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Ash brought up to me that he feels the different colors for the text and slime drops for the profiles of moderators and webmasters could give the impression that there is an elite clique on the board.  That was never my intent, and I understand why Ash views it that way. 

I guess that the different colors has always been there, since the forum by default has settings for different groups - and I just went ahead and used that idea.  The different colors does let me quickly identify if one of the moderators or other b-movie webmasters is around when I am.  To me that is a useful difference that should hopefully not imply  entitlement.

On the other hand, using different graphics (slimes, vice stars) under a poster's name when they are a mod or webmaster definitely feels elitist when I look at it now.  That probably should change, to something based on post count entirely (as most everyone is).

Just opening this up for discussion, so please chime in with what you think.

I've always understood that those colors and icons were there to differentiate moderators from regular posters. I have absolutely no problems with it at all. Maybe the moderators could just vote on what particular icon or color they want to use, otherwise I don't see why this would need to be an issue at all.  :smile:

I dont think its elitist at all.  :smile:   If someone has a question for a mod or admin its easier to spot them when they have something different under their name.  sure you could just put MOD or ADMIN but that's boring.  :teddyr:

Not a problem.   I like being able to see the mods/webbies easily.  (Funny thing: the *worst* boards for elitism that I have been on have been those where the mods' identities were kept hidden.  Lots of cliques and nastiness on those ones.)  I think elitism rearing its ugly head has more to do with the actual behaviour of those who do have some official standing: you have a good bunch here so it is not an issue.  If something works: don't fix it!

I've been getting that cliquey vibe on this board for awhile now.
For many years it wasn't there.  Then it just seemed to slowly creep up within the last year or so.
I'm not trying to start trouble by bringing it up, but it is how I feel at the moment.

Maybe it's just me.  Maybe it isn't.

I don't feel a a vibe.


But....I kinda would like to be a colour. I don't want to be a moderator....just a colour.
Could you make it happen, Andrew ?

Please.
Pretty please with a cherry on top.  :smile:

I'm a mod and a webmaster.  Regardless of that I feel there aren't any "cliques" here.  Its an open discussion forum and if people want to talk about items, they do.   If they choose not to, they do so as well.

I've never even noticed, which shows you how clueless I am!

But it is nice to know who the mods are, and no, I don't feel left out.

Even with being a 4-slime drop webmaster, I never got the impression of any sort of "BETTER" groups here like on most other forum boards. 

Hmm. I'm a mod and hadn't really noticed this. I noticed that some people had slimes and others had stars, but I never really thought about why. I guess Indy isn't the only clueless one.  :tongueout:

And if I have ever made anyone feel belittled on this board, I apologize.

Now, excuse me--I must get back to the mods-only part of the board. We're streaming Girls Gone Wild - Spring Break tonight.  :buggedout: :bouncegiggle: :twirl: :teddyr:

Can I please have BLACK  text with 4 or 5 cans of soda under my name? jk

I don't feel a a vibe. I think the mods and web masters are all cool.

yes, and i want hairspray icons for mine.

i am new here, but i have had no vibe on any 'cliques'.  there are people that post alot, and over the years have developed friendships, thats the only vibe i see, and it is a good thing.  if i post for a few years, i will def. have other users who i know and trust.  and the newbs a few years from now will say 'paula is in a clique', it is the circle of life.  For example, I have traded posts and karma with Circus and Doggett more-I see connections forming there.  It doesn't mean I don't like Darksider or skullbat...just haven't had a chance to connect with them yet.

dont change the icons.  i have seen the overwhelming number of people say they do not have a prob. with the slime drops.  keep em.

Sometimes the decision is made for us.  :drink: 

Don't know about "slimes" or "stars". 

I never got any elitist cliquey vibes, but I'm socially clueless and inept, virtually and in real life.  :cheers: 

I always assume that there are pre-existing relationships on these things so I never pay attention really. Just do my own thing. :twirl:

i think we all have bigger fish to fry....

Andrew kindly made me a moderator recently which makes me very proud, but I would have liked to see the words GLOBAL MODERATOR OF UNDERPANTS under my name.  :smile: :teddyr:

That pretty much covers my position on the issue as well  :teddyr:

Heh, I wish my stauts said: "Frightening feeder on horrible children"  :teddyr:

Ash (goodness I still think of you as "Ashthecat"), I honestly think that what you may be reacting to is the series of 'in-jokes' that have developed.  Continuations of previous conversations -  often a keyword or phrase - that creep into (and divert?) other posts.  It is easy to get feeling 'left out' when such references are made; but nobody is intentionally excluding anyone.  Jump in, the water's fine and there is room for everybody!

