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Title: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 07, 2009, 08:22:01 AM
I know that there was another thread with with the same title, but it was old, and it was under the "bad movies" forum, so I thought that I'd start an other one here.
I've ordered the Assault on black reach starter set from the UK. I'm going to play orks. :teddyr:
Who else plays Warhammer on this site? Andrew, how are your tyranids? :teddyr:

Also, I need some help. Do I need Citadel foundation paints? Or can I use multiple coats of a darker color as an undercoat?
Can I substitute Orkhide shade with multiple coats of Dark angel's green?


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Andrew on November 07, 2009, 11:22:25 AM
My Tyranids are doing good, though I still haven't finished painting many of them - including the highly converted Carnifex whose nickname is Shoggoth:

(http://www.badmovies.org/wh40k/tyranids/shoggoth1.jpg)

(http://www.badmovies.org/wh40k/tyranids/shoggoth3.jpg)


Gamera is fully painted, and still a serious infantry destroyer:

(http://www.badmovies.org/wh40k/tyranids/gamera_painted_3.jpg)

I like the Citadel paints a lot and have good luck with them as long as I thin them a bit with water.  I like to use gray Model Master primer on my figures though. 

For Orks, I'd say you'd be great painting them any shade of green (or even other colors) as long as it's consistent within squads.  I like to paint my figures the same color as their primary, give them a wash with an ink, and then highlight from there.  The Tyranids are meant to look like a comic book army with strong contrasts.

There are quite a few good websites to check out people's armies and color schemes to get ideas.


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 07, 2009, 04:46:14 PM
Wow, Gamera looks really cool. Great job! :thumbup:


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 12, 2009, 11:54:24 AM
I've just got my Assault on black reach set!

Will update on my progress.(I mean painting.)


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: venomx on November 12, 2009, 12:21:21 PM
If there a website with a list of all those figures/characters? They look really cool. :thumbup:

I had the pc game years ago - Dawn Of War.


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 12, 2009, 12:44:45 PM
If there a website with a list of all those figures/characters? They look really cool. :thumbup:

I had the pc game years ago - Dawn Of War.

Well, the closest thing to that is this. I think:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landing.jsp?catId=cat1290027&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/landing.jsp?catId=cat1290027&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k)
Click to the Warhammer 40,000 armies section, and you'll findwhat you're looking for.
It isn't really a list, but every race/army is represented, and there's quite a lot of pictures of them. I hope that helped. :thumbup:


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 15, 2009, 04:18:04 AM
Got my assault on Black reach set a few days ago. :thumbup:
I'm painting my "training" ork. Will report back about my progress. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Andrew on November 15, 2009, 02:57:31 PM
If there a website with a list of all those figures/characters? They look really cool. :thumbup:

I had the pc game years ago - Dawn Of War.


Games Workshop normally puts out a big print catalog of their miniatures.  It's the size of a phonebook.   They do have a big selection of images online for all of the different armies.  Here's a link to the Tyranid (the army I play) HQ unit page:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1020010&rootCatGameStyle=

You can check out the other armies by using the navigation menu on the left.

There is also a painting board on 40K Online, which a lot of people use to post their painted figures.

http://www.40konline.com/community/index.php?board=19.0



Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 22, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
Still painting.. I need some brown paint. Also, some washes.
Andrew, do you have any tips for painting eyes? I can't get it right.


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Andrew on November 22, 2009, 02:48:33 PM
Still painting.. I need some brown paint. Also, some washes.
Andrew, do you have any tips for painting eyes? I can't get it right.

Hopefully what I do works for you.  I have no formal artist training.

Thin your paint with water and use a tiny brush that is cut down to just a few bristles (I use an x-acto to carefully remove all but a few) that are not very long (shorten them with the x-acto if needed).  Use the table for support under your hand and use both hands to steady yourself as you carefully paint them.  For small eyes it usually takes me two coverages with the thinned paint.  I paint it on, let it dry, then paint the second coat on.  Then just a tiny spot of black (or your choice of pupil color) for the eyes.

Thinning your paint with water takes a little trial and error to get it right.  It does make a world of difference when you have the consistency right.

Except for the dollop, you are not painting with the tip.  You are painting with the side of the bristles near the tip.


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 23, 2009, 08:35:52 AM
Still painting.. I need some brown paint. Also, some washes.
Andrew, do you have any tips for painting eyes? I can't get it right.

Hopefully what I do works for you.  I have no formal artist training.

