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Title: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Allhallowsday on November 25, 2009, 04:14:29 PM CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like.
Heard some RACHMANINOFF today... no wonder I have none in my collection (though I had quite a bit - maybe still do - on vinyl... which I had inherited) To me, accusing DEBUSSY of being syrupy, which I've read more than once, is ignorant. On the other hand, RACHMANINOFF...? Treacly!! Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like. Post by: AndyC on November 25, 2009, 04:59:34 PM That's a tough one for anybody who is not a real fan of classical music. I like classical music, but not enough to go out of my way to listen to it, so the only pieces that stick with me, or even register with me are ones I like. Anything I don't like just kind of goes in one ear and out the other.
With classical, I either like it or I'm indifferent to it. Probably because we aren't forced to listen to as much classical as say, pop. A bad pop song, played continuously everywhere will burrow into my brain, grab hold and start headbutting the pain centre. That's why I stopped listening to commercial radio. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Allhallowsday on November 25, 2009, 09:28:08 PM AndyC's thoughtful comments made me reconsider my topic. I like many types of music, including many that'd be classified as Classical...
MAURICE RAVEL CLAUDE DEBUSSY CHARLES MARIE WIDOR CESAR FRANCK BEETHOVEN MOZART SCHUBERT LISZT MAHLER... Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: retrorussell on November 25, 2009, 10:30:11 PM I love a lot of classical music. One of my faves is Powerhouse (can't remember the composer). It was on Looney Tunes a lot, as were a lot of classic classicals. I also really like the Sabre Dance, and practically everything Tchaikovsky did.
Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: AndyC on November 25, 2009, 11:20:24 PM If I go by the number of CDs I actually own, I suppose John Williams would be at the top of my list of classical composers I like. But I also find Vivaldi quite nice, and Bach as well.
Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: the ghoul on November 26, 2009, 11:04:16 AM When I'm in the mood for classical, I like harpsichord music, Mozart, and Bach's organ works.
I'm not familiar enough with the classical genre to come up with anything specific that I don't like, but a lot of it doesn't move me one way or the other. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Rev. Powell on November 26, 2009, 07:59:36 PM I listen to a ton of classical (more than any other kind of music). But, like Andy, because I can pick and choose, I tend not to listen to anything I don't like.
That said, here's some stuff I don't really like: *Post-baroque pre-romantic chamber music, which is the kind of thing lot of people think of when they think "classical." The kind of pretty background music you think of as playing when you think of aristocratic fops sitting around in powedered wigs eating grapes. That includes a lot of Mozart, too. *Opera. I can't stand the screeching. It sounds very affected and not at all like real human emotion. *Atonal music of the early 20th Century: Schoenberg, Berg, Webern. That abrasive, discordant music, especially made between the two world wars that seems to evoke anxiety more than anything else. It's the kind of thing that sounds cool when you first hear it but rewards you less and less the more you listen to it. Melody, please. I can't find anything to really represent what I'm talking about, because very few people like this kind of music and they don't upload it to youtube. Here's an example of the style I mean that's really not too terrible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cgDmMhh0E *John Cage's prank music. This is what I come closest to actually hating. But why not focus on whate we love instead? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ljII_bRQQk Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Rev. Powell on November 26, 2009, 08:03:41 PM One of my faves is Powerhouse (can't remember the composer). Raymond Scott. Great song, great composer. He could be considered classical, but he's sort of in his own league. He's often lumped in with jazz because he composed music to be played for a jazz quintette. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: AndyC on November 26, 2009, 08:17:31 PM *Opera. I can't stand the screeching. It sounds very affected and not at all like real human emotion. *Atonal music of the early 20th Century: Schoenberg, Berg, Webern. That abrasive, discordant music, especially made between the two world wars that seems to evoke anxiety more than anything else. It's the kind of thing that sounds cool when you first hear it but rewards you less and less the more you listen to it. Melody, please. Ah, those are two I definitely don't like. Quote *Post-baroque pre-romantic chamber music, which is the kind of thing lot of people think of when they think "classical." The kind of pretty background music you think of as playing when you think of aristocratic fops sitting around in powedered wigs eating grapes. That I don't mind. At best, it's kind of soothing, and at worst, it just kind of fades into the backround noise. I suppose if I had to sit through a concert of it, I'd probably be familiarizing myself with the details of the ceiling before long. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Allhallowsday on November 26, 2009, 08:19:56 PM ... here's some stuff I don't really like: Y'mean like Transfigured Night...? *Atonal music of the early 20th Century: Schoenberg, Berg, Webern. That abrasive, discordant music, especially made between the two world wars that seems to evoke anxiety more than anything else. It's the kind of thing that sounds cool when you first hear it but rewards you less and less the more you listen to it. Melody, please. I can't find anything to really represent what I'm talking about, because very few people like this kind of music and they don't upload it to youtube. Here's an example of the style I mean that's really not too terrible: ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqxKWSCGFk&feature=PlayList&p=184F70DDB3A81F2A&index=0&playnext=1 Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: venomx on November 26, 2009, 08:24:03 PM I like BeefOven ... dude totally rocks!
