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Hello again, badmoviephiles.  I know you're all probly wondering what I think is the worst film of all.  Well the absolute worst of the worst film in my humble opinion was directed by Rob Zombie himself.  After seeing it, I think they should ban him from the movie industry so he'll stick to recording trash metal songs.  The reason I call this the worst film in history is not because of the reality flaws in it.  Its the fact that Rob made a bunch of serial killers with no redeeming moral values whatsoever the heroes of this film.  I shouldn't say heroes because they do absolutely nothing heroic in the film.  This film was none other than the Devil's Rejects.  I'm sure glad there hasn't been any new films from Rob Zombie in the past decade or so.  Hopefully, the MPAA put a strict ban on all his material.

No new horrors from Rob Zombie in the last decade or so?

Hmmm....HALLOWEEN (2007)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtR9Fxz2lng

Personally...I enjoyed the DEVIL'S REJECTS because of,not in spite of, the fact that he played with the emotions of the audiance. You yourself defined the sadistic trio as heros...hence his ploy works,to some extent.

As for his HALLOWEEN....I liked the first part...when Micheal was a youngster...than it became a run of the mill slasher pic.

There are a lot worse films than The Devil's Rejects. 

Yep.

There's Frogs. :hatred: :hatred: :hatred:

Mr. Zombie does make some very mean spirited films though.

Doggett, I know you have a copy of "Frogs" that you cuddle up with each night as you go to sleep.   :bouncegiggle:

"Methinks he doth protest too much" or something like that.

I hate it so much. It's stuck in my memory. I was forced to watch it!!!
FORCED!!!! Like Malcolm McDowell

*Doggett breaks down in tears as he has a flashback to his viewing of Frogs* :bluesad:

I...just..can't..take..it...
I didn't know films were ever made that bad.

I wasn't prepared for it.

I wasn't to know!!!!

I WASN'T TO KNOW!!!!!

WW, I agree with you about the quality of THE DEVIL'S REJECTS (not that it should be banned--hope that part was an exaggeration).  Definitely in the bottom 5% of all movies I've seen, although there are worse. 

Yeah, The Devil's Rejects is a bad film. However I too have seen far worse films. Can't say it's in the bottom 5% of bad films I seen, maybe bottom 25% of them. Granted I have searched out for really bad movies anyway I can because i think I have a maschistic tendency when it comes to films.

Boy...lotsa hate for DEVIL'S REJECTS....lemme think...considering that the Elmstreet films,HALLOWEEN,Jason and his ilk,SAW,HOSTEL,all are loaded with murder and torture....and have fans all over the place...yet when the monsters are given human qualities-it freaks out and turns off viewers. Undertstandable. But I believe that is what Mr.Zombie was going for. A horror film that horrorfies.

What Rob Zombie did was infuse lot's of very black graveyard humor into a very sadistic LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT type of film. And that catches a lot of viewers of guard.... people don't like their emotions played with like that. He walked a very thin line....the scene in the motel room was a little too much for me....I think the movie could have done without the forced BJ .

But I enjoyed the performances of all the players,and some of the dialouge is bizzarley funny....and the movie is   horrific. It worked for me. And the choice of music was good.

Plus I liked the cast of horror and expliotation vets and bit parts by PJ Soles,Mary Wornov,Ginger Lynn etc.

I enjoyed THE DEVIL'S REJECTS.  I also enjoyed HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES.  But I hated Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN remake. 

Just the opposite for me, Berg - I didn't really care for REJECTS or CORPSES, but really liked Halloween!

RC I think kind hit the nail.  Rob Zombie I think aims to recapture the old exploitation genres and camp films.  There is really no difference between The Devil's Rejects and The Hills Have Eyes or Last House On The Left.  Though I'm not a fan of the genre, I can appreciate where he was coming from. 

I have a strong dislike for Hostel.

I dislike Eli Roth in general. 

I also don't like Cabin Fever, everyone told me it was great but I couldn't see why.

The Devil's Rejects had a couple of things going for it. I liked the way it turned the tables on the killers, turning them into victims. Poetic justice that they get a taste of their own sadistic medicine, and kind of an interesting demonstration of audience manipulation. Again, WW is missing the point of making the killers into the heroes. It's a very deliberate thing, making us hate them, then showing a less sadistic side of them, making them kind of likeable, and then inviting sympathy for them while supplanting them with a bigger villain, then finally encouraging the audience to root for them outright. It says something about human nature. In that regard, I thought it was quite clever.

I also liked this scene:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd1KfrlI0mU

That said, I don't think it was as good as House of 1,000 Corpses, which I thought really captured the feel of a low-budget 1970s exploitation horror flick. I also found Captain Spaulding funnier in the first one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R3CP-leVnw&feature=related

My ex made me watch Cabin Fever, after she'd rented it. It was awful, then she called me a sick pervert for watching it.........she made me watch it!??  :hatred: :question: :bluesad:

Like Andy C pointed out, if there is a huge beacon of light in Zombie's films its Sid Haig as Spaulding. Zombie's gal pal seems to get casted because...well...she is Zombie's gal pal.   Bill Moseley's character annoys me but I have to admit Moseley plays a great prick.  I also dug William Forsythe in TDR.

I like the range of emotions you went through :teddyr:

The Movie CAPTIVITY Was Hideously bad

Me, I never really felt sympathy for the killers in "Rejects", though I do think they were given an excellent ending: They aren't executed by the feral sheriff, but they do end up getting a taste of exactly what they do to other people, before ironically being saved by someone who loves them and driving off, simply accepting death in the same way they lived.

And count me among those who liked "Corpses" better, it actually had a cool sense of humor whereas "Rejects" was just mean for the most part. ;)

I didn't understand House of 1,000 Corpses, the Firefly's were just too cartoony, goofy, and shallow to be believable, and they had no motive to do what they did. The whole idea of the movie-- "Young people get stranded, end up hacked to bits by backwoods pyschos" has been done so many times. It's like Rob Zombie was trying to make a cult movie for a mainstream audience. I'll say it was fun to watch, but it's not revolutionary nor did it live up to any of it's hype.

This scene usually makes me laugh...NSFW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4XmI0eBiMQ

OK: IT"S ONLY A MOVIE.

Let's get this straight...it is only a movie. Dammit! Sid Haig.Bob Mosley. Ken Foree. Micheal Berryman. etcetcetc. People act like this is some kinda serious comment on life. IT IS A HORROR MOVIE.Whadda ya want outta a HORROR movie? Nowadays...crap like HOSTEL and SAW? or something that makes you reconsider your own values? Cheap thrrills is part of what Zombie was aiming at....and at questioning our own indulgence in cheap thrills. Before you condem Devils Rejects...consider why you lke HALLOWEEN...or the Jason series...or any gore film. Plot devolpment? Insight? No. YOU WANT TO SEE PEOPLE DIE IN REAL GORY WAYS. Sooooo....who is the real sadist? the fictional charecters on screen? Or we who pay to see it? OOOOiiieeeeeooo...!

It's times like this I really wish I could give RC some karma.

Epic Movie....

I think that was it. I was deployed to Afghanistan and we had a shared drive full of free movies. I couldn't make it through the first 15 minutes - literally. I think they were at the point were they were doing some Willy Wonka parody and I couldn't bare it anymore.

I condemn House of 1,000 Corpses for not living up to the hype-- the whole big deal is that Rob Zombie was having such a hard time releasing because of censors and ratings boards, whilst editors in Horror-Magazines we're raving on about the mans unique vision. And then when this contraversial piece came out, it was a spliced-up cartoon of Texas Chainsaw Massacre!

Atleast Devils Rejects wasn't ridiculously hyped, and it was nasty-- which Corpses should have been.

Were you a sick pervert BEFORE you watched it? Perhaps she had an idea you were and was just verifying it. ..  :bouncegiggle:

No.

I just found DEVIL'S REJECTS relentlessly unpleasant, depicting and glorifying the worst aspects of humanity, and not horrifying.  It takes some sort of talent, I guess, to pound the audience with creative images of cruelty.  It takes some sort of talent to fill the screen with repulsive images that make the audience retch, too.  I just don't think its worth using your talent in that way, and I don't think the final product is worth watching.

I also hated the heroic death scene Zombie awarded the Fireflies.  The only happiness there for me is that there won't be a sequel.

The audience manipulation AndyC talks about didn't work for me.  I appreciate, in theory, that Zombie tried to do something a little different there.  But since I wasn't willing to go along with the project, and I resented the attempt, I ended up watching a movie with two sets of people to root against, and no one to root for.  I guess that creative aspect makes it a little better than more commercial torture porn like SAW and HOSTEL, but to me, that's like winning an award for best acting in an adult video.   

I liked HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES better, because it was a horribly directed, pretentious mess that I could laugh at--a true bad movie.  THE DEVIL'S REJECTS suffered from being (technically) too good, making it a movie that's no fun to watch because it achieves its unpleasant effect too well.

It's a tough question of tone when tackling this kind of material.  I think HENRY, PORTRAIT OF A SERIAL KILLER is a small materpiece, and despite the gore and scenes that make you squirm, it's truly horrifying to think of a real life figure like Henry.  I didn't get that feeling at all from THE DEVIL'S REJECTS.

The situations were unpleasant, and put in the proper hands could have been truly disturbing. But, it was so blatant that these are bad people doing bad things, it was just boring. After the tenth time of hearing f**k, it loses its intimidation.

Henry is next to the top on my list of greatest horror movies. Brilliantly scary, and a great learning tool for fledgling serial killers.

There are many worst movies, but, no list would be complete without Rabbit Test (from 1970s) starring a young Billy Crystal. 

I think the REV put it best.  I hated THE DEVIL'S REJECTS almost as much as I loathe LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT, though I will say that at least LAST HOUSE was there first (with the abusive no-fun cruelty thingee).  HOUSE OF 1000 CORPSES was just silly, derivative tripe. 

Less sadistic?  Everything they do to every stranger they meet is sadistic and depraved.  These characters are the absolute worst examples of humanity I've ever seen.  They make Josef Stalin look like a saint.  I thought this movie's saving grace was at the end when the sheriff killed the matriarch and tied down the father and son in the house, hammered spikes into the hands of the evil son, and set the house on fire.  I was so looking forward to hearing their cries of agony and watching the fire incinerate their evil corpses.  I was disappointed when the Sheriff didn't do this to Sherri Zombie's character, but let her run for her life.  It was nice at least seeing fear on her face.  I wanted the sheriff to catch her and break her neck.  But the ultimate disappointment came when "Tiny" saved her.  Then went inside the house and free the son and father before the flames could consume them.  And then at the end when the three of them tried to run through that police roadblock and the police were shooting at them with .38s.  Those two scenes sealed up my ultimate conclusion that the Devil's Rejects is the absolute worst film in history.

First off, let me say that I do enjoy gore flicks. Does this mean that I must love every gorey movie ever? No. For me, gore alone is not enough. If you just throw buckets of gore at the screen while offering nothing else, I'm probably not going to enjoy the movie all that much. With that said, I've seen House of 1000 Corpses and thought it was, at best, okay.

My personal worst movie, however, is still Dark Harvest. It's not the worst-written, acted or produced movie I've ever seen, but something about it made me actually angry at the movie. Usually I'm just bored or annoyed with terrible movies and entertain myself by riffing on it, but this one actually p**sed me off.

It is hilarious how absolutely crazed people seem to get over Devils Rejects ?!?! Personally I love the movie though I haven't watched it in a couple years because of when first I purchased it , myself and my girlfriend watched it nonstop. So with that said here are a few movies I think really suck :

Anyone seen Madonnas WHOS THAT GIRL? Omg that movie grates on my soul , and I own it! Or how about the 2005 release of THE BTK KILLER , whoa I mean I was really hopping "something" might happen in that one , but never did. How about this gem THE LAST MINUTE by Stephen Norrington , you know from the first BLADE, this movie went nowhere as well. I own at least (have not updated my catalogue in some time) 1000 VHS and at least half as many DVD's not including  box sets and I have almost never thrown away a movie till yesterday when I tried to watch THE LAST MINUTE  for the third time. Also this movie , The MOVIE HERO , with Jeremy Sisto , wow even good ole Peter Stormare couldn't do anything for that hunk o' junk.

Anyway , just my few cents . Have fun.

Manos, Hands of Fate

Need I say more???

 :buggedout: :bouncegiggle:

I have seen the Rejects, it was ok.  I like the House of 1000 Corpses.  Both very brutal.

It's a tie between Manos and Blood Feast.  Close behind would be Blood Freak, Billy Madison, Midnight, and others.

THE MAIZE: THE MOVIE (2004), released to DVD as DARK HARVEST 2: THE MAIZE.  It's literally two hours of the producer/director/writer/star wandering around a corn maze yelling "Girls? Girls! Girls?" like a confused, balding Motley Crue fan.  Aforementioned producer/director/writer/star is currently in a tremendous amount of legal trouble for tax fraud to the tune of $70,000. 

Both House and Rejects were both very brutal, inflincheng, and mean spirited.  In that manner, they did exactly what they set off to do and it worked. 