Hmmm, this is something that I can do.  There is an option for custom titles for post count groups - so I set it that anyone with more than 100 posts can create a custom title.  It's under "Profile" then "Forum Profile Information."  It doesn't replace "Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema," but appears directly above it.



You sir, are not helping!


But perhaps everyone should just have slime drops, vice a difference between slimes and stars?  Or are the stars better?

 :bouncegiggle: Oh, I'm gonna have fun with that. Cheers Andrew.

I think what's going on, is the people who use this site everyday (or there abouts) feel more bonded and connected than those johnny-come-lately types and would like a little recognition. Something on their profile that says they're a little special.

Being a moderator says you're a real part of this site, or that your opinion of them is high enough that would would trust them to do the things that moderators have to do...and some (lets be honest, it's just Ash  :wink: *) may feel that they're not quite a part of it. Like they haven't earned what the others have earned. One solution is to make eveyone (at least the regulars) a moderator....hmmmm.....I wonder how succesful that would be ?


The problems is, if there is some sort of reward (or whatever) system then there really will be two tiers of posters.
And no one wants that.

Oh, one last thing.

Do more radio !!!!
You're brilliant !  :cheers:



*I'm just havin' fun, buddy. :teddyr:

Yes ... the slime drops fit the site's style. I would go with the slime drops. :thumbup:

May I have - Frightening Fanatic of Godzilla Flims and

Please and thank you Andrew.

I do like the stars rather than the slimes. But then there's also the skulls?

I'm guessing bats are out of the question ?

Oh, well....can't have everything I suppose.

And after all we've been through Paula... :bluesad:

So it looks like the general consensus is keep things the way they are which I agree with.

Aww.....

We will happily have "connection"s with you !  :teddyr:

 :cheers:

I think you're already part of the gang !
Sometimes you can just tell which posters are gonna stick around.  :thumbup:

Anyone seen ghouck ?  :bluesad:

Sorry I'm off subject ... good question though, where is ghouck and Umaril?

It's not that Newt.  It's something else. (thank you for your input, though)

When I wrote to Andrew telling him how I felt about this, I knew that either he or I would eventually ask everyone here on this board what they personally felt.
I predicted that most everyone would say that there's nothing wrong and there are no cliques here and I was right.

However, I still can't shake this feeling that something has changed.
You don't spend almost 10 years posting regularly on a board without really, really getting to know the ins and outs of every aspect of it.
I can't put my finger on it exactly, but it's definitely there. 
Kind of a "sixth sense feeling" so to speak.  This forum seems somehow different than it did a year ago.

I think every board has some of that clique-ish vibe eventually seeping in even if there was no intention of it happening at the forefront. I definitely don't feel a part of any clique here myself but I can't say that I haven't felt a bit a part of a clique on other boards (which perhaps was not for the best as I think I prefer more freedom for users personally - to the point it doesn't become trolling, abuse or spam), even protected somewhat by others even if perhaps criticism was valid and sometimes even argued in a thoughtful way.

Ash, as pushing my 8-10 year mark, I have to disagree... Things here are not really cliquey.  Or maybe I'm on the inside.  Could be you have been busy and lost the thread of the posts.  I knwo you have had some odd stuff happening. It happened to me after the baby was born and took a year to get the wheels back under me.  We still like you and I'm sure your e-mail with the REAL board links and your password to the VIP got misplaced.  Its the one Subject lined "SUPER V1A9ra" as a code word.  Hang in there man.
-Ed
 

Hmmm.  I think I've been here almost as long.   :buggedout:   It seems like there used to be a larger group of 'regulars' who posted in a friendly but fairly impersonal way.  Now there are definite friendships and affinities going on and more talk and joking on a personal level and it feels like a relatively tighter, smaller group as a whole.  Some members (myself included) tend to focus on certain topics - and our paths may not cross much at all as a consequence.  I know I have not seen many posts from you in a while: I would assume that is because you have been posting in areas where I don't tend to go as much.  There are boards where I rarely venture and my own reaction when I do take a peek is to feel like an outsider there - not at all a reflection of how anyone reacts to me.  Or at least that is how it seems from my perspective.

Ash, it is fairly distressing  that you would 'sense' a cliquishness developing here.  I am sure I am not the only one who feels that.

