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Title: Reccomendations?
Post by: ghouck on July 22, 2009, 12:02:40 PM
Based solely on my liking the following movies, tell me what others you would suggest:

(in no particular order)
Naked Lunch
Eraserhead
Liquid Sky
Videodrome
THX 1138






Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: lester1/2jr on July 22, 2009, 12:04:38 PM
the demon seed.  sci fi plus weird


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Doggett on July 22, 2009, 12:08:22 PM
More David Lynch.

Lost Highway
Inland Empire
Mulholland Drive

Hmm....what else...

I'm guessing you've seen The Brood ?

Society ?


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: hellbilly on July 22, 2009, 12:32:19 PM
Andrzej Zulawski's Possession (1981)


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Psycho Circus on July 22, 2009, 12:42:55 PM
The Sinful Dwarf

Braindead (the 80's one, not the Peter Jackson one)

Begotten


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: ghouck on July 22, 2009, 12:44:07 PM
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the demon seed.  sci fi plus weird

I'll try that one, Thanks.


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More David Lynch.

Lost Highway
Inland Empire
Mulholland Drive

Hmm....what else...

I'm guessing you've seen The Brood ?

Society ?

I've seen them all except Inland Empire. Good examples though, I'll give Inland Empire a try.


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Andrzej Zulawski's Possession (1981)

I'll give it a shot, Thanks.


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The Sinful Dwarf

Braindead (the 80's one, not the Peter Jackson one)

Begotten

I see two Braindeads, one made in 1990, and one in 2007. Thanks.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: The Burgomaster on July 22, 2009, 12:47:26 PM

I've seen them all except Inland Empire. Good examples though, I'll give Inland Empire a try.


INLAND EMPIRE is mesmerizing . . . but plan to watch it 3 or 4 times before you even begin to understand it.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Psycho Circus on July 22, 2009, 12:54:29 PM
I see two Braindeads, one made in 1990, and one in 2007. Thanks.


Darn, I meant the 1990 one. Forgot the year.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099173/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099173/)


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Doggett on July 22, 2009, 12:59:19 PM

I've seen them all except Inland Empire. Good examples though, I'll give Inland Empire a try.


INLAND EMPIRE is mesmerizing . . . but plan to watch it 3 or 4 times before you even begin to understand it.

I'm still trying to understand it.

I think it's weird for weirdness sake.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: indianasmith on July 22, 2009, 01:56:51 PM
In the Mouth of Madness
TITUS (a futuristic, sci-fi adaptation of Shakespeare's worst play ever, with Anthony Hopkins and Jessica Lange, it is beyond weird)


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Derf on July 22, 2009, 03:15:52 PM
Forbidden Zone
12 Monkeys

Maybe Jacob's Ladder
Possibly The Dark Backward, though I don't personally care for that one too much.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Psycho Circus on July 22, 2009, 03:33:23 PM
Maybe Jacob's Ladder

Why didn't my noodle sponge think of that!?  :question:


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: RCMerchant on July 22, 2009, 04:43:47 PM
Z.P.G. (1972)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVrtfQ6Udk

Ken Russel's the DEVILS (1971)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Xgm1u_SF4


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Mofo Rising on July 23, 2009, 03:27:21 AM
Forbidden Zone
12 Monkeys

Maybe Jacob's Ladder
Possibly The Dark Backward, though I don't personally care for that one too much.

I don't think Andrew has forgiven me for bringing The Dark Backward to his attention. But, hey, if you like that one, check out Motorama or Rubin & Ed. (Neither of those is on DVD.)

Judging by your suggested movies, I think you should naturally check out any movies directed by David Lynch, David Cronenberg, or Terry Gilliam. They are all off-kilter, and there are more hits than misses.

Sideways, I recommend you check out anything written by Philip K. Dick, especially his later period when he was in the midst of a full-fledged mental breakdown.