If that's the worst movie you've ever seen, consider yourself lucky.  It doesn't even come close to being in the top 100 worst movies I've seen. 

Night Patrol  or Tintorrera for me or maybe Skullduggery

Naw that movie was actually pretty good, I mean the whole thing Rob Zombie was trying to get at was how those group of killers weren't really that different from the sheriff. Hence they both give speeches about how they are being guided by "divine deities", while they commit they're atrocities.

The sheriff says at one point he is doing the lords work, while the firefly guy gives a speech about how he is a servant for the devil or something. I don't remember the film too clearly but I think what Rob was trying to communicate with his film was the danger of religion, and how extremism on either side can cause people to commit viscous acts of violence,
while using a ideology as a scapegoat.

I also think it was a clever satire of the "serial killer genre" in some regards, but I certainly don't feel he was making them out to be hero's, although it may seem that way considering there weren't really any "good" characters in the film.

But anyway I need to say that the worst film of all time is "the item", which is a satire I understand, but the fact that it commits the capital sin of filmmaking, namely being boring is what makes it so terrible...

I got the point he was trying to make, but it kind of falls flat on its face for me when the Sheriff is brutalizing people who from everything we've seen in the film basically deserve it.  And, in fact, he doesn't hurt anyone innocent the entire film.  He went overboard in torturing them, that's the worst thing you can really say about his character - he should have just shot them all in the head and ended the film there. 

I don't hate The Devil's Rejects, and think it has some decent qualities - good acting, for one.  I also think the sequence with the ice cream and related scenes makes you wonder how well Zombie could handle a film from a genre other than horror.  Regardless, I never felt any real sympathy for the lead characters.  They got what they deserved.

I think Dead Life is the worst movie I've ever seen.  It's just awful.

I'm very tolerable of movies, which means that it's very rare for a movie to be rejected by me. The only films that were so bad I couldn't bare to watch it to the end were Flight of Fury, Deadly Blessing, The Groove Tube and Talladega Nights.

it's a tie with me- Monster a Go go for giving the audience the big F-you and Superbabies 2 for being just, eh.......gross

The message Zombie was trying to get across with the DEVIL'S REJECTS seemed to be "why are people always ragging on wicked awesome serial killers when the pigs are just as bad?"

That's a good point. Looking back at both movies, the parts that worked for me were the ones played primarily for laughs. The Captain Spaulding scenes at the beginning of 1000 Corpses, The Tutti-Frutti scene, Captain Spaulding stealing a car, Charlie and Clevon buying chickens, and some others. Does make me wonder if Zombie could do a comedy, but that is a big step from lightening a horror movie with a few comic moments.

Perhaps, but are all of his characters getting "what they deserved"?  The "pigs" are not as bad if the victims deserve their punishment.  If in fact, there are annoying, but innocent, victims in ZOMBIE's films, he's aware of their presence and yet knowingly attempts a manipulation (for which he is to be applauded) that apparently worked on many.  Not me; I never cared for these villains and was glad to see them go, like passing gas.  I don't find any rape/torture films entertaining and very rarely worthwhile, and those few instances that may be worthwhile, I have not and will not look at again.  I just do not want to. 

I think we need a Rob Zombie thread. Comments on his movies seem to be eclipsing everything else in this one.

I'd say that is generally a fair interpretation.  It's actually not that different from the way I saw it, really.  It's probably the biggest problem I have with the movie, overall - I don't get how people can really feel that much for such monstrous characters.  Especially when they get such a heroic final sequence - at the end of which I basically had the mental thought of "Good.".

If you read the first post you'll see that this thread is actually about THE DEVIL'S REJECTS.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree there.  These hyperdepraved and hyperevil people didn't seem to be killing to answer to the whims of a twisted deity.  They were killing and torturing for the sake of killing and torturing.  They were loving every second of their depraved acts.

The only point of religion I saw any of them do was when the son was actually challenging God to strike him down with a bolt of lightning.

This film didn't shock or horrify me, nope.  It plain disgusted me pure and simple.  It is a good thing I have an iron stomach.

If there is one thing this film has taught me is Don't judge a book by its cover.  I mean three of the 4 of these people look nice.  Sherry Zombie's character looks hot.  But their exteriors hide hearts made of pure hypertoxic sludge.

I think Rob Zombie should have made the ending like this:  Have all three of them tied down on chairs, douse them all with diesel fuel and set THEM ablaze instead of the house.  That would have been a saving point for this movie.

Apparently, Rob Zombie likes to horrify and disgust his audience.