And different than it did two years ago.  I expect you've seen a lot of changes for as long as you've been around.  Under 3 years, I'm still a newbie.  Thanks again for the great Wonka gif.   :thumbup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ-uV72pQKI 
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/willyad5.gif) 

I don't know if there are cliques, but people do seem to divide up by interest.  Back in the old days with the Phorum software, there were no categories or different boards. Just a long list of posts.

I believe back when I was a moderator  it just said moderator under your screen name.  I never even noticed the slimes.  I think the board has a much larger active membership now and to tell the truth there have always been some folks here that post way more than others.

*ahem*

Hey Brother Doggett, I used to live on this board before we even had posting stats and karma points. 

WOW

You're a real trooper.  :smile:

the working class proletariat will rise up and replace the moderator class with themselves then the real tyranny wil begin in the name of equality

Allhallowsday, you should have The Chocolate Master or The Candy Maker under your name :thumbup:

You don't spend almost 10 years posting regularly on a board without really, really getting to know the ins and outs of every aspect of it.

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This got me thinking, according to my post log I first posted here in 2003.  I know I was a lurker here quite a while before I started posting, but I just know I was on here posting in at least 2002 if not sooner. 

But back to your original point Ash, I definitely think the board "feels" different then it did before.  I think people are just a bit more chummy and there are a lot more inside jokes going around.  I don't remember there being so many inside jokes before.  I guess it doesn't really bother me because I don't care why, for example, we tend to talk about some people's under pants.   :wink:

I am not saying it is worse or better, but I definitely can see why you think it seems a bit different.  This is still one of the greatest boards on the internet, so no worries!

Over the years I've noticed the board has changed slightly, but then again so have the people.  More brits for one.  :wink:  I think that's a natural progression of having new personalities with new tastes.

That being said, I've kept a ghostly presence here, and haven't been on as much or as regular as I once was, so I haven't noticed anything other than Doggett pretty much making it his personal mission to post on every single thread...  :thumbup:

I also never noticed the slime vs stars thing.  I guess I'm too busy looking at the pictures and having nightmares about Gene Wilder [thanks Allhallows...]

Hey, we've all gotta have a dream !  :wink:

It's a mighty good thing this forum seems to attract new blood. After all, if it didn't, we'll all probably turn into crotchedty old folks (not that I gots anything really against dem folks mind you) talking about the same darn thing over and over again and telling the same tired stories repeatedly (kindas like my father and his friends now that I think about it). New people bring new ideas to the table for us to talk about repeatedly  :wink: but eh some new inputs there uh? :teddyr: Yes good stuff bye'

Dude what have you got against Trekgeezer ?

Leave Trekgeezer alone, man !








:wink: :teddyr:

I'm having, fun, Trekgeezer. You're one of my faves.  :thumbup:

No slime envy here..

but since we're all making wishes - I vote for rainbow hearts instead of yellow stars.

who are you the lucky charms leprichaun

The only thing I feel that's changed since I arrived here in 2007 is that I've gained a family of people who genuinely give a damn about each other ~ witness what happened when RC's wife passed on: Ash and everyone rallied behind him. Just for getting the idea to assist Ronnie should make you feel Godzilla tall, Ash.  :thumbup:

Also, look at the amount of support and sympathy I received when my Dad left us last year ~ I still cannot look at the "My Dad's gone" thread I started without bawling: not at what happened but at the support, love  and good wishes.  :smile:

We are a unique family here (even down to the South African guy with an underpants fetish  :buggedout:) ~ let's keep it that way. Group hug?  :smile:

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, like I'm REALLY gonna hug a South African guy with an underpants fetish.

...

...

...

Never again.

I still miss you, my beloved Waldo, wherever you are.

::sniffle::

 :bouncegiggle: :teddyr:

Hang on: What do you mean by 'never again'?  :question: Are there other South Africans that I should know about?  :wink:

Just, as I mentioned, Waldo. But I can't seem to find him.

WHERE THE HECK IS WALDO?!?

Hi William, sorry I'm late for the meeting.
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj1/ASTERSYN/co/Cosplay/1236011782701.jpg)

Waldo! You South African, hug-lovin', underpants-fetishizin' S.O.B., where have you been?!? I gave you my heart... and... my Batman underoos!

By the way, Waldo, Trevor's been hitting on me. Beat him up!

And let me watch. Bow chicka wow wow, chicka violence-fetish.

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :teddyr:

It does bother me, because, as the owner and wearer of said underpants, my filthy undies are more famous than me.  :teddyr: :buggedout: