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Title: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: KYGOTC on February 15, 2009, 12:30:11 AM
MAN that was a lousy movie. I mean, wow. WOW. That was THE most UNESSESARY movie that has EVER assulted my retnas. It brought NOTHING new to the franchise. It was SOOOO predictable. I just....just why, man? why? and why Michael Bay of all people to direct? Scince when does he do horror movies? NEVER , thats when! What a waste of time. time and money. Time I could have spent helping old disabled people poop and money I could have spent on Paris Hilton's cd.


Really. What a hunk of slime.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 15, 2009, 12:36:37 AM
really? i thought it was just fine. it wasn't as fun as, say, jason lives, but it wasn't the worst remake i've ever seen.

then again, i went in expecting nothing.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 15, 2009, 12:38:59 AM
and why Michael Bay of all people to direct?

uhh... he didn't. :thumbdown:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: KYGOTC on February 15, 2009, 12:46:55 AM
and why Michael Bay of all people to direct?

uhh... he didn't. :thumbdown:

oh. PRODUCED. whatever. it still blew.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Mr. DS on February 15, 2009, 07:13:21 AM
I give you gentlemen credit for paying to see it in the theater.  I probably won't even watch it on video. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 15, 2009, 07:36:31 AM
I warned you damn kids! I warned you it was gonna suck!

(http://www.headinjurytheater.com/friday%2013th%201%20ralph%20is%20awesome.jpg)



Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 15, 2009, 09:42:57 AM
Was anyone wondering why weed was magically growing at the camp? Was Jason selling it on the side? Using decapitated heads as bongs? What?

People didn't know they were gonna add in elements of parts 1-4, while the bulk of the plot was it's own plot written specifically for the movie.  Jason doesn't run, so why did he look like he should be on the track team?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 15, 2009, 09:48:43 AM
Was anyone wondering why weed was magically growing at the camp? Was Jason selling it on the side? Using decapitated heads as bongs? What?

Another disease that runs rampant in modern film. Oh, how endless "weed" references in every film these days pains me...  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Doggett on February 15, 2009, 11:46:26 AM
When will people learn we don't want drugs and sex in movies...

It takes time away from the...

....casual violance!!!!!!

And thats what we paid to see.! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: InformationGeek on February 15, 2009, 12:16:04 PM
I'm not into slasher flicks and I never seen the original Friday the 13th, but I already knew this remake was going to be either average or really bad.  Oh well, time to wait for the remake of The Last House on the Left now...


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Mr. DS on February 15, 2009, 12:20:08 PM
When will people learn we don't want drugs and sex in movies...

It takes time away from the...

....casual violance!!!!!!

And thats what we paid to see.! :teddyr:
I don't mind the sex but drugs are really on overkill lately.  That and fart jokes...its gotten to the point where farts aren't funny anymore and thats saddens me.   :bluesad: 

Anyhow...staying on topic why can't they just leave this franchise alone.  Give the old yeller treatment already.  I never was a big fan of Jason anyhow.  His mother made a much better villain. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Doggett on February 15, 2009, 12:34:03 PM
When will people learn we don't want drugs and sex in movies...

It takes time away from the...

....casual violance!!!!!!

And thats what we paid to see.! :teddyr:
I don't mind the sex but drugs are really on overkill lately.  That and fart jokes...its gotten to the point where farts aren't funny anymore and thats saddens me.   :bluesad: 


Anyhow...staying on topic why can't they just leave this franchise alone.  Give the old yeller treatment already.  I never was a big fan of Jason anyhow.  His mother made a much better villain. 


Why aren't there ever any likable people in slasher films ?
If we don't like 'em, then we won't be in fear of their saftey. If you're audience is rooting for the killer, then you've failed to make him scary !

It's like filmmakers have forgotton to scare. :bluesad:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: KYGOTC on February 15, 2009, 12:36:18 PM
When will people learn we don't want drugs and sex in movies...

It takes time away from the...

....casual violance!!!!!!

And thats what we paid to see.! :teddyr:
I don't mind the sex but drugs are really on overkill lately.  That and fart jokes...its gotten to the point where farts aren't funny anymore and thats saddens me.   :bluesad: 


Anyhow...staying on topic why can't they just leave this franchise alone.  Give the old yeller treatment already.  I never was a big fan of Jason anyhow.  His mother made a much better villain. 


Why aren't there ever any likable people in slasher films ?
If we don't like 'em, then we won't be in fear of their saftey. If you're audience is rooting for the killer, then you've failed to make him scary !

It's like filmmakers have forgotton to scare. :bluesad:

I always dig the funny nerdy guys, (which this movie had two of) and they always bite it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Ash on February 15, 2009, 01:22:54 PM

If this new movie is so bad, why is it here in the Good Movies section??

 :question:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: KYGOTC on February 15, 2009, 01:38:03 PM

If this new movie is so bad, why is it here in the Good Movies section??

 :question:

Because Its not a B-movie. its just a bad A-movie. get it?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Ash on February 15, 2009, 01:40:58 PM

So is it bad or good?
If it's good, it goes here in this section.
If it's bad, it goes in the bad movies section.  (regardless of budget)


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 15, 2009, 01:42:14 PM

If this new movie is so bad, why is it here in the Good Movies section??

 :question:

Because Its not a B-movie. its just a bad A-movie. get it?

It's what the Megan Fox's and Tom Welling's of this world would consider a great, "funky" movie that "I'm really proud of"  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Javakoala on February 15, 2009, 02:09:49 PM
I've always wanted to see a slasher movie in which the dumpy, funny girl with glasses is the one to survive.  And it would happen because she most likely has brains. She would chop the killer into pieces out of fear, anger and frustration instead of the cliched "one stab and then drop the weapon" scene.

If they want to make it scary, they should have Jason demolish the campers' parents' credit so that the annoying pretty kids don't have any easy money any more. Talk about frightening the upper middle class snobs...they'd demand the movie be banned.

And, yes, I'm stereotyping, and I approve of this message.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ds21 on February 15, 2009, 04:03:01 PM
When will people learn we don't want drugs and sex in movies...

It takes time away from the...

....casual violance!!!!!!

And thats what we paid to see.! :teddyr:

agreed!!!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 15, 2009, 04:04:53 PM
I was just reading some guy's review of this on Imdb and it was very funny. He really hated it too.

Here's a little snippet from his rant and one HUGE reason why the world and his wife should stay away from this crap:

Quote
This is an example of the humor in this movie: the black guy, Lawrence, is complaining about not having a cell phone signal at the cabin because he has business to do this weekend, as he is trying to put together a record label. A girl says "Rap?" and he says "Now why you gotta think just because I'm black it's gotta be rap? You think a black guy can't appreciate Green Day?" and she says "Sorry. What kind of music then?" and he says "Rap." Ahhahahahahaha!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Doggett on February 15, 2009, 07:08:52 PM
I was just reading some guy's review of this on Imdb and it was very funny. He really hated it too.

Here's a little snippet from his rant and one HUGE reason why the world and his wife should stay away from this crap:

Quote
This is an example of the humor in this movie: the black guy, Lawrence, is complaining about not having a cell phone signal at the cabin because he has business to do this weekend, as he is trying to put together a record label. A girl says "Rap?" and he says "Now why you gotta think just because I'm black it's gotta be rap? You think a black guy can't appreciate Green Day?" and she says "Sorry. What kind of music then?" and he says "Rap." Ahhahahahahaha!


With gags as funny as that the writers should work on the next Adam Sandler film.  :wink:
Or , better yet, Steve Martin film.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 15, 2009, 09:03:40 PM
Was anyone wondering why weed was magically growing at the camp? Was Jason selling it on the side? Using decapitated heads as bongs? What?

