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Title: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: zombie no.one on October 04, 2009, 08:24:29 PM ...and by that I specifically mean a sequel that was *directly related* to the original in some way or another, as opposed to an Abbot + Costello/Laurel + Hardy/Carry On... type sequel which was just another film of a similar nature 'involving' the main players...
was it The Godfather Part 2? - that's the best I can come up with. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: SPazzo on October 04, 2009, 08:38:03 PM The first official sequel was Fall of a Nation (1916), the sequel to Birth of a Nation (1915).
According to Wikipedia, the first movie sequel to use "2" in it's name was The French Connection 2. The Godfather Part 2 was the first to use "Part 2" in it's name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequel) http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-18406.html (http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-18406.html) Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: zombie no.one on October 04, 2009, 08:51:30 PM The first official sequel was Fall of a Nation (1916), the sequel to Birth of a Nation (1915). According to Wikipedia, the first movie sequel to use "2" in it's name was The French Connection 2. The Godfather Part 2 was the first to use "Part 2" in it's name. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequel[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequel[/url]) [url]http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-18406.html[/url] ([url]http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-18406.html[/url]) french connection 2, good call. forgot about that. karma! as for those other two early 1900's ones, their names make them sound like documentaries. were they actually 'film's in the true sense? - can't be bothered to trog thru all that wikipedia stuff, lol Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: SPazzo on October 04, 2009, 09:18:48 PM Well, the Birth of a Nation can be seen here: http://www.archive.org/details/dw_griffith_birth_of_a_nation (http://www.archive.org/details/dw_griffith_birth_of_a_nation) (Public Domain).
It isn't so much a documentary as it is a docudrama of the American Civil War, with some pretty racist undertones. Here is the plot summery from IMDb: Quote The Civil War divides friends and destroys families, but that's nothing compared to the anarchy in the black-ruled South after the war. And then a still from the movie: (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Wilson-quote-in-birth-of-a-nation.jpg) Yeah... :buggedout: (Don't shoot the messenger, by the way). Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: zombie no.one on October 04, 2009, 09:48:43 PM And then a still from the movie: ([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Wilson-quote-in-birth-of-a-nation.jpg[/url]) Yeah... :buggedout: (Don't shoot the messenger, by the way). lordy...even Tarantino couldn't think up that kind of s**t, lol Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: Saucerman on October 04, 2009, 09:49:14 PM Paul Wegener's DER GOLEM (1921) is actually the third film in a trilogy, and a prequel to the original DER GOLEM. The original film and the first sequel, THE GOLEM AND THE DANCING GIRL, have since been lost.
That's the earliest scifi/fantasy/horror sequel I've been able to find. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: SkullBat308 on October 04, 2009, 09:52:11 PM What a good question! I never thought about it.
Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: akiratubo on October 04, 2009, 10:19:29 PM Paul Wegener's DER GOLEM (1921) is actually the third film in a trilogy, and a prequel to the original DER GOLEM. The original film and the first sequel, THE GOLEM AND THE DANCING GIRL, have since been lost. That's the earliest scifi/fantasy/horror sequel I've been able to find. Do you know what I would give to see Der Golem? It might not be the first monster rampage set to film but as far as I've been able to determine it's the first one that's a real "movie", as we understand the term. Earlier ones had been shorts. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: zombie no.one on October 04, 2009, 10:34:50 PM Paul Wegener's DER GOLEM (1921) is actually the third film in a trilogy, and a prequel to the original DER GOLEM. The original film and the first sequel, THE GOLEM AND THE DANCING GIRL, have since been lost. so I take it 2 of those films in that trilogy had the same title? never heard of them, unsurprisingly enough...very interesting all the same, thanksThat's the earliest scifi/fantasy/horror sequel I've been able to find. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: Saucerman on October 04, 2009, 11:50:58 PM Paul Wegener's DER GOLEM (1921) is actually the third film in a trilogy, and a prequel to the original DER GOLEM. The original film and the first sequel, THE GOLEM AND THE DANCING GIRL, have since been lost. so I take it 2 of those films in that trilogy had the same title? never heard of them, unsurprisingly enough...very interesting all the same, thanksThat's the earliest scifi/fantasy/horror sequel I've been able to find. Technically, the one that survived to the present is "The Golem: How He Came Into the World" which I can never remember the full German for, and am too lazy to look it up at the moment. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: The Burgomaster on October 05, 2009, 10:07:43 AM Let's not forget:
* FATHER OF THE BRIDE (1950) / FATHER'S LITTLE DIVIDEND (1951) Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: Raffine on October 05, 2009, 12:51:10 PM Paul Wegener's DER GOLEM (1921) is actually the third film in a trilogy, and a prequel to the original DER GOLEM. The original film and the first sequel, THE GOLEM AND THE DANCING GIRL, have since been lost. so I take it 2 of those films in that trilogy had the same title? never heard of them, unsurprisingly enough...very interesting all the same, thanksThat's the earliest scifi/fantasy/horror sequel I've been able to find. Technically, the one that survived to the present is "The Golem: How He Came Into the World" which I can never remember the full German for, and am too lazy to look it up at the moment. THE GOLEM AND THE DANCING GIRL sounds like a real hoot. According to what I've read it was a comedy(!) in which a 'dancing girl' (sometimes translated as a prostitute) falls for Wegener's Golem character after seeing the first film. Wegener, playing himself, find out somehow and decides to make a play for the girl - so he puts on his Golem get up to seduce her, or scare her, or something. Fritz Lang made a sound sequel THE TESTAMENT OF DR. MABUSE (1932) to his silent DR. MABUSE: THE GAMBLER (1922). Since Saucerman isn't looking up original German titles neither am I! :teddyr: Both DRACULA (1931) and FRANKENSTEIN (1931) had sequels (DRACULA'S DAUGHTER and BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN) in which the action takes up moments after the ending of the original films. I can't think of other sequels in which the action picks up immediately from the previous film. Well, I guess HALLOWEEN. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: schmendrik on October 05, 2009, 01:02:26 PM ...and by that I specifically mean a sequel that was *directly related* to the original in some way or another, as opposed to an Abbot + Costello/Laurel + Hardy/Carry On... type sequel which was just another film of a similar nature 'involving' the main players... Well, that probably rules out the "Thin Man" sequels (1930s) where William Powell and Myrna Loy kept reprising their characters as not-quite retired detective married to rich girl. I'm trying to think of any other examples of a similar vintage that I personally know of but failing. The Father of the Bride/Father's Little Dividend example might be the oldest talkie example. French Connection 2 as the first one with "2" in the title sounds about right. Also in the 70s we have "Oliver's Story", a terrible film nobody liked which was a sequel to the very popular "Love Story". That might be about the last time a sequel DIDN'T have a "2" in it. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: schmendrik on October 05, 2009, 01:04:10 PM Both DRACULA (1931) and FRANKENSTEIN (1931) had sequels (DRACULA'S DAUGHTER and BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN) in which the action takes up moments after the ending of the original films. (Head slap). BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN. An obvious one. Can't believe I didn't think of that one. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: Trevor on October 12, 2009, 08:04:06 AM Nice topic. :smile:
In South Africa, it was almost certainly King Solomon's Mines (1918) followed by Allan Quatermaine (1919). The first is still in existence and the second is unfortunately lost. Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: Jim H on October 21, 2009, 03:06:01 PM Nice topic. :smile: In South Africa, it was almost certainly King Solomon's Mines (1918) followed by Allan Quatermaine (1919). The first is still in existence and the second is unfortunately lost. Wow. Didn't know there was such an early version of King Solomon's Mines. Worth checking out? Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: Trevor on October 23, 2009, 12:27:32 AM Nice topic. :smile: In South Africa, it was almost certainly King Solomon's Mines (1918) followed by Allan Quatermaine (1919). The first is still in existence and the second is unfortunately lost. Wow. Didn't know there was such an early version of King Solomon's Mines. Worth checking out? At the National Film Archives, we have ten reels of mostly unedited footage of that film but there are plans to have it restored soon. As it is, it's a little confusing to watch ~ some of the scenes are edited into the film upside down. :question: Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: ER on October 25, 2009, 12:45:14 AM I found out today that the lamentable Son of Kong came out in 1933, less than a year after the release of King Kong.
Title: Re: what was the first ever movie sequel? Post by: Jim H on October 27, 2009, 01:02:50 AM Nice topic. :smile: In South Africa, it was almost certainly King Solomon's Mines (1918) followed by Allan Quatermaine (1919). The first is still in existence and the second is unfortunately lost. Wow. Didn't know there was such an early version of King Solomon's Mines. Worth checking out? At the National Film Archives, we have ten reels of mostly unedited footage of that film but there are plans to have it restored soon. As it is, it's a little confusing to watch ~ some of the scenes are edited into the film upside down. :question: Wow, cool. You should put up a post when that gets done! :thumbup: |