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4418/billandted1.jpg) (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/billandted1.jpg/) Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Rev. Powell on November 26, 2009, 09:23:54 PM ... here's some stuff I don't really like: Y'mean like Transfigured Night...? *Atonal music of the early 20th Century: Schoenberg, Berg, Webern. That abrasive, discordant music, especially made between the two world wars that seems to evoke anxiety more than anything else. It's the kind of thing that sounds cool when you first hear it but rewards you less and less the more you listen to it. Melody, please. I can't find anything to really represent what I'm talking about, because very few people like this kind of music and they don't upload it to youtube. Here's an example of the style I mean that's really not too terrible: ... [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqxKWSCGFk&feature=PlayList&p=184F70DDB3A81F2A&index=0&playnext=1[/url] You, sir, have a keen ear for what I don't like. :wink: But that's actually not to bad either. The stuff that shows up on youtube tends to be the highlights of that style. There's a lot of lesser stuff that I can't tolerate at all. Don't remember the names of the composers or pieces, because I tend to turn it off immediately if it comes on. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: BoyScoutKevin on December 05, 2009, 12:27:04 PM Ah, classical music. One of my favorite forms of music. To which I was introduced by two people. One was my mother, which is no surprise, and the other was Walt Disney, which may be something of a surprise, but no one has ever been better at intergrating music, especially classical music, into his films, short subjects, and animated cartoons. One of my favorite forms of music, because no matter how many times I have heard it, it still leaves a chill running up and down my spine. And thus, here are the composers and their music that leave that chill. Arranged by composer in order of which I came to appreciate them and their music.
Offenbach: The Can Can Strauss, jr.: The Blue Danube Waltz Tales from the Vienna Woods Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 Rossini: The William Tell Overture The Barber of Seville Overture The Thieving Magpie Suppe: The Light Cavalry Overture The Poet and Peasant Overture R. Strauss: Thus Spoke Zaranthusa Ponichelli: Dance of the Hours Tchaikovsky: The Nutcracker Suite The 1812 Overture The Sleeping Beauty Suite The Romeo and Juliet Overture Handel: The Hallelujah Chorus Arrival of the Queen of Sheba Water Music Bizet: Carmen Fantasy for Orchestra Donizetti: Sextet from Lucia de Lammermoor Wagner: March from Tannahauser Ride of the Valkyries Relude to Act 3 of Lohengrin Bridal March from Lohengrin Waldteufel: The Skater's Waltz Verdi: Anvil Chorus from Il Trovatore Le Donna i Mobile from Rigoletto Brindisi from La Travatia Strauss, sr.: Radetsky March Mendelssohn: Wedding March Symphony No. 4, "Italian" Schubert: Military March Sibelius: Karelia Suite Mozart: Eine Kleine Nachtmusik The Marriage of Figaro Overture Beethoven: Symphony No. 5 Symphony No. 9 Fur Elise J. Clarke: Trumpet Voluntary Dvorak: Humoresque Brahms: Lullaby Hungarian Dances Chopin: Polonaise in A Minute Waltz Bach: Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 Toccata Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue Saint-Saens: Carnival of Animals, Finale Stravinsky: The Firebird Suite Grieg: Hall of the Mountain King Mussogrsky: Night on Bald Mountain I'm sure some of the titles have been incorrectly stated, and for that I apologize, but I think most of today's composers wish that they could compose half as well as the composers of old. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Rev. Powell on December 11, 2009, 08:05:13 PM Ah, classical music. One of my favorite forms of music. To which I was introduced by two people. One was my mother, which is no surprise, and the other was Walt Disney, which may be something of a surprise, but no one has ever been better at intergrating music, especially classical music, into his films, short subjects, and animated cartoons. Don't forget the Warner Brothers cartoons, I'm sure that's where a lot of us absorbed classical music melodies without even knowing it. if I'm not mistaken, the "Silly Symphonies" series was all scored to classical music. "Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit..." Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Allhallowsday on December 11, 2009, 10:43:18 PM Ah, classical music. One of my favorite forms of music. To which I was introduced by two people. One was my mother, which is no surprise, and the other was Walt Disney, which may be something of a surprise, but no one has ever been better at intergrating music, especially classical music, into his films, short subjects, and animated cartoons. Don't forget the Warner Brothers cartoons, I'm sure that's where a lot of us absorbed classical music melodies without even knowing it. if I'm not mistaken, the "Silly Symphonies" series was all scored to classical music. "Kill the wabbit, kill the wabbit..." Silly Symphonies often used popular, jazzy music. Amazingly, several of these are available on Youtube, check them out if you love great hand drawn animation, lush color, and fan-f-n-tastic music; to describe these cartoons as superb is an understatement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUTPg_wkpa4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-tgUZlLrPY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRB2YlQOSBI "...Hail, all, hail, all... Hail...!" Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: BoyScoutKevin on December 13, 2009, 04:36:34 PM We have talked about Disney's Silly Symphonies." We have talked about the Warner Brothers characters. What we have not talked about is MGM's Tom and Jerry, Nelvana's Care Bears, and Universal's Woody Woodpecker and Andy Panda. All of whom have appeared in animated short subjects that made use of classical music.
And that is not all. Using more anonymous characters, the following pieces of classical music were used in animated short subjects. Often without the use of dialogue, letting the music speak for itself. Brahms' "Hungarian Dances" Liszt's "Hungarian Rhapsody no. 2" For this one I do have a title. It is called "Rhapsody in Rivets." Strauss, jr.'s "The Blue Danube" and "Tales from the Vienna Woods." Tchaikovsky's "The Nutcracker Suite." This is the only other one for which I remember the title. It was called "A Holiday for Shoestrings." Waldteufel's "The Skater's Waltz" And while not strictly classical, one of my favorite animated short subjects that makes use of music to tell a story is "Mama Don't Allow," which features the Old Woman in the Shoe and all her children. There is alot out there, using classical music and other music. And much of it is mighty fine. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Allhallowsday on December 15, 2009, 01:57:56 PM Here's a Silly Symphony that uses Classical themes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ny4CUXCtQ&feature=related Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Pilgermann on December 15, 2009, 04:16:45 PM Not from the Classical era but under the general category, I love Charles Ives. He may come across as a difficult and overly experimental composer, but his music is often playful or full of mystery and deep emotion. Even his stranger more dischordant work doesn't really come across as crazy to my ears, and it lacks the anxiety that Rev. Powell mentioned about many early 20th century atonal works.
Here's one of his quarter-tone pieces: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs The lovely 3rd movement from his fourth symphony: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImfmwXUQ6M A recording of Ives himself playing The Alcotts from his Concord Sonata: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXHjeSamzno I think most of the stuff I own on CD is from the 20th Century, stuff like Mahler and Shostakovich. For some reason I have like, 3 recordings of Rautavaara's Angel of Light. I'm ashamed to not even own any Mozart of Beethoven! I have difficulty getting into opera. I only own one actual opera recording and it's of Messiaen's St. Francois d'Assise. I've had it for a number of years but have only listened to the 1st of the 4 discs in the set. Title: Re: CLASSICAL MUSIC you definitely DON'T like... or that YOU DO LIKE Post by: Allhallowsday on December 16, 2009, 09:08:21 PM Not from the Classical era but under the general category, I love Charles Ives. He may come across as a difficult and overly experimental composer, but his music is often playful or full of mystery and deep emotion. Even his stranger more dischordant work doesn't really come across as crazy to my ears, and it lacks the anxiety that Rev. Powell mentioned about many early 20th century atonal works. Here's one of his quarter-tone pieces: CHARLES IVES explored areas of music important in its mapping. His music always educates, and renders, which I consider good things. :thumbup: I have a bit of IVES on cd compilations, but had quite a few LPs all inherited from a huge "classical" music collection. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU85bUyDPWs[/url] The lovely 3rd movement from his fourth symphony: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImfmwXUQ6M[/url] A recording of Ives himself playing The Alcotts from his Concord Sonata: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXHjeSamzno...[/url] |