Another disease that runs rampant in modern film. Oh, how endless "weed" references in every film these days pains me...  :bluesad:
It was also rampant in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake, by the same writers/producers.  I'm not 'anti-weed' or anything, but it just felt like it was forced in to appear to 'be cool' or something.  Like, "Hey man, we'll have the kids looking for weed, so the college kids watching it will be all like, 'Hey, I smoke pot too, cool'".  Lame.  Just really unnecessary. 

Apparently the ending of the flick was scrapped and was edited out, in favor of the ending they are showing in theaters.  I love the Friday franchise, but I'm not sure if a sequel to this will be appreciated. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Jason Does Run on February 15, 2009, 09:10:42 PM
Was anyone wondering why weed was magically growing at the camp? Was Jason selling it on the side? Using decapitated heads as bongs? What?

People didn't know they were gonna add in elements of parts 1-4, while the bulk of the plot was it's own plot written specifically for the movie.  Jason doesn't run, so why did he look like he should be on the track team?

You should rewatch part 2; Jason runs like a m#*tha F#*&a


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 15, 2009, 09:22:35 PM
Was anyone wondering why weed was magically growing at the camp? Was Jason selling it on the side? Using decapitated heads as bongs? What?

People didn't know they were gonna add in elements of parts 1-4, while the bulk of the plot was it's own plot written specifically for the movie.  Jason doesn't run, so why did he look like he should be on the track team?

You should rewatch part 2; Jason runs like a m#*tha F#*&a
Yeah he does.  Completely forgot about that when I posted it.  A friend of mine was like, "He ran like a b***h in part 2 and 3."  I was like "s**t, you're right." 

I had gotten so used to him being "Uber zombie" in the latter years that I forgot he moved pretty quickly for a while.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Torgo on February 15, 2009, 10:03:57 PM
I picked up a couple of weeks ago that His Name Was Jason 2 disc DVD set. Included with it was a 10 dollar movie coupon to see the new Friday the 13th.  So I got to see it for free essentially Saturday night.   I actually liked it. It's actually much more of an alternate timeline type sequel to the original 1980 classic.  I felt that they successfully expanded on the Jason mythos without being disrespectful or ignorant of the original 4 films (the remake actually pulls plot elements from all 4 as well).  The film gets the franchise back to where it needed to be.  The only part where I felt the filmmakes faltered was in the jump type ending which felt a bit cheap and pointless.  But I would still give it 3 stars out of 4.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 16, 2009, 01:08:16 AM
again, i think that it's actually a pretty decent film.

as far as remakes are concerned, it's not as good as john carpenter's "the thing", or rob zombie's "halloween", but it's a damned sight better than the "dawn of the dead" and "psycho" remakes.

i think it really says a lot about someone if they go to see a remake, or even a sequel of a friday the 13th film, after how bad "jason goes to hell" was, and complains about how bad it was.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 16, 2009, 01:09:17 AM
I picked up a couple of weeks ago that His Name Was Jason 2 disc DVD set. Included with it was a 10 dollar movie coupon...

strange, mine coupon was for $5.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Torgo on February 16, 2009, 02:39:13 AM
I think it depended on where you bought His Name Was Jason as to how much the movie voucher was for. A friend and I got our copies at Wal-Mart and the voucher was good for 10 bucks. Two other friends got their copies at Best Buy and their coupons were only good for 5 dollars towards a F13th ticket. Go figure...................


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Torgo on February 16, 2009, 02:46:31 AM
Oh yeah, BTW the weed crop belonged to the guy who was feeling up the mannequin prior to getting his throat slashed and Jason then subsequently finding the hockey mask on the floor.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 16, 2009, 04:19:15 AM
Oh yeah, BTW the weed crop belonged to the guy who was feeling up the mannequin prior to getting his throat slashed and Jason then subsequently finding the hockey mask on the floor.

i thought that dude said he "found" the weed.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 16, 2009, 08:07:45 AM
again, i think that it's actually a pretty decent film.

as far as remakes are concerned, it's not as good as john carpenter's "the thing", or rob zombie's "halloween", but it's a damned sight better than the "dawn of the dead" and "psycho" remakes.

i think it really says a lot about someone if they go to see a remake, or even a sequel of a friday the 13th film, after how bad "jason goes to hell" was, and complains about how bad it was.

We are on opposite sides of the aisle on that one; I thought Jason Goes to Hell was one of the better ones. Of course, if someone is wanting Jason in the movie, then that's probably going to disappoint. :teddyr:

I missed going to see the movie on Friday the 13th; it's just not the same if you don't see one on that day.

I had seen parts 3 and 6 in the theatre. Was disappointed with both of them, so disappointment is nothing new with a Friday the 13th film, and generally an expectation. Interesting franchise, or fandom, where, despite expecting to be disappointed with one of the films, there's still the urge to watch it.

I missed going the see this on Friday the 13th, which really would have been the only reason I would have wanted to see it. Seems like a throwback to the 80s; go to see a Friday the 13th movie on Friday the 13th and leave the theatre wondering why in the hell you went.

I guess Jason has power over Michael Bay. I have no interest in any film in which he is in any way associated. After what he did to Texas Chainsaw Massacre, I have yet to forgive the bastard.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 16, 2009, 09:49:54 AM
On the whole, I didn't hate it.  I can't hate any Jason movie. 

again, i think that it's actually a pretty decent film.

as far as remakes are concerned, it's not as good as john carpenter's "the thing", or rob zombie's "halloween", but it's a damned sight better than the "dawn of the dead" and "psycho" remakes.

i think it really says a lot about someone if they go to see a remake, or even a sequel of a friday the 13th film, after how bad "jason goes to hell" was, and complains about how bad it was.

We are on opposite sides of the aisle on that one; I thought Jason Goes to Hell was one of the better ones. Of course, if someone is wanting Jason in the movie, then that's probably going to disappoint. :teddyr:


I had seen parts 3 and 6 in the theatre. Was disappointed with both of them, so disappointment is nothing new with a Friday the 13th film, and generally an expectation. Interesting franchise, or fandom, where, despite expecting to be disappointed with one of the films, there's still the urge to watch it.


 
I don't know.  I liked parts 3 & 6 for the most part.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: clockworkcanary on February 16, 2009, 01:21:32 PM
Hello all - long time.  Anyway, I had to post on this since I reviewed all of the F13s so far.  Went on opening weekend and I thought it was ok - didn't have high expectations. Dragged my g/f along and she said I'd be going alone next time if I decided to see it again :) haha

Anyway, great references to parts 1, 2, 3, and 4 - the kills were brutal and Derek Mears was a beast as Jason.  Sorry, I'm of the old school of thought on Jason - liked the human one way better. Zombie Jason is so far removed from reality that you just can't relate (although I do like that version but just not as much). Hick retard in the woods with a knife is actually possible.

Anyway, loved the visual references throughout. Loved the arrow-to-the-head, the sleeping bag kill, and the slow screwdriver.

I was reading some funny ass comments on  IMDB.  People are actually complaining about the dialog, the stupid teenagers, the plot holes and such and I'm thinking "WTF did you expect?" - I mean, this isn't Kubrick -it's low culture and I love every bit of its crappiness.  Those that thought the first ones were masterpieces really need to rewatch them.  I think some had their expectations way too high. 

I myself was counting on (and would have been disappointed without) the cheezy dialog, the douchebag characters, and the inept cops -all trademarks of a F13 flick.

Anyway, I'll be writing up a review for this one too, but it won't be anytime soon.

I say just enjoy it for what it is, a big dumb slasher flick that brings Jason back into the spotlight. After Jason X, things can only go up, ya know?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 16, 2009, 03:49:25 PM
Hello all - long time.


Welcome back Clock.

I was thinking of starting a thread, telling you to get your F13 franchise loving ass back here.

