millions of them in the USA and their crap ain't pricey. Way to murder, you @ssholes!

Just a heads up, this topic was merged with a similar thread I started in the "weird news stories" board.  Either way, the story is messed up.  Sadly it will probably be swept under the carpet by Walmart and the media. 

It's the petty selfishness that amazes me. You can almost explain the stampede. A crowd gets moving, with everybody pushing from behind, and it's a hard thing to stop. It's happened before. The 1979 Who concert tragedy in Cincinnati comes to mind.

But to carry on shopping? That would have been the last thing on my mind at that point. And to start b***hing because the store was closing - due to an on-the-job fatality you were involved in - is just insane. Waiting in line since yesterday vs. being trampled to death......gee, who do you think deserves some sympathy? Morons. Petty, selfish, obnoxious morons.

Then again, I've always maintained that people willing to wait in line longer than a couple of hours for anything are morons.

This is why I never go out on Black Friday if I can help it. And not to pigeonhole every resident of Long Island but.... "What the f*ck is wrong with you people?!"  :question:

Also, I love how they list the "big deals" that Wal-Mart had in this news story. Nothing like a little death to drag in some more customers eh?

Wal-Mart: "Save Money. Die Better."

Two people shot dead at Toys R Us:  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/28/national/main4637468.shtml


They didn't want to grow up...

Being as I work at Wal-Mart and was scheduled to work at 4:30 AM, I had no choice but to be there.  Damn this department manager position! 

OMFG!  I wonder if this is over shopping wars or is there something much more deep involved between these two guys.  Either way, another 'wonderful" Xmas shopping story. 

Trampled to death by rampaging Wal-Mart shoppers... That's one hell of an epitaph.

Sadly, most of the news stories this Holiday have been violent and sickening.  Let's take a cue and remember to be patient and civil with one another. 

video update...note the damage to the door...
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=4226712&cl=10885567&src=news

What I keep thinking about is the guy who was killed.
The day before, he was probably happy and doing well.  Maybe he spent time with family and had a Thanksgiving dinner.  Maybe he played World of Warcraft.  Maybe he smoked a joint and got friendly with his girlfriend. (if he had one)  Who knows?
Little did he know that he was going to die the next morning.

I can imagine the 2000+ crowd streaming in, bleeting like sheep.  "Baaah!  Baaah!" 
Just following the herd...........
 
Seriously, who the hell waits in line in the freezing cold all night at WAL-MART of all places?
Don't they know that the items they want will eventually be in stock again?
And even if they aren't, can't they think of something else?  Perhaps something even better to buy their loved one for Christmas at a different store?

No, they can't.

I'd be willing to bet that the people who instigated this "push" for the ultimate bargain aren't very smart.  I understand that not everyone there meant to kill this man, but just by being there in the first place, they demonstrated their gullibility and blind stupidity.

I think a potential solution to avoid such a tragedy for future Black Fridays would be, for any Walmarts that are not open 24 hours (or closed Thanksgiving Day), is for the company to require the store manager to be the one who unlocks the doors for the customers. If that were the case, you could damn well bet there would be every safeguard in place. It would be a good policy for retailers in general to practice rather than a manager having a redshirt do it for their yellow ass.

They didn't help matters putting up a sign that says "Blitz Line Starts Here". The police should have secured the place and not let anyone out until they investigate and look over the surveillance tapes to find out which individuals were responsible.

This is also why I do all my shopping online.

But. . I did go to Anchorage on Friday, the traffic was about on par with a summer weekend, not much more.

If I was the manager of a place like wal-mart, I would consider moving all the big sales to the NEXT friday. That way you get all the people the couldn't find what they needed on BF, and the ones that didn't feel like dealing with the huge crowds.

The problem with that is Black Friday is the day after a major holiday; a day when people can get away with shopping at Walmart as an excuse for coming in late to work.  The next Friday, is not that traditional shopper's day and would take a degree of social engineering to turn it into one.

The retailers aren't going to give up their big day, and frankly should not. Aside from the problem being with the store where it happened, and not the day itself, the executives in corporate with major retailers, who are truly soulless people, will write it off along the lines of 'too bad he didn't have better reflexes, oh well'.

People have been trampled in retail rushes before. Injuries have come about due to that, but this is the first time a death has resulted.

It seems to speak in volume of something could have been done at the store in question to have prevented this, but was not. A manager should have unlocked those doors rather than their cowardly ass sending a low-level employee to do it.

No competent manager, having known the size of that line, should have sent anybody to unlock the doors without first implementing crowd control. This was not the Chicago riots; 2000 people are not that difficult to control, if you implement control procedures, and they did not.

The manager of that store should be fired, without the option to resign.

At the very least they should have gotten the names and addresses of everyone in the store, and taken a picture of each person to help them identify them by what they were wearing in the surveillance tapes.  A person's death was caused by other people;  even if it was "accidental", it still needs to be investigated thoroughly.

I hope they catch the people who did this there was nothing in there ad worth even standing in line for i hope who ever did this has a really bad Christmas's  i cant even imagine what his family is going through

It's crazy insane stuff like this that ruins the holidays for a lot of people.