Movies though:

The Reflecting Skin - Another movie only available in the U.S. on VHS. Miserably disturbing film. I'd be glad to lend you my copy, as long as I get it back. (You can probably find it for cheap anyway.)

Pi hits the bill, but you've probably seen it.

Aguirre: The Wrath of God - Herzog and Kinski at their best.

Being There - The best political film ever made?

The Butcher Boy - Like Oliver Twist, except the hero does not escape any childhood trauma, but slowly becomes more and more disturbed. Told from his point of view!

Clean, Shaven - Probably the most accurate, visceral portrayal of schizophrenia I've ever seen. You will cringe.

Dead Man - Well, you might not like this, but it's one of my favorite movies.

Intacto - Spanish thriller that builds up to more than the sum of its parts.

Paprika - Or any other anime directed by Satoshi Kon. That guy is crazy, and able to communicate it in style.

Oldboy - Or any other movie by Chan-wook Park. Same as above.

The Ruling Class - A fairly demented take on class structure in '70s England. Really, pretty weird.

Save the Green Planet! - South Korea is quickly becoming one of my favorite film producers. This movie is demented.

The Signal - Probably my favorite low-budget (it doesn't show) horror film in recent years. Very good, and surprisingly funny.

Touching the Void - A mountaineering expedition gone wrong. Starts out bad and slowly gets worse. Really explores the outer edge of human suffering. (Really, the Bony M song is above and beyond your average level of torture.)

Yeah, I just flipped through my Netflix 5-star ratings to give you a sampler, but those seem like they would at least be up your alley.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: ghouck on July 23, 2009, 10:17:43 AM

I don't think Andrew has forgiven me for bringing The Dark Backward to his attention. But, hey, if you like that one, check out Motorama or Rubin & Ed. (Neither of those is on DVD.)

Judging by your suggested movies, I think you should naturally check out any movies directed by David Lynch, David Cronenberg, or Terry Gilliam. They are all off-kilter, and there are more hits than misses.

Sideways, I recommend you check out anything written by Philip K. Dick, especially his later period when he was in the midst of a full-fledged mental breakdown.

Movies though:

The Reflecting Skin - Another movie only available in the U.S. on VHS. Miserably disturbing film. I'd be glad to lend you my copy, as long as I get it back. (You can probably find it for cheap anyway.)

Pi hits the bill, but you've probably seen it.

Aguirre: The Wrath of God - Herzog and Kinski at their best.

Being There - The best political film ever made?

The Butcher Boy - Like Oliver Twist, except the hero does not escape any childhood trauma, but slowly becomes more and more disturbed. Told from his point of view!

Clean, Shaven - Probably the most accurate, visceral portrayal of schizophrenia I've ever seen. You will cringe.

Dead Man - Well, you might not like this, but it's one of my favorite movies.

Intacto - Spanish thriller that builds up to more than the sum of its parts.

Paprika - Or any other anime directed by Satoshi Kon. That guy is crazy, and able to communicate it in style.

Oldboy - Or any other movie by Chan-wook Park. Same as above.

The Ruling Class - A fairly demented take on class structure in '70s England. Really, pretty weird.

Save the Green Planet! - South Korea is quickly becoming one of my favorite film producers. This movie is demented.

The Signal - Probably my favorite low-budget (it doesn't show) horror film in recent years. Very good, and surprisingly funny.

Touching the Void - A mountaineering expedition gone wrong. Starts out bad and slowly gets worse. Really explores the outer edge of human suffering. (Really, the Bony M song is above and beyond your average level of torture.)

Yeah, I just flipped through my Netflix 5-star ratings to give you a sampler, but those seem like they would at least be up your alley.

Thanks Mofo, I have seen almost every Cronenberg and Lynch film, and a couple by Gilliam. The two Davids are dead-center on my radar screen, one of the reasons I was disappointed with "Twin Peaks". I've seen Clean, Shaven, at the suggestion of someone here (good suggestion BTW, suggested due to my interest in Cronenberg's 'spider', another favorite), and I have Agguire: Wrath of God, but haven't watched it yet, one of the few movies I have that I've not watched. I've not seen Pi, I'll check that out. Unfortunately, I have no access to nor way to watch VHS movies, I do thank you for the offer though.

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especially his later period when he was in the midst of a full-fledged mental breakdown.

Wow, I've heard of a few making intense movies while going through a divorce (Cronenberg did, and I believe Lynch did also), but never by someone truly losing their mind. I'll check that out. Thanks for the help.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 23, 2009, 06:38:06 PM
Sorry I got here late, most of the best recommendations have already been given out.

The movies you mention suggest your especially looking for surreal/neo-surreal movies with a strong sci-fi or fantastic element.  I'd second PI, POSSESSION, FORBIDDEN ZONE, TITUS, JACOB'S LADDER.  I do think you'd like THE REFLECTING SKIN, too bad you can't play VHS.  Hopefully it will come out on DVD.   

Here's a few more off the top of my head: DELICATESSEN (future cannibals), CITY OF LOST CHILDREN (steampunk fairy tale), A SCANNER DARKLY (animated, from the same Phillip K. Dick story as Cronenberg's SCANNERS). 

You didn't mention exactly which Gilliam movies you'd seen, but I'd suggest BRAZIL (a must), 12 MONKEYS, TIME BANDITS, ADVENTURES OF BARON MUNCHAUSEN, and maybe TIDELAND. 

You might want to check my review list of weird movies:  http://366weirdmovies.com/the-weird-movie-list/.  You also might look at the suggestions people have made, they mention a lot of movies in the same vein:  http://366weirdmovies.com/suggest-a-weird-movie/.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 23, 2009, 06:45:55 PM
Let me add A BOY AND HIS DOG, if you haven't seen it yet.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 23, 2009, 07:00:27 PM
Dangit!  And you might like DONNIE DARKO too...

That's it.  No more suggestions for you, no matter how perfect I think they may be.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: ghouck on July 23, 2009, 07:59:30 PM
Rev, I've seen all the TG movies you mentioned except Tideland. Donnie Darko: I have to say that's easily in my top 10 favorite movies. I'll check out DELICATESSEN and CITY OF LOST CHILDREN, and DEFINATELY check out A Scanner Darkly.

Bummer that Netflix has virtually nothing by Philip K. Dick


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Mofo Rising on July 23, 2009, 08:08:17 PM
Sorry, Philip K. Dick wasn't a filmmaker, but a science fiction writer. I recommended him because I think you might appreciate his unique approach to unstable realities.

However, many movies have been made of his books. Blade Runner, A Scanner Darkly, Minority Report, Total Recall, Screamers... Some of those are better than the others, a lot better. The original stories are still the best.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Doggett on July 24, 2009, 02:52:50 PM
Gvozdi (nails)

Visions of Suffering


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on July 24, 2009, 03:22:10 PM
Gothic
Infection (J-horror, and pretty out there)
Existenz, although I'm not really into this movie, it's still nice
Nightmare Detective (also J-horror)
Horror
Unspeakable (zero budget, but great film regardless)
Repo Man
Dumplings



Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: AndyC on July 24, 2009, 06:06:09 PM
If you like Cronenberg, you might want to look into another of Canada's acclaimed filmmaking weirdos, Atom Egoyan. The Adjuster is one of his films that I really enjoyed, and he received quite a bit of recognition for Exotica, although I've not yet seen it.

Alan Moyle's Weirdsville is another good one. It has the benefit of being bizarre but funny as hell.

And I assume you've seen Cube. If not, see it, but beware of the sequels. They have their good points, but overall, they detract from the original.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: ghouck on July 24, 2009, 06:38:09 PM
Thanks all, Mofo: I saw most of those, pretty close to what I'm looking for. Joe: Which 'Unspeakable'? Netflix says there are movies of that name made in 2000, 2002, and 2007. Repo Man is a damn good movie, a must-see IMO. I'll check out the rest of those. Cube sounds very intriguing. Thanks.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Kester Pelagius on July 24, 2009, 07:08:55 PM
ghouck,

Lots of great recommends so far.  However if you're looking for just strange cinema try...

Christmas on Mars
Black Candles (http://cryptspace.blogspot.com/2009/06/black-candles-1982.html)
Girl Slaves of Morgana le Fay (http://cryptspace.blogspot.com/2009/06/girl-slaves-of-morgana-le-fay-1971.html)


If you want slightly weird in your horror....

Feast (2005)  :thumbup:
Ravenous
Naked Fear
Ruins (2008)
One Eyed Monster  :drink:
Killer p***y: Sexual Parasite

If you want strange visions of future Dystopias...

Metropolis (still the best after all these years)
1984 (meh)

Should you get tired of the above and want to relax with some slightly weird softporn sleaze try...

Killer Eye
Killer Tongue
Killer Condom
Killers Eroticus :vomit:


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Mofo Rising on July 25, 2009, 02:18:53 AM
If you like Cronenberg, you might want to look into another of Canada's acclaimed filmmaking weirdos, Atom Egoyan. The Adjuster is one of his films that I really enjoyed, and he received quite a bit of recognition for Exotica, although I've not yet seen it.

Atom Egoyan is a really good filmmaker. He is also the man responsible for the absolute saddest movie I have ever seen. Not sad in the sense that it is bad, but sad in the sense that is a never-ending well of misery. The Sweet Hereafter is a film about the after-effects of a small-town community who just watched all their children die in a bus accident. It also features Ian Holm's best performance. I am not an actor, but I can't imagine approaching the level of despair he evokes in that film. Seriously, that movie is tough. I'd watch Requiem for a Dream ten times before I could psych myself up for The Sweet Hereafter again.

Less depressing, I think you should check out The Signal. The cover makes it look like another crappy J-Horror rip off, but is the funniest, most disturbing horror movie I have seen in recent times.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: dean on July 25, 2009, 03:15:52 AM

Jodorwosky has some crazy stuff like Holy Mountain, all worth a look.

I'm pretty much going to second most of Mofo's suggestions, though some don't necessarily fit the films you used as comparison, but they're great films nonetheless!

Satoshi Kon does some crazy psychological anime, Perfect Blue and Paprika two of my favourites.

12 Monkeys and Brazil are two of my favourite Gilliam Films and very much worth a look if you haven't already, though you probably have.

The Signal is a silly horror film, very low budget but has some great moments of comedy and horror in it all in the one.

Scanner Darkly and City of Lost Children get some very strong nods of agreement from me too.

'Bad Boy Bubby' is one Australian film which I'll highly recommend.  Very crazy film and reminds me somewhat of Eraserhead in some ways.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106341/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106341/)

If you haven't seen them, get into some of the David Lynch shorts, which I enjoyed most of them very muchly.  His short 'Cowboy meets a Frenchman' makes me think he should get into more comedy, hilarious stuff.

Jan Svankmajer's Lunacy is a great study of madness, and cow tongues getting freaky...  Lots o' booby too which is nice.  :wink:  [note, booby may or may not always be female...]

Films by Cocteau tend to have a fantastic surreal quality, and are quite classy at times so if you want to impress someone with a weird film may as well be one of his: makes you seem respectful.

I have more on the tip of my tongue but it seems to be dinner time according to my grumbling stomach.




Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Monster Jungle X-Ray on July 25, 2009, 06:12:49 AM
Less depressing, I think you should check out The Signal. The cover makes it look like another crappy J-Horror rip off, but is the funniest, most disturbing horror movie I have seen in recent times.

I saw The Signal recently and was pleasantly surprised, the tone of the film was interesting given that the three acts were made by different directors. It had some problems here and there but was an good virus/apocalypse film. Also it is the rare horror film that is shot in my home town of Atlanta. In the film the city is called Terminus which is a homage to the original name for Atlanta as it was the end of the railroad lines back then.

Pontypool was another good zombie/virus flick. It has a creeping sense of dread about it as the characters are confined to a radio station reporting on the plague while the outside world falls apart. Sort of like Orsen Welles War of the Worlds radio broadcast if he was reporting Night of the Living Dead instead. It has some very Cronenbergesque/Burroughsian ideas about how the virus is spread that are different for the genre.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: RCMerchant on July 25, 2009, 07:38:03 AM
I give my highest recomendations to COMBAT SHOCK. Do'nt watch this with children or yer Mom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfUIA4uF8q4

Basket Case-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uQj7j8yG6A

Brain Damage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfVcaNp2Ayw
In this film-Zacherle provides the voice for the killer-eh-turd?-monster! Wonderful.

Henry-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMklAzo9zlU


Manson (1972)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm9cjrwBIdM


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Frogger on July 25, 2009, 08:54:15 AM
Cube sounds very intriguing. Thanks.


Cube was good, Cube 2 was a bit... well crap. However Cube Zero turned out to be an amazing film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kc6aH2nl98&feature=related


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 25, 2009, 12:58:23 PM
Cube sounds very intriguing. Thanks.


Cube was good, Cube 2 was a bit... well crap. However Cube Zero turned out to be an amazing film.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kc6aH2nl98&feature=related[/url]


CUBE was definitely a great film, right in line with Ghouk's recommendations.  Both sequels were just so-so, in my opinion.  CUBE ZERO is much more like a B-movie than the original CUBE, though, which makes it sort of fun.  But it's too literal, explaining too much and taking away the mystery of the Cube, which was the best part of the series.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: AndyC on July 25, 2009, 02:08:04 PM
CUBE was definitely a great film, right in line with Ghouk's recommendations.  Both sequels were just so-so, in my opinion.  CUBE ZERO is much more like a B-movie than the original CUBE, though, which makes it sort of fun.  But it's too literal, explaining too much and taking away the mystery of the Cube, which was the best part of the series.

I agree. I liked Cube Zero, but it kind of spoiled the original by giving too many answers. The ambiguity was the whole point.

Cube 2 was definitely the weakest of the three, but it had some clever ideas, and I really loved (spoiler) when Geraint Wyn Davies goes nuts amid all of the converging parallel realities and time moving at different speeds, and manages to survive for years by killing and cannibalizing alternate versions of the same guy over and over again.

But the original Cube is still the best, and probably should have been left to stand on its own.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: Frogger on July 25, 2009, 06:31:43 PM
Cube sounds very intriguing. Thanks.


Cube was good, Cube 2 was a bit... well crap. However Cube Zero turned out to be an amazing film.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kc6aH2nl98&feature=related[/url]


CUBE was definitely a great film, right in line with Ghouk's recommendations.  Both sequels were just so-so, in my opinion.  CUBE ZERO is much more like a B-movie than the original CUBE, though, which makes it sort of fun.  But it's too literal, explaining too much and taking away the mystery of the Cube, which was the best part of the series.


I have to agree. I think that was the reason why I enjoyed Cube Zero far more, after my recent viewing of Cube, all the mystery was gone.

Still Cube is a very good film but Cube Zero is well worth a watch. If I was going to re-watch one tonight, it would be Cube zero.

Cube 2 was... I can understand what they where aiming for but it just did not feel right. The time distorted rooms where cool and so were the different realities crossing over. So I felt it was an OK film but the weakest of the series. Not a film I will watch again any time soon.


Title: Re: Reccomendations?
Post by: hellbilly on July 27, 2009, 01:34:28 AM
Just thought of another, Alain Robak's Baby Blood (1990). It goes well with Eraserhead, Videodrome and Possession - which happen to be three of my all time favorite movies  :thumbup:

(http://image.allmusic.com/00/adg/cov200/drt800/t857/t85777wni1x.jpg)