I'm running out of people on here with good repartee to my...ahem...good natured charm. (http://5g8.net/smileys/lol-065.gif) (http://5g8.net)

It's lonely at the top. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: clockworkcanary on February 16, 2009, 06:39:47 PM
Hey Menard - what is up? Thanks for the hello. I've been absent for awhile because I've been working my ass off :), which is great considering a year ago I was having a lot of trouble finding employment. Check this -they hired 4 of us for this contract/project and they've gradually cut everyone else -I'm the only one left. Suffice to say, I confronted the boss about it, worried that I'd be next. I was told that due to my hard work and due to me volunteering to do extra work, they plan to hire me in full time in June.  That's great and all but a lot can happen between now and June, but still; it's good news!

Anyway, yeah I had to make time to come and post for the Friday the 13th. I'm running short on time right now, so I'll have to come back later and talk about it some more. 

Hope everyone is doing well!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Jim H on February 16, 2009, 06:44:08 PM
I saw this at a midnight screening, with a pretty good crowd.  Amazingly, only one douchebag teen in the entire theatre insisted on texting during the movie.  That's a low for a movie with that big of an audience.

I enjoyed it.  I also have to say that the F13th series is one basically immune to pandering.  You have to remember what the movies were in the first place - cheap, quickly produced fodder for kids.  They never really had much deep artistic value, so I don't think the series CAN be cheapened any more than it has been. 

Other than a crap ending (par for the course in a F13th film), I thought it was solid.  The best of the more recent horror remakes actually. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Torgo on February 16, 2009, 08:29:49 PM
After Jason X, things can only go up, ya know?


The only thing that Jason X has going for it is that it contains one of the greatest Jason kills in F13th history:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsvkrn-ozwc


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 16, 2009, 10:22:18 PM
Guess I'm one of the few people that likes Jason X, as well as Jason Takes Manhattan. 

I have to go back and rewatch the franchise, but a quick question that I'm pondering: Jason did die at some point in part 1, as a child, right?  Then he shows up in the sequel as a deformed adult.  So was he alive the whole time, or did he just age and decompose under the lake until his mother bit the dust, then feel the urge to comeback and kill?

I remember at one point, I think in Jason X, the scientists said something about studying his dna and skin tissue, as they were looking for the thing that made him keep regenerating body parts. 

I dunno.  I'm bored.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 16, 2009, 11:04:18 PM
Guess I'm one of the few people that likes Jason X, as well as Jason Takes Manhattan. 

I have to go back and rewatch the franchise, but a quick question that I'm pondering: Jason did die at some point in part 1, as a child, right?  Then he shows up in the sequel as a deformed adult.  So was he alive the whole time, or did he just age and decompose under the lake until his mother bit the dust, then feel the urge to comeback and kill?

I remember at one point, I think in Jason X, the scientists said something about studying his dna and skin tissue, as they were looking for the thing that made him keep regenerating body parts. 

I dunno.  I'm bored.

Clock could answer the question better than I can, but I'll give it a whirl.

In the first movie, Jason was suppose to have died as a child.


The rationale given in the second movie which introduced Jason as the killer played it off that he survived the drowning, but was irreparably damaged by it, and being deformed at birth apparently didn't help any way, and effectively became a retarded hermit living in the woods and scavenging for a living. He may have seen the killing of his mother which may have set him off.

Of course, this rationale was provided as a supposition by Amy Steel's character and never directly stated that it was exactly what happened.

Part 3 confused the hell out of the story even more with the flashback suggesting Jason to be even older than it was suggested in part 2. Remember, Part 3 picks up right on the eve of Part 2; though Jason seems to have grown considerably, changed his style of dress, and apparently gave his head a shave just before he went out (must have been preparing for a date), even though the flashback precedes Part 2, and Jason is bald, and described as such, in the flashback.


Jason was never undead until part 6 when a rod was stuck in his body out of a fit of anger, that conveniently happened to be during a storm in which the rod was struck by lightning and he was conveniently brought back in a Frankensteinish manner; except that, of course, he was undead. Lesson learned: it is never a good idea to read a copy of The Spear of Destiny in the presence of Ron Pallilo. (try not to dwell too much on the symbolism of the book preceding Jason's resurrection)

Part 8 contradicted the deformed child angle as the young Jason was represented as a normal child before the drowning incident.


Jason was undead until apparently Jason Goes to Hell and Jason X. In Jason Goes to Hell...well I'm not too certain what he is or was, but it seems like they glossed over the zombie part and suggested some kind of evil spirit that could inhabit other living beings. Anyway, at the end, he was reborn, literally, before being destroyed again, so at least there was the suggestion that he was, once again, alive.

In Jason X, they make the reference to him having incredible regenerative powers and the inability to kill him because he would just regenerate back; which suggests, once again, that he was alive. Certainly he was a living construct after being rebuilt by nanobots in Jason X.

It seems as though New Line wanted to take him away from the decomposing zombie Jason and brought up the regenerative powers. I guess that was to get away from the eventual question of after all those years, why doesn't he just rot.


If that does not clear up any confusion, you are far from alone.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 17, 2009, 12:34:44 AM
I was reading some funny ass comments on  IMDB.  People are actually complaining about the dialog, the stupid teenagers, the plot holes and such and I'm thinking "WTF did you expect?" - I mean, this isn't Kubrick -it's low culture and I love every bit of its crappiness.  Those that thought the first ones were masterpieces really need to rewatch them.  I think some had their expectations way too high.

that's my point exactly.

i'd also like to ad that i, personally, think that jason x isn't altogether bad, that goes to hell is the worst in the series, and that i really actually enjoy parts 4, 5, and 6 most of all. so, i guess what i'm saying is that my opinion is only as valid as the next fan's.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Jim H on February 17, 2009, 04:20:23 AM
Continuity is not one of the strong points of the series, that's for sure.

Basically, the way I look at it..

Jason was a deformed, possibly physically and/or mentally retarded child, who nearly drowned, but actually ended up surviving in the woods somehow.  Poorly explained.

But, he ran off and grew up in the woods by himself somehow.  Parts 2-4 he is a living, but extremely tough and extremely strong, otherwise normal person.

Part 6 resurrected him as a zombie.  It's unclear whether he can regenerate in parts 6-8, but at the very least he doesn't rot - being stuck underwater for months will ruin ANY normal corpse.  I just like to think evil/power gradually built up in him, and eventually he was more "organic", leading to the regenerating Jason in Jason X and Freddy VS Jason. 

As for Jason Goes To Hell, it basically threw out all semblance of continuity with the series, so I treat it as separate from the main franchise.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 17, 2009, 11:03:10 AM
I knew in 6, Tommy Jarvis and the spike brought him back, thereby making him some sort of zombie.

I just wasn't clear on parts 2-4, as it was a poorly explained series of events of "He died, oh wait, no he didn't." 

The Halloween franchise confused the hell out of me too.  Something about a weird cult and curse that nobody knows a damn thing about. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ds21 on February 17, 2009, 12:12:06 PM
Like I've said, I consider Friday the 13th to be the silly alternitive to Halloween's serious darkness.  Although this may be entirely unfounded, since I've only read about Friday, not actually seen any of them.

That Jason X clip was twisted, but none-the-less cool.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 17, 2009, 08:53:33 PM
Like I've said, I consider Friday the 13th to be the silly alternitive to Halloween's serious darkness.  Although this may be entirely unfounded, since I've only read about Friday, not actually seen any of them.

That Jason X clip was twisted, but none-the-less cool.
The Friday movies are fun.  Silly, but fun nonetheless.  Lots of fun kills throughout the series.  Part 3 was a 3-D flick, which I'm sure was good on the big screen.  But it's laughable on dvd. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Nukie 2 on February 17, 2009, 10:45:02 PM
But what says that an undead person can't be regenerative?

Maybe the lightening bolt that hit him in part 6 boosted his metabolism and healing capabilities?