Thin your paint with water and use a tiny brush that is cut down to just a few bristles (I use an x-acto to carefully remove all but a few) that are not very long (shorten them with the x-acto if needed).  Use the table for support under your hand and use both hands to steady yourself as you carefully paint them.  For small eyes it usually takes me two coverages with the thinned paint.  I paint it on, let it dry, then paint the second coat on.  Then just a tiny spot of black (or your choice of pupil color) for the eyes.

Thinning your paint with water takes a little trial and error to get it right.  It does make a world of difference when you have the consistency right.

Except for the dollop, you are not painting with the tip.  You are painting with the side of the bristles near the tip.
Thanks, I'll try it! :thumbup:


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 29, 2009, 03:53:19 AM
Just a quick question: How much am I supposed to thin the paint? If I thin it too much it'll be too runny, and I can't control it.
Oh, and also I suppose I don't have to thin washes, right?


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Andrew on November 29, 2009, 10:42:09 AM
I use an eyedropper to add small amounts of water and stir with a cheapo brush (the artificial ones work great) until it's the right consistency.  If you have not picked one up yes, get a painter's pallet from an art store.  I like the metal (aluminum) ones the best, since I can clean them vigorously if needed. 

You take some paint out of the bottle with a cheapo brush, add it to a spot on the pallet, then thin it to your needs.  If you have to walk away for a while, you can cover that depression on the pallet with a small piece of plastic wrap to cut off airflow to the paint and it will not dry out.  I've left paint in a pallet for days like that, took off the plastic wrap, stirred it with a cheapo brush, and been ready to go again.

I have thinned washes on occasion, but not normally.


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on November 29, 2009, 11:54:10 AM
Thanks again!
I'll post some pictures of my ork as soon as it's ready!


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on December 06, 2009, 04:12:46 AM
Well, my ork is finished. Sorry for not posting any pictures sooner, but I had a little problem with the camera.
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9002/p1010357o.jpg)
(http://img190.imageshack.us/i/p1010358z.jpg/)
I think the skin is too homogenic. It needs more highlighting.
What do you think?


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Andrew on January 04, 2010, 04:36:23 PM
I think the skin is too homogenic. It needs more highlighting.
What do you think?

I'm late getting back here to chat.  My apologies.

From the picture, it does appear that the coloring is a bit to much of the same in spots.  Have you tried a thinned ink wash?  I knew a guy who painted a huge ork army fast, because he would base them with a color, apply the ink washes, then be done with painting.  He'd apply the clearcoat spray right after the wash.  The final effect was pretty good.  I think it works better for darker colors, like greens or such.


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on January 07, 2010, 03:14:35 PM
I think the skin is too homogenic. It needs more highlighting.
What do you think?

I'm late getting back here to chat.  My apologies.

From the picture, it does appear that the coloring is a bit to much of the same in spots.  Have you tried a thinned ink wash?  I knew a guy who painted a huge ork army fast, because he would base them with a color, apply the ink washes, then be done with painting.  He'd apply the clearcoat spray right after the wash.  The final effect was pretty good.  I think it works better for darker colors, like greens or such.
No problem. Better late than never. :smile:

No, I haven't used an ink wash. Maybe I'll get a green ink.
By the way, painting an ork army takes a lot of time. I have a long way to go...


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Cthulhu on January 23, 2010, 07:41:55 AM
Hey, Andrew, I've heard that there are new tyranids coming out.
Have you got any of them?


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Andrew on January 24, 2010, 07:53:19 AM
Hey, Andrew, I've heard that there are new tyranids coming out.
Have you got any of them?

Hive guard, gargoyles, and the new trygon - sure did.  My army list is going to have to change some.  With the codex changes and the durability of vehicles in V5 compared to V4, I think that trygons are going to be my best vehicle killers.  However, I can tell you that hive guard are evil against light armor.


Title: Re: Warhammer 40k
Post by: Doggett on June 27, 2010, 11:25:46 AM
I used to play Warhammer and 40K.
I got into it around 10, when I got my first Space Marine squad. *sigh* Who didn't love the Blood Angels chapter ???

I used to collect Empire and Dwarfs for Fantasy and Orks for 40K. It got kinda pricy (I was never too good at painting, I did try though) so I gave up, but still play DOW. I also moved away from any GWs and I didn't have anyone to play tabletop Warhammer with.

I'm currently trying to master the Sisters of Battle on Soulstorm.  :smile:

Still tryin' to kill the forces of Chaos !  :wink: