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Title: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Mr. DS on November 09, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
So here we are...November (at least at the time of the initial post) and the holiday I can't stand is on the horizon already...Xmas.   Although its early, I figured if the stores can pimp their obnoxious singing Santas, tacky light sets and jingle bells then why couldn't I start it now?  

IOW, post your anti-Xmas sentiments here and lets help each other through the yuletide.  Roll the theme song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCFGstW7so8


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: indianasmith on November 09, 2009, 10:16:59 PM
Can't join this party, sorry.

Yes, I do get tired of the rampant commercialization and overhype.

But I am still in love with the whole idea of God coming into the world as a child to bring about man's redemption.  That part of Christmas - not the malls, the Santas, and the cheesy decorations - is what I cherish.

That being said, canned "elevator music" Christmas carols are the WORST.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: SkullBat308 on November 09, 2009, 10:21:37 PM
I hear you......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuNKf82UTgo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gm7lZVwnd8


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: meQal on November 09, 2009, 10:40:03 PM
A radio station where I live plays Christmas music during the Holidays. Normally they don't start until the Friday after Thanksgiving, but this year they have already started. I want to scream anytime I ride int he car with my wife cause she wants to listen to this station all the time.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Mr. DS on November 09, 2009, 10:46:18 PM
A radio station where I live plays Christmas music during the Holidays. Normally they don't start until the Friday after Thanksgiving, but this year they have already started. I want to scream anytime I ride int he car with my wife cause she wants to listen to this station all the time.
Oh dude...don't even get me started.  I was the leading factor of getting the radio banned in my workplace Nov 27 through Dec 25.  I don't need to hear White Christmas twice an hour by 16 different artists. 


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: meQal on November 09, 2009, 10:53:30 PM
I like this song a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTGlUMvbhSw



Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Saucerman on November 09, 2009, 11:00:59 PM
I like the idea of emphasizing a spirit of brotherhood among all humanity, not just in December but all year long.  I don't like the overwhelming commercialization.  I don't like in-your-face types of both Pro- and Anti-Christmas camps.  Let everyone celebrate, or decline to celebrate, in their own way. 

That being said, any hypothetical children I bring into the world will be raised on stories of Krampus/Knecht Ruprecht alongside Santa Claus. 


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: SkullBat308 on November 09, 2009, 11:12:39 PM
I like the idea of emphasizing a spirit of brotherhood among all humanity, not just in December but all year long.  I don't like the overwhelming commercialization.  I don't like in-your-face types of both Pro- and Anti-Christmas camps.  Let everyone celebrate, or decline to celebrate, in their own way. 


Word, but I find Christmas depressing. :bluesad:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: darthchicken on November 09, 2009, 11:13:50 PM
Actually, my friends and I were just in Target complaining about how they were playing Christmas jingles... Yes I hate what Christmas has become. I have no problem with people who celebrate it as the birth of Christ, but the commercialism really bugs me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbTULjLtKP4
NSFW


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Ash on November 09, 2009, 11:55:52 PM
NSFW!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax1OEaGjMAM

And here's a really gory one:

Also NSFW!
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/8695



Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on November 10, 2009, 02:22:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzf8dJjqHys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksOCE5S_Bec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41bbtdqtRhs


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: hellbilly on November 10, 2009, 05:28:58 AM
Can't join either. I'm a Xmas geek and love the holidays. Eggnog and cookies season can't come soon enough  :teddyr:
I like to cook and its always fun for me to prepare the yummys for the family over the holidays. Good times  :smile:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Trevor on November 10, 2009, 07:28:48 AM
What hellbilly said ~ I like to see children's smiling faces at Christmas. The cookies and eggnog part of it reminds me of something our beloved Gunny wrote a few years back:

Quote
I think that several of the regulars are already indulging in eggnog and sugar cookie binge-eating.  Plus, it is rather obvious that "some" (cough - Scott and Menard - cough) decided to drink a full pot of coffee this morning and I do not mean decaf.

 :teddyr: :teddyr:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Jack on November 10, 2009, 07:37:35 AM
Sorry, can't join either.   :twirl:  I love Christmas, it brings back a ton of happy childhood memories and makes me feel like a little kid again.  I love everything from the snow to picking out a Christmas tree;  wrapping presents and watching them slowly accumulate under the tree;  seeing our kids' faces when they open their presents on Christmas eve;  watching the cat tear into the pile of discarded wrapping paper;  baking Christmas cookies, Christmas music at the mall, shopping with a million other people, egg nog, watching Rudolph, Frosty, the Little Drummer Boy, hell I even enjoy the "very special" Christmas episodes of all the TV shows and the Christmas commercials.

Love it all  :teddyr:  :teddyr: :teddyr:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Mr. DS on November 10, 2009, 07:43:53 AM
All you silly non-joiners need to start your own damn pro-Xmas thread.   :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: 3mnkids on November 10, 2009, 08:27:57 AM
one of my favorite short films..  Rnoovb21nVQ

Part 2

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I thought this was going to be one of those xmas wars threads. ya know the ones, people getting irate that stores say happy holidays instead of merry xmas..  :lookingup:  I like this much better


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: meQal on November 10, 2009, 03:52:12 PM
I admit I dislike a lot of what people have came to expect at Christmas.
Spending time with family. Except for my wife and kids, I could care less to spend time at all with my family because most of them are annoying jerks. Why make nice with a bunch of people who will go out of their way to screw you over in a heartbeat for their own amusement when I can avoid the emotional stress by not seeing them at all.
Then there is the cooking. I don't mind cooking at times but why should I stress myself out to cook a huge meal that I end up either freezing most of the leftover or tossing them out.
There there is gift giving. This is a serious mess. First there is always one toy every year that results in the most sane of people turning into insane barbarians to get. I don't think a child not getting the "hot" toy of the year is going to harm them. Nor is it worth a trip to the hospital and/or a police record.
Also the line, "it's better to give than receive", I suggest you you tell that to someone who found out they just got VD from someone. See how happy they seem about getting that "gift".
I have no happy childhood memories of Christmas, all I have are ones of pain and disappointment. All this holiday does is bring those memories back to me.
I think the main thing however I dislike the most about it is all the stress that some people push onto others to live up to what they consider traditions with Christmas. If you want to be all cheerful and giddy about it, that's great, just don't expect me to get just as excited. Don't try to tell me I don't need to be like that or act as if something is wrong with me cause I am not excited. Don't try to "cheer" me up. Just leave me in peace. I would be a lot happier that way and far less likely to yell at you.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Psycho Circus on November 10, 2009, 04:03:13 PM
I hate xmas, as it means nothing to me. I'm not religious and I think that all the commercial crap is a joke. Xmas is a business to both the church and to big companies these days. I also cannot stand eating the same damn meal every year, watching the same things on TV every damn year and spending time with family that I'd rather blow away with a shotgun!


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: InformationGeek on November 10, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
I'm not really Anti-Christmas, I am more Anti-Commercialism of Christmas.  I think Mystery Science Theater summed it up best when they said in Santa Claus Conqueors the Martins that Christmas is a Christian holiday ruined by commercialism.

I also, I hate it when stores and companies seem to forget that we have a holiday in between Halloween and Christmas, and that is Thanksgiving (At least for us Americans).  what really ticked me off was that the day before Halloween, I went to the mal and I was passing through the JCPenny to get to a book store and I saw that they set up all their Christmas displays and products!  People, please!  At least wait until Halloween is over!

Outside of that, I am all for the happy holiday.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: HappyGilmore on November 10, 2009, 07:34:20 PM
"Christmas at Ground Zero"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGdrMOttV_s

Very cheery music highlights the dark lyrics dealing with how there's gonna be a Nuclear Holocaust between the Russians and Americans, so you better "duck and cover with your yuletide lover underneath the mistletoe!"  Written as a response to his record company, Weird Al was told he HAD to write a Christmas themed song.  Not being one who likes being told what to do, he wrote a macabre song about the Cold War. :teddyr:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on November 10, 2009, 08:58:05 PM
I love Christmas, too, but at the same time I hate it.  All the shopping and stress and trying to be to so many different houses in one day.  Ugh.  :hatred:  Don't get me started.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: JaseSF on November 10, 2009, 09:15:35 PM
Well I do love Christmas but what I loathe, what I hate is people starting the whole thing up way too damn flaming early. I'm sorry but I don't feel anything Christmas should be on display before December and typically I prefer mid-December at that. They were actually playing Christmas carols at one store here on HALLOWEEN!! For frig sakes, leave Halloween alone. Christmas has no place on Halloween and shouldn't be replacing it...that's way too flipping early to be playing that sh*te. Leave Christmas to Christma..it p**ses me off to see Christmas decorations up already and on and on...why can't they leave Christmas to its own good time? My parents didn't even put up the tree in their day before Christmas EVE for crying out loud.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Allhallowsday on November 11, 2009, 01:05:54 PM
http://www.badmovies.org/forum/index.php/topic,116783.0.html  (http://www.badmovies.org/forum/index.php/topic,116783.0.html)

I can't stand Christmas.  Its not just a dislike for yours truly, its rather a big hatred. Why;
Top Ten Things I Hate About Christmas
1.) Radio stations that feel a need to play 24 hours of Christmas music starting two weeks before Thanksgiving.  Domenic The Donkey should pet put down by the way.  2.) People who stare at me in aghast when I tell them I don't like the holiday.
3.) The Hanukah song. Its not really that funny and neither is the Turkey Song after 100 listens. 
4.) Its a bit of a money pit. 5.) The overabundance of decorations people throw up on their lawn. 
6.) The fact I can't get a good parking place when I'm running into Wal-mart for something like paper towels. 
7.) Contrary to Christmas specials and songs snow is not magical, its a driving hazard.  8.) Receiving Christmas cards from people who I either; A.) Haven't talked to in years or B.) Think I'll know their kids on photo gift cards.
9.) Arguments on whether to say "Happy Holidays" or "Merry Christmas". 
and most of all... 10.) As Blink 182 said once, being nice to the people you can't stand all year.  If you're a humbug like I am, feel free to join in.

I've found the holiday enjoyable the more one strips away the trappings, which by young adulthood feel like obligations.  Now, I spend time with people I enjoy, only buy for people I love (and all year long, so by Christmas, I am practically Santa Claus...) and expect nothing... and I agree with The DARKSIDER, snow is a driving hazard, at best it can be damned beautiful, but having lived my whole life in New Jersey (hardly CANADA) but snowy nonetheless, I have to say I loathe the stuff, and like it only on picture postcards!  Give me palmtrees swaying and colored lights on a sailboat mast. 
It gives one a kind of power to hate Christmas.   :smile:  You are certainly committed.  Or should I say "should be committed"?   :wink:  :thumbup:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Mr. DS on November 11, 2009, 04:45:04 PM
Allhallows my eccentric friend, to answer you question a little bit of both.  I'm actually think of forming a coalition, the NCAC.  "National Coalition Against Christmas". 


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: meQal on November 11, 2009, 05:17:35 PM
I have done Christmas while committed. It just makes one hate the holiday even more. So if you want to make people who dislike Christmas even sort of like it, you don't want to go the committal route.  :tongueout:


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Allhallowsday on November 11, 2009, 11:39:08 PM
I have done Christmas while committed. It just makes one hate the holiday even more. So if you want to make people who dislike Christmas even sort of like it, you don't want to go the committal route.  :tongueout:
:bouncegiggle:  :bluesad:   :bouncegiggle: 

Allhallows my eccentric friend, to answer you question a little bit of both.  I'm actually think of forming a coalition, the NCAC.  "National Coalition Against Christmas". 
You win Darksider, I kind of dislike it too (a friend and I have had our own anti-Christmas theme for at least 10 years... "Christmas is over, tra la la la la, Christmas is over, tra la la la la...) but the pagan in me is stirred by the time of year, and there are aspects of the nativity that are marvelous if incredible.  It's an important time of year - the end - in our culture, and for centuries.  My heritage of course is "Allhallowsday," but I consider Loki (Lochi) and Baldr (Balthar) and my own Celtic blood.  Don't forget them pomegranate seeds!  I love all of the changing seasons, and if God is in our world, it's through nature.   :smile:   You're young yet, Darksider, but you will be astonished with the increasing speed of the seasons as you accumulate years. 


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Allhallowsday on November 13, 2009, 12:43:03 AM
Look what I found, lads and lasses, this 1971 version is sometimes referred to as lost, and I'd looked for it long enough... and that is ALASTAIR SIM voicing Scrooge: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hA5T1G7rxg 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwii8AMfgkA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXsALUC4HEU&feature=related 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtsV8QZXS7Q&feature=related


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Mr. DS on November 28, 2009, 11:34:20 AM
Is there anything more repulsive than the jewlery store ads this time of year?  Who actually acts like that?


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Criswell on November 28, 2009, 03:37:15 PM
Is there anything more repulsive than the jewlery store ads this time of year?  Who actually acts like that?

ZOMG!!!!11!! HE Went to jarreds!!!!!


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Jack on November 29, 2009, 08:45:03 AM
Is there anything more repulsive than the jewlery store ads this time of year?  Who actually acts like that?

You must spend hundreds of dollars to show her you love her - the power of Jarred's compels you!


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Javakoala on November 29, 2009, 01:35:36 PM
I agree with loathing the expectation that you should celebrate the holiday like everyone else. Working in an office environment has already led to a number of problems. The senior rep in our group does monthly team building meetings. For November's meeting: decorating our area for Christmas. "Does anyone have a problem with this?" I raise my hand. "Oh, just one? Okay, well, we can hang tinsel and streamers and..."

And even people who say they understand you don't care to celebrate the holiday will ask, "So do you have your tree up?" I don't want a tree, I don't have room for one even if I did and why would I mess with one when I will be the ONLY PERSON TO SEE IT?!? "You mean, you aren't going to put up a tree?"

When they ask if I intend to do ANYTHING for the holidays, I tell them I usually watch "Christmas Evil" every year. They give me a disgusted look like I flung poo at them. If I think I might not care for an answer to a question (and it isn't really any of my damn business any way), I DON'T ASK!!!

I don't hate Christmas, although I don't buy into the cobbled together myth it is built around, but I just don't celebrate it. Can't people understand that? Really, is it that hard?


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Mr. DS on November 29, 2009, 02:35:25 PM
Java, you've pretty much mirrored many of my sentiments. If one chooses not to celebrate or enjoy Christmas it is their business and vice versa.  If it wasn't for my wife and kids there would be NO tree in my house as well.   Regardless of the tradition and it's symbolism, I think putting a tree in a house for a month is just a silly idea.  

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a total Scrooge if you can believe it.  One of my all time favorite movies is A Christmas Story and I love the old favs like Rudolph.  I also blindly hum along to many Christmas favorites when I hear them in the supermarket.  The food and parties are always wonderful.  However for me, its all overblown and overratted.  There is no rule saying you have to like this holiday nor is there a rule about liking it.  I love Halloween but would never question a person's judgement if they chose not to dress up or decorate their house.  


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: venomx on November 29, 2009, 07:17:26 PM
"Anti-Christmas Thread" Hmmm ...

(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/713/evilsanta.png) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/evilsanta.png/)

Anyone up for some coal in their stockings?


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Saucerman on November 29, 2009, 11:27:40 PM
My big Christmas celebrations are to watch Santa Claus Conquers the Martians and tell my youngest cousins about Knecht Ruprecht AKA Krampus, Santa's special helper, who travels the world beating the stuffing out of bad children, and casting the baddest of them into the fiery maw of hell.  He also harasses nubile young women with his infinitely long tongue. 

The Germans have the best holiday traditions. 


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: AndyC on November 30, 2009, 12:31:51 AM
Not much I can add that hasn't already been said.

I loved Christmas as a kid, and even as a teenager and a young man, and all of the things I like about it are still there, but there is a whole heap of stress piled on top.

I liked it when my Christmas basically involved watching cartoon specials and old movies for a couple of weeks, having time off to relax, and a fairly simple and predictable family tradition. I could count on a nice pizza dinner Christmas Eve, a brief lessons-and-carols service at church and some celebrating with friends of the family who always put on a nice Christmas Eve party. It would be presents in the morning, turkey dinner at noon, stockings immediately after, and the rest of the day to play with the new toys, sit and veg in front of the TV, or in later years, relax for hours with a good book and a glass of whiskey. Relatives would come to our house on Boxing Day, and we'd have lasagna, probably the most efficient way to serve a satisfying meal to a large group. Simple.

Working at a newspaper taught me that Christmas means a hell of a lot of work to do, whether you're designing the ads for every business that just wants to say hello once a year or covering the pile of events happening in the community. And when you get that busy, it gets harder to do your shopping. And when you do get out shopping, there's nowhere to park and the stores are packed with people. If I had to list the things I find most stressful, I'd include having a lot of work ahead of me, leaving some time-sensitive task (such as Christmas shopping) until the last minute, making my way through a crowd and driving in heavy traffic. Christmas offers all of these in abundance.

And then there is the expectation that I will get out to see every single relative, regardless of how far apart they live or how varied their schedules are. For me, Christmas was a good day to barricade yourself in the house with snacks, games and movies. These days, it usually involves a lengthy road trip, which is another whole variety of stress.

And my wife and I have very different experiences with Christmas.  I grew up in a household that valued efficiency in our holidays, and we kept them as streamlined as possible. For us, the crowning achievement was when Uncle Bev figured out that he could put casters on his artificial tree and keep it, fully decorated, in a basement closet. Just wheel it out, whip off the plastic cover and plug it in. Then cover it and shove it back in the closet after the 25th. For many years, Thanksgiving and Easter involved taking Grandma out to a Chinese buffet. And my dad's preferred method of buying gifts for the grown kids and the grandkids is to wire funds to our bank accounts and let us figure it out. I can never tell if my wife finds these things amusing or appalling, but suffice to say, she's more traditional.

Actually, I had my most relaxing Christmasses in years during the late 90s, when I volunteered to work Christmas Day and got to forgo the family obligations. I covered one free turkey dinner at a local restaurant, ate one free turkey dinner at a local restaurant, and spent the rest of the day watching b-grade horror and action movies and sipping at a gift basket of imported beers someone sent me.

I will admit, having kids does seem to put the magic back into Christmas. I just wish I could recapture some of the efficiency.

On the plus side, I am out of newspapers for good. But I now own a store, so I don't know if the Christmas workload with change. At least now more work equals more money.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: D-Man on November 30, 2009, 09:18:15 AM
I saw that Fox News has already started off their "War on Christmas" rubbish, with this debate over a nativity scene in the WA state Capitol.  The religious extremists in this country don't seem to realize that this only leads to even more extreme behavior from the Atheists, and when the Atheists do all these provocative displays against religion, it just leads to the religious extremists getting even more ticked off.  It's action and reaction.

I always thought I was a Christian, but I guess I'm not anymore, since I don't believe in the complete infallibility of the bible, the idea of humans and dinosaurs co-existing, or the idea that homosexuals and non-Christians are automatically going to hell.  At the same time, though, I can't see myself as an Atheist, because I can't simply just think that this world is all we get, or that there is nothing more to the universe than what science can tell us.  I don't have a place on either side. 

My point is, Christmas should simply be Christmas, whatever Christmas may mean to one person or another.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: AndyC on November 30, 2009, 10:43:35 AM
I always thought I was a Christian, but I guess I'm not anymore, since I don't believe in the complete infallibility of the bible, the idea of humans and dinosaurs co-existing, or the idea that homosexuals and non-Christians are automatically going to hell.  At the same time, though, I can't see myself as an Atheist, because I can't simply just think that this world is all we get, or that there is nothing more to the universe than what science can tell us.  I don't have a place on either side. 

I'd say a significant portion, possibly even a majority of Christians believe exactly what you do. It's just that the extremists don't think we count, and they're louder.

Sounds like you identify culturally as Christian, but your personal beliefs are more agnostic deist - God is definitely there, but humans simply don't have the capacity to understand him/it as well as they'd like to think.

Extreme Christians and extreme atheists are actually more alike than either would admit. In many cases, the extreme atheists and extreme Christians come from a similarly strict religious background. Both believe that if the Bible isn't 100 percent factual, then it's a lie. The only difference is whether, in the face of cultural pressures and scientific evidence, they decide it's a lie or cling to the idea that it's 100 percent factual.

The third option is to see religion as a living, growing thing, and believe that greater knowledge can lead us to greater truth. As Einstein said, "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

Anyway, getting back on topic, Christmas is really stressful, with all of the deadlines and obligations attached to what is supposed to be fun.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: InformationGeek on November 30, 2009, 04:23:46 PM
I said previously that I like Christmas, but I also said that I didn't like it when people celebrate it too early, like before Halloween or Thanksgiving.  Here's a prime example of that.  I was at the Hard Rock Cafe on Thanksgiving during my vacation to Kest West.  All of a sudden, a music video for a Christmas song started playing and groaned.  I mean come on!  It's Thanksgiving!  Start playing it afterwards.  One of the employees told us that the company promised that they would start playing Christmas songs after Thanksgiving and said how frustrated he was with this.

Song was find and all, but everytime the sing said Merry Christmas, I said outloud Merry Thanksgiving.  It got a couple of laughs.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Mr. DS on November 30, 2009, 05:56:41 PM
Well starting tommorw it should fly by wicked fast.  We are currently planning our holiday buffett and its less than two weeks away.  Wow. 


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Criswell on November 30, 2009, 06:17:41 PM
We already have our tree up. If it was my house it probably would not be up till the 23.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Silverlady on November 30, 2009, 06:41:34 PM


  Christmas is just not the same anymore.  When I was a kid I loved it.   When I became a young mother of two young children, it became more complicated with more responsibility, but I still loved it.  But as my kids got older Christmas began costing a hell of a lot more and I began to feel like I was just going "through the motions."

 Now my kids are grown with kids of their own. I love my grandkids (got 5 all under 9) but I actually feel very "blue" around the holidays. A lot of years have passed ... and also a lot of family members too.  I don't hate Christmas ... I just REMEMBER a simpler time.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on November 30, 2009, 06:54:22 PM
I can't join this party either.  I like the adjunct portions of christmas and refuse to buy into the commercial aspects, and a lot of the religious ones.  I will not go to Jerrod, or stand in line for the latest toy for my child and join a mob scene, or even go to church or think on the Nativity.  Nor Do I think its OK, to put of christmas crap on October 15th in the shops. 

I will spend speical time with those relatives I care about, teach my child some traditions which I think are important,  make a special meal, and enjoy myself. 

Its a big old buffet, pick what you want and leave the rest...even if what you want to do is bemoan that its not what you want. 
-Ed


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: the ghoul on December 05, 2009, 02:31:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DElNx2scU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5BQBKClJeY


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: Nukie 2 on December 05, 2009, 04:49:37 PM
I have pretty awful memories of Christmas as a child, I don't feel the need to get into them.
I really like Thanksgiving and Halloween more than this holiday, because Thanksgiving all you do is eat food with family and end up with leftovers. Halloween you drink beer and watch movies with friends whilst handing out candy to youngsters. There's never so much hype around these two holidays.
The gift-giving aspect of Christmas sucks, I never want anything that I can't get myself ya know. But if someone get you a gift be damned if you can't match theirs. When all is said and done Christmas is like Thanksgiving but with gifts, we really don't need the two month long hype.


Title: Re: The Annual Anti-Christmas Thread
Post by: the ghoul on December 06, 2009, 11:37:17 PM
I love the Grinch (except for the part at the end when he sells out). :smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPBS7dVrE1U