I agree with you all, Goes To Hell does throw it all off track. The evil spirit scenerio sucks-- unless there was an evil spirit in that lightening bolt. But if that is to written in a movie, it sounds pretty stupid.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ds21 on February 17, 2009, 10:49:36 PM
I'm pretty sure it's unexplainible  :question:.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 17, 2009, 11:24:55 PM
I agree with you all, Goes To Hell does throw it all off track. The evil spirit scenerio sucks-- unless there was an evil spirit in that lightening bolt. But if that is to written in a movie, it sounds pretty stupid.

this was just new line cinema picking the franchise up, and wanting to make it more like their baby, the nightmare on elm street series, if you ask me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Nukie 2 on February 17, 2009, 11:34:45 PM
this was just new line cinema picking the franchise up, and wanting to make it more like their baby, the nightmare on elm street series, if you ask me.

Yeah they did pick it up didn't they. That explains it.
But then theres there's sort of a back-peddle with Jason X. X was pretty schlocky, I liked it after the first viewing though. Though I still wish they kept up with the "logic". However in Freddy Vs. Jason, to me it made sense that he was deranged Mama's boy out for vengence. But that's another back peddle from him being pure evil as in Goes to Hell.
New Line has tinkered with it too much.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 18, 2009, 01:04:37 AM
Part 3 was a 3-D flick, which I'm sure was good on the big screen.

No.

It had two good parts: the opening credits, and the ending credits. What came between those sucked.

The poster you could buy after the movie that would work with the glasses you got with the movie was pretty cool though. Wish I still had mine.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2009, 09:38:36 AM
Part 3 was a 3-D flick, which I'm sure was good on the big screen.

No.

It had two good parts: the opening credits, and the ending credits. What came between those sucked.

The poster you could buy after the movie that would work with the glasses you got with the movie was pretty cool though. Wish I still had mine.
Hmm.  I figured on the big screen the 3-D element would have made it better.  I've never seen it in 3D.  Just on tv/dvd, where 3d has no influence over.  So I find it pretty laughable as a movie.  I liked part 4 though.  You can't get any better than part 4.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 18, 2009, 11:53:22 AM
Hmm.  I figured on the big screen the 3-D element would have made it better.  I've never seen it in 3D.  Just on tv/dvd, where 3d has no influence over.  So I find it pretty laughable as a movie.

The problem was that it was a 3D movie, but without much to show for that. Not much was in the face of the audience, and what was didn't work all that well. They had a few elements that worked okay, but most of what little they used to take advantage of the 3D was gimmicky and just didn't flow well with the movie (not like there's really a lot of flow to an F13 movie, but interrupting one with a 'let's try this cheap effect' just makes it that much worse).

Perhaps I was jaded toward 3D movies as I had seen Comin' at Ya and that was a hell of a lot of fun. The audience was ducking, screaming, and having fun. Yes, there were gimmicks, but most of them worked well with the dime-novel storyline.

I guess I expected the 3D to work with F13 3D and instead found that the gimmicks got in the way.

Part 3 is important in the series; oddly enough, perhaps the most important from a development standpoint. It introduces the mask (actually taken from Bleeder from Alone in the Dark), Jason's 'handyman' type of outfit, (Jason's new style of dress resembles Bleeder as well), and Jason's stalker without a home existence.

Part 2 introduced Jason, and was probably the best of the series (it would get my vote), but Part 3 creates Jason and what would follow.

It is too bad that they did not shoot alternative scenes for a non-3D version that would hold up better.

I liked part 4 though.  You can't get any better than part 4.

 :lookingup:

Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 18, 2009, 05:46:22 PM
this was just new line cinema picking the franchise up, and wanting to make it more like their baby, the nightmare on elm street series, if you ask me.

Yeah they did pick it up didn't they. That explains it.
But then theres there's sort of a back-peddle with Jason X.

well, that's because jason x was produced by a different group, crystal lake entertainment. they had an agreement to where they could take the characters and imagery associated with the franchise, make a movie with their own money, on their own time, and then when they were done, come back to new line with it, and cash in.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: WilliamWeird1313 on February 18, 2009, 06:33:03 PM
Oh, thank freakin' GAWD some folks are agreein' with me that this movie sucked! Virtually every blog and message board review I've read of this sucker has had nothin' but good things to say. I thought for a second there that everyone in the world had turned into an idiot. What a piece of crap this flick was. Even for a Friday The 13th. Leave it to that T.C.M.-killer himself, Marcus Nispel, to churn out this unbelievable hunk of garbage. Seriously, I'm not too hard to please. I liked Jason X for christsakes (admittedly in a "so bad it's good" kind of way). But this movie was just so "so bad it's really, really bad" and that's all. Not only was it laborious, but it also thought it was more brutal, dark, and smart than it actually was. Worst of all though, it was just generic as all hell. Really, there was nothing about it that MADE it a Friday The 13th movie. Nothing special. Nothing unique. Neither hide nor hair of flair or flourish. This could have been any uninspired horror movie sitting on the Blockbuster "straight to D.V.D." rack. Take away Jason's hockey mask and you could've changed the title to Wrong Turn 3 and no one would have ever known. For crap's sake, you could've given him a Nixon mask and called this flick "I Am Not A Crook" and it'd would've scarcely made even a marginal difference.
Thank god I got in free to see this.
Of course, I will say that the movie pretty much met all my expectation. But that's only because my expectations were so damn low.
Whoop-dee-doo.
Shoot me.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 18, 2009, 10:00:33 PM




Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.
Well, F13 part 1 was the best of the series.

As far as the sequels go, my personal favorites are actually 4, 6, 8 and X.  I didn't care as much for 5, 7, or 9, although I will watch the dvd's on occasion.  And it's not even that I don't like them either.  I personally just don't like them as much as the others.  Actually, when selecting which one I will watch at any given time, the only one I'll actually avoid is Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday.  That was s**t on a stick if I ever saw it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Torgo on February 18, 2009, 10:22:55 PM
I was disappointed that they didn't have a Crazy Ralph type character in the remake though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3CaYYEkGXI


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 19, 2009, 09:35:55 AM
I was disappointed that they didn't have a Crazy Ralph type character in the remake though.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3CaYYEkGXI[/url]

Supposedly there were some scenes filmed with one.  But for whatever reason, they were edited out.  Don't know if it's true.  If it is true, maybe they'll be on dvd.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on February 19, 2009, 09:51:33 PM
Part 2 introduced Jason, and was probably the best of the series (it would get my vote), but Part 3 creates Jason and what would follow.

Uh-oh, 'Nard and I agree on Part 2 being the best of the F13 movies?! Didn't Nostradamus predict this as one of the signs of armageddon? :tongueout:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Torgo on February 20, 2009, 04:29:47 AM
My personal favorite of the series is probably The Final Chapter with Jason Lives coming in a close second.  Jason is just plain vicious in part 4.  Plus we also got exposed to Crispin Glover's dance abilities.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: RCMerchant on February 20, 2009, 06:42:55 AM




Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.
Well, F13 part 1 was the best of the series.

As far as the sequels go, my personal favorites are actually 4, 6, 8 and X.  I didn't care as much for 5, 7, or 9, although I will watch the dvd's on occasion.  And it's not even that I don't like them either.  I personally just don't like them as much as the others.  Actually, when selecting which one I will watch at any given time, the only one I'll actually avoid is Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday.  That was s**t on a stick if I ever saw it.

I must be the only person on Earth who enjoyed JASON GOES TO HELL.  :bluesad:
Yeah...I know it was a rip-off of the HIDDEN.....


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: WilliamWeird1313 on February 20, 2009, 08:11:36 AM




Try parts 1, 2, 6, 7 (that's kind of pushing it), Jason Goes to Hell, and X.
Well, F13 part 1 was the best of the series.

As far as the sequels go, my personal favorites are actually 4, 6, 8 and X.  I didn't care as much for 5, 7, or 9, although I will watch the dvd's on occasion.  And it's not even that I don't like them either.  I personally just don't like them as much as the others.  Actually, when selecting which one I will watch at any given time, the only one I'll actually avoid is Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday.  That was s**t on a stick if I ever saw it.

I must be the only person on Earth who enjoyed JASON GOES TO HELL.  :bluesad:
Yeah...I know it was a rip-off of the HIDDEN.....

I dug it! One of my personal favorites from the series.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 20, 2009, 09:48:34 AM


I must be the only person on Earth who enjoyed JASON GOES TO HELL.  :bluesad:
Yeah...I know it was a rip-off of the HIDDEN.....
I'll give you this much, it was much better than part 5.  But for some reason, I just avoid it.  But tastes are a little askew.  I mean, I do like Jason Takes Manhattan, and that seems like the bastard child of the series. :bluesad:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 20, 2009, 12:25:03 PM


I must be the only person on Earth who enjoyed JASON GOES TO HELL.  :bluesad:
Yeah...I know it was a rip-off of the HIDDEN.....
I'll give you this much, it was much better than part 5.  But for some reason, I just avoid it.  But tastes are a little askew.  I mean, I do like Jason Takes Manhattan, and that seems like the bastard child of the series. :bluesad:

Jason Takes Manhattan is my favourite, followed by Parts 2, 6 and 7.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 20, 2009, 12:51:22 PM


I must be the only person on Earth who enjoyed JASON GOES TO HELL.  :bluesad:
Yeah...I know it was a rip-off of the HIDDEN.....
I'll give you this much, it was much better than part 5.  But for some reason, I just avoid it.  But tastes are a little askew.  I mean, I do like Jason Takes Manhattan, and that seems like the bastard child of the series. :bluesad:

Jason Takes Manhattan is my favourite, followed by Parts 2, 6 and 7.

RC is not alone in liking Jason Goes to Hell as I liked that very much; it doesn't drag like so many of the others do.

Jason Does Manhattan, on the other hand, is only salvaged by the rooftop boxing scene; but it's pretty much the bottom of the barrel of the series. Though, as I think we have alluded to throughout this thread, which ones we like and don't like are more a matter of personal taste and not necessarily whether any one is better than the others.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 21, 2009, 09:28:05 PM



RC is not alone in liking Jason Goes to Hell as I liked that very much; it doesn't drag like so many of the others do.

Jason Does Manhattan, on the other hand, is only salvaged by the rooftop boxing scene; but it's pretty much the bottom of the barrel of the series. Though, as I think we have alluded to throughout this thread, which ones we like and don't like are more a matter of personal taste and not necessarily whether any one is better than the others.
That's a valid point.  Especially considering the fact that, well, all the Friday movies are equivalent to a steaming pile of crap in a bag.  Dont' get me wrong, I love the series.  But none of them are really 'good' in the traditional sense. 

It's all a matter of which of the series you prefer to watch.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Jack on February 22, 2009, 08:35:55 AM
Part 1 - didn't like it, too cheesy and silly.
Part 2 - Probably my favorite slasher of all time.  Great characters, "scary" atmosphere, awesome.
Part 3 - Another favorite.  Characters, atmosphere, some funny stuff too.
Part 4 - didn't care for it.  Characters were too clichéd, though the last girl was good.  And sexy.
Part 5 - Awesome fun.
Part 6 - kind of boring really.
Part 7 - was that the Carrie one?   It was fairly good.
Part 8 - Manhattan?  Just terrible.  Started out like a Lifetime movie of the week, featured some atrocious acting, only good part was the rooftop boxing scene.
Jason Goes to Hell - the only Friday movie I turned off halfway through.  Did the people who made this ever see a Friday film before?  I couldn't figure out who these people were and I certainly didn't care.
Jason X - Awesome!  One of my favorites.

As far as this new one, I might pick it up on DVD when used copies get down to a dollar or two.  I've read some moderately favorable reviews of it.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on February 22, 2009, 02:05:01 PM
I saw the remake yesterday, so here's my summation on the series as a whole.

The Original - Betsy Palmer makes a great psycho, great ending, the opening segment with the first girl getting killed after we spend 10 minutes following her story surprised me. I thought she'd be the hero. Great Savini gore effects and Kevin Bacon getting the archery tracheotomy. Not a great movie on its own, but a few shining moments and it does set the groundwork for a bad movie slasher legacy. 3/5

Part 2 - As stated before (and I see shared with several members here), my favorite of the bunch. I think the pacing is great, the gore is plentiful, Ginny is by far my favorite heroine of any movie (she breaks a chair on Jason, and goes at him with a chainsaw!), I actually liked much of the cast in some way and was somewhat invested in their deaths, there's that great moment of panic when Ginny and Paul are in the unlit room and she screams "Paul! There's someone in this f*cking room!", and though Jason is presented as a legitimate mongoloid menace he's also very human and fallible. He falls off of a chair, the handle of his pitchfork breaks on him, he wears that goofy sack over his head, he gets scared when Ginny tries to chainsaw him, he makes grunting sounds, and he RUNS! 5/5

Part 3 - The evolution of Jason continues as he dons his trademark hockey mask and dark blue overalls. The cheesy 3-D moments make for a great drinking game every time something is trust at the camera and the violence gets brutal. Couldn't stand the character of Shelly and his simple throat slashing didn't justify all the time we were forced to deal with him on screen, though I did feel bad when the Tommy Chong couple was killed off. The biker gang stuff felt tacked on just to prove that Jason was badass enough to kill typical '80s movie biker thugs. The movie also made Jason more depraved by giving him a rapist type flashback moment and scarring a lot of souls with that look on his face in his final scene. Unnerving. 4/5

Part 4 - What new stuff can you bring to the series? Kill Jason. Let Corey Feldman dress himself up like Kid Jason and stab the big ghoul in the head with his own machete. But before that, let Crispen Glover dance around like he's having an epileptic fit. Anyone else seen the "Back in Black" clip of this on YouTube where they describe how the dancing was originally intended? It's much more memorable the way it ended up. As for the movie itself? Didn't make a big impression on me despite the Tom Savini kills and Alice Cooper's "Man Behind the Mask" theme song. It's my fiancee's favorite, but I think that's just because she has a crush on Crispen Glover. 2.5/5

Part 5 - The series takes a swerve by using a copycat killer and making us think the whole time that it's actually Tommy's doing. I actually like it because despite being little more than a series of slasher movies, at least there's always some kind of twist to make each installment unique. The pacing felt good, the movie felt fun, watching the inbred hillbilly mother and son getting offed was enjoyable, and I always get a laugh out of the little joke where the sheriff is talking to himself like all movie cops do at some point or another, only to have Roy the ambulance driver say, "Were you talking to me, Sheriff?". It's a subtle, strange little moment that always makes me laugh. I like Roy's death, I like the swerve they took with the ending, and I just liked it. After Return of the Living Dead I always like to see Miguel Nunez, so his brief stint as Demon was a personal highlight... though I'll never understand that outhouse duet he does with his girlfriend...4/5

Part 6 - Start of Super Zombie Jason (all a body needs is high doses of electricity apparently to bring it back to life...) always p**sed me off for a few reasons: in Part 5 they said Jason had been cremated yet here he's a rotting corpse, Jason wears work gloves and a "serial killer utility belt" for some reason, a girl's face is molded into the side of an RV like it was built out the T1000, and Tommy somehow randomly deduces that trapping Jason in the waters of Crystal Lake will kill him... WHAT?! But, I did enjoy the brutality of some of Jason's kills using his new super zombie strength, I'm always a fan of a good outboard motor attack, as stated before I'm a huge proponent of Return of the Living Dead so seeing Thom Matthews as Tommy was entertaining, and you can't not like a movie where Ron Pallilo gets his sweat hog ass killed! 3.5/5

Part 7 - Previously my favorite simply because it had SZ Jason fighting pseudo-Carrie, but dropped down in the ranks after I watched it a few more times and started noticing bad edits. Still, it has the classic "sleeping bag" kill, the aforementioned "Jason vs. Carrie" fight, the guy from Weekend At Bernies gets killed (righteously so), Jason whips out his souped-up weed-whacker, John Carl Buechler gives us what would become the definitive zombie Jason (complete with that awesome exposed spine and mauled face!), and this was the beginning of Kane Hodder's four-film run as Jason. 4/5

Part 8 - The infamous "Jason Takes Manhattan" that I have to agree with most people as it being the suckiest of the group. Why would Jason even leave Crystal Lake in the first place!? I guess for a series that has to bring in some new plot twist for each installment, the best they could think up was, "let's take Jason into the city!". A novelty that no doubt inspired future such sequel Babe: Pig in the City. Featuring all of 2 minutes of actual Manhattan footage, there are only two moments I can even consider as being highlights for this one: Jason scaring off a gang of punks (thought killing them would've made more sense) and the always enjoyable "decapitation uppercut" roof boxing match. Everything else was just baaaaaad. 1/5

Jason Goes to Hell - ...and so does the audience. I'll give it to the creative staff behind it though, they didn't just go for something slightly different for the formula here, they went so far over the top that it's a whole different movie... or, as was mentioned in the thread earlier, they remade it into The Hidden. Personally, the only high points for me were Jason's run-in with the SWAT team (why did nobody think of doing something like this before in regards to a monster who's killed something like 60 people before?!), the use of both the Necronomicon and the ceremonial dagger props from Army of Darkness, the Evil Dead style "giant demon arms exploding from the monster" finish, and the big *wink*wink* Freddy glove ending. 2/5

Jason X - Once again borrowing from other horror movies of the time, Jason's send off into space was another case of "something different, but nothing new". The simulation kill was the best scene, and the movie looked like a well budgeted sci-fi flick, but even after the Super Zombie thing and body jumping thing, this was a little too goofy for even my tolerance. The first F13 movie I saw at the theater and the last call for Kane Hodder's rendition of the Big J. 3/5

Freddy vs. Jason - After a decade of re-writes and rights conflicts it finally came together. I was expecting some kind of epic reach at sending it WAY over the top in terms of story, like Goes to Hell, but instead it wound up being a very simple, basic little slasher flick that fit both characters well and felt like a return to basics after Jason's last few outings. Nothing overly complicated, no messing with the characters' backstories (I thought for sure they'd make Freddy turn out to be Jason's father ala Luke and Vader), just straight forward slaughter of high school students. Granted, the final battle was overly "actiony", but with studio money and the build up to a face-off fans have been waiting decades for, you expected it. 4.5/5

The Remake - Beyond picking out the pieces they borrowed from each of the first four movies, I was bored. I'm not even being a "purist" and hating on it because it's a remake produced by Michael Bay. I didn't hate it, I was just so BORED by it! Nothing new. Nothing interesting. The ending was one of those "why do these people have no common sense?!" situations that just left me with a bad taste in my mouth when it was all over. Blah. Crap. Slick looking, over produced, boring crap. 2/5



Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 22, 2009, 02:34:35 PM
Part 4 - What new stuff can you bring to the series? Kill Jason. Let Corey Feldman dress himself up like Kid Jason and stab the big ghoul in the head with his own machete. But before that, let Crispen Glover dance around like he's having an epileptic fit. Anyone else seen the "Back in Black" clip of this on YouTube where they describe how the dancing was originally intended? It's much more memorable the way it ended up. As for the movie itself? Didn't make a big impression on me despite the Tom Savini kills and Alice Cooper's "Man Behind the Mask" theme song. It's my fiancee's favorite, but I think that's just because she has a crush on Crispen Glover. 2.5/5

Dude, "Man Behind The Mask" was from Part 6. (I sound like a geek now)  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Saucerman on February 23, 2009, 12:02:51 AM
I saw the new one today.  I've never seen any of the prior Jason movies.  I've never seen any of the Halloween or Nightmare on Elm Street movies.  I went in, effectively, a slasher movie virgin.  I knew the basic tropes, but that was it.

I loved it.

It was everything I felt I could ask for in a slasher movie. 

I'll probably be seeing it again soon. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 23, 2009, 12:14:50 PM
I saw the new one today.  I've never seen any of the prior Jason movies.  I've never seen any of the Halloween or Nightmare on Elm Street movies.  I went in, effectively, a slasher movie virgin.  I knew the basic tropes, but that was it.

I loved it.

It was everything I felt I could ask for in a slasher movie. 

I'll probably be seeing it again soon. 

Holy cream crackers catwoman! Just wait 'til you watch all the old 80's slasher flicks!


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Doggett on February 23, 2009, 12:16:19 PM
I saw the new one today.  I've never seen any of the prior Jason movies.  I've never seen any of the Halloween or Nightmare on Elm Street movies.  I went in, effectively, a slasher movie virgin.  I knew the basic tropes, but that was it.

I loved it.

It was everything I felt I could ask for in a slasher movie. 

I'll probably be seeing it again soon. 

Holy cream crackers catwoman! Just wait 'til you watch all the old 80's slasher flicks!

Hasn't seen Halloween!!!! :buggedout:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Saucerman on February 23, 2009, 12:31:38 PM
The lovely young lady I saw it with has requested a weekend of my time to show me all the classics. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 23, 2009, 03:12:21 PM
I saw the new one today.  I've never seen any of the prior Jason movies.  I've never seen any of the Halloween or Nightmare on Elm Street movies.  I went in, effectively, a slasher movie virgin.  I knew the basic tropes, but that was it.

I loved it.

It was everything I felt I could ask for in a slasher movie. 

I'll probably be seeing it again soon. 

Holy cream crackers catwoman! Just wait 'til you watch all the old 80's slasher flicks!

Hasn't seen Halloween!!!! :buggedout:

I've got to agree.

How can you not have at least seen Halloween with as many times as it has been on television?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Saucerman on February 23, 2009, 08:12:13 PM
I blame it on a general lack of interest in slasher movies, preferring the cheesy radiation-spawned monsters of the 1950s.  I've only just begun to diversify.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ds21 on February 23, 2009, 08:46:21 PM
You may be disappointed with Halloween... it's pretty sophisticated.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 23, 2009, 10:39:24 PM
The lovely young lady I saw it with has requested a weekend of my time to show me all the classics. 
Even better when you see it with a date, so to speak.  Which ones are you seeing?  Friday? Nightmare? Halloween?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Saucerman on February 23, 2009, 10:43:00 PM
The lovely young lady I saw it with has requested a weekend of my time to show me all the classics. 
Even better when you see it with a date, so to speak.  Which ones are you seeing?  Friday? Nightmare? Halloween?

Yes.  Her insistence is on the highlights of each series, plus Hellraiser 1 and 2. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 23, 2009, 10:47:49 PM
The lovely young lady I saw it with has requested a weekend of my time to show me all the classics. 
Even better when you see it with a date, so to speak.  Which ones are you seeing?  Friday? Nightmare? Halloween?

Yes.  Her insistence is on the highlights of each series, plus Hellraiser 1 and 2. 
That's a close one.  Me, personally, would say the highlights of Friday would be 1, 2, 4, and 8.  Friday part 4 was great, having both Crispin Glover and Corey Feldman in it.  Can't top that.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 24, 2009, 12:56:02 AM
The lovely young lady I saw it with has requested a weekend of my time to show me all the classics. 
Even better when you see it with a date, so to speak.  Which ones are you seeing?  Friday? Nightmare? Halloween?

Yes.  Her insistence is on the highlights of each series, plus Hellraiser 1 and 2. 
That's a close one.  Me, personally, would say the highlights of Friday would be 1, 2, 4, and 8.  Friday part 4 was great, having both Crispin Glover and Corey Feldman in it.  Can't top that.

 :lookingup:

Obviously somebody is a masochist.


Let's at least share our histories with the F13 franchise; perhaps we can understand each of our psychosis with this (I'll never understand why somebody would think Jason Does Manhattan is a highlight :tongueout:).


My first Friday film was part 3. I was not a fan of the franchise at the time, and for years to come. I had already subjected myself to more than enough slasher films at the drive-in, and being that I could see 3 or 4 movies in one night versus 1 in a walk-in, it seemed more budget friendly.

The only reason I went to see part 3 was the 3D. Comin' at Ya had hooked me on 3D movies, so I caught one whenever it came out. Well, at least I got a poster out of it; and it was way cooler than the movie.

Either on TV, or perhaps a rental (though I think it was a TV edit) I caught the first movie; after having seen part 3. Not having been familiar with the franchise beyond part 3, I was naturally expecting Jason; well, he was sort of there. I must say that the discovery of the killer was quite disappointing. Of course, I probably would have thought differently if I had seen this in a different order rather than expecting a killer to compare to Jason and instead finding it unbelievable that this woman was responsible for all of this (that's okay...Sleepaway Camp was even more ridiculous).

My next, I believe, Friday movie was part 6. I had seen this in the walk-in. Again...disappointed. Though I thought super zombie Jason was cool, it seems like the film-makers tried to make too much of the rest of the movie a comedy. The comedy aspects just didn't work for me, and if you can claim a Friday movie to have even less character development than normal...this is it. At the time, I did not pick up on a correlation between Tommy reading a copy of The Spear of Destiny and Jason's resurrection; though that could have been a coincidence as it seems that he had a handful of books on the occult that were available off the shelf at the time.

I don't recall when it was that I had first seen part 2. Certainly part 2 makes up for any lacking in the rest of the series. It's shorter than most of the others, but has more character development and story, not to mention the best final girl, and the finest ass on any camp counselor in these movies. The art direction alone that was put into Jason's hermit shack (whatever you want to call it) was amazing; it so looked like something you probably would find a retarded hermit psychopath living in.

I don't remember much of part 4. I caught it on cable and I think I dozed off. I just remember it being dull and the kid having shaved his head, sort of, and hacking away at Jason.

I caught parts 5, 7 and 8 on a, of all things, Friday the 13th weekend on, I believe, the Sci-Fi Channel.

I found part 7 to be entertaining, primarily the beating the girl gave Jason; though the ending was somewhat...well...Friday the 13thish.

Parts 5 and 8 are something I could have done without; and that's in comparison to the rest of the series. If I had wanted to see someone who is not Jason as the killer, I would have gone back to part 1. If it were not for the rooftop boxing scene, part 8 would have been a total wash.

All of my Friday watching has been out of order. I never gave a damn about the series; I frankly tried to avoid it after having seen so many of them. the thought of watching Jason Goes to Hell did not appeal to me at all; especially after Jason Does Manhattan.

I had seen a clip from Jason goes to hell on a DVD called Boogeymen, or something like that; which was nothing more than a collection of clips from various horror movies. Well, the clip intrigued me, and I had a copy of it on MovieCD; that's right, I watched it on my computer.

Perhaps I was expecting less, or I don't know what I was expecting. At first, I was looking to dislike Jason Goes to Hell, particularly since it became apparent early on that it would not be Jason (Kane Hodder) as the actual killer, but somebody possessed by him...his spirit...his larvae...or whatever the hell you call it.

At the same time I was thinking 'this is stupid', I found myself quite enjoying the movie. It moved at such a pace that I didn't have time to get bored with it or think it was too stupid to continue, as is too often the case with the rather anemic pace of some of the earlier entries in the franchise.

Of course there were dumb things throughout Jason Goes to Hell; after all, it's an F13, goddammit. What, you expect Shakespeare?

What Jason Goes to Hell did have, at least that appealed to me, was 90 minutes of entertainment. Of course, for some Friday fans who would have preferred to be bored to tears waiting for something to happen...well. I guess that would be understan...oh, hell no it wouldn't.

Yes, Jason goes to hell changed the backstory, but so has every other entry in the series. I didn't give a damn about the series, consistency, or anything like that, and, perhaps for its difference, Jason Goes to Hell got me interested in the series.

Of course, I had seen most of the movies by them, but I re-watched some, and Had not seen Jason X.

Jason X was a mixed bag for me. Overall, though, it was entertaining. The characters in it were annoying, and deserved to be offed; I found myself rooting for Jason. The android to me was super annoying, and the best thing that happed to her was when she got her head lopped off; but she kept talking, just shove something in her mouth (every one of you should be ashamed of yourselves for thinking that). And last, but far from least, where the hell is the T&A?

Certainly the franchise is one of films that are more of personal taste than whether or not any of them are good, or even better than one another.

Even though I don't like several of them, I can understand the appeal of some of those to others.

Part 4 was more dark and brutal, and I think it would have probably been received better if I had seen it on the big screen or as something other than to fill some time as there was nothing else on of interest.

Part 5 didn't appeal to me for the lack of Jason. It just seemed more of a  poor murder mystery with gore. Though compared to other slasher films that aren't part of the franchise, it probably is just as enjoyable, perhaps even more so than some of them; I just couldn't get into it as I knew it wasn't Jason behind the mask and that alone did not seem that threatening.

Part 6 was Jason on steroids. It is definitely understandable why someone could like that more than I did. Jason rocks in it; it, for me, was just that the rest of it didn't.

Part 8 was...oh dear god...what a steaming pile of crap. I'm sorry, but I just cannot fathom somebody not only liking that, but thinking it is one the better ones...seek therapy :lookingup:. Perhaps if they made this into a 15 minute short where Jason offs those on the boat, Jason takes his jaunt through Manhattan (the part we we waited that damn long for), Jason takes on the gang, Jason in the rooftop boxing scene (admittedly...one of the most memorable scenes in any of the movies), and do away with that stupid ending...instead have something like in King Kong vs. Godzilla where Jason swims out to sea.


Yes, the series is admittedly likable by some. No, I don't think anybody can provide a rational explanation for that.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ToyMan on February 24, 2009, 02:19:50 AM
wow, the snobbery coming from B MOVIE FANS in this thread is really ironic.

maybe the dude just liked the movie because... gee, i dunno... it's not a bad film, and it appeals to what he expects out of a movie?!

furthermore, honestly, some of the films that you guys are putting above this one in terms of quality are, when viewed without knowing how revered they are, aren't all that hot. halloween? if you've seen bay of blood (aka: twitch of the death nerve), isn't really so great. sure, it has more tradition, fan admiration, sequels, and all of that, but if it just doesn't appeal to you, it just doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Jim H on February 24, 2009, 05:44:32 AM
On a semi-related note, the "stupendous" boobs in one scene in the remake are the best naked breasts I've ever seen in a horror film.  Which is kind of funny because of the context of the scene.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Saucerman on February 24, 2009, 07:15:33 AM
On a semi-related note, the "stupendous" boobs in one scene in the remake are the best naked breasts I've ever seen in a horror film.  Which is kind of funny because of the context of the scene.

Agreed.  Much better than the ones on the first chick to get naked -- those just looked so painfully fake to me. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: zombie #1 on February 24, 2009, 07:30:20 AM
in Jason takes Manhattan, when he gets off the boat and starts walking along he walks past some guys with a ghetto blaster and the rap song playing goes something like:

"welcome to manhattan
-something something something-
if the drugs don't get you then the hookers will"

anyone know what that track is? Ive been trying to I.D. it for years


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Menaaard!!! on February 24, 2009, 08:08:49 AM
maybe the dude just liked the movie because... gee, i dunno... it's not a bad film...

Perhaps with the exception of part 2, all of the Friday films are bad movies.

Didn't you notice the sign when you walked into this place? It's called BadMovies.org


furthermore, honestly, some of the films that you guys are putting above this one in terms of quality are, when viewed without knowing how revered they are, aren't all that hot. halloween?

You call us (well specifically me) snobs, then you trash Halloween; and in a grammatically horrible manner?

We trash the Friday films, and yet we still love them.

Why? Hell if I know.

There's some stuff that Friday films are better than; if for nothing else, just simply for its entertainment value (and often, that is the only reason). Halloween ain't one of those things that Friday is better than.


if you've seen bay of blood (aka: twitch of the death nerve), isn't really so great. sure, it has more tradition, fan admiration, sequels, and all of that, but if it just doesn't appeal to you, it just doesn't matter.

I'm not certain which comparison you are making there. Friday compared to Bay of Blood? Halloween compared to Bay of Blood?


What we have been having here is an intelligent...

No...wait a minute...that's not it.

An analytical....

Uhmmm...not it either.


Oh hell....a bunch of boys talking about who has the nicest ass...and this girl and her sisters are all named Friday. We're not admiring their intelligence.


Is that snobbish enough for you?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: AnubisVonMojo on February 24, 2009, 10:11:28 AM
Part 4 - What new stuff can you bring to the series? Kill Jason. Let Corey Feldman dress himself up like Kid Jason and stab the big ghoul in the head with his own machete. But before that, let Crispen Glover dance around like he's having an epileptic fit. Anyone else seen the "Back in Black" clip of this on YouTube where they describe how the dancing was originally intended? It's much more memorable the way it ended up. As for the movie itself? Didn't make a big impression on me despite the Tom Savini kills and Alice Cooper's "Man Behind the Mask" theme song. It's my fiancee's favorite, but I think that's just because she has a crush on Crispen Glover. 2.5/5

Dude, "Man Behind The Mask" was from Part 6. (I sound like a geek now)  :teddyr:

Damn it, you're right CC. Nobody tell my fiancee or she's liable to disown me. :bluesad:


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 24, 2009, 10:52:34 AM
wow, the snobbery coming from B MOVIE FANS in this thread is really ironic.

maybe the dude just liked the movie because... gee, i dunno... it's not a bad film, and it appeals to what he expects out of a movie?!

furthermore, honestly, some of the films that you guys are putting above this one in terms of quality are, when viewed without knowing how revered they are, aren't all that hot. halloween? if you've seen bay of blood (aka: twitch of the death nerve), isn't really so great. sure, it has more tradition, fan admiration, sequels, and all of that, but if it just doesn't appeal to you, it just doesn't matter.
I just really liked Friday part 4.  Nobody else does, apparently.  Don't really care if they do or not. 


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 24, 2009, 11:03:48 AM
The lovely young lady I saw it with has requested a weekend of my time to show me all the classics. 
Even better when you see it with a date, so to speak.  Which ones are you seeing?  Friday? Nightmare?

 :lookingup:

Obviously somebody is a masochist.







I don't remember much of part 4. I caught it on cable and I think I dozed off. I just remember it being dull and the kid having shaved his head, sort of, and hacking away at Jason.





Jason X was a mixed bag for me. Overall, though, it was entertaining. The characters in it were annoying, and deserved to be offed; I found myself rooting for Jason. The android to me was super annoying, and the best thing that happed to her was when she got her head lopped off; but she kept talking, just shove something in her mouth (every one of you should be ashamed of yourselves for thinking that). And last, but far from least, where the hell is the T&A?

Certainly the franchise is one of films that are more of personal taste than whether or not any of them are good, or even better than one another.


Part 4 was more dark and brutal, and I think it would have probably been received better if I had seen it on the big screen or as something other than to fill some time as there was nothing else on of interest.



Part 6 was Jason on steroids. It is definitely understandable why someone could like that more than I did. Jason rocks in it; it, for me, was just that the rest of it didn't.

Part 8 was...oh dear god...what a steaming pile of crap. I'm sorry, but I just cannot fathom somebody not only liking that, but thinking it is one the better ones...seek therapy :lookingup:. Perhaps if they made this into a 15 minute short where Jason offs those on the boat, Jason takes his jaunt through Manhattan (the part we we waited that damn long for), Jason takes on the gang, Jason in the rooftop boxing scene (admittedly...one of the most memorable scenes in any of the movies), and do away with that stupid ending...instead have something like in King Kong vs. Godzilla where Jason swims out to sea.


Yes, the series is admittedly likable by some. No, I don't think anybody can provide a rational explanation for that.
Like you said, it's all a matter of personal taste.  Hell, you like Jason Goes to Hell, my least favorite of the franchise.  I don't dislike any of them, but there's ones I prefer to watch more than others.  After all, this is a site that celebrates B-Movies, bad movies, etc.  Friday parts 4 and 8 are probably the worst of the franchise, bad movies, and I like them.  Have I seen better movies? Yes.  But I enjoyed them for what they were.  As you said, it's not Shakespeare.  I'm not expecting Hamlet or Romeo and Juliet.  I know plenty of people who like Friday part 5, that god-awful flick, more than part 2, the 'best' of the franchise.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: Jim H on February 24, 2009, 08:19:28 PM
wow, the snobbery coming from B MOVIE FANS in this thread is really ironic.

maybe the dude just liked the movie because... gee, i dunno... it's not a bad film, and it appeals to what he expects out of a movie?!

furthermore, honestly, some of the films that you guys are putting above this one in terms of quality are, when viewed without knowing how revered they are, aren't all that hot. halloween? if you've seen bay of blood (aka: twitch of the death nerve), isn't really so great. sure, it has more tradition, fan admiration, sequels, and all of that, but if it just doesn't appeal to you, it just doesn't matter.
I just really liked Friday part 4.  Nobody else does, apparently.  Don't really care if they do or not. 

I'd actually say it is one of the better liked entries in the series overall.  I mean, it's got Corey Feldman in it, and Crispin Glover dancing.  It also has the hacksaw to the neck kill, one of the best in the entire series.  I dunno, I quite enjoy it.

I actually think part 2 is a less entry in the series, which puts me in the minority.  I must admit it has been quite a while since I've seen it though.  Kind of fun trying to rank the series.  Keep in mind this is based off how much they entertain me, nothing else. 

Best to worst:

Freddy VS Jason
Friday Part 6
Friday Part 4
Friday Remake (pretty unsure about this one, may have to watch it again to be sure)
Jason X
Jason Goes to Hell
Friday Part 3
Friday Part 1
Friday Part 7
Friday Part 2
Friday Part 8
Friday Part 5


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: ds21 on February 25, 2009, 10:19:17 AM
wow, the snobbery coming from B MOVIE FANS in this thread is really ironic.

maybe the dude just liked the movie because... gee, i dunno... it's not a bad film, and it appeals to what he expects out of a movie?!

furthermore, honestly, some of the films that you guys are putting above this one in terms of quality are, when viewed without knowing how revered they are, aren't all that hot. halloween? if you've seen bay of blood (aka: twitch of the death nerve), isn't really so great. sure, it has more tradition, fan admiration, sequels, and all of that, but if it just doesn't appeal to you, it just doesn't matter.

I dunno...I saw Halloween recently, and expected it to be a boring, cheesy film...so I wasn't really expecting it to be as good as it was.


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 25, 2009, 09:40:55 PM
wow, the snobbery coming from B MOVIE FANS in this thread is really ironic.

maybe the dude just liked the movie because... gee, i dunno... it's not a bad film, and it appeals to what he expects out of a movie?!

furthermore, honestly, some of the films that you guys are putting above this one in terms of quality are, when viewed without knowing how revered they are, aren't all that hot. halloween? if you've seen bay of blood (aka: twitch of the death nerve), isn't really so great. sure, it has more tradition, fan admiration, sequels, and all of that, but if it just doesn't appeal to you, it just doesn't matter.

I dunno...I saw Halloween recently, and expected it to be a boring, cheesy film...so I wasn't really expecting it to be as good as it was.
The original Halloween is a classic.  Did you see the remake as well?


Title: Re: Friday the 13th remake equals moose sh!t
Post by: HarlotBug3 on March 02, 2009, 03:41:47 PM
The original was fun in context of its time. The sequels, with the near-exception of Freddy vs. Jason were all reminders that, for a while now, the american movie-goer would rather be told they're stupid than be asked to be smart.

NONE of the originals were 'good.' Who that you respect told you the remake would be?

If your answer is "no one" then you deserve to pay to see it again.