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Title: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: voltron on September 02, 2009, 09:00:25 PM
Sometimes artists put out an album that, for whatever reason, tanks.
Sometimes it's because the album just isn't very good, or maybe it is overshadowed by a previous album that did incredibly well. Case in point:

Pink Floyd - The Final Cut

(http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq64/voltron_014/TheFinalCut.jpg)

This album came out after the somewhat overrated The Wall and didn't reach the success that it's predecesor had. Which is sad, really, because to me, this album is like taking the best parts of The Wall and condensing it onto a single album. The addition of the London Philharmonic only sweetens the deal. The album is much more concise, emotional, and more depressing than The Wall could ever hope to be.

So does anyone else know of good albums that bombed?


Title: Re: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: zombie no.one on September 03, 2009, 06:07:36 PM
good question..I wasn't going to click on this because for some reason I thought you meant films, and I couldn't think of any.

Van Halen III got panned by critics and fans alike, I thought it was pretty good... not comparable to their earlier stuff but not exactly bad. It had Gary Cherone on vocals, talking of which 'Waiting For The Punchline' is definitely my favourite album by Extreme, but you don't really hear anything about it compared with 'Pornograffiti' and 'III Sides To Every Story', which both had all the big singles, but are nowhere near as good (IMO).

Was 'Risk' by Megadeth considered a flop? I remember reading some really bad reviews, but I would put it in their top 3 albums


Title: Re: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: voltron on September 03, 2009, 07:56:11 PM
Here's another one:

Faith No More - Angel Dust

(http://i434.photobucket.com/albums/qq64/voltron_014/angel_dust_faith_no_more.jpg)

This release came out after FNM hit it big with The Real Thing. One critic called it "the most uncommercial album to be released on a major label". Compared to The Real Thing, the album is definately not as accessible as that album. Obviously, it didn't do as well as The Real Thing in America, but supposedly it sold twice the amount of TRT in Europe.
It also marked the point where Mike Patton was involved in the songwriting process. It is an incredible album, one that takes a little while to get used to, but it's a very rewarding piece of work all the same.


Title: Re: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: zombie no.one on September 03, 2009, 08:37:34 PM
'Angel Dust' was massive when it came out over here in England. no one had really heard of FNM before that came out - well 'We Care A Lot' got in the top 40 but they were still considered kind of a novelty act - then when angel dust came out 'everything's ruined' and 'mid life crisis' got big airplay, I remember that. didn't realise it was considered a flop anywhere else. good album


Title: Re: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: ghouck on September 06, 2009, 09:21:51 PM
Jethro Tull had a few albums that really flopped, but it seems that decades later they are still selling. M.U. was one, but it was loaded with good songs.


Title: Re: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: lester1/2jr on September 08, 2009, 10:18:05 AM
Guided by voices didn't win too many new fans or particularly impress older ones with


(http://www.everythingathon.com/GBV-do-the-collapse-750.JPG)

and album I must confess I love


Title: Re: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: WilliamWeird1313 on September 08, 2009, 02:05:22 PM


I wouldn't call it a commercial flop, 'cause in truth it was on of their biggest selling records and the closest they ever came to mainstream success at the time, but I know a loooooot of people hate The Ramones' End Of The Century because of how it departed from the traditional "hard, fast, and loud" of straight punk and went for more of a 50's/60's bubblegum pop/greaser rock/surf vibe. But, personally, I think it's their best album ever, and precisely BECAUSE of those pop/greaser/surf influences.




Title: Re: Critical/commercial flops that shouldn't have been
Post by: Psycho Circus on September 08, 2009, 02:18:06 PM
The Throbs "Language Of Thieves & Vagabonds"

(http://www.geocities.com/the_throbs/images/throbslanguagecov.jpg)

Cited as another "next GNR", The Throbs were a NY glam act that by 1990 discovered their pathos. Due to drug related discrepancies, live shows did not go over well and reviews hurt this album's chances. It's a masterpiece of sleazy blues rock, note for note perfection in every song. Like the Ramones and The Yardbirds mixed inside a blender sitting in Ray Manzarek's kitchen.