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Title: Against the grain
Post by: hellbilly on December 28, 2009, 02:01:16 AM
Share some of your unpopular opinions.

Twilight - I'm not a twi-hard, never read the books. I thought the first movie was well made and entertaining.

Lady GaGa - The entire world is drooling, I think she is the most boring and unoriginal artist ever. And I don't care how talented she is. When people tell me how good and better she is than what the current pop scene has to offer its like they are telling me that the sky is green. I just don't see it. Lady GaGa stands for and represents everything I don't like about today's music.

The Onion - Overrated in my opinion.

Mystery Science Theater 3000 - I was never really a fan even though I love to make fun of movies myself. I'm aware that they are the holy grail of mockery but I thought Elvira was funnier.

AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long - is their best song  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on December 28, 2009, 02:08:15 AM
Lady GaGa - The entire world is drooling, I think she is the most boring and unoriginal artist ever. And I don't care how talented she is.

I have to agree with that one.  For me:

Will Ferrell - I can't stand his movies.  He was OK in the Producers remake, but other than that :thumbdown:  Step Brothers was terrible.

Gangsta Rap Music - Can't stand it.  I honestly never did like rap (though K'Naan is cool) but the "gangsta" type is terrible.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: flackbait on December 28, 2009, 04:45:23 AM
New Country: I was never a major fan of the old stuff I(didn't like it or hate it), but I can't stand the stuff. At least guys like Jerry Reed had talent and made good songs, can't say the same for the modern stuff.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Cthulhu on December 28, 2009, 05:11:05 AM
Share some of your unpopular opinions.


Lady GaGa - The entire world is drooling, I think she is the most boring and unoriginal artist ever. And I don't care how talented she is.

I agree. I really hate her songs.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on December 28, 2009, 07:38:53 AM
Quote
Twilight - I'm not a twi-hard, never read the books. I thought the first movie was well made and entertaining.
Arrrrggggggggg!  Thats ok though, I kinda sorta liked the second one but doubt I'd watch it again.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on December 28, 2009, 07:54:15 AM
Oh, I dislike just about everything popular.  Any music made since about 1992, anything Hollywood puts out, just about everything on TV;  you name it, I've got a negative opinion on it  :teddyr:

Of course I do like a few things like football, NCIS and Bones, some smooth jazz and instrumental rock stuff that nobody's ever heard of.  And video games.  Low budget movies of course.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on December 28, 2009, 08:42:20 AM
Adam Sandler - He's just not funny to me at all.

Christmas - Well, many know my opinion on the holiday.

New Country: I was never a major fan of the old stuff I(didn't like it or hate it), but I can't stand the stuff. At least guys like Jerry Reed had talent and made good songs, can't say the same for the modern stuff.
Totally agree with this. The crap they pump out now from Faith Hill to Carrie Underwood all sounds the same.

Sandra Bullock - I can't stand her and don't find her attractive at all.  She has ruined more movies on me than any other actor I know. 







Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: 3mnkids on December 28, 2009, 09:16:52 AM
Television~ 200 channels and nothing but garbage on. I do watch supernatural and lie to me when its on but that's it. I go days without even turning it on.

Jewerly~ yes, I am a woman and I hate it. Don't wear it and think its a total waste of money.
same with getting flowers.   :thumbdown:

No talent teen hacks(zac efron, the jonas brothers, miley cyrus) pimped by the Disney channel.

Oprah


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on December 28, 2009, 09:45:36 AM
I hate all these things and so much more....  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: lester1/2jr on December 28, 2009, 11:35:33 AM
the government- I literally think it' s a case of the emporers new clothes.  they take 1/3 of our paycheck and spend it on a bunch of stuff they deem important.  I don't get it.

american idol-  I like some of the really terrible ones but the songs are just corny standards.  I like music for other reasons than the vocalists performance.  I'm not going to listen to a song sung perfectly if I don't like the song

the oscars / grammy's -  what if i don't care for the one that won and like the one that didn't.  how is something "better" than something else.   isn't quality totally subjective?



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on December 28, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
The new fame or shame music game made me think of one hardly anyone agrees with me on...

AC/DC - I just think they're overrated. Especially in the post Bon Scott era.  (ducks things throw at him)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 28, 2009, 12:38:17 PM
Every Fox reality crap. it ain't actuality!
Fox News- bulls**t


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Torgo on December 28, 2009, 12:42:17 PM
REALITY TV!!!!!!

I hate all of it. I'm convinced that one day it will be shown that wathing too much  reliaty TV will cause brain rot.

(http://images1.cafepress.com/product/331286971v1_480x480_Front_Color-White.jpg)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on December 28, 2009, 01:11:48 PM
I can't stand almost any form of heavy metal (unless you count Led Zeppelin, and I don't.  :wink:).


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on December 28, 2009, 01:22:08 PM
I disagree with everything listed here.
 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

Sorry, couldn't resist. 
-Ed


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on December 28, 2009, 06:37:39 PM
Transformers 2.  Everyone on the internet loves to hate this film, and say how crappy it is compared to the first.  I don't really get it, especially not the comparisons to the first.  They have all the same problems, and all the same good things (the second just has more of both ends), so I don't get the love for the first and hate for the second.

I think the second is the superior film, but all I wanted out of it was lots of giant robots fighting each other, so...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Silverlady on December 28, 2009, 07:42:08 PM

Please ... No more breaking news stories about celebrities!  Who the hell really cares anyway?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on December 28, 2009, 07:57:33 PM
american idol-  I like some of the really terrible ones but the songs are just corny standards.  I like music for other reasons than the vocalists performance.  I'm not going to listen to a song sung perfectly if I don't like the song

Funny, I hate American Idol for the opposite reason. I like quite a few of the songs they sing on the show, and a few of the contestants do impress me, but I know once they actually start recording, it's always cookie-cutter pop crap. If I actually come to like a contestant after being sucked into watching yet another season, I always get disappointed by the final week, when I hear the steaming turd that has been specially written as the winner's first single. They take kids with personality and artistic aspirations and force them into that packaged pop mold, and they get me interested in new singers only to turn them into hacks I'll never want to listen to again.

I absolutely agree with everything that's been said about new country. It's become totally urbanized, it's all sung by boring pretty boys and glamour girls without a shred of credibility, and it's mainly a lot of drivel designed to push the buttons of stupid people. Manipulative, sentimental BS that seems so beautiful and meaningful to people with no brains or taste, lots of lip service to Jesus, family and other "motherhood" topics, a ton of flag waving, oversold yet unconvincing rowdiness (in between the lip service to Jesus and family values :question:) and poking fun at northerners and city people, who we all know are not nearly as sensible, smart or down-to-earth as southern faux rednecks. Rah rah rah. What the hell has happened in the last 20 years? In the early 90s, with rap, dance, grunge and "alternative" music supplanting rock and roll everywhere, country seemed like the last bastion of simple, honest, FUN music for me. Since then, it's developed all the annoyance and phoniness of pop, while being immensely popular because it's a big self-congratulatory jerk-off for its fans.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on December 28, 2009, 08:19:40 PM
Please note: if you disagree with any of my opinions, good for you. It's your right as a human. Please allow me that same right.  :teddyr:

I like Barry Manilow, at least his first few albums. Copacabana and after, not so much. I never really cared much for heavy metal. I can't stand the Rolling Stones and think that Led Zeppelin is vastly overrated. Truth be told, I'd rather listen to Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters than almost anything more modern. Oh, and Bob Dylan is a lousy poet. And John Lennon was an idiot and "Imagine" is a horrible song.

If you're a church goer, you likely have "contemporary" worship services, with 7-11 choruses (7 lines, sung 11 times). I hate them almost without exception. They are vapid, empty piles of dung. Not all "real" hymns are great, but they have a much better track record of actual depth and meaning.

I hate Guitar Hero and its clones. I play guitar (poorly, but still), and I've seen too many people who think that GH has something to do with really making music. It's sad and pathetic. It's also a really sorry excuse for a game.

The Terminator series of movies sucked, and I even like Ah-nold. The internal logic of the stories was inconsistent and regularly violated its own rules. Star Wars ep. IV A New Hope was the best of the series. The rest went downhill, with the prequels being the worst offenders. The Empire Strikes Back suffered from poor directing and bad acting.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on December 28, 2009, 09:13:04 PM
If you're a church goer, you likely have "contemporary" worship services, with 7-11 choruses (7 lines, sung 11 times). I hate them almost without exception. They are vapid, empty piles of dung. Not all "real" hymns are great, but they have a much better track record of actual depth and meaning.

I hate Guitar Hero and its clones. I play guitar (poorly, but still), and I've seen too many people who think that GH has something to do with really making music. It's sad and pathetic. It's also a really sorry excuse for a game.


 :cheers:  I'm glad I'm not the only one.  For both of those things.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on December 28, 2009, 09:30:06 PM
The Star Wars Series- Vehemently ADORED by Millions of people, both the original trilogy and the new trilogy, and yet, I can't find one redeeming quality about it, really.  Chewbacca seems cool, but really can't save this pile of sh*t. 

Howard the Duck- A movie that is LOATHED by millions of people, yet I find it quite entertaining, and I mean that in the highest of praise. 

Led Zeppelin- Growing up, all I heard from people was how brilliant these guys were.  How DREADFULLY wrong those people were, indeed.  One good song does not in fact make a great band.

The Eagles- I"m wondering, how in the world can their greatest hits package, featuring some of the WORST songs I've ever heard, be one of the top selling albums in the country?  I mean, people in this country must suffer from having some of the worst taste ever.

U2- I dunno even where to begin with these guys.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on December 28, 2009, 09:36:41 PM
I hate boxing movies.  All boxing movies.  Never have watched a single one of the ROCKY franchise.  Seeing large beefy men pound one another to jelly holds no interest for me whatsoever.


And, for some odd reason, I actually LIKED Jar-Jar Binks.

And I think Ewoks might be good eating.

And . . . . . . .


FOX NEWS RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on December 28, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
I hate boxing movies.  All boxing movies.  Never have watched a single one of the ROCKY franchise.  Seeing large beefy men pound one another to jelly holds no interest for me whatsoever.


And, for some odd reason, I actually LIKED Jar-Jar Binks.

And I think Ewoks might be good eating.

And . . . . . . .


FOX NEWS RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :teddyr:
I quite liked Jar-Jar, actually.  HATED all 35 hours of Phantom Menace...loved Jar-Jar.  Made me laugh. 

As for the Boxing flicks...do you like Boxing as a sport?  Just curious. 

I liked Rocky...but I'm an Italian who lives in Philly, so I HAVE to like Rocky or my card gets revoked... :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on December 28, 2009, 11:34:08 PM
I quite liked Jar-Jar, actually.  HATED all 35 hours of Phantom Menace...loved Jar-Jar.  Made me laugh. 

35 hours?  How many times did you watch it?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on December 28, 2009, 11:49:50 PM
I quite liked Jar-Jar, actually.  HATED all 35 hours of Phantom Menace...loved Jar-Jar.  Made me laugh. 

35 hours?  How many times did you watch it?
Just once.  It was just so un-Godly long and drawn out, excessively boring, and uninteresting in almost every possible way, to the point that I wanted to slam my head in the chair in front of me just to break up the monotony of what I was watching.  Good God that was a horrible experience and turned me off to watching ANY other Star Wars related piece of film.  Really felt like it lasted 35 hours.

Except the Holiday Special.  Saw that online.  Fun stuff, that. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 29, 2009, 12:06:26 AM
I quite liked Jar-Jar, actually.  HATED all 35 hours of Phantom Menace...loved Jar-Jar.  Made me laugh. 
35 hours?  How many times did you watch it?

Except the Holiday Special.  Saw that online.  Fun stuff, that. 
Good For You! :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on December 29, 2009, 11:02:36 AM
On top of everything else I hate, those new James Bond movies with Daniel Craig deserve special mention.  They're putrid!  Just some gibberish with a moronic plot (not that that really plays any part in the movies), no acting, action scenes edited together so nobody has a clue what's going on.  BAH!!!

And rap, hip hop, all that crap.  Hated it the first time I heard it, still hate it just as much today. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on December 29, 2009, 11:37:50 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Josie And The p***ycats live action movie is BRILLIANT


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on December 29, 2009, 12:26:18 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the Josie And The p***ycats live action movie is BRILLIANT

I'm not sure why, but I totally agree. When it's on, I can't look away from the screen.

Also, brilliant filtering on the forum software's part.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on December 29, 2009, 12:37:35 PM
THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION doesn't deserve to be in IMDB's top 250.

THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD doesn't deserve to be in IMDB's bottom 100.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 29, 2009, 12:38:52 PM
Microsoft- seriously, i'm going to be a mac because it took me about 90 minutes to start up our new pc. MICROSOFT SUCKS, BUY A MAC!  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on December 29, 2009, 12:48:54 PM
On top of everything else I hate, those new James Bond movies with Daniel Craig deserve special mention.  They're putrid!  Just some gibberish with a moronic plot (not that that really plays any part in the movies), no acting, action scenes edited together so nobody has a clue what's going on.  BAH!!!

And rap, hip hop, all that crap.  Hated it the first time I heard it, still hate it just as much today. 

Yes! I wholeheartedly agree on both counts.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: lester1/2jr on December 29, 2009, 04:11:55 PM
this is sort of with the grain but against it:  I hate people who drive and talk on cell phones or rather, people who CAN'T drive and talk on cell phones.  If they are good at it I probably don't notice.

at the same time, I'm not for banning cell phones while driving.  I simply employ very well timed horn blasts.  I think it's a happy medium.  they get to talk on the phone. i get to honk. so it's in keeping in like with my libertarian/ anarchist beliefs I think


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on December 29, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
Microsoft- seriously, i'm going to be a mac because it took me about 90 minutes to start up our new pc. MICROSOFT SUCKS, BUY A MAC!  :hatred:

No.  Use Linux!  It's better than both Windows and Mac.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 29, 2009, 05:58:02 PM
Microsoft- seriously, i'm going to be a mac because it took me about 90 minutes to start up our new pc. MICROSOFT SUCKS, BUY A MAC!  :hatred:

No.  Use Linux!  It's better than both Windows and Mac.
Okay, I'll try


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on December 29, 2009, 06:40:52 PM
People in general - They just confuse and irritate me.

Don't get me wrong, I don't wish harm on the human race or anything like that, but sometimes the nastier part of me wants to take over a TV station and list the faults of everybody I know. Either that or give them a good kick. I am including myself by the way.

I am sure everybody on this board has at sometime heard somebody say something along the lines of "People are born (insert good or evil here)."

These people are mistaken. People are not inherently good or evil. People are inherently crazy.

Teenagers who think old = bad - I just don't get this argument. :question: When I say old I mean entertainment that is from before they were born.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SkullBat308 on December 29, 2009, 07:58:10 PM
People in general - They just confuse and irritate me.

Don't get me wrong, I don't wish harm on the human race or anything like that, but sometimes the nastier part of me wants to take over a TV station and list the faults of everybody I know. Either that or give them a good kick. I am including myself by the way.

I am sure everybody on this board has at sometime heard somebody say something along the lines of "People are born (insert good or evil here)."

These people are mistaken. People are not inherently good or evil. People are inherently crazy.

Teenagers who think old = bad - I just don't get this argument. :question: When I say old I mean entertainment that is from before they were born.

I agree wholeheartedly with both these statements! :thumbup: I like how you included yourself in the public airing of grievances (Festivus!), that is very important! Self-reflection!  :cheers:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Saucerman on December 29, 2009, 08:33:05 PM
The American Media (and by extension, the average American male)'s obsession that skinny = beautiful.  I look at all these supermodels with their visible rib cages...I get nothing.  Give me a curvy, little-bit-chubby girl any day. 

No seriously.  Hand them over.  I'm jonesing, here...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on December 30, 2009, 08:46:59 AM
The American Media (and by extension, the average American male)'s obsession that skinny = beautiful.  I look at all these supermodels with their visible rib cages...I get nothing.  Give me a curvy, little-bit-chubby girl any day. 

No seriously.  Hand them over.  I'm jonesing, here...
Agreed...very much so. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 01, 2010, 05:22:26 PM
Ok...this goes against the grain of many.  I've realized today I actually like Milli Vanilli
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/NYJester/milli-vanilli.jpg)
Ok, not those lipsynching tools rather the actual music.  Its catchy and I end up singing it after hearing it.  Its too bad people equate it with the scandal which is still one of the best ever. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 01, 2010, 10:58:36 PM
The American Media (and by extension, the average American male)'s obsession that skinny = beautiful.  I look at all these supermodels with their visible rib cages...I get nothing.  Give me a curvy, little-bit-chubby girl any day. 

No seriously.  Hand them over.  I'm jonesing, here...
I agree with that sentiment. 

There is something quite disturbing when people call these skeletons with size 0 jeans beautiful.  See them up close and they have yellow skin, it's just unhealthy to eat three carrots a day and be, you know, anything but nourished. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 03, 2010, 12:15:35 AM
When people type things in a text form.  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 03, 2010, 12:20:56 AM
When people type things in a text form.  :hatred:
Yeah, I'm with you. 

Even when I text, I never shorten stuff.  I hate it with a passion.  Which is hilarious cause I barely even use my phone to call people.  All I do is text, but I never shorten anything. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Ash on January 03, 2010, 12:44:11 AM
When people type things in a text form.  :hatred:
Yeah, I'm with you. 

Even when I text, I never shorten stuff.  I hate it with a passion.  Which is hilarious cause I barely even use my phone to call people.  All I do is text, but I never shorten anything. 

Heck, I almost always leave my cell phone at home when I go out.
This drives most of my younger friends nuts and they always say, "I tried calling you but you didn't answer your phone!  Why would you leave it at home?"

For most of my life, we didn't have cell phones.  Well, actually we did, but in the early 90's only the rich had them.  All throughout my teen years and most of my 20's, I never had one.
So it's only natural that when I go out, the last thing on my mind is being obsessively connected to my friends.
The only time I take my phone with me is if I'm going to be gone all day or if I'm going out of town.

So yeah, I guess I go "against the grain" when it comes to cell phones.   :wink:



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 03, 2010, 12:57:12 AM
I guess you'd say I'm against the grain in that I don't date, believe in marriage or go to church.  I believe in my Lord, yes, but don't feel I need to go to Church in order to prove I believe.  I've NEVER believed in marriage.  As for the dating thing, well that's not really a choice.  I've been rejected so many times I've stopped trying.  But I remember being in high school and going on full rants about marriage being a sham.

When people type things in a text form.  :hatred:
Yeah, I'm with you. 

Even when I text, I never shorten stuff.  I hate it with a passion.  Which is hilarious cause I barely even use my phone to call people.  All I do is text, but I never shorten anything. 

Heck, I almost always leave my cell phone at home when I go out.
This drives most of my younger friends nuts and they always say, "I tried calling you but you didn't answer your phone!  Why would you leave it at home?"

For most of my life, we didn't have cell phones.  Well, actually we did, but in the early 90's only the rich had them.  All throughout my teen years and most of my 20's, I never had one.
So it's only natural that when I go out, the last thing on my mind is being obsessively connected to my friends.
The only time I take my phone with me is if I'm going to be gone all day or if I'm going out of town.

So yeah, I guess I go "against the grain" when it comes to cell phones.   :wink:


I understand that to an extent.  Me personally, I grew up in the '90s so I'm used to cell phones being around.  Granted, for the first bit of the '90s, it was the Zack Morris "Saved by the Bell" type of phone, big and clunky.  But by the time I hit 13 in '97, they were the smaller versions we have now.  I almost always text.  Just easier than having to go through the formalities of "Hey, how you doing? How's the family, etc?' and just asking a simple question. 



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on January 03, 2010, 02:29:34 AM
I guess you'd say I'm against the grain in that I don't date, believe in marriage or go to church.  I believe in my Lord, yes, but don't feel I need to go to Church in order to prove I believe.  I've NEVER believed in marriage.  As for the dating thing, well that's not really a choice.  I've been rejected so many times I've stopped trying.  But I remember being in high school and going on full rants about marriage being a sham.
I understand that to an extent.  Me personally, I grew up in the '90s so I'm used to cell phones being around.  Granted, for the first bit of the '90s, it was the Zack Morris "Saved by the Bell" type of phone, big and clunky.  But by the time I hit 13 in '97, they were the smaller versions we have now.  I almost always text.  Just easier than having to go through the formalities of "Hey, how you doing? How's the family, etc?' and just asking a simple question. 

Out of all the teenagers I know, only 3 do not have cell phones.  One of those three is me.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 03, 2010, 03:05:52 AM
I am one of the few people who is against making gods out of certain  politicans - they're only human after all.

I loathe the regurgitation of SA's turbulent and unjust past by foreign filmmakers who ignore the problems in their own countries.

I agree with Mohammed Al-Fayed that his son and prospective daughter in law were murdered in Paris in 1997.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on January 03, 2010, 09:21:09 AM
Family of five and not a cell phone among us.  There have been times when it would be nice - such as when somebody gets stuck in traffic or a snowstorm, just for reassurance, or when the eldest misses his bus or train home - but the rest of the time who needs one?  Boggles my mind that the expense is considered an 'essential' - up there with food and shelter - by most people I know (who then use their cells for totally trivial purposes).  I'm not so important that anyone needs to contact me immediately.

Most TV shows.  We've found that we almost always completely dislike what is popular and the few we truly enjoy get cancelled.

I have not redecorated the house since we moved in 18 years ago.  Not that I am happy with the way it looks, but it is functional and presentable (more or less) and I have other priorities for my time, effort and funds.  (Drives my SIL absolutely bonkers that I have not had the kitchen ripped out by now: my cupboards offend her - wrong type of wood apparently.  Even if I *had* the extra several thousand dollars just kicking around, I would not be spending it on a new kitchen!)  Redecorating every few years 'just because' is insane in my books.

I don't often use makeup and don't get my hair 'done'.  A good cut once in a while; never had it dyed and don't plan on starting now.  I can live with it.

I HATE the current style of teeny-tiny eyeglass lenses.  I need to SEE darnit!  Having the frames IN my frame of view is aggravating.  I do have contact lenses but I work in dirty, dusty conditions and rarely wear them.

Marriage: I believe in it.  I have been with my husband for over thirty years. It is not the marriage that keeps us together, it is the bond that prompted us to get married.

In my work (I am self-employed training riding horses and teaching people to ride): in a world that increasingly takes shortcuts in the pursuit of immediate gratification, and often promotes out-and-out *lying* to clients about their abilities and progress (in order to milk more business out of them), I adhere to 'classical' principles in training and refuse to mislead my students. I take the 'long way'.  I feel the results are inarguably superior and well worth the effort.  Obviously I won't be getting rich any time soon...

And most people don't understand my taste in movies.  I'm here, aren't I.   :wink:



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Burgomaster on January 03, 2010, 12:15:33 PM
REALITY TV - Can't we make it go away?  I'm not talking about informative documentary type shows (like the "inside prison" shows, which I love).  I'm talking about shows that center on fat people trying to lose weight, dysfunctional families, future pop idols, and stuff like that.

TOUCHY, FEELY, EXPLOITATIVE TALK SHOWS - Let's run Oprah and all her TV clones straight out of town.

MOVIES WITH LOTS OF CGI - CGI is good when it actually adds value to the movie (like AVATAR).  But when they start using CGI to add clouds to a blue sky and other mundane stuff like that, I think it's going overboard.  Also, I prefer a good old-fashioned car chase with stunt drivers to anything they can create with a computer.  THE FRENCH CONNECTION, BULLITT, RACE WITH THE DEVIL, VANISHING POINT, and DIRTY MARY, CRAZY LARRY didn't need CGI to make good car chases.

HARRY POTTER - Please refer to my old thread "Harry Potter, I know him not."



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on January 03, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
As long as we're baring all here . .  .


I think George W. Bush was not a bad President.

There.  I said it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on January 03, 2010, 06:50:37 PM
Cell Phones - I agree with what people have been saying. They are useful but not necessary.
  Boggles my mind that the expense is considered an 'essential' - up there with food and shelter - by most people I know (who then use their cells for totally trivial purposes).  I'm not so important that anyone needs to contact me immediately.

I am THRILLED to hear somebody say this!  :cheers:  My younger sister can't live without a cell phone. The biggest problem is that she always breaks them. True story: We were on vacation and she went in a leaky paddle boat to a floating dock with her cell phone. Another time she broke her phone by dripping sour cream from a taco into it.   She has also broken a few just by dropping them. And whenever her phone breaks she gets irritable and rude.  :lookingup:

I am 18 and have never owned a cell phone. I have an odd sense of pride for that. The only way I would be willing to get one is if I needed to for a job or if I knew a massive emergency would come up. I just can't imagine what sort of emergency would fit that criteria though. I would never mindlessly text/talk with friends either.

You can't judge a book by it's cover! -

I have never agreed with this saying! I still believe that most of the time you have to give books a chance by reading a little bit of them. However, when I look at all those romance books in the grocery store, I am not likely to mistake them for a spooky story collection. I am also not going to be tricked into believing I will be thrilled with a plain blue book titled something like 100 years of photos from Model Airplane Weekly.

On a related note Movie Previews - Sometimes I just can't stand it when people tell me "You don't know if you'll like the movie or not! All you have seen is the preview!" Sometimes they are right but usually they are wrong. I don't need to see the entirety of Did You Hear About The Morgans? to know it's not my type of movie.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 03, 2010, 09:24:08 PM
I don't play video games.  Have no interest in getting a system; I'm not sure I would take one if it were offered for free.  I will play an occasional computer game as long as it's geared towards strategy and not reflexes or button pushing.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on January 03, 2010, 09:34:36 PM
Just being straight edge makes me a bit different from most (especially where I live as I'm the only non-drinker I know). I don't need any alcohol, cigarettes or any other type of recreational drugs to have a good time. I don't abuse prescription or over the counter drugs either. I also believe in being in a relationship before sex.

I don't own a cell phone and really doubt I'd ever need one aside from a potential emergency.

I've always preferred women who had more meat on their bones. Curves and just more of all the good bits so to speak.  :wink: :teddyr:

I also actually really like most films people think are bad. I really get loads of enjoyment out of AIP films in particular.

I hate CGI and the mainstream celebrity stalking so prominent these days. Hate Entertainment Tonight and other celebrity gossip shows big time. Loathe game shows nowadays (used to like Price is Right as a kid).



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 03, 2010, 09:54:04 PM


I don't own a cell phone and really doubt I'd ever need one aside from a potential emergency.


I ALWAYS lose my cell phone  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 03, 2010, 10:25:11 PM
I think texting is a complete and utter waste of time.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 03, 2010, 10:29:27 PM
Oh and I HATE professional sports of all kinds.  I used to watch them but realized as a society we allow guys who play a kid's game for a living to make millions upon millions while people who do jobs of real importance get squat.  Sorry but count me out.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 03, 2010, 10:36:53 PM
I have a cell phone, and it would be extremely useful, except that I'm always leaving the house without it, and always forgetting to charge it, and never giving out the number. My wife's family makes much more use of theirs. At times, I think they might use them more than land lines. I will admit it's a handy thing to have on a long drive, but I just can't get in the habit of using the thing.

This was true even when I was a reporter and being reachable was important. Hardly anybody had the number, and I hardly ever had the phone until I started chaining it to my camera bag. Even then, I would mostly just get calls from my wife during late meetings, wondering how late I'd be. The mayor and council would be discussing some sort of business, and the Doctor Who theme would suddenly start blaring from my pocket. They'd all laugh as I fumbled around trying to answer it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 03, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
Oh and I HATE professional sports of all kinds.  I used to watch them but realized as a society we allow guys who play a kid's game for a living to make millions upon millions while people who do jobs of real importance get squat.  Sorry but count me out.

Sports just bore me. People running up and down with a ball or skating up and down with a puck - it just doesn't hold my interest enough for me to actually follow it. I even used to do some sports photography, but then it was just a matter of following the action and anticipating a visually exciting moment. That was fun, but don't ask me what happened in the game. I actually wish I did like watching sports, because people seem to have a lot of fun doing it, but it's just not for me.

I have a particular dislike for televised sports, mainly on account of my dad always having some kind of a game on and monopolizing the TV for the whole evening when I was a kid. That and all of the times a good show was bumped by a football game that couldn't stay within its time slot. It always bugged me that sporting events could get away with that, and that the programs I enjoyed were somehow less important.

I don't mind professional sports per se, but I do hate the way people make this stuff out to be so much more important than it is. You could compare it with actors getting paid lots of money to entertain us. They can do something people will pay to see. That's fair. But when was the last time you saw a rowdy mob vandalize a city core because they were particularly moved by a film they saw, or fly flags from their cars showing loyalty to a favourite director? It doesn't happen, because the public, by and large, knows that movies are just entertainment. For some reason, people don't grasp that when it comes to sports.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 03, 2010, 10:53:38 PM
Just being straight edge makes me a bit different from most (especially where I live as I'm the only non-drinker I know). I don't need any alcohol, cigarettes or any other type of recreational drugs to have a good time. I don't abuse prescription or over the counter drugs either. I also believe in being in a relationship before sex.



I was Straight Edge for a while.  Then, well, long story short, was the total polar opposite.  Fortunately, I've gotten my life back together.  I didn't do anything for a while, then some girl I know invited me out to the bar recently.  I went, but really didn't see the appeal in drinking that much anymore.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on January 04, 2010, 12:37:12 AM
More power to you for getting your life back on track. I'm Straight Edge but I'm not an hardliner who believes no one can come back to the lifestyle if one makes a mistake. I do believe in it myself as a lifelong commitment but  mostly it a matter of choosing the right thing over the wrong. I don't tell anyone else how to live but some things should be obvious when they're not working for you. I applaud anyone who can overcome an addiction.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 04, 2010, 01:15:50 AM
people who just troll on youtube and say negative things on stuff they don't like. I all have to say is get a life  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on January 04, 2010, 10:30:00 AM
Family of five and not a cell phone among us.  There have been times when it would be nice - such as when somebody gets stuck in traffic or a snowstorm, just for reassurance, or when the eldest misses his bus or train home - but the rest of the time who needs one?  Boggles my mind that the expense is considered an 'essential' - up there with food and shelter - by most people I know (who then use their cells for totally trivial purposes).  I'm not so important that anyone needs to contact me immediately.

Most TV shows.  We've found that we almost always completely dislike what is popular and the few we truly enjoy get cancelled.


I have and use a cell phone regularly, but mostly either to talk to my wife or for business. I also use it as a scheduler to keep appointment info on since my business is all by appointment. I don't really like them much, but it has become a tool for me that I depend on. We haven't had a land line for several years now. I, however, still being a dork, to this day look for our answering machine when I get home to see if there are any messages.  :bouncegiggle:

As for TV, we cut off our cable. It was any sacrifice; we just found we hadn't turned the TV on in several months, so we decided it was silly to pay for it. I haven't missed it more than occasionally, and then only barely.

And add me to the list of people who don't care anything about sports. I can watch a game and appreciate good plays, but I'm just not competitive enough to root for a team. I'll look at final scores for a couple of teams I like (I've claimed to be a Saints fan since the days of Archie Manning), but I don't usually seek out the games to watch on television. As a consequence, my daughter (who is in band and has to go to games during football season) is only beginning to understand even the basic rules of football (she's a sophomore), and she hates the game. Darn.

And I guess I'm straight edge as well; I don't drink, do drugs or smoke. It's not really a commitment, though, as much as I just don't see the point to developing self-destructive and expensive habits. I'm too cheap to be a party animal. And too old now, too.  :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: trekgeezer on January 04, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
I have a cell phone, but I'm absent minded about where the heck it  is most of the time. Wife, daughter, son use their's obsessively.

I pretty much ignore sports altogether because I quite frankly find most to them boring as hell,  although I do like sports movies for some odd reason.  I think it's because in movies they don't show the boring parts,only the action.

The Natural , Rocky, and Rocky Balboa are among my favorite films to rewatch, but I think that's because of the characters and has little to do with the sports.


I also, like a good chick flick now and then, and I used to regularly watch Seventh Heaven and Gilmore girls with the wife.



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 04, 2010, 12:32:40 PM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 04, 2010, 12:43:01 PM
Those God damn adds on Youtube  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 04, 2010, 01:34:02 PM
I can watch a game and appreciate good plays, but I'm just not competitive enough to root for a team.

That reminds me of another thing that annoys me about sports fans. It's the ones who become die-hard fans of teams in spite of having no connection to them. I can see taking an interest in the "home team" or whatever team is close to where you live, or maybe where you grew up. I can even appreciate the division between fans who live in between two teams. At least that's a matter of local or regional pride. And I've known people who have sons in the NHL, so it makes sense to cheer for Junior's team, wherever it might be. What I don't get is why a lot of people cheer for teams on the other end of the continent. Because they currently win a lot? Because they currently have some good players? To me, that misses the point of supporting a team entirely.

For that matter, the notion that your local sports team reflects in any way on your town makes little sense to me, especially at the national level. Teams are drafting players from all over the place, and constantly trading them around. These guys don't necessarily even like the towns they're playing in. Teams even move from one city to another on occasion. How does this reflect on your town? I suppose in the same way it reflects on some couch potato who has never done more than watch the game on TV.

But then, I've admitted I don't really understand the appeal of watching sports in the first place.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Cthulhu on January 04, 2010, 02:00:24 PM
Those God damn adds on Youtube  :hatred:
Use Adblock plus.
It works great. :thumbup:
https://addons.mozilla.org/hu/firefox/addon/1865 (https://addons.mozilla.org/hu/firefox/addon/1865)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 05, 2010, 12:22:00 AM
I can watch a game and appreciate good plays, but I'm just not competitive enough to root for a team.

That reminds me of another thing that annoys me about sports fans. It's the ones who become die-hard fans of teams in spite of having no connection to them. I can see taking an interest in the "home team" or whatever team is close to where you live, or maybe where you grew up. I can even appreciate the division between fans who live in between two teams. At least that's a matter of local or regional pride. And I've known people who have sons in the NHL, so it makes sense to cheer for Junior's team, wherever it might be. What I don't get is why a lot of people cheer for teams on the other end of the continent. Because they currently win a lot? Because they currently have some good players? To me, that misses the point of supporting a team entirely.

For that matter, the notion that your local sports team reflects in any way on your town makes little sense to me, especially at the national level. Teams are drafting players from all over the place, and constantly trading them around. These guys don't necessarily even like the towns they're playing in. Teams even move from one city to another on occasion. How does this reflect on your town? I suppose in the same way it reflects on some couch potato who has never done more than watch the game on TV.

But then, I've admitted I don't really understand the appeal of watching sports in the first place.
I agree with you, mostly.  Generally speaking, I really only follow my local teams representing Philly: Eagles, Flyers, Phillies, and 76ers.  Although, I do support some teams from other places.  I quite like the Detroit Lions, and they're a HORRIBLE team.  I liked them last season, openly supported them, but they saw a losing streak that's just pathetic.  I don't gauge liking a team based upon win/loss records.  Just weather or not like them on the whole.  But beyond that, yeah, I totally support your sentiments.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 05, 2010, 12:25:05 AM



I also, like a good chick flick now and then, and I used to regularly watch Seventh Heaven and Gilmore girls with the wife.


I quite regularly watched Gilmore Girls.  Still do.  Despite the fact that being a straight 25 Year Old Male puts me a bit outside of their demographics.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 05, 2010, 03:17:55 AM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

There's quite a good restaurant just down the road here: I'm buying.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 05, 2010, 08:46:55 AM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

There's quite a good restaurant just down the road here: I'm buying.  :smile:

Careful. He might think that includes the plane ticket. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 05, 2010, 08:54:36 AM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

There's quite a good restaurant just down the road here: I'm buying.  :smile:

Careful. He might think that includes the plane ticket. :teddyr:

[Trevor scrambles to hide wallet] Yikes!  :buggedout: +  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 05, 2010, 09:04:54 AM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

There's quite a good restaurant just down the road here: I'm buying.  :smile:

Careful. He might think that includes the plane ticket. :teddyr:

[Trevor scrambles to hide wallet] Yikes!  :buggedout: +  :teddyr:
12 PM next Wed sound good?   :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on January 05, 2010, 09:11:03 AM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

There's quite a good restaurant just down the road here: I'm buying.  :smile:

Careful. He might think that includes the plane ticket. :teddyr:

[Trevor scrambles to hide wallet] Yikes!  :buggedout: +  :teddyr:
12 PM next Wed sound good?   :bouncegiggle:
As long as that gives you enough time to charter the plane and pick us all up!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 05, 2010, 09:18:52 AM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

There's quite a good restaurant just down the road here: I'm buying.  :smile:

Careful. He might think that includes the plane ticket. :teddyr:

[Trevor scrambles to hide wallet] Yikes!  :buggedout: +  :teddyr:
12 PM next Wed sound good?   :bouncegiggle:

Next Friday, please: I get paid [tipped] on the 15th.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 05, 2010, 09:20:02 AM
I don't ever refuse a free lunch.  If you say "I'm buying", then you are.   :twirl:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

There's quite a good restaurant just down the road here: I'm buying.  :smile:

Careful. He might think that includes the plane ticket. :teddyr:

[Trevor scrambles to hide wallet] Yikes!  :buggedout: +  :teddyr:
12 PM next Wed sound good?   :bouncegiggle:
As long as that gives you enough time to charter the plane and pick us all up!

 :teddyr: :thumbup: And that means all of you.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 05, 2010, 11:37:52 AM
Against the grain, on this board, at least:  I don't like professional wrestling.  I understand the appeal and I appreciate the athleticism but it just bores me.  I really gave it a shot during the Stone Cold Steve Austin v. The Rock days, watching several weeks of programs in a row and even attending a live show at the Thomas and Mack.  I just couldn't get into it.  I spent more time thinking about how the writers were trying to manipulate the audience than appreciating the athletic displays. 

It's the opposite of why I like real sports.  I enjoy them because they're unscripted and unpredictable, because anything can happen on the field or court depending on players and coaches.  There's also the element of strategy to appreciate, why a coach makes a particular tactical decision, and whether I agree or disagree with his choice.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 05, 2010, 06:52:03 PM
Against the grain, on this board, at least:  I don't like professional wrestling.  I understand the appeal and I appreciate the athleticism but it just bores me.  I really gave it a shot during the Stone Cold Steve Austin v. The Rock days, watching several weeks of programs in a row and even attending a live show at the Thomas and Mack.  I just couldn't get into it.  I spent more time thinking about how the writers were trying to manipulate the audience than appreciating the athletic displays. 

It's the opposite of why I like real sports.  I enjoy them because they're unscripted and unpredictable, because anything can happen on the field or court depending on players and coaches.  There's also the element of strategy to appreciate, why a coach makes a particular tactical decision, and whether I agree or disagree with his choice.

Interesting. I think the reason I used to like wrestling in spite of not liking sports was that it was as much drama as it was sport. Mind you, I haven't really liked wrestling since the days of Hulkamania.

I think part of my problem with watching sports is that nothing is happening most of the time. Baseball is short bursts of activity between stretches of nothing, and football and hockey are effectively the same because play is constantly being stopped. Every time hockey threatens to get interesting, the ref blows the whistle and they face off again. Football is an hour long game that can last three or four hours, because play is always getting stopped, followed by another elaborate setup a couple of yards from where the last one took place.

You want to keep my interest, let somebody tackle the quarterback, pick up the ball and run the other way. Start playing and keep going for 15 minutes. Don't stop the hockey game every time a goalie dives on the puck. Make him shoot it toward centre ice and keep going. Don't stop play for anything but penalties and injuries. Switch players on the fly if they get tired. I don't know if that would be enough to make sports more interesting for me, but it would sure make them less boring.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 05, 2010, 09:18:43 PM
I've seen sports fan argues about what team is better or what athlete is better.  I think for me the bottom line for sports is who cares who you cheer for?  These people all make ridiculous money win, lose or how awful/well they play.

Next one for me I absolutely can't stand Nascar...I simply don't get it.  I tell my mother in law who worships it that it is the ultimate form of redneck entertainment. Maybe if they put rocket launchers on the carts I'd take interest. 




Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on January 05, 2010, 10:06:15 PM
I find the vast majority of real sports boring but I tend to enjoy films about sports and of course I love pro wrestling. I think it's because I know wrestling is going to deliver a certain amount of entertainment that is nowhere near as likely in competitive sports. A boxing match can end pretty quickly as can a UFC fight and both both me far quicker than wrestling does (although I did prefer wrestling from the 1980s too). Strangely enough, real old time pro wrestling from the early 1900s could have a bout go on for 4 to 5 hours at a time. Hard to imagine but that actually on occasion sold out arena back in that era. Of course I do enjoy watching hockey on occasion but then I don't think I'd be fully Canadian if I didn't enjoy at least the occasional game.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 05, 2010, 10:50:32 PM
A friend of mine used to invite me over for UFC pay-per-view events once in a while. I'd go because it was a chance to socialize with other guys, stay up late and drink beer. But the truth is I actually enjoyed it. I can't say I've ever watched ultimate fighting at all except on those occasions, but it was fairly entertaining in that setting. I don't find boxing all that interesting, especially when the big matches are so short, and particularly because it is so strictly controlled. Ultimate Fighting is one match after another of two guys beating the living s**t out of each other any way they can, and usually going the full time. It kind of addresses the problem I mentioned before, that sports need less formality and more continuous action.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on January 05, 2010, 11:55:42 PM
I find UFC fights incredibly dull and nowhere near as exciting as a superbly "worked" pro wrestling match. Give me charisma and showmanship over dull, forgettable fighters anyday. Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker from Wrestlemania 25 is a great example as is Flair vs. HBK from Wrestlemania 24.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 06, 2010, 12:04:01 AM
I find UFC fights incredibly dull and nowhere near as exciting as a superbly "worked" pro wrestling match. Give me charisma and showmanship over dull, forgettable fighters anyday. Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker from Wrestlemania 25 is a great example as is Flair vs. HBK from Wrestlemania 24.
I agree, actually.

It's not so much that I dislike UFC.  I appreciate the fact that's it's real and un-worked or unscripted, and that they're really beating each other up.  But, what I hate is that they'll have a five minute round, and the first three minutes is the two guys looking at each other waiting for the other to make a move first.  Then they spend two minutes in an armbar, then the ref stops the round as it's starting to kinda pick up.  Then, Round 2 starts, and it's three more minutes of pacing around.  It takes guts to go in there, but at the same time, I prefer pro wrestling.  At least they have storylines and drama leading up to the match, they go flying around the ring, jumping out of the ring onto tables and chairs, etc.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 06, 2010, 12:19:10 AM
I'm gonna go against the grain of others on this board: I quite like Lady GaGa.  She's much better a performer/singer than about 90% of the other pop acts currently heard on top 40 radio. 

I'm not saying she's a CLASSIC performer, mind you, but I have her debut album from last year, and it's a very good album.  I'm not saying it's Dark Side of the Moon or Thriller good, but much better than anything Britney Spears or Mandy Moore or Backstreet Boys have put out.  Plus, I at least know who she is, compared to many of the other performers out there.  And of the performers I can name, she's much more talented, musically, than say: The Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez or any of those other "Disney" acts that top the charts. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on January 06, 2010, 12:53:04 AM
Phantasm- I really don't understand why this has any type of fanbase at all, or how it managed to have 3 sequels.

Shaun of the Dead- Not funny at all. On the contrary. It's actally genuinly SAD at some points.

Family Guy- am I the only one who noticess that this show isnt funny and is a total unfunny rip off of The Simpsons? Sorry, but 10 miniutes of a baby trying to get its moms attention by saying "Mom" over and over and over again is .....well RETARDED for lack of a better word.

The Dark Knight- Sue me. I just dont think its all that great. Not bad, but not great.

Blu Ray and High Def technology- Completely useless and unesesary. Not that much of a difference than dvd. I dont need to nore do I WANT to count the pores on Brad Pitts face.

Texting- seriously. It's so impersonal. What's the point? just CALL ME if you wanna tell me something. jeez.

Dane Cook- Just die already.....or stop doing "comedy". please.


Ok, thats enough venting for one evening.......



oh, and Im sure most of you will agree with me on this one, but if I hear one more thing about Twilight or anything related, I'm going to......do something very irational. Phuck that whole fad. I mean I REALLY HATE twilight.
Back in April, I was told by a few women that I looked like Edward Cullen, so i was forced to shave my head bald. .......i REEEELY HATE twilight.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: hellbilly on January 06, 2010, 01:52:04 AM
Heavy Metal & Horror Movies. I never understood why both always had to go hand in hand. I love horror movies but I don't care much about heavy metal.
The metal/rock scene just wasn't my cup of tea. Those tight jeans or army fatigue pants, wide shirts, the long (and sometimes big) hair (in the 80s), head banging, the tough guy act - to me that was more amusing than New Wave. So yeah, I'm going against the grain here by not digging metal music as a horror film fan.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on January 06, 2010, 02:14:38 AM
I find UFC fights incredibly dull and nowhere near as exciting as a superbly "worked" pro wrestling match. Give me charisma and showmanship over dull, forgettable fighters anyday. Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker from Wrestlemania 25 is a great example as is Flair vs. HBK from Wrestlemania 24.
I agree, actually.

It's not so much that I dislike UFC.  I appreciate the fact that's it's real and un-worked or unscripted, and that they're really beating each other up.  But, what I hate is that they'll have a five minute round, and the first three minutes is the two guys looking at each other waiting for the other to make a move first.  Then they spend two minutes in an armbar, then the ref stops the round as it's starting to kinda pick up.  Then, Round 2 starts, and it's three more minutes of pacing around.  It takes guts to go in there, but at the same time, I prefer pro wrestling.  At least they have storylines and drama leading up to the match, they go flying around the ring, jumping out of the ring onto tables and chairs, etc.

UFC was a lot more entertaining and interesting before John McCain ruined it.  Over the years they've added tons of rules about what you can't do..  In the first UFC, the rules were, IIRC, no biting and no eye gouging.  Now there's this ludicrously long list.  And virtually every restriction they've added has made grappling more and more important (which was ridiculous to begin with, since Royce Gracie won the first UFC with BJJ).  And grappling/submission, in the UFC (in some other MMA tournaments it's better, like Pride FC), is boring about 90% of the time. 

On another note, I think it's completely ludicrous that there were so many attempts to ban MMA competitions and bare fisted fighting competitions. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 06, 2010, 02:49:40 AM
I dont need to nore do I WANT to count the pores on Brad Pitts face.

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 06, 2010, 07:17:32 AM
UFC was a lot more entertaining and interesting before John McCain ruined it.  Over the years they've added tons of rules about what you can't do..  In the first UFC, the rules were, IIRC, no biting and no eye gouging.  Now there's this ludicrously long list.  And virtually every restriction they've added has made grappling more and more important (which was ridiculous to begin with, since Royce Gracie won the first UFC with BJJ).  And grappling/submission, in the UFC (in some other MMA tournaments it's better, like Pride FC), is boring about 90% of the time. 

Hmmm, it's been about five years since I've seen a UFC match. So, it's become as bogged down in rules as every other sport?

On the other hand, professional wrestling has gone too far the other way for me. Too much emphasis on entertainment.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 06, 2010, 12:14:40 PM

Family Guy- am I the only one who noticess that this show isnt funny and is a total unfunny rip off of The Simpsons? Sorry, but 10 miniutes of a baby trying to get its moms attention by saying "Mom" over and over and over again is .....well RETARDED for lack of a better word.


Agree, though for different reasons. I get sick of all the pop-culture references and the constant digressions from the plot.  Also, the attempt to inject so much "shocking" humor is tiresome. To me, it smacks of writers who aren't content just to try to be FUNNY, but think they always have to be EDGY.  It's a pose that gets repetitive and annoys me.  I dislike "Robot Chicken" for the same reason.

Strongly disagree about PHANTASM, though.  Not only do I like it, but even if I didn't like it I could at least understand why others liked it.  I don't like heavy metal or pro wrestling but I can see why others do.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 06, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
Heavy Metal & Horror Movies. I never understood why both always had to go hand in hand. I love horror movies but I don't care much about heavy metal.
The metal/rock scene just wasn't my cup of tea. Those tight jeans or army fatigue pants, wide shirts, the long (and sometimes big) hair (in the 80s), head banging, the tough guy act - to me that was more amusing than New Wave. So yeah, I'm going against the grain here by not digging metal music as a horror film fan.

You're not alone.  You read my mind. (Though to keep consistent with my statement above I do "understand" the connection---heavy metal is the Devil's music, after all.   :wink:)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on January 06, 2010, 01:52:11 PM
There's too much emphasis on beauty and falsefied "perfection" these days. I loved that in years past characters came in all shapes and sizes. For example in pro wrestling, it's rare to find a Dusty Rhodes type wrestler anymore nowadays. And on movies and TV shows, those in the mold of the classic character actors of old seem a little too hard to find these days (although I have to admit to enjoying a few more character driven modern shows like "Cold Case", "Doctor Who" and "Torchwood")  and often seem a bit more in the background when they do get used.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 06, 2010, 02:09:56 PM
There's too much emphasis on beauty and falsefied "perfection" these days. I loved that in years past characters came in all shapes and sizes. For example in pro wrestling, it's rare to find a Dusty Rhodes type wrestler anymore nowadays. And on movies and TV shows, those in the mold of the classic character actors of old seem a little too hard to find these days (although I have to admit to enjoying a few more character driven modern shows like "Cold Case", "Doctor Who" and "Torchwood")  and often seem a bit more in the background when they do get used.

Agreed. Some of today's crop of good-looking young TV and movie stars look downright freakish.

And I think most of us here on the board tend to like traditional character actors the best - those distinctive faces that pop up in movie after movie. Not the stars. The working actors who show up, give their best performance, collect a paycheque and move on. The ones we only know by their work because they go home to their private lives at the end of the day instead of popping up in the gossip rags all the time.

That's what I miss as much as diversity in actors - knowing them for their work only. It's hard to watch a movie with, for example, Tom Cruise without it being totally ruined by his off-screen public image. I want to be able to forget who these people are and enjoy them as the characters they play, not think about who is a drunk, a bigot, a Scientologist nutjob, a pervert or whatever. Is that too much to ask?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 06, 2010, 08:16:44 PM
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Shaun of the Dead- Not funny at all. On the contrary. It's actally genuinly SAD at some points.
Totally agreed, people talk about this film as if it is funny and I didn't laugh once.

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The Dark Knight- Sue me. I just dont think its all that great. Not bad, but not great.
This may be one of the most overrated films of all time IMHO.  Also, and may he rest in peace, Heath Ledger played a good joker.  However, I'm sure someone else can pick up the role.  I can't stand people who say the role can never be filled again.

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oh, and Im sure most of you will agree with me on this one, but if I hear one more thing about Twilight or anything related, I'm going to......do something very irational. Phuck that whole fad. I mean I REALLY HATE twilight.
Back in April, I was told by a few women that I looked like Edward Cullen, so i was forced to shave my head bald. .......i REEEELY HATE twilight.
Twilight, the more stuff I hear and the more movies I see, is just awful.  I've already told my wife, who love the series, that I probably couldn't stomach the next two films.  Its a horribly written story with no apparent plot thus far.  However, it makes for great reviewing material.  Theres just too much to pick on...easily I might add.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 06, 2010, 08:35:08 PM
I don't think Seinfeld is funny at all. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on January 06, 2010, 09:00:29 PM
I don't think Seinfeld is funny at all. 

I have to agree there.  In fact, I honestly don't find any sitcoms funny.  I sometimes enjoy Fraiser, but other than that they really aren't that great.  I think the worst is Two and a Half Men.  Charlie Sheen needs to give it up.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 06, 2010, 09:20:10 PM
b***hes and/or fags who use people for money :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 06, 2010, 11:06:50 PM


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The Dark Knight- Sue me. I just dont think its all that great. Not bad, but not great.
This may be one of the most overrated films of all time IMHO.  Also, and may he rest in peace, Heath Ledger played a good joker.  However, I'm sure someone else can pick up the role.  I can't stand people who say the role can never be filled again.


I'm sure eventually they'll find another actor to play Joker.  The director did state though, that if a sequel gets made with him as the director, nobody else will be Joker.  It may be an overrated movie, but the performance of Aaron Eckhart as Two-Face and Heath as Joker saved it. 

Rumors abounded a year ago or so of Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Penguin, and I'd LOVE to see it.  He's a hell of an actor who could pull it off.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 06, 2010, 11:12:38 PM

Family Guy- am I the only one who noticess that this show isnt funny and is a total unfunny rip off of The Simpsons? Sorry, but 10 miniutes of a baby trying to get its moms attention by saying "Mom" over and over and over again is .....well RETARDED for lack of a better word.


Agree, though for different reasons. I get sick of all the pop-culture references and the constant digressions from the plot.  Also, the attempt to inject so much "shocking" humor is tiresome. To me, it smacks of writers who aren't content just to try to be FUNNY, but think they always have to be EDGY.  It's a pose that gets repetitive and annoys me.  I dislike "Robot Chicken" for the same reason.

Strongly disagree about PHANTASM, though.  Not only do I like it, but even if I didn't like it I could at least understand why others liked it.  I don't like heavy metal or pro wrestling but I can see why others do.
I very much agree with the sentiments about Family Guy.  Which is kinda why I really like/respect the South Park guys, as they've moved from the 'shocking' elements of the show (Kenny dying every week, cursing, AIDS jokes, whatever) and going the political kinda satire way. 

I don't HATE Family Guy, but I've lost a lot of interest in the show.  The gimmick wore itself out.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on January 07, 2010, 12:23:30 AM
I very much agree with the sentiments about Family Guy.  Which is kinda why I really like/respect the South Park guys, as they've moved from the 'shocking' elements of the show (Kenny dying every week, cursing, AIDS jokes, whatever) and going the political kinda satire way. 

I don't HATE Family Guy, but I've lost a lot of interest in the show.  The gimmick wore itself out.

Also, Family Guy is written by Manatees.  It's true!*  :teddyr:




*according to South Park.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on January 07, 2010, 01:43:55 AM
I love "Seinfeld" and only find "Frasier" tolerable (but y'know I felt the same about "Cheers" too). My girlfriend though doesn't care for "Seinfeld". Seems people either love it or hate it usually. One show I might be a bit against the grain being a guy for liking is "Golden Girls". My GF loves it and I've come to really enjoy the hilarious quips and digs frequently given by Dorothy and Sophia.

I reallly enjoyed SHAUN OF THE DEAD and HOT FUZZ too. Wasn't so fond of RUN, FATBOY, RUN although it did have its moments. I love Britcoms (esp."Fawlty Towers", "Are You Being Served?", "Keeping Up Appearances", "The Young Ones", "Bottom", "My Family", "One Foot in the Grave", etc.) and quality British shows in general (Torchwood", "Doctor Who", "The Avengers", "The Prisoner", "UFO" so maybe it's not so suprising.

THE DARK KNIGHT I still have to watch all the way through....I will eventually but I was very disappointed by what I saw at the start. The best BATMAN film I like is actually BATMAN RETURNS believe it or not with BATMAN: MASK OF THE PHANTASM a close second.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 07, 2010, 08:42:24 AM
I love "Seinfeld" and only find "Frasier" tolerable (but y'know I felt the same about "Cheers" too). My girlfriend though doesn't care for "Seinfeld". Seems people either love it or hate it usually. One show I might be a bit against the grain being a guy for liking is "Golden Girls". My GF loves it and I've come to really enjoy the hilarious quips and digs frequently given by Dorothy and Sophia.

Golden Girls is funny. I didn't really like it when it first aired, but I was in high school and it was my mom's idea of a good show. Seeing it years later, I can appreciate it more. The best bits for me are Rose's stories of St. Olaf. Those crack me up.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 07, 2010, 08:49:47 AM
I am a pretty big fan of Family Guy.  Matter of fact, its one of few shows out there that continuously gives me laughs.  However, I can admit that a lot of their episodes/gags are hit or miss.  For example, the most recent one where Peter has amnesia was dull and completely unfunny.  That and the one where Mort, Stewie and Brian go back to WW2 Germany. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Cthulhu on January 07, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
I HATE Scrubs.
It's not funny. At all.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 07, 2010, 12:07:28 PM
I brought up Seinfeld the other day as not being funny.  I'll also add in Friends.  Which reminds me, I can't stand Jennifer Anniston.  She plays the same irritating role in everything I've ever seen her in.  

Reality TV was brought up which I agree with.  However, I'll especially give a nod to the TLC batch.  Stuff like Jon and Kate Plus 8.  I'm sick of people being famous for...well...nothing.  So what, you popped out 8 kids...or in the Dugger's case almost 20.  Who gives a damn?  I have my own family to watch, why should I give a crap about theirs?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 07, 2010, 12:13:15 PM
I love "Seinfeld" and only find "Frasier" tolerable (but y'know I felt the same about "Cheers" too). My girlfriend though doesn't care for "Seinfeld". Seems people either love it or hate it usually. One show I might be a bit against the grain being a guy for liking is "Golden Girls". My GF loves it and I've come to really enjoy the hilarious quips and digs frequently given by Dorothy and Sophia.

Golden Girls is funny. I didn't really like it when it first aired, but I was in high school and it was my mom's idea of a good show. Seeing it years later, I can appreciate it more. The best bits for me are Rose's stories of St. Olaf. Those crack me up.

A third vote for "Golden Girls."  It's not a classic but it is consistently enjoyable and funny.     


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 07, 2010, 12:38:13 PM
Oh forgot, count me in for Golden Girls too. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on January 07, 2010, 02:26:27 PM
Oh forgot, count me in for Golden Girls too. 

Me too.  Betty White is 87 now, and she's still hilarious.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 07, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
Oh forgot, count me in for Golden Girls too. 

Me too.  Betty White is 87 now, and she's still hilarious.

Did you see her on Comedy Central's Roast of William Shatner? She was just about the funniest guest they had.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Allhallowsday on January 07, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
...So it's only natural that when I go out, the last thing on my mind is being obsessively connected to my friends.
The only time I take my phone with me is if I'm going to be gone all day or if I'm going out of town.
So yeah, I guess I go "against the grain" when it comes to cell phones.   :wink: 
Well, I wouldn't say that... I, for one, won't even carry one of the things.  I do not own a cell phone.  Why would I want phone calls following me around?   :wink:  My employer offered to pay for one for me.  Nope. 
If I was commuting to a job, I'd carry one; I think they're marvelous to have for parents... I'm glad to report all of my women friends carry one... in fact, most of my friends do... okay, maybe I'm also "against the grain" and coincidentally in a manner just like you Ash.   :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Allhallowsday on January 08, 2010, 12:01:57 AM
I love "Seinfeld" and only find "Frasier" tolerable (but y'know I felt the same about "Cheers" too). My girlfriend though doesn't care for "Seinfeld". Seems people either love it or hate it usually. One show I might be a bit against the grain being a guy for liking is "Golden Girls". My GF loves it and I've come to really enjoy the hilarious quips and digs frequently given by Dorothy and Sophia.
Golden Girls is funny. I didn't really like it when it first aired, but I was in high school and it was my mom's idea of a good show. Seeing it years later, I can appreciate it more. The best bits for me are Rose's stories of St. Olaf. Those crack me up.
A third vote for "Golden Girls."  It's not a classic but it is consistently enjoyable and funny.     
"Golden Girls" is most certainly a classic, you and I may be just too old and appreciated it when it was new.   :wink:  "Classic" doesn't mean perfection.  A classic is something that's aged well. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 08, 2010, 12:13:05 AM
I very much agree with the sentiments about Family Guy.  Which is kinda why I really like/respect the South Park guys, as they've moved from the 'shocking' elements of the show (Kenny dying every week, cursing, AIDS jokes, whatever) and going the political kinda satire way. 

I don't HATE Family Guy, but I've lost a lot of interest in the show.  The gimmick wore itself out.

Also, Family Guy is written by Manatees.  It's true!*  :teddyr:




*according to South Park.
One of the better episodes.  The writers at Family Guy were apparently 'very happy' with the turnout and now refer to their cutaway gags as "Manatee gags" as a result. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on January 13, 2010, 02:07:23 AM
One of the better episodes.  The writers at Family Guy were apparently 'very happy' with the turnout and now refer to their cutaway gags as "Manatee gags" as a result. 

You know, I think that was a puss-out episode to be honest.  I mean, the whole issue of the cartoon showing Mohammad and how certain Muslims were reacting to it was RIPE with material for satire, but instead they turn the whole episode (well, two episodes) into a "bash Family Guy" piece (in fact, they even REPEAT the statement about the flashbacks not being related to the plot in BOTH episodes.)

For all the bashing South Park does of Christianity, Catholicism and Judaism in general, for some reason they pretty much treated Islam with kid gloves.  Gee, is this the badass, "we'll make fun of anything" duo we know so well?  They've depicted Jesus as a pansy, adulterous cussing wimp, and had a statue of Mary spewing blood out of her anus, but they felt the need to be respectful to Muslims?  I mean, come on, the situation was ripe for parody.  As Carlos Mencia put it, "I had people writing me saying, 'How DARE you say Islam is violent!  I will kill you for that!'"  Not to mention the humor that could be exploited in the fact that people are rioting over a bunch of CARTOONS.

But no, instead it ends with the terrorists responding by making a cartoon showing George Bush pooping.  Yeah, I'm sure in real life that's all they would do.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on January 13, 2010, 03:10:22 AM
I'm kind of wondering if at some point they'll show Islam the same way they did to Mormonism.  There are a few parallels between the two though, so maybe they don't want to repeat themselves.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on January 14, 2010, 01:40:02 PM

I liked the G.I. Joe movie.  I mean, yeah, I thought what they did with the Baroness was lame, but still, the movie did what it meant to do, have a lot of cool, if mindless action sequences. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on January 15, 2010, 08:49:29 PM
The Blues Brothers (1980) is boring.

There, I said it!  It feels good to get that off my chest.

A few parts are okay, but, overall the  movie is overrated.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on January 15, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
The Blues Brothers (1980) is boring.

There, I said it!  It feels good to get that off my chest.

A few parts are okay, but, overall the  movie is overrated.

Yea, everyone says its one of the DEFINING comedies of the 80's, but I just dont think its all that funny. Nice music, but didnt really make me laugh.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 16, 2010, 08:52:46 AM
The Blues Brothers (1980) is boring.

There, I said it!  It feels good to get that off my chest.

A few parts are okay, but, overall the  movie is overrated.

Yea, everyone says its one of the DEFINING comedies of the 80's, but I just dont think its all that funny. Nice music, but didnt really make me laugh.

Yeah, I liked it but I swear I never laughed once. Not once.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Javakoala on January 16, 2010, 09:16:10 PM
The Blues Brothers (1980) is boring.

There, I said it!  It feels good to get that off my chest.

A few parts are okay, but, overall the  movie is overrated.

Yea, everyone says its one of the DEFINING comedies of the 80's, but I just dont think its all that funny. Nice music, but didnt really make me laugh.

Yeah, I liked it but I swear I never laughed once. Not once.

I'll get in on that one.  I sat with a bunch of people who were tittering and quoting the movie and laughing like a scored laugh track. When it was over, someone asked what I thought. "I want that time back, and I want it back now!" I ended up sleeping outside that night.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 16, 2010, 09:24:29 PM
One of the better episodes.  The writers at Family Guy were apparently 'very happy' with the turnout and now refer to their cutaway gags as "Manatee gags" as a result. 

You know, I think that was a puss-out episode to be honest.  I mean, the whole issue of the cartoon showing Mohammad and how certain Muslims were reacting to it was RIPE with material for satire, but instead they turn the whole episode (well, two episodes) into a "bash Family Guy" piece (in fact, they even REPEAT the statement about the flashbacks not being related to the plot in BOTH episodes.)

For all the bashing South Park does of Christianity, Catholicism and Judaism in general, for some reason they pretty much treated Islam with kid gloves.  Gee, is this the badass, "we'll make fun of anything" duo we know so well?  They've depicted Jesus as a pansy, adulterous cussing wimp, and had a statue of Mary spewing blood out of her anus, but they felt the need to be respectful to Muslims?  I mean, come on, the situation was ripe for parody.  As Carlos Mencia put it, "I had people writing me saying, 'How DARE you say Islam is violent!  I will kill you for that!'"  Not to mention the humor that could be exploited in the fact that people are rioting over a bunch of CARTOONS.

But no, instead it ends with the terrorists responding by making a cartoon showing George Bush pooping.  Yeah, I'm sure in real life that's all they would do.
They weren't going out to satire Islam.  They were satirizing the fact that every network has no problem allowing Christianity or Judaism to be made fun of, but it's almost a crime to go after Islam.  Which is why in the episode several times Jesus gets mentioned but Mohammed isn't. 

And they also wanted to just go after Family Guy too, as they hate that show, for good reason.

I'm sure they themselves have no problem going after Muslims or Islam, but Comedy Central does.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 17, 2010, 10:01:42 PM
This seems to be against the grain a bit, but here goes:

I hated the movie The Hangover.  Big hit last summer, made like, $500 Million.  I hated it.  Watched it on On Demand today.  Laughed once, during the whole 2 hour unedited director's cut.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 17, 2010, 10:04:26 PM
I not only like Beverly Hills Cop 3 but think its equal to it's predecessors in entertainment value.  Maybe even a little more so. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 17, 2010, 10:28:24 PM
I not only like Beverly Hills Cop 3 but think its equal to it's predecessors in entertainment value.  Maybe even a little more so. 
I can top that:  I liked Norbit.

I even have the dvd.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 17, 2010, 10:38:24 PM
I loved Last Action Hero. It had its shortcomings, but as an action movie parody, it was great.

I would also put Payback in my top three Mel Gibson movies.

And I thought Hudson Hawk was a lot of fun.

And Ishtar made me laugh.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 18, 2010, 07:38:51 AM
No one believes me but my favourite film of all time is a martial arts action thriller ~ Steve Carver's An Eye For An Eye.  :smile:

I also liked Hudson Hawk ~ not much wrong with a film which taught me to appreciate cappuchino coffee.  :drink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 20, 2010, 09:10:20 PM
Pizza Hut, making pizza in short time and is DISGUSTING!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on January 21, 2010, 12:49:51 AM
I enjoyed Batman and Robin and Batman Forever.  They weren't as good as the first Keaton movie or Returns, but they were fairly fun.  I hated Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. I thought they were overlong and far too serious, draining all the fun out of the premises. 

On the subject of newer versions of old properties, I didn't much care for Peter Jackson's King Kong either. 

I don't find Angelina Jolie attractive at all.  Seriously, that is a rather hideous face.   

I never really felt South Park was funny. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: retrorussell on January 21, 2010, 01:20:09 AM
I didn't think much of South Park: The Movie.  Since I'm not a fan of musicals to begin with I didn't like sitting through all of the songs.

I also find Julia Roberts hideous.  I mean, it looks like she was a victim of The Joker's Smylex gas.  That mouth wraps across half her head!

I never liked Rocky Horror Picture Show.
I don't much care for the Coen Brothers' movies.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 21, 2010, 01:44:31 AM
Pizza Hut, making pizza in short time and is DISGUSTING!


Try these guys, Bull: best pizza on the planet. www.debonairs.co.za (http://www.debonairs.co.za)  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: paula on January 21, 2010, 03:03:22 AM
Pizza Hut, making pizza in short time and is DISGUSTING!


Try these guys, Bull: best pizza on the planet. [url=http://www.debonairs.co.za]www.debonairs.co.za[/url] ([url]http://www.debonairs.co.za[/url])  :smile:


looks GREAT, but what is the fat content??  esp. the one with cream cheese BETWEEN two slices?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 21, 2010, 03:08:03 AM
Pizza Hut, making pizza in short time and is DISGUSTING!


Try these guys, Bull: best pizza on the planet. [url=http://www.debonairs.co.za]www.debonairs.co.za[/url] ([url]http://www.debonairs.co.za[/url])  :smile:


looks GREAT, but what is the fat content??  esp. the one with cream cheese BETWEEN two slices?


Ummm.....  [Trevor grabs spare tyre around his waist  :buggedout: :buggedout:] I have no idea.  :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on January 21, 2010, 08:03:46 AM
I loved Last Action Hero. It had its shortcomings, but as an action movie parody, it was great.

And I thought Hudson Hawk was a lot of fun.

Agreed on both counts!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 21, 2010, 08:23:20 AM
I've pointed this out before in other threads, but I don't like brat pack movies from the 80s.  I actually find them quite dull. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 21, 2010, 08:25:13 AM
looks GREAT, but what is the fat content??  esp. the one with cream cheese BETWEEN two slices?

The one that intrigues me is the pizza with sausages rolled in the crust. Now, if they could just combine that with the double-layer cream cheese crust, they'd really have something.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 21, 2010, 09:14:12 AM
I've pointed this out before in other threads, but I don't like brat pack movies from the 80s.  I actually find them quite dull. 

 :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on January 21, 2010, 09:26:02 AM
The one that intrigues me is the pizza with sausages rolled in the crust. Now, if they could just combine that with the double-layer cream cheese crust, they'd really have something.
Yup: heart-attack-in-a-pan.  My husband does not need to know these possibilities (sausage rolled in the crust; cream cheese sandwiched) exist! 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 21, 2010, 11:43:57 AM
The one that intrigues me is the pizza with sausages rolled in the crust. Now, if they could just combine that with the double-layer cream cheese crust, they'd really have something.
Yup: heart-attack-in-a-pan.  My husband does not need to know these possibilities (sausage rolled in the crust; cream cheese sandwiched) exist! 

Can you imagine combining South African and Canadian fast food technology? You'd have a triple-decker, sausage crust, cream cheese filled, poutine pizza with six kinds of bacon on it. Oh, and you'd get two for one. It would need a warning on the box, not to mention a Pepto Bismol combo deal.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 21, 2010, 10:37:28 PM
Despite the "Mystery" ingredients and despite what people tell me: I quite like Scrapple.  Tastes good.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 21, 2010, 10:45:54 PM
Haggis is delicious.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Pilgermann on January 22, 2010, 01:49:58 AM
The Velvet Undergounrd & Nico isn't that great of an album.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 22, 2010, 02:34:34 AM
Hey Pilgermann, what happened to your little green running guy? I miss the little bugger.  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on January 22, 2010, 10:22:18 AM
Hey Pilgermann, what happened to your little green running guy? I miss the little bugger.  :bluesad:

Ya know, now that ya bring it up, I do too. For where art thou, little bugger man?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Pilgermann on January 22, 2010, 01:22:20 PM
Hey Pilgermann, what happened to your little green running guy? I miss the little bugger.  :bluesad:
Hey Pilgermann, what happened to your little green running guy? I miss the little bugger.  :bluesad:

Ya know, now that ya bring it up, I do too. For where art thou, little bugger man?

Aw, OK, he's back and now Mothra's chasing him.  Too much signature action?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on January 22, 2010, 02:10:56 PM
Hey Pilgermann, what happened to your little green running guy? I miss the little bugger.  :bluesad:
Hey Pilgermann, what happened to your little green running guy? I miss the little bugger.  :bluesad:

Ya know, now that ya bring it up, I do too. For where art thou, little bugger man?

Aw, OK, he's back and now Mothra's chasing him.  Too much signature action?

Not at all! In fact, Now the little Cactus Jack has a REASON to run! You've given his life a PORPOSE!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on January 22, 2010, 05:28:50 PM
That re-imagined Battlestar Galactica show, and all of it's umpteen spinoffs.  Everybody seems to love that thing - I can't stand it.  If that's all that's left of humanity, the Cylons probably should wipe us out.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 22, 2010, 05:29:48 PM
I loathe MST3K


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 22, 2010, 05:40:07 PM
I prefer short hair on women.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 22, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
Sigh...hard one for me to admit but I actually found the Andy Dick show on MTV pretty funny.   :bluesad: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGgN8n5gpwI


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 22, 2010, 08:56:57 PM
I loathe MST3K
Just stab a guy in the back why don't ya?

Whaaa?  How?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 22, 2010, 11:01:12 PM
REALLY HATE 009 Sound System Trinity song :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on January 23, 2010, 02:30:31 AM
I prefer short hair on women.

I'm the same way.  I also like brunettes. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 23, 2010, 02:33:26 AM
looks GREAT, but what is the fat content??  esp. the one with cream cheese BETWEEN two slices?
The one that intrigues me is the pizza with sausages rolled in the crust. Now, if they could just combine that with the double-layer cream cheese crust, they'd really have something.

I speak from experience when I say that the pizza with the sausages in the crust is great. Not to be eaten too often, but it is nice.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: paula on January 23, 2010, 02:49:08 AM
I prefer short hair on women.

I'm the same way.  I also like brunettes. :teddyr:

.....i don't think i can talk to you guys anymore.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 23, 2010, 02:52:23 AM
I prefer short hair on women.

I'm the same way.  I also like brunettes. :teddyr:

.....i don't think i can talk to you guys anymore.

I love women. Full stop. Their hair colour has nothing to do with it.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 23, 2010, 08:05:45 AM
I prefer short hair on women.

I'm the same way.  I also like brunettes. :teddyr:

I've seen some stunning ladies in every colour (most natural, some not) and length (from floor length to cueball), but I have to agree, short brunette hair looks best to me in general. Sorry Paula.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on January 23, 2010, 03:00:57 PM
I don't loathe MST3K but I do feel it's dumb humour...the type almost any hack can do and I'm sure almost all of us posting here have done similar from time to time and I suspect many can probably do it far better than these guys. It's easy to pick apart most low budget B-movie after all. What I find funny is most modern day blockbusters are every bit as deserving of mockery if not moreso. Thing is, talking back at a movie well does come off as, well...rude.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on January 24, 2010, 10:22:53 AM

Okay, how about THIS for against the grain? 

I LIKE watching The O'Reilly Factor.  I don't always agree with the guy, and I think he takes some stories way too seriously (and sometimes personally), but I like that he states his opinions directly, is not afraid to put on people who disagree with him, and that he stands up for stories and causes most of the media tends to ignore, and, unlike a certain other notable news commentator on another station, he doesn't try and boost sagging ratings by insulting his competitors.

There, I said it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 24, 2010, 12:07:45 PM
I absolutely can not stand Phil Collins or anything he's involved in.  Same thing goes for Bruce Hornsby.  To me these two are the equivalent of musical paint drying on a wall. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 24, 2010, 12:15:31 PM
Rush Limbaugh, do I have to say more?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 24, 2010, 12:17:59 PM
Rush Limbaugh, do I have to say more?

Well yeah. Do you like the guy or dislike the guy, otherwise how is it that you're "going against the grain"?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 24, 2010, 12:25:19 PM
Rush Limbaugh, do I have to say more?

Well yeah. Do you like the guy or dislike the guy, otherwise how is it that you're "going against the grain"?

he's a big jerk who says Global Warming is a hoax. i want to get a chainsaw and slaughter him  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 24, 2010, 12:26:14 PM
Rush Limbaugh, do I have to say more?

Well yeah. Do you like the guy or dislike the guy, otherwise how is it that you're "going against the grain"?

he's a big jerk who says Global Warming is a hoax. i want to get a chainsaw and slaughter him  :hatred:

Then you're most certainly going with the grain.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on January 24, 2010, 03:15:30 PM
Then I will go against the grain and say this:

However abrasive his on-air persona may be, he is right more often than he is wrong.

(Ducks shower of thrown rocks)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on January 24, 2010, 03:54:19 PM

Okay, how about THIS for against the grain? 

I LIKE watching The O'Reilly Factor.  I don't always agree with the guy, and I think he takes some stories way too seriously (and sometimes personally), but I like that he states his opinions directly, is not afraid to put on people who disagree with him, and that he stands up for stories and causes most of the media tends to ignore, and, unlike a certain other notable news commentator on another station, he doesn't try and boost sagging ratings by insulting his competitors.

There, I said it.

O'Reilly is a gigantic, self-aggrandizing ***hole, but sometimes I like him too.  He's the only pundit on Fox who I think can be convinced by a reasonable argument against his current opinion (that is to say, he actually listens and considers what people have to say, some of the time at least).  He has admitted he was wrong about things, generally sticks to his word, and weasels less than most.

I might add that he DOES insult lots of people, including his competitors.  Usually not quite as directly as someone like Olberman though. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 24, 2010, 07:32:53 PM

Okay, how about THIS for against the grain? 

I LIKE watching The O'Reilly Factor.  I don't always agree with the guy, and I think he takes some stories way too seriously (and sometimes personally), but I like that he states his opinions directly, is not afraid to put on people who disagree with him, and that he stands up for stories and causes most of the media tends to ignore, and, unlike a certain other notable news commentator on another station, he doesn't try and boost sagging ratings by insulting his competitors.

There, I said it.

O'Reilly is a gigantic, self-aggrandizing ***hole, but sometimes I like him too.  He's the only pundit on Fox who I think can be convinced by a reasonable argument against his current opinion (that is to say, he actually listens and considers what people have to say, some of the time at least).  He has admitted he was wrong about things, generally sticks to his word, and weasels less than most.

I might add that he DOES insult lots of people, including his competitors.  Usually not quite as directly as someone like Olberman though. 

I don't like him on his TV show at all, but I've listened to his radio show a few times and I find he's more thoughtful, reasonable, and moderate.  I suspect he purposefully plays up the obnoxiousness for TV ratings, but the radio shows his real personality more.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 24, 2010, 07:33:37 PM
I absolutely can not stand Phil Collins or anything he's involved in.  Same thing goes for Bruce Hornsby.  To me these two are the equivalent of musical paint drying on a wall. 

That's against the grain?  God help us...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 24, 2010, 08:34:57 PM
I absolutely can not stand Phil Collins or anything he's involved in.  Same thing goes for Bruce Hornsby.  To me these two are the equivalent of musical paint drying on a wall. 

That's against the grain?  God help us...
Perhaps you're right...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 24, 2010, 09:49:54 PM
Might be a little against the grain, so to speak, but:
I like some thrash metal, but I can't stand Megadeth and feel they're entirely overrated as a band. 

Also, I like rap to a certain extent and am not bothered at all when certain acts are inducted in the Hall of Fame.  I know it's called the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame", but it's just music and it's not really 'important' anyway.  Anyway, didn't most rock stem from R&B anyway, and rap is another form of it.  Especially earlier rap acts like Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC, Public Enemy, etc who actually made statements with their music, as opposed to say, 50 Cent who's all about 'Big cars, big chains, lots of ladies."

I absolutely can not stand Phil Collins or anything he's involved in.  Same thing goes for Bruce Hornsby.  To me these two are the equivalent of musical paint drying on a wall. 

That's against the grain?  God help us...
Believe it or not, I know A LOT of people who quite love Collins, his music, and his time in Genesis.  Me personally, well, outside of "In the Air Tonight" I don't like him.  Well, and "I Can't Dance" but for entirely different reasons.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 25, 2010, 02:38:54 AM
I personally loathe musicians who stated on their albums during the 1980's that "_______________ is totally opposed to South Africa and apartheid" but still allowed their music to be sold and played here.  :question:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 25, 2010, 03:45:18 AM
I love Phil Collins


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on January 25, 2010, 04:01:12 AM
Nickelback- Boring and uninspired generic rock.  Totally overrated.

Linkin Park- Just irritating.  Chester can sing, sure, but the instrumental music sucks, the lyrics suck, and the subject matter is eyeroll-tastic.

Animal Farm- Metaphorically significant, but a boring book.

RA Salvatore- Not as bad of an author as some people claim.

Amadeus- A very boring movie.

Fox News- I don't know if saying it's ridiculous trash is really against the grain, but yeah...

Sarah Palin- I don't get the hype.  I still think she's an idiot, no matter how much PR has tried to help her.

The idea of things being "meant to happen" or "happening for a reason"- Delusional.

The Simpsons- Better than Family Guy, and always will be. (although I still like Family Guy)

Heroes- Sucks after season 1. 

Inferno- I like it, but I think it's Argento's most overrated film.  It's not as awesome as some people make it sound.

Manhunter- Not as good as Red Dragon.

Edit: added a few more

Bad Girls Club- One of the worst shows on television.

Project Runway- Okay, so I'm going to let out a dark secret right here.  It's kind of a guilty pleasure... .... ... I like this show.  I watch it with my fiancee.  I like seeing some of the things people come up with when thrust into uncommon clothing making situations.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 25, 2010, 04:52:33 AM
Manhunter- Not as good as Red Dragon.

WOW!  :buggedout: I need to go lay down....


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 25, 2010, 05:27:07 AM
Manhunter- Not as good as Red Dragon.

WOW!  :buggedout: I need to go lay down....

My opinion: in visual terms, Manhunter was way better than Red Dragon but I think those two films had the same cameraman, Dante Spinotti.

Checks IMDB:  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Saucerman on January 25, 2010, 07:05:35 AM
I like the Anna Nicole Show. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 25, 2010, 09:18:41 AM
I personally loathe musicians who stated on their albums during the 1980's that "_______________ is totally opposed to South Africa and apartheid" but still allowed their music to be sold and played here.  :question:

I can appreciate that, but in their defence, the media in the rest of the world didn't exactly give a complete picture of the country or the issues there. A lot of us, at the time, got all of our knowledge of South Africa from tightly focused and oversimplified news reports, outspoken celebrities (great source of information there :lookingup:), and Lethal Weapon 2. If I hadn't met a few really nice countrymen of yours in the intervening years, I probably would still have held the viewpoint of a North American teenager in the 1980s.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 25, 2010, 09:47:22 AM
I've often gotten myself into serious doodoo with an opinion like this, but I also loathe filmmakers who make films about SA's supposedly unique past and those same filmmakers conveniently choose to conveniently ignore the problems in their own countries. People that can be named and shamed here would be Richard Cry FreedomAttenborough, Chris A World ApartMenges, Richard Lethal Weapon 2 Donner, Euzhan A Dry White SeasonPalcy, RalphThe Wilby Conspiracy Nelson, John The Power Of OneAvildsen and many others.

If I were to make a film in the USA, Britain or Australia about black marks on their historical pages there would be no limit to the amount of ass-kicking I would get and quite rightly so ~ it isn't my history, so I should tell my own stories.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 25, 2010, 04:54:43 PM
Quote
RA Salvatore- Not as bad of an author as some people claim.
I had some high school friends that were big into his writing.  They met him at a signingand said he was a great guy.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 25, 2010, 09:34:41 PM
Budweiser- I think it's the best tasting beer on the market.  I'll be damned if anyone says otherwise.

Kid Rock- I think he's quite talented.  That's a bit of a taboo, apparently.

Mortal Kombat: The Movie- Thought it was a pretty decent adaption of the game series, granted, they only had about 2-3 games at the time so it was a bit easier to do a flick.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 25, 2010, 09:52:33 PM
Budweiser- I think it's the best tasting beer on the market.  I'll be damned if anyone says otherwise.


Consider yourself damned.   :wink:  Even among mass-marketed American lagers, I prefer Miller, the champagne of beers!  :cheers:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 25, 2010, 10:19:48 PM
Budweiser- I think it's the best tasting beer on the market.  I'll be damned if anyone says otherwise.


Consider yourself damned.   :wink:  Even among mass-marketed American lagers, I prefer Miller, the champagne of beers!  :cheers:
Miller is better than Coors, but I don't like the taste.  Makes me wanna puke.  Even if I have just one.  Of all the beers out there I've tried, all have tasted horrible to me except Budweiser.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 25, 2010, 10:43:33 PM
Budweiser- I think it's the best tasting beer on the market.  I'll be damned if anyone says otherwise.


Consider yourself damned.   :wink:  Even among mass-marketed American lagers, I prefer Miller, the champagne of beers!  :cheers:
Miller is better than Coors, but I don't like the taste.  Makes me wanna puke.  Even if I have just one.  Of all the beers out there I've tried, all have tasted horrible to me except Budweiser.

then you had never tried Sweet water beer


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: hellbilly on January 26, 2010, 12:20:28 AM
Chicken wings - has always been my least favorite. They are too small and don't provide enough meat. It puzzles me why people love chicken wings.

TV - I gave up on TV many years ago. I got tired of annoying and smart ass commercials and shows. I hated to see my favorite movies edited and interrupted by ads. I never cared for X-Files or Buffy etc. I did enjoy some of The Simpsons but it got boring after 3 years. TV in the 80s was much more fun.

(New) Musicals - I could only watch Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007) subtitled without audio. It took me two years to finish Hairspray (2007). I don't have a problem with older musicals but for some reason the new ones are like torture.

Remakes - I like them and enjoy most of them.

"Say something nice about the person above you" threads - I rather hand out compliments in a more "unforced" manner. I have always disliked those kind of threads, they make me cringe big time  :lookingup:



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on January 26, 2010, 12:21:50 AM
I just really don't find Angelina Jolie that sexy.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 26, 2010, 12:11:41 PM
I just really don't find Angelina Jolie that sexy.
I'm the same way about Jennifer Anniston. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: 3mnkids on January 26, 2010, 01:22:10 PM
I enjoy cleaning.  :teddyr:   I didn't really realize how much until last night when the coffee maker malfunction and coffee was all over the counter. I thought to myself yeah, something to clean   :lookingup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 26, 2010, 01:22:58 PM
I enjoy cleaning.  :teddyr:   I didn't really realize how much until last night when the coffee maker malfunction and coffee was all over the counter. I thought to myself yeah, something to clean   :lookingup:

Me too, an I'm a dude!  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 26, 2010, 01:36:54 PM
I enjoy cleaning.  :teddyr:   I didn't really realize how much until last night when the coffee maker malfunction and coffee was all over the counter. I thought to myself yeah, something to clean   :lookingup:

You would love living with me!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 26, 2010, 01:38:25 PM
I enjoy cleaning.  :teddyr:   I didn't really realize how much until last night when the coffee maker malfunction and coffee was all over the counter. I thought to myself yeah, something to clean   :lookingup:

You would love living with me!

count me in, err out, i love to wash cars  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 26, 2010, 01:42:22 PM
I enjoy cleaning.  :teddyr:   I didn't really realize how much until last night when the coffee maker malfunction and coffee was all over the counter. I thought to myself yeah, something to clean   :lookingup:

Me too, an I'm a dude!  :teddyr:

If either of you find yourselves in Ontario, feel free to drop by. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on January 26, 2010, 02:37:01 PM
I just really don't find Angelina Jolie that sexy.

I thought she was pretty attractive before she started going for the Skeletor look.  But now..  Not so much.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 26, 2010, 02:39:42 PM
I just really don't find Angelina Jolie that sexy.


I thought she was pretty attractive before she started going for the Skeletor look.  But now..  Not so much.


HOT:
(http://www.hot.ee/devilishangel/hair2.jpg)
(http://staging.radaronline.com/exclusives//images/2006/11/jolie_gia_cap_fresh.jpg)

NOT:
(http://media.rd.com/rd/images/rdc/mag0706/angelina-jolie-mother-01-af.jpg)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Ash on January 27, 2010, 01:35:39 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie Titanic and still enjoy it to this day.   :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 27, 2010, 09:20:23 AM
This may not be completely against the grain, but:
I am one of the few people I know who likes Jerry Lee Lewis, and while his personal life may have overshadowed his musical talents, he's a very underrated performer.  Mind you, I may not like his 'personal' life as far as the whole marrying a 13 year old relative, but from all the videos I've seen, he was a charismatic showman with a bunch of good songs to boot.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on January 27, 2010, 12:57:03 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie Titanic and still enjoy it to this day.   :thumbup:

Didnt that movie make like a zillion dollars and won like a billion awards? How is this quote "against the grain" unquote?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 27, 2010, 01:56:05 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie Titanic and still enjoy it to this day.   :thumbup:

Didnt that movie make like a zillion dollars and won like a billion awards? How is this quote "against the grain" unquote?

I'd say it's definitely against the grain in this crowd.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: WingedSerpent on January 27, 2010, 02:29:54 PM
I don't drink anything alcoholic (I can't stand the taste of it)

I found Avatar mediocre.

I liked Jurassic Park: Lost World and JP 3.

I hate football, and golf.  Instead, I like fencing.

Irate Gamer is better that the Angry Video Game Nerd. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on January 27, 2010, 02:31:58 PM
I don't drink anything alcoholic (I can't stand the taste of it)

I found Avatar mediocre.

I liked Jurassic Park: Lost World and JP 3.

I hate football, and golf.  Instead, I like fencing.

Picket or chainlink? :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Cthulhu on January 27, 2010, 02:34:22 PM
I just really don't find Angelina Jolie that sexy.


I thought she was pretty attractive before she started going for the Skeletor look.  But now..  Not so much.


HOT:
([url]http://www.hot.ee/devilishangel/hair2.jpg[/url])
([url]http://staging.radaronline.com/exclusives//images/2006/11/jolie_gia_cap_fresh.jpg[/url])

NOT:
([url]http://media.rd.com/rd/images/rdc/mag0706/angelina-jolie-mother-01-af.jpg[/url])

True that.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: WingedSerpent on January 27, 2010, 02:35:14 PM


I hate football, and golf.  Instead, I like fencing.

Picket or chainlink? :tongueout:

Foil.  I'm trying to earn my rating before moving on to epee.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on January 27, 2010, 07:32:50 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie Titanic and still enjoy it to this day.   :thumbup:

Didnt that movie make like a zillion dollars and won like a billion awards? How is this quote "against the grain" unquote?

I'd say it's definitely against the grain in this crowd.

True that.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on January 27, 2010, 08:54:05 PM
Hmmm. Against the grain with this crowd. Let's see:

I like Barry Manilow's music.
I like Phil Collins reasonably well. I even own one Genesis album featuring Collins.
I dislike the Terminator movies. Good effects, bad internal logic.
I don't care about most video games (Zelda rules, though  :teddyr: ).
The older I get the worse The Doors' lyrics seem.
I don't like The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin or Fleetwood Mac.
I love many of the older Hollywood musicals.
With the exception of his time in The Traveling Wilburys, Bob Dylan is worthless to me.
In the movie, Deckard is never shown in any way to be a replicant.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 27, 2010, 09:14:31 PM
Avatar!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on January 27, 2010, 09:22:57 PM
Avatar!

NOW yer gettin' it!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 28, 2010, 09:13:04 PM
I've tried watching Who Framed Roger Rabbit several times and always ended up getting sick of it and turning it off.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 28, 2010, 09:53:36 PM
the last season of DBZ


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 28, 2010, 10:31:37 PM
Hmmm. Against the grain with this crowd. Let's see:


I don't like The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin or Fleetwood Mac.

I disagree about the Stones, agree about the others.  I quite like The Stones, but can see how others dislike em. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on January 28, 2010, 10:50:09 PM
I don't care for most American beers.  I also don't really care for Corona.  Anything that you need a lime to cover up the crappy taste is not worth drinking.

I don't get excited about cars like some people do.  I don't gawk at nice, expensive cars like some people do.

Same thing with monster trucks.  They don't interest me at all.

I didn't think the Dreamcast was really that great of a system.  It had a few good games and some nice sleepers, but a lot of games on it were mediocre or disappointing.

I thought Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was awful.  I was excited to rent it because everyone said it was the best in the series.

I actually enjoyed the film version of Beyond the Wall of Sleep, but mostly in a so-bad-it's-good kind of way.

Most pop music sounds like elevator music with a bigger budget to me.

I think Seth MacFarlane's humor is starting to run dry.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 28, 2010, 10:51:38 PM
i hate Clowns for some reason (except for Circus)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: hellbilly on January 29, 2010, 12:11:12 AM

I thought Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was awful.  I was excited to rent it because everyone said it was the best in the series.



I must be hanging with the wrong crowd because everyone told me it was the worst in the series. However, I quite like TCM2 and its my fave of the series.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 29, 2010, 12:14:58 AM
THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on January 29, 2010, 01:34:07 AM

I thought Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was awful.  I was excited to rent it because everyone said it was the best in the series.



I must be hanging with the wrong crowd because everyone told me it was the worst in the series. However, I quite like TCM2 and its my fave of the series.

I got just the opposite from a lot of my horror friends.  Many of them called it the best in the series.  A few of them wondered what I was smoking when I said it was godawful. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 29, 2010, 07:26:11 AM

I thought Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was awful.  I was excited to rent it because everyone said it was the best in the series.

I must be hanging with the wrong crowd because everyone told me it was the worst in the series. However, I quite like TCM2 and its my fave of the series.

I got just the opposite from a lot of my horror friends.  Many of them called it the best in the series.  A few of them wondered what I was smoking when I said it was godawful. 

I thought TCM3 was the worst.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on January 29, 2010, 07:55:18 AM
I thought the TCM remake with Jessica Beil was awesome.  Of course I also really liked the remake of The Hills Have Eyes part 2.  Don't worry, those are about the only two remakes in the last five years that I've got ANYTHING good to say about.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 29, 2010, 09:30:54 AM
I prefer the goopy nacho cheese made from water and powder over real cheese. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 29, 2010, 09:57:37 AM
I thought Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was awful.  I was excited to rent it because everyone said it was the best in the series.


Me, personally, well, I wouldn't say it's the 'best' of the series, but it's my personal favorite in the bunch.  I thought it was better than the first in some degrees.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 29, 2010, 10:01:05 AM

I thought Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was awful.  I was excited to rent it because everyone said it was the best in the series.


I must be hanging with the wrong crowd because everyone told me it was the worst in the series. However, I quite like TCM2 and its my fave of the series.


I got just the opposite from a lot of my horror friends.  Many of them called it the best in the series.  A few of them wondered what I was smoking when I said it was godawful. 


I thought TCM3 was the worst.

I'd say the worst one is: Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Next Generation.  Stars Renee Zellwegger and Matthew McConaughy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Chainsaw_Massacre:_The_Next_Generation

God Awful.  In fact, the first one I saw and damn near turned me off to the entire franchise til a friend showed me parts 1 and 2.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on January 29, 2010, 05:07:54 PM

I thought Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 was awful.  I was excited to rent it because everyone said it was the best in the series.

I must be hanging with the wrong crowd because everyone told me it was the worst in the series. However, I quite like TCM2 and its my fave of the series.

I got just the opposite from a lot of my horror friends.  Many of them called it the best in the series.  A few of them wondered what I was smoking when I said it was godawful. 

I thought TCM3 was the worst.

Well, both are pretty bad.  Still haven't see TCM: Next Generation, but after seeing the trailer I don't feel I need to.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 29, 2010, 05:18:15 PM
Still haven't see TCM: Next Generation, but after seeing the trailer I don't feel I need to.

I don't even class anything past the third film as part of the series.

Anyway, back to "against the grain"...  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on January 29, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
I think Dana Carvey is much more talented than Mike Myers.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 29, 2010, 10:24:03 PM
I think Dana Carvey is much more talented than Mike Myers.  
I'll second that.  Recently seen some standup Carvey did.  Funny, funny stuff. 

I think Myers is a good writer, to a degree.  But the Austin Powers series kinda became a one note gag as it went further along.  And the thing is, I only liked the Dr. Evil/Scott Evil characters in those movies. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Cthulhu on January 30, 2010, 08:17:39 AM
I don't like the song "War pigs".


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on February 03, 2010, 11:30:42 AM
I like Froasted Flakes and Captain Crunch better when they're slightly soggy, that's why when I'm eating them I'll try to "mix" them up, so every piece gets milk on it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 03, 2010, 11:55:27 AM
I am not a big fan of chocolate.  Granted I like M&Ms and Peanut Butter Cups but all chocolate bars I can pretty much do without.   


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 03, 2010, 01:05:29 PM
I think Dana Carvey is much more talented than Mike Myers.  

I can agree with that. He's a funny comedian - sketch and standup - and a very talented impersonator. I think The Master of Disguise is a highly underrated movie, which in itself is against the grain. Sure, the story is kind of dumb, but it's a great showcase of Carvey's talent. And for being totally made up on the spot, his SNL audition is hilarious.

Myers seems to have exhausted his supply of gags and characters. He's still drawing on the same sources for his humour as he was 20 years ago, and it's getting much harder to keep it fresh. If anything, it's getting dumber. And frankly, I can't remember the last time he appeared in something without a costume and a funny voice. Was it "So I Married an Axe Murderer?" If so, he hasn't even just plain acted in over 20 years.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: RCMerchant on February 03, 2010, 01:42:05 PM
I loathe the ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW.
I dislike seafood...unless it's deepfried. Like shrimp and....uh...some fish. Love fresh water fish! (Live in Michigan) buit even that needs to be battered and fried.
I don't play video games. I usta play some many moons ago...but I suck.
I think Dan Akroyd has no talent whatsoever.
the GODFATHER bores me.
STAR WARS sucks! ALL of them!!!
STAR TREK puked after the original series.
I have never seen any of the ROCKY films.
I have never seen any of the LOTR films-or the Harry Potter films.NEVER WILL.
I like the INNER SANCTUM films with Lon Chaney Jr. (that's a little obscure,I guess...)
I LOVE the Bowery Boys!
I can't stand Adam Sandler.
I like fat girls!  :twirl:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: the ghoul on February 03, 2010, 01:55:01 PM
I love the taste of cough medicine.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 03, 2010, 01:57:44 PM
I love the taste of cough medicine.
i love the taste of cough drops


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 03, 2010, 02:25:12 PM
I LOVE the Bowery Boys!
I can't stand Adam Sandler.
I like fat girls!  :twirl:

My opinion varies on the other points, but the last three seem perfectly reasonable to me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 03, 2010, 02:54:19 PM
Another...

I don't like Campbell's chicken noodle soup, nor really any canned chicken noodle soup.  To me, it tastes like chicken-dirtied water with slimy noodles and pieces of chicken-flavored lint.  Not a fan. :thumbdown:

I do, however, like the Lipton chicken noodle soup that comes in a box, but only the one with the diced pieces of chicken.  I've been told a lot of people hate this soup...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 03, 2010, 07:31:04 PM
I can't stand many modern game shows like Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Deal Or No Deal, etc.  The bullsh*t they pull to stretch out one hour is despicable.

I think TLC is a repulsive station that gives names to people with no apparent talent other than squeezing multiple kids out of their hoo-haws. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 03, 2010, 07:36:35 PM
KISS-they can't sing, they're famous for the face paint, the are overrated


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 03, 2010, 08:48:18 PM
KISS-they can't sing, they're famous for the face paint, the are overrated


ooooo, you better hope Circus duzznt read that.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Saucerman on February 03, 2010, 09:00:13 PM
I loathe the ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW.
I dislike seafood...unless it's deepfried. Like shrimp and....uh...some fish. Love fresh water fish! (Live in Michigan) buit even that needs to be battered and fried.
I don't play video games. I usta play some many moons ago...but I suck.
I think Dan Akroyd has no talent whatsoever.
the GODFATHER bores me.
STAR WARS sucks! ALL of them!!!
STAR TREK puked after the original series.
I have never seen any of the ROCKY films.
I have never seen any of the LOTR films-or the Harry Potter films.NEVER WILL.
I like the INNER SANCTUM films with Lon Chaney Jr. (that's a little obscure,I guess...)
I LOVE the Bowery Boys!
I can't stand Adam Sandler.
I like fat girls!  :twirl:

I like the cut of your jib, good sir! Especially on that last point! A toast! :cheers:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 03, 2010, 10:07:25 PM
KISS-they can't sing, they're famous for the face paint, the are overrated


ooooo, you better hope Circus duzznt read that.

we don't agree on stuff, but Europe is BETTER!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 03, 2010, 10:34:55 PM
I think Dana Carvey is much more talented than Mike Myers.  

I can agree with that. He's a funny comedian - sketch and standup - and a very talented impersonator. I think The Master of Disguise is a highly underrated movie, which in itself is against the grain. Sure, the story is kind of dumb, but it's a great showcase of Carvey's talent. And for being totally made up on the spot, his SNL audition is hilarious.

Myers seems to have exhausted his supply of gags and characters. He's still drawing on the same sources for his humour as he was 20 years ago, and it's getting much harder to keep it fresh. If anything, it's getting dumber. And frankly, I can't remember the last time he appeared in something without a costume and a funny voice. Was it "So I Married an Axe Murderer?" If so, he hasn't even just plain acted in over 20 years.
Completely agree.  Although, he did ACT in a little film called 54.  It's the story of Studio 54, and he played one of the owners who ended up in jail.  But seeing as he didn't write it, and it wasn't a comedy, I think most people didn't see it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 03, 2010, 10:54:21 PM
I hate cheese.  Everything about it: smell, texture, taste, anything.  Don't like grilled cheese, pizza, lasagna, etc.  And I'm Italian...which shocks people as apparently we put cheese on everything.

I think Weird Al should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  (Apparently, so do a lot of people.  There's a petition, and even a write-up article in Rolling Stone.)  But there seems to be a lot of people against it too, as 'he's a comedian'. 

I don't really like the Hellraiser flicks at all. 

I dislike any Peter Jackson movie made after '96. 

I like Disney, but dislike Mickey Mouse.  (I'm a Donald Duck fan.)

Shopping at Hot Topic doesn't make you a 'punk.'  Just because a corporation tells you it is, doesn't mean they're telling the truth.  And the fact that these kids don't know 'real' punk and only know some corporate bullsh*t frightens me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 03, 2010, 11:15:53 PM
I can't stand many modern game shows like Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Deal Or No Deal, etc.  The bullsh*t they pull to stretch out one hour is despicable.

I think TLC is a repulsive station that gives names to people with no apparent talent other than squeezing multiple kids out of their hoo-haws. 

Yes. Completely agree. There hasn't been an entertaining new game show introduced in years. The fun has completely gone out of game shows, replaced by dull sameness and phony suspense. Give me The Price is Right any day. People playing a whole bunch of silly games on a flashy set to win appliances and cars and trips. Beats the hell out of somebody sitting in a chair in a dark studio answering questions to win what, from my point of view, is just a big number. I can look up lottery results if I want to see somebody win a large sum of money. Doesn't make for entertaining TV the way playing Plinko for a flashy new car does.

And don't get me started on TLC. Used to be one of my favourite channels. For a good part of the 90s, I watched little else. Now it's just a collection of cheap and annoying "reality" shows. And not just any reality shows, but perhaps the crappiest of a crappy genre. I try to avoid obnoxious people. I don't need them in my living room every day.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 03, 2010, 11:38:16 PM


Shopping at Hot Topic doesn't make you a 'punk.'  Just because a corporation tells you it is, doesn't mean they're telling the truth.  And the fact that these kids don't know 'real' punk and only know some corporate bullsh*t frightens me.

omygawd....please dont get me started on hot topic...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 04, 2010, 04:01:49 AM
KISS-they can't sing, they're famous for the face paint, the are overrated


ooooo, you better hope Circus duzznt read that.

we don't agree on stuff, but Europe is BETTER!

AHAHAHAH!  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 04, 2010, 04:12:19 AM
I can't stand many modern game shows like Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, Deal Or No Deal, etc.  The bullsh*t they pull to stretch out one hour is despicable.

I agree there: when SA had it's own version of these, I told the makers that if I were the editor, the show would be over in ten minutes tops. The music they use in WWTBAM is also irritating and the local host looked like he had an overdose of botox: no expression!  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 04, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
I'm just not that into modern first person shooters.  Give me the grainy world of Doom and Duke Nukem 3d any day. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 04, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
I'm just not that into modern first person shooters.  Give me the grainy world of Doom and Duke Nukem 3d any day. 

HUZZAH, to that, good sir!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 04, 2010, 07:28:48 PM
I absolutely can't stand earbud/earphones.  1.) They're uncomfortable and 2.) I have yet to find a pair that doesn't sound like I'm listening to music in a tin can.  Give me the bulky headphones any day. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 04, 2010, 09:38:07 PM
I absolutely can't stand earbud/earphones.  1.) They're uncomfortable and 2.) I have yet to find a pair that doesn't sound like I'm listening to music in a tin can.  Give me the bulky headphones any day. 

And they're always getting tangled. That's my number one beef with earbuds. Headphones don't have that problem.

I can't use the things either. They do get uncomfortable, and something about jamming things into your ear just seems unsanitary. Not to mention that they just don't reproduce the sound like real headphones. I personally own big, clunky, foam-padded, cover-the-ears headphones. They're comfortable and they sound good, and I can let somebody else listen to them without swapping earwax. They might look funny plugged into a tiny MP3 player, but there are some things you just can't make smaller without losing some of the benefits.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Paquita on February 04, 2010, 09:40:16 PM
Apparently, this is against the grain - I HATE Scooby Doo.  I can't explain it, I just hate it.  I tried to like it, I like the idea of stupid kids chasing monsters and solving crimes, but I HATE Scooby Doo.  Maybe it's because I hate hippies?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 04, 2010, 09:44:09 PM
Apparently, this is against the grain - I HATE Scooby Doo.  I can't explain it, I just hate it.  I tried to like it, I like the idea of stupid kids chasing monsters and solving crimes, but I HATE Scooby Doo.  Maybe it's because I hate hippies?
I'm...I'm...so saddened... :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Paquita on February 04, 2010, 09:46:09 PM
Apparently, this is against the grain - I HATE Scooby Doo.  I can't explain it, I just hate it.  I tried to like it, I like the idea of stupid kids chasing monsters and solving crimes, but I HATE Scooby Doo.  Maybe it's because I hate hippies?
I'm...I'm...so saddened... :bluesad:

I'm sorry.. really I am.  If it makes you feel better, I hate earbuds too.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 04, 2010, 09:46:39 PM
Apparently, this is against the grain - I HATE Scooby Doo.  I can't explain it, I just hate it.  I tried to like it, I like the idea of stupid kids chasing monsters and solving crimes, but I HATE Scooby Doo.  Maybe it's because I hate hippies?
I'm...I'm...so saddened... :bluesad:

I'm sorry.. really I am.  If it makes you feel better, I hate earbuds too.
:smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 04, 2010, 10:07:55 PM
Apparently, this is against the grain - I HATE Scooby Doo.  I can't explain it, I just hate it.  I tried to like it, I like the idea of stupid kids chasing monsters and solving crimes, but I HATE Scooby Doo.  Maybe it's because I hate hippies?
I'm...I'm...so saddened... :bluesad:

I'm sorry.. really I am.  If it makes you feel better, I hate earbuds too.

I ALSO hate earbuds, but every pair of REAL headphones that ive gotten recently have crapped out on me, so im stuck with 'em.
 :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 04, 2010, 10:27:16 PM
I absolutely can't stand earbud/earphones.  1.) They're uncomfortable and 2.) I have yet to find a pair that doesn't sound like I'm listening to music in a tin can.  Give me the bulky headphones any day. 
have you tried skullcandy Ink'd, they're the BEAST!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 04, 2010, 10:28:12 PM
Law and Order- kill'em boys


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 04, 2010, 10:39:51 PM


Shopping at Hot Topic doesn't make you a 'punk.'  Just because a corporation tells you it is, doesn't mean they're telling the truth.  And the fact that these kids don't know 'real' punk and only know some corporate bullsh*t frightens me.

omygawd....please dont get me started on hot topic...
Funny thing is, the store sells Lady Gaga cd's.  Mind you, I do like Lady Gaga, but the fact that a 'punk' themed store sells her sh*t to 14 year olds who think they should be going to the Warped Tour, yet has no clue who Bad Religion is frightens me.  Mind you, I'm just as likely to listen to Frank Sinatra as I am to The Misfits, but eh.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 04, 2010, 11:05:08 PM
There is absolutely, positively no whining allowed in METAL...period. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 04, 2010, 11:06:01 PM
There is absolutely, positively no whining allowed in METAL...period. 
:bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 05, 2010, 12:56:29 AM
There is absolutely, positively no whining allowed in METAL...period. 

Indeed.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: paula on February 05, 2010, 02:09:47 AM
hate Ipods.  just give me a cd for gods sake.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on February 05, 2010, 02:17:02 AM
I just find piercing anything but the ears to be vaguely creepy.  I mean, I look at the piercing and just inwardly shudder, wondering why anyone would want to do that to themselves. 

And I'm not even going to get into getting piercings "down below" if you get my drift.

(shudders violently)



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 05, 2010, 02:53:28 AM
hate Ipods.  just give me a cd for gods sake.

I agree. I have an MP3 player but that's it.

(I also have my vinyls still)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 05, 2010, 06:13:59 AM
I'm not against MP3 players, per se, but I don't like iPod.  Everyone thought I was crazy when I said I didn't want one because I thought they were overpriced.  I have a $50 Sony Walkman, and I love it.   :cheers:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 05, 2010, 09:13:08 AM
I just find piercing anything but the ears to be vaguely creepy.  I mean, I look at the piercing and just inwardly shudder, wondering why anyone would want to do that to themselves. 

And I'm not even going to get into getting piercings "down below" if you get my drift.

(shudders violently)

I know what you mean. I don't get this belief some people have that you should stick a piece of metal anywhere you can pinch together enough skin to punch a hole. And it's not like people are putting nice jewellery in there. It's all just plain stainless steel rings and rods that seem to serve no purpose other than keeping the hole open. I don't see the point. But I guess that's why they call it a piercing - seems to be more about just having a hole there than about what you put in it. And I really don't understand doing it in places where it can't possibly be comfortable. Like putting a ring through your lip that passes through your mouth. That would drive me nuts if I had one. Same with a tongue stud. And frankly, putting random bits of metal all over your face is not aesthetically pleasing, it's distracting. I think I'd rather have people paying attention to me than staring at something stuck in my nose or eyebrow.

But what is really against the grain - I don't really even like earrings. Some are OK, but I'm generally not crazy about seeing things dangling from people's ears. Women somewhat and guys definitely. I don't mean to offend anyone, but to me a guy wearing earrings is just weird. Women do that to themselves out of a longstanding custom and an expectation that women should have pierced ears. Why a guy would choose to do that when nobody expects it of him is beyond me.

And the number one thing about piercing I just don't get is people stretching out the holes by jamming larger and larger things in there. Fine if you're some kind of outlaw biker type, but I'm seeing this on normal middle-class teenagers. I've got nothing against kids experimenting with wild fashions and strange hairstyles. I think that's healthy. But kids today seem to be brought up with the notion that they'll be kids forever. Don't do anything to yourself that will require surgery to correct when you grow up and decide it wasn't such a great idea. Besides which, stretching your ears out of shape is just plain gross anywhere outside the African Savannah.

Teenagers get away with lots, but if you want to be taken seriously in the real world, you have to at least be able to clean up well. Hair can be changed, jewellery can be taken off. Grotesquely distorted earlobes and tattoos that can't be covered by a long-sleeved shirt can be a pretty serious impediment. If you're a grown adult and decide you can get away with it, fine. But what kind of parents let their teenagers make permanent changes to their appearance?

But then, I don't understand why some parents get their infant daughters' ears pierced. I've already made it known that my daughter is not allowed to have her ears pierced until she is at least 12. I don't understand why adults need earrings, but I definitely know that little kids don't. Thankfully, my wife agrees that getting pierced ears should be a voluntary rite of passage for a girl, not something automatic. She is trying to negotiate me down to 10 years old, however.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 05, 2010, 12:09:27 PM
Totally agreed on the piercing issue.  I think it was ridiculous when guys got diamond studs, now they look like they crawled out of some unknown tribe in the Amazon.  As for girls, I've seen some beautiful women totally destroyed with those silly looking lip piercings.  Keep it to the ears ladies.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 05, 2010, 12:21:12 PM
The only peircings that bother me are the big-plate sized ear-lode ones (those things gotta STENCH to 'em too)and those reely reely tiny onles girls get one the sides of their noses. they just look like zits to me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 05, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
The only peircings that bother me are the big-plate sized ear-lode ones (those things gotta STENCH to 'em too)and those reely reely tiny onles girls get one the sides of their noses. they just look like zits to me.
Yeah both of those bother me the most. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 05, 2010, 12:25:46 PM
Totally agreed on the piercing issue.  I think it was ridiculous when guys got diamond studs, now they look like they crawled out of some unknown tribe in the Amazon.  As for girls, I've seen some beautiful women totally destroyed with those silly looking lip piercings.  Keep it to the ears ladies.

Oh yes, the single diamond stud or tiny gold earring. I know a couple of downright conservative guys who opted for that one, and I still can't figure out why. What is really weird is that the guys who were getting that back in the 70s and 80s are hitting middle age and beyond. The guy who might just have looked young and ornery when he was 25, can look downright creepy with his little gold earring when he's pushing 50 or 60.

And yeah, the big plugs and the hollow tubes in ears bother me most. That and the rings that go through the lip and out the mouth. Only good thing I can say about that is it makes me think of fishing.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 05, 2010, 12:30:32 PM
Totally agreed on the piercing issue.  I think it was ridiculous when guys got diamond studs, now they look like they crawled out of some unknown tribe in the Amazon.  As for girls, I've seen some beautiful women totally destroyed with those silly looking lip piercings.  Keep it to the ears ladies.

Oh yes, the single diamond stud or tiny gold earring. I know a couple of downright conservative guys who opted for that one, and I still can't figure out why. What is really weird is that the guys who were getting that back in the 70s and 80s are hitting middle age and beyond. The guy who might just have looked young and ornery when he was 25, can look downright creepy with his little gold earring when he's pushing 50 or 60.
Yeah you know I think in the late 80s every one of my friends in middle school had one.   Like you said, it spoke to young and rebellious.  However, the balding 40 to 50 something businessman with one I find to be a bit silly in any era.  

My wife's 19 year old cousin got two earings, think they're diamonds.  Guess some kind of fad or something at his college.  It simply looks bad.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 05, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
I dont think Mike Jackson was all that great. I like maybe 4 of his songs, but everything else is cruddy. Jackson 5 was WAAAY better than his solo career.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 05, 2010, 12:54:47 PM
I dont think Mike Jackson was all that great. I like maybe 4 of his songs, but everything else is cruddy. Jackson 5 was WAAAY better than his solo career.

I liked his early solo stuff, like late 70s. What bugs me most about Jackson is he dies and suddenly everybody forgets what a freak he was for most of his life.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 05, 2010, 01:11:24 PM
Im sick of hearing about Avatar. the more i hear about it, the more i dont want to see it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on February 05, 2010, 03:21:46 PM
I can't stand to see a nose piercing especially on an otherwise attractive woman. Completely destroys her looks IMO. I don't like the looks of most piercings either (aside from ear rings on women) but I have known some friendly generally agreeable people who do have them so it's not right to judge someone because of it but I agree, it may well be a deciding factor against many of them when they do look for jobs. It probably shouldn't be in some cases but in others perhaps it's understandable.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 05, 2010, 03:29:53 PM
I can't stand to see a nose piercing especially on an otherwise attractive woman. Completely destroys her looks IMO. I don't like the looks of most piercings either (aside from ear rings on women) but I have known some friendly generally agreeable people who do have them so it's not right to judge someone because of it but I agree, it may well be a deciding factor against many of them when they do look for jobs. It probably shouldn't be in some cases but in others perhaps it's understandable.

I agree. It's never an impediment to liking somebody if I get to know them, but it does make a bad first impression on me. I think too much of that stuff interferes with the natural lines of a face that would look better without it.

One that really messes up an otherwise attractive body part, from my point of view, is when women get earrings all the way up the outside of one or both ears. My response when I see that is usually "What, is she part spiral notebook?"


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on February 05, 2010, 05:06:40 PM
I just find piercing anything but the ears to be vaguely creepy.  I mean, I look at the piercing and just inwardly shudder, wondering why anyone would want to do that to themselves. 

And I'm not even going to get into getting piercings "down below" if you get my drift.

(shudders violently)



I understand what you're saying, just realize ear piercings are only different because of the type of cultural exposure they get.  In the end, all piercings are just a way of hanging shiny bits on your body.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 05, 2010, 05:38:28 PM
Diamond- It's friggen Carbon!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: WingedSerpent on February 05, 2010, 05:58:29 PM
When it comes to certain comic book characters-I've liked the replacements.
for example
My favorite Green Lantern is Kyle Rayner.
For Ghost Riders I liked Danny Ketch.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 05, 2010, 08:10:19 PM
Diamond- It's friggen Carbon!
That made me remember, I have a top 5 list of money pits in the world.  All of which I can't stand because society puts way too much value on it.  All of which go with the theme of the thread.
 
1.) Jewelry- ditto what Bull said.  Organic material that has a 300% markup in value.  

2.) Weddings - thousands upon thousands of dollars to play dress up for one day.  All that money COULD go toward a house for the new couple or something worth while like a vehicle. Seems really stupid to me.  

3.) Greeting Cards - Nothing like wasting paper to say "I'm thinking about you".  

4.) Flowers - Spending 40 plus dollars on a bouquet of roses that will die in seven days or less.

5.) Christmas - I've said enough of about this silly holiday in other threads.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 05, 2010, 08:34:44 PM
Diamond- It's friggen Carbon!
 

2.) Weddings - thousands upon thousands of dollars to play dress up for one day.  All that money COULD go toward a house for the new couple or something worth while like a vehicle. Seems really stupid to me.  
  
Totally agreed.

Then again, I'm against marriage as a whole, but that's a whole other conversation...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on February 05, 2010, 08:34:54 PM
I think that Laura Bush is wwwwaaaaaayyyyy hotter than Michelle Obama. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 05, 2010, 09:19:54 PM
i hate people say that New Orleans is a bad place to live, I say so What, your judgment is has to do with crime, but this is a very nice place to live!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 05, 2010, 10:36:49 PM
I think that Laura Bush is wwwwaaaaaayyyyy hotter than Michelle Obama. :teddyr:
Michelle Obama scares me.  Not sure why yet.  Maybe its the Oprah hair. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: retrorussell on February 05, 2010, 10:42:29 PM
Totally agree about weddings and greeting cards. 

Other things I feel differently about than most people:
I like the smell of gasoline.
I don't like pumpkin pie or pineapple.
I don't like alcohol much at all.
I don't like jam.
I hate dancing.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 05, 2010, 10:43:41 PM
my sister doesn't understand the concept of pie  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 06, 2010, 02:51:32 AM
I think that Laura Bush is wwwwaaaaaayyyyy hotter than Michelle Obama. :teddyr:

Being poorly versed in political names and terms, at first I thought you were talking about their KIDS.  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 06, 2010, 03:27:06 AM
She had and continues to have her detractors but I was (and also still am) more than a little in love with Princess Diana. My only regret is that she discovered her niche in life so late in her short life.

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Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 06, 2010, 03:48:22 AM
I think Jennifer Aniston is overrated.  She's not that great of an actress, she's not really all that funny, and she isn't all that good looking.  I used to get sick of all the girls that fawned over her like she was their close personal best friend or something. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on February 06, 2010, 05:28:24 AM




Lady GaGa


She is merely a pop version of Marilyn Manson and quite frankly hurts the opinion of homosexuals rather than helping it (just to make it clear I'm not a homophobe).

Dawn of the Dead - I am a black sheep among horror fans...I have never thought this movie deserved as much praise as it has. Although I do like it and it is far from the worst zombie film (that would be, "Zombie Chronicles", directed by Brad Sykes). I just always considered "Night" and "Day" to be far superior.

I'm sure I'll be back with more hatred to spread soon.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 06, 2010, 08:29:42 AM
I think Jennifer Aniston is overrated.  She's not that great of an actress, she's not really all that funny, and she isn't all that good looking.  I used to get sick of all the girls that fawned over her like she was their close personal best friend or something.  
Yes indeed. She plays the same damn role in EVERY film I've ever seen her in.  She's Sandra Bullock class to me, IOW she's ruined every film she's ever been in for me.  

Quote
Dawn of the Dead - I am a black sheep among horror fans...I have never thought this movie deserved as much praise as it has. Although I do like it and it is far from the worst zombie film (that would be, "Zombie Chronicles", directed by Brad Sykes). I just always considered "Night" and "Day" to be far superior.
You know, I actually hated this film as well when I first saw it.  It did grow immensely on me in subsequent viewings.  I like it because theres something cool about a mall, zombies and automatic weapons.

Side note on my early "Money Pit" list.  Do you notice how 1-4 kind of all relate to one another.  Odd...hmmmm...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 06, 2010, 09:06:15 AM
Side note on my early "Money Pit" list.  Do you notice how 1-4 kind of all relate to one another.  Odd...hmmmm...

Oh, no doubt about that. When love and social obligations get mixed up with business, prices go way up. Don`t come home empty-handed on Valentine`s day (kind of a bizarre holiday right there). If you really want to make her happy, you`ll spend two months pay on a diamond engagement ring. You only get engaged once and it has to be special. That line gets you right through to the wedding and beyond. If you love each other, and you want to show it, and you want it all to be magical and perfect, you have to pay for it. For that very reason, the price of anything for a wedding is automatically jacked up, and they make you feel like a cheap bastard if you say anything about it.

My wife and I planned our own wedding. We made the invitations, we made the decorations, we bought the food and asked relatives to cook it, and we had the reception at the local Legion hall. And we put as much planning into the church service as we did the reception, rather than it being a formality on the way to the party. It was a beautiful wedding, and including the wedding dress (we bought the fabric and paid a lady to sew it), simple 10K gold rings, tuxedo rental, all the food for 100 people, party favours and gifts for the wedding party (soaps and scented candles we also made), hiring a coworker from the newspaper as photographer, and a wedding night at a local B&B, it was under $5,000. We more than made up for it in wedding gifts. I had a buddy who spent twice that on his reception alone - just the hall and the food and the booze (plus a lot of ridiculous surcharges added to the advertised price). It was a nice reception, and I took full advantage of the free bar, but come on.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 06, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
My wife and I planned our own wedding. We made the invitations, we made the decorations, we bought the food and asked relatives to cook it, and we had the reception at the local Legion hall. And we put as much planning into the church service as we did the reception, rather than it being a formality on the way to the party. It was a beautiful wedding, and including the wedding dress (we bought the fabric and paid a lady to sew it), simple 10K gold rings, tuxedo rental, all the food for 100 people, party favours and gifts for the wedding party (soaps and scented candles we also made), hiring a coworker from the newspaper as photographer, and a wedding night at a local B&B, it was under $5,000. We more than made up for it in wedding gifts.

Sounds like it was a great event ~ where was my invite, though?  :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 06, 2010, 09:52:02 AM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 06, 2010, 09:56:46 AM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.

Here's something that'll make you cringe DS: At bowling last night, this girl asked me what my t-shirt was, I replied "It's a vintage 1988 Ratt Reach For The Sky concert shirt. She then said "Is that some sort of ska band?" - I then died slightly inside and that's when I started drinking again....


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 06, 2010, 10:01:20 AM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.

Here's something that'll make you cringe DS: At bowling last night, this girl asked me what my t-shirt was, I replied "It's a vintage 1988 Ratt Reach For The Sky concert shirt. She then said "Is that some sort of ska band?" - I then died slightly inside and that's when I started drinking again....
Well I give up faith for the future.  But at least we have you representing Circus so it isn't all bad.   :wink:

Side note, I should point out that the "you sold out" argument doesn't make sense in any form of entertainment.  Like when wrestlers in ECW were leaving for a multimillion dollar contract for WCW/WWE and the fans flipped.  Lets see...playing bingo halls for pennies OR arenas with a fat paycheck. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 06, 2010, 10:06:09 AM
Everybody has their price, everyone eventually "sells out" in one way or another and everything goes mainstream.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 06, 2010, 10:17:43 AM
Oh and one for the parents out there.  Nick Jr has gone from good to sh*t in less than a few months for children's programming.   What value does Yo Gabba Gabba have for anyone watching?  I've switched back to the Sprout network personally.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 06, 2010, 10:21:14 AM
Everybody has their price, everyone eventually "sells out" in one way or another and everything goes mainstream.
I sell out every day for something.   :bouncegiggle:  Like yesterday I helped my neighbor lug in 10 cases of soda for a  free 12 pack of pepsi and a pizza.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: 3mnkids on February 06, 2010, 10:56:15 AM
Diamond- It's friggen Carbon!

 

4.) Flowers - Spending 40 plus dollars on a bouquet of roses that will die in seven days or less.

 

I have always told my husband never get me flowers! To me its like someone giving me a sick puppy and saying here, enjoy it for the next 7-10 days.  :lookingup:  I dont want something that is dying!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on February 06, 2010, 11:13:29 AM
I didn't get a diamond ring and it does not matter to me one bit.  The fact that he wanted to marry me was enough! 

We got married at City Hall and had a family get-together at my Aunt's house.  Didn't have a honeymoon either. 

And we do not take vacations that we would have to borrow money for. I would not be able to sleep at night if we spent that kind of money just for fun.

My husband does buy me flowers. We live one road over from major greenhouses that ship to the city, so flowers are relatively cheap and it makes him happy to give them to me:  he grew up in a very frugal family and flower-giving is a very sweet and important emotional gesture for him. I would never take that away from him.  He has, however, learned that he does not have to buy me jewellry.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 06, 2010, 11:21:28 AM
I think your husband knows what we've all known for a while here, Newt - you are a rare jewel indeed. :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 06, 2010, 01:06:11 PM
TV there's nothing ever on!  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 06, 2010, 02:27:10 PM
Oh and one for the parents out there.  Nick Jr has gone from good to sh*t in less than a few months for children's programming.   What value does Yo Gabba Gabba have for anyone watching?  I've switched back to the Sprout network personally.

My 2 cents on Yo Gabba Gabba:
For a toddler, its cool. But for what ever reason, I go to school, and I see people in their late teens and early 20's running around with keychains and t shirts with the featured charecters on them. I went into Hot Topic one time, (please dont ask why) and they are FULL of Yo Gabba Gabba junk! So i went home and thought, "hmm, perhaps its one of those kids shows that has a little bit of adult humor in it. Like Rocko's Modern Life or Spoungebob." So i watched it.....and i realized that THE SHOW IS COMPLETELY TARGETED TOWARD TODLERS!! I dont GET it! I know that every once inna while, cool bands will play on there that might apply to an older audience like The Aquabats!, The Aggrolites, Shiny Toy Guns, and Biz Markie, but thats not enough to make me develop fandom for it! Its like a BARNEY show!!......I just dont get it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on February 06, 2010, 02:32:04 PM
I've never truly liked Heavy Metal, even when it was popular. Sure there are a few bands/songs I do enjoy here and there (mostly the Hair bands of the 80s [my fave: Twisted Sister] which to me sound closer to Rock 'n' Roll) but overall I've never been drawn to it all that much. Never owned any Megadeath or Metallica and never really cared that much for them for example.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 06, 2010, 02:34:34 PM
I think 24 and CSI (and all its 3 billion incarnations) are boring.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 06, 2010, 07:38:43 PM
Oh and one for the parents out there.  Nick Jr has gone from good to sh*t in less than a few months for children's programming.   What value does Yo Gabba Gabba have for anyone watching?  I've switched back to the Sprout network personally.

My 2 cents on Yo Gabba Gabba:
For a toddler, its cool. But for what ever reason, I go to school, and I see people in their late teens and early 20's running around with keychains and t shirts with the featured charecters on them. I went into Hot Topic one time, (please dont ask why) and they are FULL of Yo Gabba Gabba junk! So i went home and thought, "hmm, perhaps its one of those kids shows that has a little bit of adult humor in it. Like Rocko's Modern Life or Spoungebob." So i watched it.....and i realized that THE SHOW IS COMPLETELY TARGETED TOWARD TODLERS!! I dont GET it! I know that every once inna while, cool bands will play on there that might apply to an older audience like The Aquabats!, The Aggrolites, Shiny Toy Guns, and Biz Markie, but thats not enough to make me develop fandom for it! Its like a BARNEY show!!......I just dont get it.
I see that too constantly.  I find the characters to be completely repulsive.  Especially the big orange dildo. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 06, 2010, 10:17:42 PM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 
I don't get angry when a punk band signs with a label, but I see where they're coming from in one respect.  Unsigned bands that built up a following, earning a living based on said fanbase, and then they go and 'sell-out', in essence spitting on their fans faces, saying 'You can only take us so far on a financial basis' and it becomes less about the music and more about the money.  Which is true in a lot of bands cases. 

Myself, personally, I don't care if a band signs with a label or not.  It's just music.  I'm not gonna suddenly stop listening to someone just cause they now have the financial backings of corporate America.  Punk has always been the anti-establishment, and signing with a label spits in the ethics of what brought them to the dance. 

I can understand someone not liking punk or ska.  Although, sadly, my cousin (a 12 year old girl) just told me that The Jonas Brothers were "Punk" and I wept for about 20 minutes. :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 06, 2010, 10:19:48 PM
Oh and one for the parents out there.  Nick Jr has gone from good to sh*t in less than a few months for children's programming.   What value does Yo Gabba Gabba have for anyone watching?  I've switched back to the Sprout network personally.

My 2 cents on Yo Gabba Gabba:
For a toddler, its cool. But for what ever reason, I go to school, and I see people in their late teens and early 20's running around with keychains and t shirts with the featured charecters on them. I went into Hot Topic one time, (please dont ask why) and they are FULL of Yo Gabba Gabba junk! So i went home and thought, "hmm, perhaps its one of those kids shows that has a little bit of adult humor in it. Like Rocko's Modern Life or Spoungebob." So i watched it.....and i realized that THE SHOW IS COMPLETELY TARGETED TOWARD TODLERS!! I dont GET it! I know that every once inna while, cool bands will play on there that might apply to an older audience like The Aquabats!, The Aggrolites, Shiny Toy Guns, and Biz Markie, but thats not enough to make me develop fandom for it! Its like a BARNEY show!!......I just dont get it.
I see that too constantly.  I find the characters to be completely repulsive.  Especially the big orange dildo. 

Disney is W.O.R.S.E.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 06, 2010, 10:32:10 PM
I like the smell of low tide.  It takes me back to many happy times by the shore. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 06, 2010, 10:39:14 PM
for some reason, i like smell of nail polish remover


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 07, 2010, 01:00:44 AM
I have to admit to liking Yo Gabba Gabba, at least for the first little while. But it was the same way I like a really bizarre and crappy movie. I mean, Brobee looks like the illegitimate offspring of a muppet and the Green Slime, Muno is a big, knobby orange vibrator, DJ Lance is a fashion nightmare, even by hip hop standards. They sing songs with lyrics like "What's that noise? Who made these holes?" repeated over and over and over. And every show is chock full of weirdness. Of course, even the delicious badness of it wore thin, and now I can't stand it either. Fortunately, my daughter doesn't particularly care for the show. She seems to have pretty good taste in kids' shows, and generally knows a crappy one when she sees it.

The show I really can't stand, that my daughter just loves, is Caillou. A whiny little bald kid who talks in a perpetually shrill, shouty voice. I don't like the drawing style of the show, I don't think it has a whole lot of value in it for kids, I find it dull, and it's even had a few things that I would consider a really bad example for kids.

And why the hell is this kid bald? Caillou is a four-year-old kid walking around with a full Kojak chrome dome, and the subject just never comes up. Nobody notices at all. Not that I have a problem with it. There are bald kids, with alopecia, etc., and it might be nice for them to be represented, but that doesn't seem to be what's going on. There doesn't appear to be any reason for it. It seems Caillou is just bald because somebody decided to draw him that way. The best the Caillou website has to offer (it's their most frequently asked question) is that the original character in the books was younger. Unless he was an infant, it's still puzzling that he'd have no hair at all, and when they made him older for the TV show, it apparently didn't occur to anyone that he might grow some.

I usually like the kids' shows we watch, but if Caillou is on, I find some work that needs doing.

Oh, and I really hate Dora the Explorer. If I couldn't make fun of the show, I don't know what I'd do. All it seems to teach kids is to yell really loud and use a few Spanish words without actually speaking Spanish. And where the hell does Dora live that kids have to get past a crocodile pond on the way to the library?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 07, 2010, 05:35:40 AM
for some reason, i like smell of nail polish remover

I "like smell" of petrol


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 07, 2010, 03:48:42 PM
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The show I really can't stand, that my daughter just loves, is Caillou. A whiny little bald kid who talks in a perpetually shrill, shouty voice. I don't like the drawing style of the show, I don't think it has a whole lot of value in it for kids, I find it dull, and it's even had a few things that I would consider a really bad example for kids.

And why the hell is this kid bald? Caillou is a four-year-old kid walking around with a full Kojak chrome dome, and the subject just never comes up. Nobody notices at all. Not that I have a problem with it. There are bald kids, with alopecia, etc., and it might be nice for them to be represented, but that doesn't seem to be what's going on. There doesn't appear to be any reason for it. It seems Caillou is just bald because somebody decided to draw him that way. The best the Caillou website has to offer (it's their most frequently asked question) is that the original character in the books was younger. Unless he was an infant, it's still puzzling that he'd have no hair at all, and when they made him older for the TV show, it apparently didn't occur to anyone that he might grow some.

I usually like the kids' shows we watch, but if Caillou is on, I find some work that needs doing.

Oh, and I really hate Dora the Explorer. If I couldn't make fun of the show, I don't know what I'd do. All it seems to teach kids is to yell really loud and use a few Spanish words without actually speaking Spanish. And where the hell does Dora live that kids have to get past a crocodile pond on the way to the library?

Cailou is a whiny b!tch.  I absolutely hate that show.  It just encourages kids to be like him.   As for Dora, spot on and Diego is the same.  Everything is "SAY IT LOUDER".  I prefer it quiet.

Another one I can't stand is Max And Ruby.  Max sets a horrible example; he doesn't listen, constantly does the wrong thing and yet his awful behavior pays off in the end.  Arrrrrrggggg! :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 07, 2010, 03:58:49 PM
I like baking cookies.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 07, 2010, 04:41:12 PM
i like to clean wheels


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 07, 2010, 05:06:41 PM
I admire artists who sell out.  Everyone should get paid for their labor; there's no lack of integrity involved.  Not selling out is asinine, arrogant, and mostly championed by people whose stuff no one would pay for in the first place.   


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 07, 2010, 05:25:14 PM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 

(Disclaimer: DarkSider is entitled to his own opinion and KYGOTC respects that)

I don't see how anyone could NOT like ska. To me, it's the happiest up-beat get up and dance feel good music in the world! What REALLY baffles me is that most kids these days would rather listen to whiny boo hoo "woe is me" crap to deal with their issues. I really dont get it. Who ENJOYS beiong misrable? Damn Hot Topic teenie boppers!! Why ska has lost the general public's intrest since the 90's ended is a mystery to me. PICKITUPPICKITUP!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 07, 2010, 05:27:44 PM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 

(Disclaimer: DarkSider is entitled to his own opinion and KYGOTC respects that)

I don't see how anyone could NOT like ska. To me, it's the happiest up-beat get up and dance feel good music in the world! What REALLY baffles me is that most kids these days would rather listen to whiny boo hoo "woe is me" crap to deal with their issues. I really dont get it. Who ENJOYS beiong misrable? Damn Hot Topic teenie boppers!! Why ska has lost the general public's intrest since the 90's ended is a mystery to me. PICKITUPPICKITUP!
And I respect your opinion KYGOTC.  I as well hate the EMO scene out there and the whiny stuff they're passing off as METAL now.  I just never liked the sound of SKA.  I think its the horn section.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 07, 2010, 05:36:30 PM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 

(Disclaimer: DarkSider is entitled to his own opinion and KYGOTC respects that)

I don't see how anyone could NOT like ska. To me, it's the happiest up-beat get up and dance feel good music in the world! What REALLY baffles me is that most kids these days would rather listen to whiny boo hoo "woe is me" crap to deal with their issues. I really dont get it. Who ENJOYS beiong misrable? Damn Hot Topic teenie boppers!! Why ska has lost the general public's intrest since the 90's ended is a mystery to me. PICKITUPPICKITUP!
And I respect your opinion KYGOTC.  I as well hate the EMO scene out there and the whiny stuff they're passing off as METAL now.  I just never liked the sound of SKA.  I think its the horn section.

Yea, thats another thing! I have a pal who listens to alot of "metal". And the MUSIC sounds like how it aughta, but once the vocalist starts vocalin', im thinkin' "Who let the guy from Bowling for Soup in a metal band?"


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 07, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 

(Disclaimer: DarkSider is entitled to his own opinion and KYGOTC respects that)

I don't see how anyone could NOT like ska. To me, it's the happiest up-beat get up and dance feel good music in the world! What REALLY baffles me is that most kids these days would rather listen to whiny boo hoo "woe is me" crap to deal with their issues. I really dont get it. Who ENJOYS beiong misrable? Damn Hot Topic teenie boppers!! Why ska has lost the general public's intrest since the 90's ended is a mystery to me. PICKITUPPICKITUP!
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And I respect your opinion KYGOTC.  I as well hate the EMO scene out there and the whiny stuff they're passing off as METAL now.  I just never liked the sound of SKA.  I think its the horn section.

would you listen to Sublime? The new metal aint cool as it was years ago,


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 07, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
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Yea, thats another thing! I have a pal who listens to alot of "metal". And the MUSIC sounds like how it aughta, but once the vocalist starts vocalin', im thinkin' "Who let the guy from Bowling for Soup in a metal band?"

Dude totally.  Know what scene really bugs me, Screamo.  Shout, shout shout, whine whine whine, repeat 3x. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 07, 2010, 06:00:09 PM
Side note, I've posted this before...it really describes my feeling on modern "metal"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chiVMrWMHko


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 07, 2010, 07:20:22 PM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 

(Disclaimer: DarkSider is entitled to his own opinion and KYGOTC respects that)

I don't see how anyone could NOT like ska. To me, it's the happiest up-beat get up and dance feel good music in the world! What REALLY baffles me is that most kids these days would rather listen to whiny boo hoo "woe is me" crap to deal with their issues. I really dont get it. Who ENJOYS beiong misrable? Damn Hot Topic teenie boppers!! Why ska has lost the general public's intrest since the 90's ended is a mystery to me. PICKITUPPICKITUP!
And I respect your opinion KYGOTC.  I as well hate the EMO scene out there and the whiny stuff they're passing off as METAL now.  I just never liked the sound of SKA.  I think its the horn section.

Yeccch. I hate emo and its ilk probably more than any other kind of music. When my favourite radio station started to go downhill, I stuck with it, until they played Simple Plan. I was appalled when somebody actually referred to them as a punk band. Whining for Dad's respect is about as far from punk as one can get. What is it with kids? Since I was a teenager, we've gone from "We're not gonna take it" to "Daddy won't accept me as I am." Jeez Louise. Grow a pair. And aside from the wussy, self-absorbed lyrics, we have to listen to singing that is just slightly less whiny than Dora the Explorer's talking map.

And I agree that there is not nearly enough fun music being made. I don't always want a message or a statement or whatever. Make music for music's sake. By the same token, I don't want a lot of fluffy, paint-by-numbers pop songs either. But we keep getting one or the other. It doesn't have to be all art or all fluff. There's a lot of good territory in between that nobody seems to be visiting anymore. We need to return to the days when the charts were full of songs about rocking, partying, having fun, that were catchy but also had some obvious talent behind them.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 07, 2010, 07:32:07 PM
The Superbowl. It's just another borring televised spoting event to me. .....But I LOVE all the free food and parties that come with it, so i guess its ok.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: RCMerchant on February 07, 2010, 08:08:06 PM
The Superbowl. It's just another borring televised spoting event to me. .....But I LOVE all the free food and parties that come with it, so i guess its ok.

I agree. f**k the Superbowl. Boring. Give 'em guns.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 07, 2010, 08:13:44 PM
The Superbowl. It's just another borring televised spoting event to me. .....But I LOVE all the free food and parties that come with it, so i guess its ok.

I agree. f**k the Superbowl. Boring. Give 'em guns.
:bouncegiggle: :thumbup:

Call me a sadist but this would make sports watchable to me.  Add a Running Man sense of danger to the game.  Another idea I had was to give Nascar drivers missle launchers.  Hell, I'd be glued to the TV every week.  Yes, I'm serious. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 07, 2010, 09:06:28 PM
You know what else I can't stand?  Flat-billed hats.  I think it's because when I was in high school you got made fun of for wearing one.  Then again, I don't like any of today's current men's fashion, really.  Just give me a band shirt and a pair of jeans.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 07, 2010, 10:04:11 PM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 

(Disclaimer: DarkSider is entitled to his own opinion and KYGOTC respects that)

I don't see how anyone could NOT like ska. To me, it's the happiest up-beat get up and dance feel good music in the world! What REALLY baffles me is that most kids these days would rather listen to whiny boo hoo "woe is me" crap to deal with their issues. I really dont get it. Who ENJOYS beiong misrable? Damn Hot Topic teenie boppers!! Why ska has lost the general public's intrest since the 90's ended is a mystery to me. PICKITUPPICKITUP!
I turned a friend of mine onto some ska and punk groups.  He's a coworker friend, who seemingly only listens to classic rock (Stones, Aerosmith, Doors) and Mexican Rock (he's from Mexico.)  I took in some Reel Big Fish, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Ramones and Clash cd's to work one day.  Since then, with increasing interest, he says "When's the Fish coming back to be listened to?" :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 07, 2010, 10:47:48 PM
You know what else I can't stand?  Flat-billed hats.  I think it's because when I was in high school you got made fun of for wearing one.

Are you talking about the big, square high-profile ball caps? I just shake my head when I see the hip young dudes walking around in hats that were reserved for old retired farmers when I was that age. :bouncegiggle:

Worse though, is when the manufacturers take that ugly "trucker hat" shape and put hideous patterns on it. What gets me about fashions like that is they just aim to be as flashy as possible as opposed to actually looking good. It's more a plea for attention than a fashion statement. And it brings me to another thing I really hate, and that's when middle-class white kids in small-town Canada try to dress and talk like black kids from an American inner city. It's not just that I think the fashions look ridiculous (which I do), but these kids are co-opting the superficial trappings of a culture they know nothing about and have no claim to, because they think it's cool. Well hey, I like the British. Should I go around copying them? If I were to start affecting a Cockney accent, and went around talking in rhyming slang on a daily basis, people would think I was nuts, or at least a phony. No doubt some genuine Cockneys would even find it offensive. And that's exactly what I think when I look at kids slouching around with their hats on sideways and their pants halfway down their butts, adding "izzle" to every second word. Kids today seem to want to be everything but themselves.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 08, 2010, 12:12:27 AM
cars with the big exhaust pipes, too noisy


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 08, 2010, 01:03:13 AM
Ok I'm going to get ripped for this one but I have to be honest.  I can't stand punk rock or ska.  Granted I self admittingly like way less talented music/artists but I just never cared for the music.    I also find the punk rock argument of "you sold out to a major record label" to be silly. 


(Disclaimer: DarkSider is entitled to his own opinion and KYGOTC respects that)

I don't see how anyone could NOT like ska. To me, it's the happiest up-beat get up and dance feel good music in the world! What REALLY baffles me is that most kids these days would rather listen to whiny boo hoo "woe is me" crap to deal with their issues. I really dont get it. Who ENJOYS beiong misrable? Damn Hot Topic teenie boppers!! Why ska has lost the general public's intrest since the 90's ended is a mystery to me. PICKITUPPICKITUP!

I turned a friend of mine onto some ska and punk groups.  He's a coworker friend, who seemingly only listens to classic rock (Stones, Aerosmith, Doors) and Mexican Rock (he's from Mexico.)  I took in some Reel Big Fish, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Ramones and Clash cd's to work one day.  Since then, with increasing interest, he says "When's the Fish coming back to be listened to?" :teddyr:


When he's ready, give 'im some Mustard Plug, The Toasters, The Specials, Save Ferris, and if he can stand a little "pop-ska", Less Than Jake. And if you wanna get OLD SKOOL, give 'im some Laruel Atkin and Prince Buster.

Saw Mustard Plug live. Blew my BUTT off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDhriyKJJJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6YLHRsieAg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSo-_TavE1U


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 08, 2010, 04:02:34 AM
You know what else I can't stand?  Flat-billed hats.  I think it's because when I was in high school you got made fun of for wearing one.


Are you talking about the big, square high-profile ball caps? I just shake my head when I see the hip young dudes walking around in hats that were reserved for old retired farmers when I was that age. :bouncegiggle:

Worse though, is when the manufacturers take that ugly "trucker hat" shape and put hideous patterns on it. What gets me about fashions like that is they just aim to be as flashy as possible as opposed to actually looking good. It's more a plea for attention than a fashion statement. And it brings me to another thing I really hate, and that's when middle-class white kids in small-town Canada try to dress and talk like black kids from an American inner city. It's not just that I think the fashions look ridiculous (which I do), but these kids are co-opting the superficial trappings of a culture they know nothing about and have no claim to, because they think it's cool. Well hey, I like the British. Should I go around copying them? If I were to start affecting a Cockney accent, and went around talking in rhyming slang on a daily basis, people would think I was nuts, or at least a phony. No doubt some genuine Cockneys would even find it offensive. And that's exactly what I think when I look at kids slouching around with their hats on sideways and their pants halfway down their butts, adding "izzle" to every second word. Kids today seem to want to be everything but themselves.


YES!  I agree.  We have a lot of kids around this area that act like they're from Compton, but they live in Spokane or a Seattle suburb. 

(http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/5/24/633787750059085960-gangstafail.jpg)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 08, 2010, 04:32:46 AM
YES!  I agree.  We have a lot of kids around this area that act like they're from Compton, but they live in Spokane or a Seattle suburb. 

([url]http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2009/5/24/633787750059085960-gangstafail.jpg[/url])


Oh man, that pic made me laugh. Thanks, Joe.  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I have a particular hate of people in South Africa who talk in a pseudo American or UK accent. I had one client here who asked me for certain types of footage in a drawl, so I asked him what state in the USA he was from. His answer was that he came from Soweto so I asked him to lose the accent. :question:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 08, 2010, 08:50:22 AM
Touching on Andy C's commentary about the suburban fly guys, that stuff really took off around mid 90s thanks to gangsta rap in my hometown.  We had a lot of "homies" walking around with their pants to their ankles.  Of course if these kids even set foot in the inner city they'd crap their pants.  I recall one girl who was kind of the all American cheerleader type in our high school.  She ended up dating some kid from the ghetto.  After running into her after a few years you'd swear she'd grown up there with the way she was talking.  I don't know, it just seems odd to me.  

Don't get me wrong, I like gangsta rap here and there but I make no bones about myself being from the suburbs. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Cthulhu on February 08, 2010, 09:37:55 AM
The Superbowl. It's just another borring televised spoting event to me. .....But I LOVE all the free food and parties that come with it, so i guess its ok.

I agree. f**k the Superbowl. Boring. Give 'em guns.
Good idea!
I've been thinking about how to spice up sports, and came up with some cruel ideas myself.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 08, 2010, 09:47:25 AM
The Superbowl. It's just another borring televised spoting event to me. .....But I LOVE all the free food and parties that come with it, so i guess its ok.

I agree. f**k the Superbowl. Boring. Give 'em guns.
Good idea!
I've been thinking about how to spice up sports, and came up with some cruel ideas myself.

I say do away with all of the drug testing and other restrictions, and let's just see what you can really make a human body do.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 08, 2010, 12:20:47 PM
I think athletes, musical artists and actors should be the least paid in our society. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on February 08, 2010, 04:11:32 PM
I think athletes, musical artists and actors should be the least paid in our society. 

Least paid?  I can think of jobs that should be paid less.  How about people who buy and sell currency?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 08, 2010, 05:23:38 PM
I think athletes, musical artists and actors should be the least paid in our society. 

Least paid?  I can think of jobs that should be paid less.  How about people who buy and sell currency?
Perhaps them too.  I really feel my nominees do not deserve the ridiculous sums of money they get.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 08, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
I think athletes, musical artists and actors should be the least paid in our society. 

Least paid?  I can think of jobs that should be paid less.  How about people who buy and sell currency?
Perhaps them too.  I really feel my nominees do not deserve the ridiculous sums of money they get.

I agree for the most part.  Maybe not least paid, but definitely shouldn't be rolling in the dough while other members that are necessary to society are being paid next to crap.  That's part of the reason I haven't used my teaching degree and my fiancee hasn't used her social work degree. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 08, 2010, 10:29:04 PM
I think athletes, musical artists and actors should be the least paid in our society. 

But for the most part they are the least paid.  I know some actors and they don't make enough to support themselves.  Heck, ask Peter Johnson! 



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 08, 2010, 10:50:32 PM


When he's ready, give 'im some Mustard Plug, The Toasters, The Specials, Save Ferris, and if he can stand a little "pop-ska", Less Than Jake. And if you wanna get OLD SKOOL, give 'im some Laruel Atkin and Prince Buster.



I quite like Save Ferris, Less Than Jake and The Toasters.

I gotta admit though, I've never heard of Prince Buster... :question:

Then again, I'm not a big ska expert.  I only know a few bands.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 08, 2010, 11:11:48 PM
Political ads on TV! P!sses me off!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 08, 2010, 11:43:29 PM
I think it's "Against the Grain' here on this board, but:
I quite LIKE The Doors.  I'm not saying their lyrics are 'thought provoking' or anything, but I think for what they were, they were damn good songs.  And generally, I shy away from most "Classic Rock", even not liking Led Zeppelin.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 09, 2010, 08:12:04 AM
I don't feel a concert ticket should ever be above $20.00.  Same thing for a sporting event. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 09, 2010, 08:48:31 AM
I think that FIFA should give away free tickets to the Soccer World Cup and not contract poor, underpaid Chinese slave labor to build these horrible mascot toys.

(http://5g8.net/uploader/12657232088942_zakumi-2010-mascot.jpg)

 :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 09, 2010, 09:49:20 AM
I think that FIFA should give away free tickets to the Soccer World Cup and not contract poor, underpaid Chinese slave labor to build these horrible mascot toys.

([url]http://5g8.net/uploader/12657232088942_zakumi-2010-mascot.jpg[/url])

 :buggedout: :buggedout:


What animal is that? Looks like somebody crossed a cheetah with a lion.

Personally, I will never understand mascots. Some of them you really have to think hard to figure out what they're supposed to be, let alone what they have to do with anything. And that's the mascots that are developed for the long term. I agree, when somebody hosts a one-time event and comes out with a "beloved" character that starts popping up all over the place, that's not a mascot, it's a logo, albeit one designed to sell a lot of crappy merchandise.

I suppose that's against the grain. I can't stand costumed characters in amusement parks or wherever. They give me the creeps.

It's not just the costumes and the masks, although that's part of it. I really don't like interacting in the real world with somebody who is pretending to be somebody else. At renaissance fairs, I get p!ssed off at people who can't drop out of character for one minute to have a normal conversation, even when nobody else is around. That was especially true when I was a reporter and trying to do my job. Sorry, I can't attribute a quote to Robin Hood.

My one and only dinner theatre experience came disturbingly close to turning violent at one point, because people who do this kind of stuff don't understand that not everybody wants to be part of the show. If somebody just wants to watch, don't try to force him to play along.

And with apologies to Circus, I hate clowns. I once had to interview a local party clown who returned from a convention with a big award. She showed up in costume, stayed in character the whole time, and I was shut in a small office with her for a good twenty minutes. Very unsettling, and a testament to my professionalism. Really, I've attended fatal motor vehicle collisions that didn't bother me as much as being alone with that clown. The costume was good for pictures, but I'd have been satisfied if she'd just brought a picture with her.

I like fiction, and I like reality. I don't like mixing the two. Actors belong on a stage or a screen.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 09, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
I think it's "Against the Grain' here on this board, but:
I quite LIKE The Doors.  I'm not saying their lyrics are 'thought provoking' or anything, but I think for what they were, they were damn good songs.  And generally, I shy away from most "Classic Rock", even not liking Led Zeppelin.

I kind of like the Doors too, though they're mostly in the "guilty pleasure" category for me.  Never quite understood the depth of hate so many people have for them.  There are several songs off the first album I'd defend unconditionally.  After that, it gets a little dicey for them.   


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 09, 2010, 12:03:23 PM
Quote
And with apologies to Circus, I hate clowns. I once had to interview a local party clown who returned from a convention with a big award. She showed up in costume, stayed in character the whole time, and I was shut in a small office with her for a good twenty minutes. Very unsettling, and a testament to my professionalism. Really, I've attended fatal motor vehicle collisions that didn't bother me as much as being alone with that clown. The costume was good for pictures, but I'd have been satisfied if she'd just brought a picture with her.
Dude this story is hilarious.   :bouncegiggle:  I just kind of picture you trying to interview her and giving a sympathy chuckle here and there. I like evil looking clowns personally but I am put off by the innocent looking ones oddly. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on February 09, 2010, 01:28:48 PM
Family Guy- It hasn't been funny for years, you are not The Simpsons, give it up and focus on American Dad (which is hilarious)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 09, 2010, 01:34:14 PM
Personally, I will never understand mascots. Some of them you really have to think hard to figure out what they're supposed to be, let alone what they have to do with anything.

I agree. My football club's mascot is an alien!? Our original badge just had a ship on it, due to the 3 well known Manchester riverways and now it has a ship with a big gold eagle on?

I've never seen any eagles or aliens in Manchester...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 09, 2010, 02:32:15 PM
Personally, I will never understand mascots. Some of them you really have to think hard to figure out what they're supposed to be, let alone what they have to do with anything.

I agree. My football club's mascot is an alien!? Our original badge just had a ship on it, due to the 3 well known Manchester riverways and now it has a ship with a big gold eagle on?

I've never seen any eagles or aliens in Manchester...

Sports teams are just goofy, because they all need a cool mascot, even if it makes little or no sense. My hometown has a Junior B hockey team called the Sugar Kings. The town is in the middle of maple syrup country, it has a big maple syrup festival every spring, and when they formed the team in the early 70s, the founders tied the name to that. Most of their crests over the years have been some variation of a maple leaf. Now, jump forward to the 90s, and the maple leaf suddenly becomes the background for a lion biting a hockey stick in half. Huh? The reasoning is, of course, that the lion is "king" of the beasts. Now, if they were just the Kings, that might make sense, and actually at least one variation of the crest just omitted the "Sugar." But they're not kings of beasts, they're kings of sugar. Maybe the lion's diabetic; I don't know. It just struck me as a dumb thing to do for the sake of some kind of macho pride. The team's named after maple syrup. Live with it.

It was actually around the same time that the local minor hockey league got a new name. For years, they'd just been "Woolwich." That's it. No need for a name. They represented the township, and had its name right on their uniforms. It actually made them kind of unique. At some point - again, in the 90s - somebody decided the team needed a name. Did they pick something unique? Something reflecting the community? No, they picked the Wildcats, which seems to have no connection to Woolwich other than alliteration. Oh, and it's cool, and allowed them to have a tough-looking crest. I guess Wildcats must be a good name, since about half of kids' sports teams seem to be called that. Maybe that's an exaggeration, but come on. There had to be something better than Wildcats.

The irony is that you look at team pictures from the old days, when guys were playing with minimal padding and helmets were optional, and they didn't feel the need to have a tough name or a tough mascot. Go figure.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 09, 2010, 02:37:47 PM
Maybe the lion's diabetic; I don't know.

 :bouncegiggle: I just choked on my coffee!  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 09, 2010, 06:08:38 PM
Family Guy- It hasn't been funny for years, you are not The Simpsons, give it up and focus on American Dad (which is hilarious)

Agreed.   :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 09, 2010, 06:25:03 PM
Family Guy- It hasn't been funny for years, you are not The Simpsons, give it up and focus on American Dad (which is hilarious)

Agreed.   :thumbup:
I like Family Guy but it seems the last couple episodes they cranked out (Peter loses his memory & Meg goes to jail) really suck.  I didn't laugh once.  I think they've used up all the funny pop culture references and are out of material. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 09, 2010, 08:59:18 PM


Sports teams are just goofy, because they all need a cool mascot, even if it makes little or no sense. My hometown has a Junior B hockey team called the Sugar Kings. The town is in the middle of maple syrup country, it has a big maple syrup festival every spring, and when they formed the team in the early 70s, the founders tied the name to that. Most of their crests over the years have been some variation of a maple leaf. Now, jump forward to the 90s, and the maple leaf suddenly becomes the background for a lion biting a hockey stick in half. Huh? The reasoning is, of course, that the lion is "king" of the beasts. Now, if they were just the Kings, that might make sense, and actually at least one variation of the crest just omitted the "Sugar." But they're not kings of beasts, they're kings of sugar. Maybe the lion's diabetic; I don't know. It just struck me as a dumb thing to do for the sake of some kind of macho pride. The team's named after maple syrup. Live with it.



I'm not disagreeing about mascots.  In fact, I hate 99% of them.  Except this one:  The Phillie Phanatic.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l38/amyw421/phillyphanatic.jpg)
I don't know what it is, really: Animal, alien, what?  But I will say this, us Philadelphians are not big, green, fat things with big noses, but this is our 'representative.' 

But yeah, overall, mascots, eh.  Could do without them.  They don't really 'add' to the overall aspect of the game itself, except maybe for littler kids who aren't really into the 'sporty' side of the game yet, and it acts as an entertainment for them...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 09, 2010, 09:40:34 PM
being in a hangover for two days now  :bluesad: :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 09, 2010, 10:25:35 PM
But I will say this, us Philadelphians are not big, green, fat things with big noses... 


Dunno about that.  I used to see quite a few people meeting that description wandering around South Street on weekends in the 1980s...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 10, 2010, 03:24:04 AM
I think that FIFA should give away free tickets to the Soccer World Cup and not contract poor, underpaid Chinese slave labor to build these horrible mascot toys.

([url]http://5g8.net/uploader/12657232088942_zakumi-2010-mascot.jpg[/url])

 :buggedout: :buggedout:


What animal is that? Looks like somebody crossed a cheetah with a lion.


Its' name is Zakumi and it does look like an unhappy marriage between a cheetah and a lion.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 10, 2010, 05:54:32 AM
I think that FIFA should give away free tickets to the Soccer World Cup and not contract poor, underpaid Chinese slave labor to build these horrible mascot toys.

([url]http://5g8.net/uploader/12657232088942_zakumi-2010-mascot.jpg[/url])

 :buggedout: :buggedout:


What animal is that? Looks like somebody crossed a cheetah with a lion.


Its' name is Zakumi and it does look like an unhappy marriage between a cheetah and a lion.  :buggedout:


 :buggedout:

It looks like it got really high, stole Cloud Strife's hair, dyed it brown, then murdered about twelve people and that's the best poker face it could come up with. 

Our mascots here in Spokane just lack originality.  We don't have any major teams.  Basically, a minor league hockey team (Spokane Chiefs), minor league baseball (Spokane Indians), and arena football (Spokane Shock). 

(http://theisaacfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/just-booomer-225x300.jpg)

Boomer the Bear of the Spokane Chiefs.   :question:  I dunno.  A bear just seems boring, and this one looks like he suffered severe head trauma as a child, and hasn't been quite right since.

(http://www.logancentral.com/Otto%202.jpg)

Then there's Otto of the Spokane Indians.  I don't know what he is, but he looks like the product of the Phanatic (a much better mascot) and Dino from the Flintstones.  I'm sure that was a pretty sight...  What dino...things have to do with Indians is beyond me. 

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_F4bDoHdunwM/Sr7nS2oJ_3I/AAAAAAAAAEg/A-sVxz_NJuc/DSC00325.JPG)

There's really not much I can say about Shox the Fox.  He's not as dopey looking as Boomer, and not quite terrifying like Otto.  At least this one kind of makes sense.  I mean, it's a reach, but it works. 

But yeah... Not a big fan of mascots.  They seldom seem to match up with teams, and for some reason I just want to kick them. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 10, 2010, 06:19:52 AM
It looks like it got really high, stole Cloud Strife's hair, dyed it brown, then murdered about twelve people and that's the best poker face it could come up with. 

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

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Boomer the Bear of the Spokane Chiefs.   :question:  I dunno.  A bear just seems boring, and this one looks like he suffered severe head trauma as a child, and hasn't been quite right since.

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I wish I could find a pic of the Standard Bank duck that appears at cricket matches in South Africa ~ a blue duck with a bright yellow bill.  :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 10, 2010, 07:55:21 AM
Our mascots here in Spokane just lack originality.  We don't have any major teams.  Basically, a minor league hockey team (Spokane Chiefs), minor league baseball (Spokane Indians), and arena football (Spokane Shock).

The Shock. That's another trend in sports teams that has bugged the hell out of me since it started. Using singular nouns, especially those that don't describe a solid thing. I don't know how to put it better. The Spirit, the Shock, the Avalanche - the Stupidity. I don't know who first came up with the idea, but it's another example of somebody doing something different to be cool, and everybody else saying "Let's be different in exactly the same way." :lookingup: More dopey bandwagon behaviour in sports.

And what do you call the individual team members of a team like the Shock? Shockers? Waves? Fingers in the light socket? It doesn't make sense. How hard is it to come up with a plural name that describes a physical thing?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 10, 2010, 08:01:22 AM
Andy you don't happen to have a pic of you and the clown do you?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 10, 2010, 08:08:44 AM
And what do you call the individual team members of a team like the Shock? Shockers? Waves? Fingers in the light socket? It doesn't make sense. How hard is it to come up with a plural name that describes a physical thing?

 :teddyr:

We have strange names for our local sports teams:

Bafana Bafana: the soccer team
Banyana Banyana: the ladies national soccer team
Ama-boko-boko: the Springbok rugby team
Ama-kroko-kroko: the paralympic team [they chose the name themselves]

Annndddd...... last but not least:

Ama-Useless: our national cricket team who never seem to win when it matters. :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 10, 2010, 12:11:58 PM
Speaking of mascots, the Olympic ones really sucked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_mascots


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 10, 2010, 01:31:34 PM
This is my club's mascot, Moonchester.  :bluesad:

(http://www.hsv-ofc-vonderwaterkant.de/090320_Vorbericht%20Manchester%20City/Bilder%20Bericht/Moonchester%2001.jpg)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 10, 2010, 02:50:49 PM
This is my club's mascot, Moonchester.  :bluesad:

([url]http://www.hsv-ofc-vonderwaterkant.de/090320_Vorbericht%20Manchester%20City/Bilder%20Bericht/Moonchester%2001.jpg[/url])


He seems to be holding a giant banana wrapped in a large pair of underpants. Is that supposed to be sexual? :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 10, 2010, 02:56:53 PM
This is my club's mascot, Moonchester.  :bluesad:

([url]http://www.hsv-ofc-vonderwaterkant.de/090320_Vorbericht%20Manchester%20City/Bilder%20Bericht/Moonchester%2001.jpg[/url])


He seems to be holding a giant banana wrapped in a large pair of underpants. Is that supposed to be sexual? :teddyr:


It is a banana, but wrapped in a that season's shirt. Our fans have those banana's because between 1986-1988 we had a player called Imre Varadi. The fans used to chant his name, with it eventually morphing into Imre "Banana". I don't know why, but it stuck and 22 years later we still have those damn bananas.... :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 10, 2010, 03:57:22 PM
Speaking of mascots, the Olympic ones really sucked.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_mascots[/url]


I love the mascots for the Winter Olympics in Turin. There's something so distinctly Italian about a snowball and an ice cube. No? Well, it certainly reflects the spirit of athletic excellence. Not that either? Maybe the spirit of the games themselves, ice and snow, square and round, living and playing together in harmony. Yeah, that's the ticket. :lookingup:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Neve_and_Gliz.jpg/800px-Neve_and_Gliz.jpg)
I mean, how lame is that? It's like somebody just pulled the idea out of their ass at the last minute.

"Hey Giuseppe, boss says you're fired if we don't have a mascot by the end of the day."

"Mama mia! OK Luigi! Mascot's almost done! Let's see....winter....ice and snow.... how do I make characters out of that..... Ah, screw it. Give 'em a snowball and an ice cube for heads, scribble a quick body and stick dopey grins on 'em. Magnifico!"


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on February 10, 2010, 05:05:26 PM
While we're on the topic of the Olympics, I have to say, I really don't like the Olympics.

(*Gets ready to be flamed*)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 10, 2010, 05:12:27 PM
While we're on the topic of the Olympics, I have to say, I really don't like the Olympics.

(*Gets ready to be flamed*)

I hate the Olympics.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 10, 2010, 05:13:06 PM
While we're on the topic of the Olympics, I have to say, I really don't like the Olympics.

(*Gets ready to be flamed*)
Nah, don't worry dude I'm with you on that.  If anyone has to cherish their 15 minutes of fame its the athletes in most of the events.  The big thing for me lately is I'm really against stupid sh*t becomming considered sports.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 10, 2010, 06:01:37 PM
While we're on the topic of the Olympics, I have to say, I really don't like the Olympics.

(*Gets ready to be flamed*)
Nah, don't worry dude I'm with you on that.  If anyone has to cherish their 15 minutes of fame its the athletes in most of the events.  The big thing for me lately is I'm really against stupid sh*t becomming considered sports.

Are you suggesting Beach Volleyball isn't a sport in its own right? And I suppose you don't believe frisbee golf should be recognized either. :teddyr:

Yeah, I think a few of the recent additions to the recognized Olympic sports have somewhat cheapened the games. Personally, I think the Olympics should stick with the traditional Olympic sports, and not throw in every leisure activity somebody feels compelled to formalize. And I don't think professionals should be allowed to compete.

But, in truth, the games don't mean a whole lot to me. The winter games are in Canada this year, and everybody's very excited about it, but I doubt I'll go out of my way to watch it, except maybe to show my daughter some of the stuff they do. She's kind of excited about it. Really, of all the sporting events, I don't mind the Olympics that much. I'm not bombarded with it for six months out of every year, and the athletes are for the most part young amateurs who worked hard to be there and play for the love of their sport. Very few get any lasting fame or fortune out of it. It's probably one of the few times millions of people watch athletes who have real jobs outside the sport they play. I learned that lesson in Grade 7, when we had a real Olympian from the 76 Games visit our class. He was a dentist who also wrestled. I always keep that in mind, that these kids aren't pros. Of course, I still don't find the games interesting to watch.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 10, 2010, 06:03:57 PM
Quote
Are you suggesting Beach Volleyball isn't a sport in its own right? And I suppose you don't believe frisbee golf should be recognized either.

Actually I'll be on the thumb wrestling team this year.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 10, 2010, 08:26:29 PM
While we're on the topic of the Olympics, I have to say, I really don't like the Olympics.

(*Gets ready to be flamed*)

I hate the Olympics.

Agreed.  I think liking the Olympics is against the grain.  I admire the athletes and I'm happy they get to compete, and the nations of the world holding hands and singing "Kumbaya" is sweet, but I'd rather get a tooth pulled than watch a half-hour of the Olympics. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 10, 2010, 09:21:32 PM
no for something completely different: Those E Trade commercials with the talking babies, makes me uncomfortable (shudders from the thought of it)  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 10, 2010, 11:00:35 PM
But I will say this, us Philadelphians are not big, green, fat things with big noses... 


Dunno about that.  I used to see quite a few people meeting that description wandering around South Street on weekends in the 1980s...
Maybe SOuth Street's changed in the past 25 years or so... :wink:

Well, not too much.  We are big and fat...not so much green.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 11, 2010, 01:39:19 AM
He seems to be holding a giant banana wrapped in a large pair of underpants. Is that supposed to be sexual? :teddyr:

No, not sexual, just plagiarism.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: WingedSerpent on February 11, 2010, 10:07:04 AM
While we're on the topic of the Olympics, I have to say, I really don't like the Olympics.

(*Gets ready to be flamed*)

I hate the Olympics.

I know a couple people who have problems with the Olympics.  I don't have any real problem with them except the sports I want to watch are aired usually at 3.am Wednsday on ESPN 7.5.



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 11, 2010, 12:06:45 PM
One thing I hate the most about the Olympics is Bob Costas.  He blathers on forever spouting out random facts (sadly most about death and destruction) about people's home countries. I swear he's one of those guys that worships that sound of his own voice.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 11, 2010, 12:14:50 PM
I recently picked up the Mike Myers "Cat In The Hat" movie for my kid and watched it with him.  I don't really get why it is panned as one of the "worst films ever".  Its actually quite funny in parts. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 11, 2010, 02:23:06 PM
School lunch, bad


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 11, 2010, 02:30:45 PM
School lunch, bad

Um, Bull, I dont think ANYONE likes school lunches.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on February 11, 2010, 09:25:33 PM
I recently picked up the Mike Myers "Cat In The Hat" movie for my kid and watched it with him.  I don't really get why it is panned as one of the "worst films ever".  Its actually quite funny in parts. 

Darksider, you are (and I quote) A Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema.  If it's considered the "worst film ever" you will enjoy it!

 :twirl:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 11, 2010, 09:34:26 PM
I recently picked up the Mike Myers "Cat In The Hat" movie for my kid and watched it with him.  I don't really get why it is panned as one of the "worst films ever".  Its actually quite funny in parts. 

Darksider, you are (and I quote) A Frightening Fanatic of Horrible Cinema.  If it's considered the "worst film ever" you will enjoy it!

 :twirl:

Good point Spazzo, although I'd say its not good because its bad.  Rather its good because its, well, good.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 13, 2010, 04:14:04 PM
Glee sucks


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 13, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Glee sucks

I haven't seen enough of it to say if it sucks, but I don't see what the fuss is about. I haven't felt compelled to watch more than a couple of episodes. Didn't impress me. But that seems to be the pattern with shows that are hyped as hits before they ever hit the air. My experience is any show that is interesting or brilliant in any way will most likely fly under my radar for at least one season, and there's a good chance it will get cancelled before it finds an audience. Glee, on the other hand, was hailed as brilliant and failed to live up to it in my opinion.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on February 13, 2010, 04:33:27 PM
School lunch, bad

Um, Bull, I dont think ANYONE likes school lunches.
School lunch, bad

Um, Bull, I dont think ANYONE likes school lunches.

Actually, I really enjoy my school lunches. My school has a Culinary Arts program and the students help make the lunches. As a result, our school uses good ingredients and makes good food.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 13, 2010, 08:33:46 PM
School lunch, bad

Um, Bull, I dont think ANYONE likes school lunches.
School lunch, bad

Um, Bull, I dont think ANYONE likes school lunches.

Actually, I really enjoy my school lunches. My school has a Culinary Arts program and the students help make the lunches. As a result, our school uses good ingredients and makes good food.  :smile:

I think what Bull meant was like HIGH SCHOOL lunches, which i agree with. When i went to high school, i lived offa blue laffy taffys and pudding pops cuz the rest of the slop was just to dern nasty.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on February 13, 2010, 08:51:32 PM
School lunch, bad

Um, Bull, I dont think ANYONE likes school lunches.
School lunch, bad

Um, Bull, I dont think ANYONE likes school lunches.

Actually, I really enjoy my school lunches. My school has a Culinary Arts program and the students help make the lunches. As a result, our school uses good ingredients and makes good food.  :smile:

I think what Bull meant was like HIGH SCHOOL lunches, which i agree with. When i went to high school, i lived offa blue laffy taffys and pudding pops cuz the rest of the slop was just to dern nasty.

I too am talking about High School lunches.  :wink: I am very lucky! 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 13, 2010, 09:03:58 PM
I find taking a dump to be spiritual and relaxing.  Its a time when a man can truly be alone with his thoughts in the world.  I doubt this really belongs in this thread because most guys feel that way.   :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 13, 2010, 09:34:32 PM
I find taking a dump to be spiritual and relaxing.  Its a time when a man can truly be alone with his thoughts in the world.  I doubt this really belongs in this thread because most guys feel that way.   :teddyr:

True enough. Sadly, wives and kids do not appreciate the sanctity with which men regard the bathroom. Sitting on the can is as close as many of us come to meditation. When I'm in there, I want no one knocking, no one trying to talk through the door, and especially no one just walking in to get something. It's the bathroom - a place to enjoy peace and solitude and quiet reflection a few minutes at a time. It must be respected.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 13, 2010, 09:40:14 PM
I find taking a dump to be spiritual and relaxing.  Its a time when a man can truly be alone with his thoughts in the world.  I doubt this really belongs in this thread because most guys feel that way.   :teddyr:

True enough. Sadly, wives and kids do not appreciate the sanctity with which men regard the bathroom. Sitting on the can is as close as many of us come to meditation. When I'm in there, I want no one knocking, no one trying to talk through the door, and especially no one just walking in to get something. It's the bathroom - a place to enjoy peace and solitude and quiet reflection a few minutes at a time. It must be respected.
I have learned much in the bathroom thanks to my reading material.  I heard once there was a Jeopardy contestant who had a decent reign as champion.  When asked how he became so smart he replied with "I read the encyclopedia in the bathroom".  I'd love the proof of that as fact because it would back up my beliefs in the importance of private time in the bathroom.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 13, 2010, 10:03:07 PM
Shakira, although adorable and sexy, has zero...and I mean zero...skills in the singing talent department.  She sings like Chewbacca. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Paquita on February 13, 2010, 10:10:59 PM
I find taking a dump to be spiritual and relaxing.  Its a time when a man can truly be alone with his thoughts in the world.  I doubt this really belongs in this thread because most guys feel that way.   :teddyr:

True enough. Sadly, wives and kids do not appreciate the sanctity with which men regard the bathroom. Sitting on the can is as close as many of us come to meditation. When I'm in there, I want no one knocking, no one trying to talk through the door, and especially no one just walking in to get something. It's the bathroom - a place to enjoy peace and solitude and quiet reflection a few minutes at a time. It must be respected.

I have learned much in the bathroom thanks to my reading material.  I heard once there was a Jeopardy contestant who had a decent reign as champion.  When asked how he became so smart he replied with "I read the encyclopedia in the bathroom".  I'd love the proof of that as fact because it would back up my beliefs in the importance of private time in the bathroom.
Oh women appreciate this too!  Me and 2 other girls at work have a bathroom ring going where we watch the bathroom and alert eachother when the coast is clear and we can have "alone time".


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 14, 2010, 01:16:15 PM
I find taking a dump to be spiritual and relaxing.  Its a time when a man can truly be alone with his thoughts in the world.  I doubt this really belongs in this thread because most guys feel that way.   :teddyr:

I enjoy lumpin' as much as the next guy, but MAN i hate wiping. Cuz like, SOMETIMES theres that load that left a blazing trail of CARNAGE behind it and it takes FOREVER to clean it all up and I end up using like half the toilet paper roll.

But those dumps where you just sit, relax, enjoy it for the moment, and when its over you find out it was one of those really SOLID ones that duzznt leave a mess? PURE EXTACY.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Javakoala on February 14, 2010, 06:57:22 PM
I find taking a dump to be spiritual and relaxing.  Its a time when a man can truly be alone with his thoughts in the world.  I doubt this really belongs in this thread because most guys feel that way.   :teddyr:

I enjoy lumpin' as much as the next guy, but MAN i hate wiping. Cuz like, SOMETIMES theres that load that left a blazing trail of CARNAGE behind it and it takes FOREVER to clean it all up and I end up using like half the toilet paper roll.

But those dumps where you just sit, relax, enjoy it for the moment, and when its over you find out it was one of those really SOLID ones that duzznt leave a mess? PURE EXTACY.

Well, this is one thread that has gone down the toilet.   :tongueout: :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 16, 2010, 10:19:21 PM
Moshing at concerts...don't get it, never will.  I don't find enjoying music should have anything to do with running into people violently. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 17, 2010, 11:45:40 AM
Moshing at concerts...don't get it, never will.  I don't find enjoying music should have anything to do with running into people violently. 

I did that once at a punk concert and found it the only enjoyable thing about the experience.  It distracted me from the awful music. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 17, 2010, 11:48:25 AM
Moshing at concerts...don't get it, never will.  I don't find enjoying music should have anything to do with running into people violently. 

I did that once at a punk concert and found it the only enjoyable thing about the experience.  It distracted me from the awful music. 

Really? I LOVE moshing around at concerts! Otherwise, i could just STAND there and get the same experience I would from listening to it on the radio!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 17, 2010, 11:59:52 AM
Moshing at concerts...don't get it, never will.  I don't find enjoying music should have anything to do with running into people violently. 

I did that once at a punk concert and found it the only enjoyable thing about the experience.  It distracted me from the awful music. 

Really? I LOVE moshing around at concerts! Otherwise, i could just STAND there and get the same experience I would from listening to it on the radio!
Oddly I run around and smash into people when listening to the radio.  :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on February 17, 2010, 02:51:16 PM
I think Olympic Curling is actually quite interesting to watch.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JJ80 on February 17, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
I think Olympic Curling is actually quite interesting to watch.

I think curling is the only reason we watch the winter games here in Scotland after some good results over the years.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on February 17, 2010, 07:44:49 PM
I really, really hate the smell and taste of coffee.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on February 17, 2010, 08:06:51 PM
Moshing at concerts...don't get it, never will.  I don't find enjoying music should have anything to do with running into people violently. 

I did that once at a punk concert and found it the only enjoyable thing about the experience.  It distracted me from the awful music. 

Really? I LOVE moshing around at concerts! Otherwise, i could just STAND there and get the same experience I would from listening to it on the radio!
Oddly I run around and smash into people when listening to the radio.  :wink:
Not in your car, surely!  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 17, 2010, 08:38:42 PM
I really, really hate the smell and taste of coffee.
BLASPHEMER! :hot:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 17, 2010, 09:00:09 PM
Moshing at concerts...don't get it, never will.  I don't find enjoying music should have anything to do with running into people violently.  

I did that once at a punk concert and found it the only enjoyable thing about the experience.  It distracted me from the awful music.  

Really? I LOVE moshing around at concerts! Otherwise, i could just STAND there and get the same experience I would from listening to it on the radio!
Oddly I run around and smash into people when listening to the radio.  :wink:
Not in your car, surely!  :buggedout:
No but if it were your car Newt then by all means.   :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on February 18, 2010, 04:39:26 AM
I guess I'm old fashioned (even though I'm only in my early thirties) but I just don't get why any guy would want his ear (or anything else) pierced.  I mean, I know in the old days they used to do it because (among other things) they thought it would make your ear sight better, but still...



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on February 18, 2010, 07:58:10 AM
I really, really hate the smell and taste of coffee.

Same here.  For some I reason I never got started drinking the stuff, I hate the taste of it.  Over the years the smell has gotten more and more appalling to me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 18, 2010, 11:16:53 AM
I guess I'm old fashioned (even though I'm only in my early thirties) but I just don't get why any guy would want his ear (or anything else) pierced.  I mean, I know in the old days they used to do it because (among other things) they thought it would make your ear sight better, but still...



hey, i got my lip and ear pierced, but only because i'm a PUNK :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 18, 2010, 11:26:07 AM
I really, really hate the smell and taste of coffee.

Same here.  For some I reason I never got started drinking the stuff, I hate the taste of it.  Over the years the smell has gotten more and more appalling to me.

hawhaw, dude, you missed like a whole SUb-THREAD about this a few pages back.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on February 18, 2010, 05:04:22 PM
I think Olympic Curling is actually quite interesting to watch.

I think curling is the only reason we watch the winter games here in Scotland after some good results over the years.

Our US men's team is 0-4, but on a brighter note, our women's team is only 0-2  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JJ80 on February 18, 2010, 05:52:10 PM
The Swiss did for Britain's Men today.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 20, 2010, 04:46:02 PM
I don't mind watching (some) award shows, but I really hate the goddamn musical performances.  I don't give a rat's burning ass about Fall Out Boy or Lady Gaga, just tell me who best picture is!  :hatred:  Thankfully, not every awards banquet is like this.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 20, 2010, 07:46:14 PM
Even as a kid, I was never much interested in anything superhero related.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 20, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
I don't mind watching (some) award shows, but I really hate the goddamn musical performances.  I don't give a rat's burning ass about Fall Out Boy or Lady Gaga, just tell me who best picture is!  :hatred:  Thankfully, not every awards banquet is like this.

Actually, I find that most of them are. I had a particular love-hate relationship with the Ontario Community Newspapers Association awards banquet. Quit padding the thing out with inside jokes and crappy tributes and hand out the damn trophies.

Hell, I've seen fall fairs where kids have waited through speeches and singers to find out who won two bucks for the best decorated bike in the parade. Cripes, these are little kids who are itching to get on the midway. Don't make them stand around through stuff that would put a grownup to sleep.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 21, 2010, 01:17:10 PM
I think blackface is hilarious. sue me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 21, 2010, 03:34:15 PM
Granted I'm not a huge fan but I've seen much worse comedians than Carrot Top. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Silverlady on February 21, 2010, 06:31:18 PM



It makes me so mad when you're driving on the road and you see someone in the car in front of you throw wrappers from burgers or whatever out the window! 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on February 21, 2010, 06:46:18 PM
Silverlady I don't think you're alone there at all...someone did that once when I was driving and the damn wrapper and cup nearly came right on top of my windshield  :hatred: ...had I had a cellphone, I would have phoned and reported the driver.

By which I should clarify I would have pulled over and parked and then phoned. People driving and talking on cellphones is something else which I hate but truth be told, I hate cellphones in general which is why I don't own one (although I suppose they might prove useful in an emergency). I've seen people in towns driving around talking on cells...yeah like your reaction time is really going to be enough when you're distracted to stop then if someone unwittingly pops out on the road in front of you...don't think so.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 21, 2010, 07:11:38 PM
The ones that bug me are the smokers flicking butts out the window of the car in front of me. At night, I can see the thing throwing sparks as it bounces back at my car. I have a lot less tolerance for smoking than I used to have, but I won't argue with a person's right to do it privately. But please dispose of the butt properly. I don't like seeing them all over the ground, and I sure don't appreciate seeing them flying at me on the road.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 21, 2010, 07:21:22 PM
The ones that bug me are the smokers flicking butts out the window in front of me. At night, I can see the thing throwing sparks as it bounces back at my car. I have a lot less tolerance for smoking than I used to have, but I won't argue with a person's right to do it privately. But please dispose of the butt properly. I don't like seeing them all over the ground, and I sure don't appreciate seeing them flying at me on the road.

Cig butts are the most disgusting when you're digging in the sand at the beach and you come across one. 
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Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 21, 2010, 07:28:27 PM
The ones that bug me are the smokers flicking butts out the window in front of me. At night, I can see the thing throwing sparks as it bounces back at my car. I have a lot less tolerance for smoking than I used to have, but I won't argue with a person's right to do it privately. But please dispose of the butt properly. I don't like seeing them all over the ground, and I sure don't appreciate seeing them flying at me on the road.

Cig butts are the most disgusting when you're digging in the sand at the beach and you come across one. 
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Or when you're at the playground with the kids, and you have to warn them not to pick the things up because some a$$holes like to sit around there at night and chuck their butts where kids will be playing the next day.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 21, 2010, 08:49:44 PM
The ones that bug me are the smokers flicking butts out the window in front of me. At night, I can see the thing throwing sparks as it bounces back at my car. I have a lot less tolerance for smoking than I used to have, but I won't argue with a person's right to do it privately. But please dispose of the butt properly. I don't like seeing them all over the ground, and I sure don't appreciate seeing them flying at me on the road.

Cig butts are the most disgusting when you're digging in the sand at the beach and you come across one. 
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Or when you're at the playground with the kids, and you have to warn them not to pick the things up because some a$$holes like to sit around there at night and chuck their butts where kids will be playing the next day.


or when your at your own home and you have friends who smoke and 'accidentally' leave it on your new bamboo floor. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Paquita on February 21, 2010, 11:18:21 PM
or when your at your own home and you have friends who smoke and 'accidentally' leave it on your new bamboo floor. 

Oh man! If that was my house! I'd "accidentally" re-light it and put it out on their faces!  That's so rude!  I hate messy guests!  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on February 22, 2010, 01:31:08 PM
Being from Newfoundland, Just being a non-drinker is very against the grain. They even use Newfie Screech, a very strong alcoholic beverage, to make honorary Newfoundlanders here. I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 22, 2010, 02:25:21 PM
Being from Newfoundland, Just being a non-drinker is very against the grain. They even use Newfie Screech, a very strong alcoholic beverage, to make honorary Newfoundlanders here. I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole.
what about a 10' 1" pole?  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 22, 2010, 09:44:15 PM
I dislike Ellen DeGeneres.  Well, maybe not her 'personally', as I don't know her in that capacity.  But as an 'entertainer'/comedienne/talk show host, I really don't find her all that personable or entertaining.

I DISLIKE the UFC/MMA.  I used to, at one point, follow it to some degree.  But over the past couple of years, I guess with the recent 'explosion' of sorts in it's popularity, I've lost most interest in it.  I used to watch it when they had Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn and Tank Abbott in it's infancy.  Lately, it seems like it's 3-5 minute rounds of two guys looking at each other circling around, until finally the judges just make a decision (not the athlete's fault, really, I think there's been a bunch of 'rules' added.)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on February 22, 2010, 11:07:06 PM
I find Megan Fox to be unatractive.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 22, 2010, 11:23:32 PM
I don't care for the shows 24 and Lost.  I also used to like Heroes, but I now find it tragically boring. 

I do not like the following groups/musicians:
The Eagles, The Gorillaz, Linkin Park, Egypt Central, Mars Volta, New Found Glory, All American Rejects, newer Green Day (post Insomniac, really), Blur...  That's all I can think of right now. 

I don't care for Sprite.  I drink it on occasion, but I don't see what all the hype is about. 

I don't care for McDonald's.  Apart from the Chicken McNuggets, they're pretty lame. 

I hate Jersey Shore, but I probably already said that. 

I find a lot of rant-based stand up comedy to be more heavy-handed than funny.  Even when I agree with it, I would rather someone just tell me a f**king joke rather than be noisy about politics and philosophy for the sake of cheesy applause. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on February 23, 2010, 12:26:22 AM
I find Megan Fox to be unatractive.

I don't find her unattractive necessarily...  But she sure sucks at acting! :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 23, 2010, 01:20:24 AM
I find Megan Fox to be unatractive.

I don't find her unattractive necessarily...  But she sure sucks at acting! :buggedout: :buggedout:

I dunno.  I always thought she was nice to look at, but not nice to listen to.  Thank God for mute buttons.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on February 23, 2010, 05:09:51 AM
I dislike Ellen DeGeneres.  Well, maybe not her 'personally', as I don't know her in that capacity.  But as an 'entertainer'/comedienne/talk show host, I really don't find her all that personable or entertaining.

I DISLIKE the UFC/MMA.  I used to, at one point, follow it to some degree.  But over the past couple of years, I guess with the recent 'explosion' of sorts in it's popularity, I've lost most interest in it.  I used to watch it when they had Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn and Tank Abbott in it's infancy.  Lately, it seems like it's 3-5 minute rounds of two guys looking at each other circling around, until finally the judges just make a decision (not the athlete's fault, really, I think there's been a bunch of 'rules' added.)

Yeah, UFC was very entertaining in the early days, but lately it is pretty dull.  It's a combination of too many safety rules and people understanding the ways to win better.  I liked it better when it was basically a pit fight between a couple random people.  Yeah, guess I'm blood thirsty.  Oh well.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on February 23, 2010, 07:27:28 AM
I dislike Ellen DeGeneres.  Well, maybe not her 'personally', as I don't know her in that capacity.  But as an 'entertainer'/comedienne/talk show host, I really don't find her all that personable or entertaining.

I DISLIKE the UFC/MMA.  I used to, at one point, follow it to some degree.  But over the past couple of years, I guess with the recent 'explosion' of sorts in it's popularity, I've lost most interest in it.  I used to watch it when they had Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn and Tank Abbott in it's infancy.  Lately, it seems like it's 3-5 minute rounds of two guys looking at each other circling around, until finally the judges just make a decision (not the athlete's fault, really, I think there's been a bunch of 'rules' added.)

Yeah, UFC was very entertaining in the early days, but lately it is pretty dull.  It's a combination of too many safety rules and people understanding the ways to win better.  I liked it better when it was basically a pit fight between a couple random people.  Yeah, guess I'm blood thirsty.  Oh well.

I still like it now, but man it was crazy awesome back in the early days.  I have tremendous respect for the art of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and it's great to see a guy with an awesome ground-and-pound game, or a lot of submission attempts, but all too often it's just one guy laying on top of the other guy for the whole round.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 23, 2010, 07:47:01 AM
I'm comfortable with buying lingerie and shoes for my lady friends. No embarrassment here. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 23, 2010, 08:31:47 AM
I'm comfortable with buying lingerie and shoes for my lady friends. No embarrassment here. :teddyr:
good man!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 23, 2010, 08:53:53 AM
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I don't care for Sprite.  I drink it on occasion, but I don't see what all the hype is about.  

I feel the same way about Mountain Dew and ALL diet sodas. Matter of fact I extremely hate the taste of diet sodas. 

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I don't care for McDonald's.  Apart from the Chicken McNuggets, they're pretty lame.
I think I have contributed less than 10 bucks to their overswelled purse in the past 5 years.  I do like their breakfast sandwiches but generally don't buy them much anymore.  I honestly don't get how anyone can say McDonalds is anywhere near Burger King in quality.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 23, 2010, 09:25:59 AM
I find a lot of rant-based stand up comedy to be more heavy-handed than funny.  Even when I agree with it, I would rather someone just tell me a f**king joke rather than be noisy about politics and philosophy for the sake of cheesy applause. 

Absolutely. When a comedian is getting applause or cheering instead of laughter, it ain't funny. And if somebody has a message for the audience, it's going to be much better received if it's funny. I hate it when comedians don't just let the jokes speak for themselves. The late George Carlin is a favourite example of mine. He was hilarious throughout the 70s and 80s, and he always had a message, but he stuck to pointing out the absurdity in the customs, institutions and rules he disagreed with. By the 90s, he was still funny, but would insert serious statements of opinion, as if we couldn't understand what he was saying. And those would get applause. By the end, I just found him bitter and mean. His message was consistent all the way through, but his style went from observation and gentle mockery to venomous, contemptuous ranting. I got what he was saying either way, but it stopped being funny, and comedy has to be funny, even when it's about a serious subject that you're very passionate about.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on February 23, 2010, 09:58:08 AM
and comedy has to be funny, even when it's about a serious subject that you're very passionate about.

I agree ~ the SA comic Barry Hilton has a way with poking fun at the SA situation without having to resort to rude language or toilet humour. Example:

BH: "I spent a couple of months in England and got so homesick. So homesick in fact that when I heard I was going home, I was the first guy on the plane. I was sitting there, thinking, man, I'm going home to Johannesburg when this idiot tapped me on the shoulder and said: "Excuse me, you're in my seat." I said to him: "Not my problem, boet [brother], I was here first." He said: "OK, you fly the plane then."  :teddyr:

I can also agree with Barry ~ I was in Italy for a week in 2003 and when I got back to SA and landed at Johannesburg, I was so happy to be home (although I live in Pretoria) that I nearly hugged the customs officer.  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on February 23, 2010, 11:41:56 AM
I find a lot of rant-based stand up comedy to be more heavy-handed than funny.  Even when I agree with it, I would rather someone just tell me a f**king joke rather than be noisy about politics and philosophy for the sake of cheesy applause. 

Absolutely. When a comedian is getting applause or cheering instead of laughter, it ain't funny. And if somebody has a message for the audience, it's going to be much better received if it's funny. I hate it when comedians don't just let the jokes speak for themselves. The late George Carlin is my favourite example of mine. He was hilarious throughout the 70s and 80s, and he always had a message, but he stuck to pointing out the absurdity in the customs, institutions and rules he disagreed with. By the 90s, he was still funny, but would insert serious statements of opinion, as if we couldn't understand what he was saying. And those would get applause. By the end, I just found him bitter and mean. His message was consistent all the way through, but his style went from observation and gentle mockery to venomous, contemptuous ranting. I got what he was saying either way, but it stopped being funny, and comedy has to be funny, even when it's about a serious subject that you're very passionate about.
Totally agree.  I saw a Bill Maher stand up special recently.  Mind you, I do think he's a funny guy, but there were parts of the special where it seemed less COMEDY and more "This is my opinion of the government, aren't I smart?". 

Which is why I like Lewis Black.  He does some political/religion stuff, but has actual JOKES and not just RANTS.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: 3mnkids on February 23, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
I hate lobster. Hate it!   I dont understand why so many people like it. And to see the poor things in the tanks is just so depressing   :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 23, 2010, 02:45:31 PM
Cruise ships- over priced, poorly maintained, food is pre cooked, lots o diseases spread!  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 26, 2010, 12:22:10 PM
I often laugh when I see people walking around on Ash Wednesday with ashes on their forehead.  I'm sorry to people who do this and I understand the symbolism but it looks goofy. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Paquita on February 27, 2010, 10:57:53 AM
Am I the only one that actually likes McDonalds?  I used to kind of pretend I didn't like them because I got tired of all the health lectures.. but I f'n love McDonalds!  McDonalds breakfast is sooooooooo good!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on February 27, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
I like McDonald's.  Their burgers are good, and if you're lucky enough to get some fries that were made in the last hour, they're great!  I could also live on sausage McMuffins with egg.  I make my own version at home, which are hopefully a little better for me  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on February 27, 2010, 06:07:14 PM
I hate Gt 4. not illegal street racing?  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 27, 2010, 09:14:08 PM
Yep, McDonalds is good. All the fast food chains have their strengths. McDonalds fries are great when they're fresh, I love Big Macs, and the Sausage McGriddle with Cheese is something I look forward to anytime I have to get up at the crack of stupid and drive somewhere. I usually hit a McDonalds about the time hunger sets in.

Now, for quality fast food, I like Wendy's double with cheese. They're fresh, they're juicy and the meat is really the star of the show. I know a good burger when the flavour of the meat is what I notice most. Can't say that about many of them. Usually, you get a lot of garnish and seasoning on a dry, bland patty.

That reminds me. I often enjoy plain foods, or at least those dressed up just enough to enhance the flavour. If I go to a Tim Hortons, I'll often get the plain donut. It's usually fresh, lightly sweet and not covered in sticky icing, sprinkles or whatever else. Can't stant sprinkles, or coarse sugar on top of baking. It's like biting into food that has grit in it. Don't like the sensation.

On the one hand, I love foods with strong and complex flavours, but on the other hand, sometimes less is more. I'm the same way with hot dogs. A little bit of mustard and relish tastes better to me than a whole load of toppings. And although I like the works on a pizza, simple pepperoni and cheese tastes fantastic sometimes. And where did anyone get the idea that vanilla ice cream is plain? Vanilla's an awesome flavour, when it's done right.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on February 28, 2010, 01:19:36 AM
Wendy's BACONATOR  is arguably the most perfect food on the planet.

Also, the Texas ice cream store franchise BRAUM'S has a double third pounder that is to die for!!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on February 28, 2010, 07:47:43 AM
And although I like the works on a pizza, simple pepperoni and cheese tastes fantastic sometimes.

There was a restaurant called Pizza and Pasta - I used to get a plain cheese pizza there.  It was fantastic.  Just the simple flavor of good mozzarella, good tomato sauce, and that's about it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 28, 2010, 08:01:06 AM
And although I like the works on a pizza, simple pepperoni and cheese tastes fantastic sometimes.

There was a restaurant called Pizza and Pasta - I used to get a plain cheese pizza there.  It was fantastic.  Just the simple flavor of good mozzarella, good tomato sauce, and that's about it.

Cheese pizza is great. Cheese and sauce is all you need if it's good pizza, but a lot of people would say it has nothing on it at all.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on February 28, 2010, 08:47:13 AM
Since we're on the topic of food; aside from their bagels, Dunkin Donuts offers little I take interest in.  I find their coffee is greatly inconsistent, their donuts are filled with air & find their breakfast sandwiches subpar.  I've been in heated arguments with people who claim their donuts are better than Krispy Kreme. I simply don't get the standpoint.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on February 28, 2010, 11:57:20 PM
Since we're on the topic of food; aside from their bagels, Dunkin Donuts offers little I take interest in.  I find their coffee is greatly inconsistent, their donuts are filled with air & find their breakfast sandwiches subpar.  I've been in heated arguments with people who claim their donuts are better than Krispy Kreme. I simply don't get the standpoint.

Don't know that I've ever tried Dunkin Donuts. The only American donut chain to even try and go up against Tims was Krispy Kreme, and I never understood what the fuss was about that. When the first one opened, it was on the TV news, people were camped out to be first in the door, and others would drive for an hour or more to pick up a few dozen so they could treat the office or whatever. There was a brief period when community groups were hauling Krispy Kremes into town for fundraisers. They were good donuts, but not worth all that, and I can't say they had anything good beyond their basic glazed donut. But people who had never heard of Krispy Kreme bought into the hype, and it was a novelty for a while. Then it quietly vanished from the Canadian landscape. The emperor had no clothes.

As for Tim Hortons, the coffee and donuts are good, and it's usually convenient to go there while driving, and the service is fast. But again, nothing exceptional. What Tim Hortons has really mastered are the arts of corporate branding and building customer loyalty. This is why a donut chain that has been around since the mid-60s suddenly exploded in the last 20 years or so. They got better at selling themselves.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on March 01, 2010, 08:28:42 AM
Same thing happened with Krispy Kreme here.  There's some local donut place that everybody's been going to for 50 years.  Krispy Kreme came to town and after a week or so, the novelty wore off and I never heard of them again. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 01, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
See I personally love Krispy Kreme but...as Andy C and Jack mentioned...they were out of business here within a year.  WTF!!???


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on March 03, 2010, 02:09:30 AM
See I personally love Krispy Kreme but...as Andy C and Jack mentioned...they were out of business here within a year.  WTF!!???

Was this during the whole "low carb" dieting fad?  I'm told that really hurt the Krispy Kreme business (among others.)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Silverlady on March 03, 2010, 08:30:19 AM


Still on a food roll here, no pun intended.  Sorry,  :lookingup: couldn't help myself.

Anyway, I prefer Burger King to McDonalds, mainly because at McD they always screw up my order. But I think their $1.00 ice cream sundaes are great! Ask for hot fudge to go with it!

On the other hand, BK has an inexpensive great Hershey pie slice for dessert!

Damn, I love sweets! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 03, 2010, 08:44:46 AM
See I personally love Krispy Kreme but...as Andy C and Jack mentioned...they were out of business here within a year.  WTF!!???

Was this during the whole "low carb" dieting fad?  I'm told that really hurt the Krispy Kreme business (among others.)

Don't know if that's the cause, but I can see where being strictly a donut shop might hurt business. People cutting out carbs will certainly hurt, and just the fact that people don't always want donuts. Hard to be competitive when you aren't competing with the vast majority of restaurants.

I know during the same time Tim Hortons has expanded, they've diversified their menu. Coffee and donuts are still tops, but soups, fresh sandwiches, salads and other offerings have made it an option for lunch. And they've recently been getting into breakfast sandwiches. They're not even trying to compete with donut shops anymore. Tims is going after a piece of McDonalds' market, and succeeding. I know if I'm out on the road in the morning, I'll plan to swing by a Tim Hortons if there's one on the way. A lot of Canadians typically start their workday in the Tim Hortons drive-thru. But if I need breakfast, I might go to McDonalds for a McMuffin or a McGriddle instead. Tims adds sausage and egg on and English muffin, and suddenly there's less reason to deviate from the routine.

McDonalds has responded by pushing gourmet coffee, but I don't think that has the same advantage. People who drink Tim's coffee love it so much they sell their own brand of ground coffee and coffee MAKERS, for people to make their own. And the people who are really serious about their coffee are going to Starbucks or independent coffee shops.

It's little wonder of over 30 Krispy Kreme locations planned in Canada, fewer than 20 opened and only about five remain. There's just no niche for them to fill here. That and Tims customers can be a pretty loyal and patriotic bunch as a whole, and more than a little bit resentful of an American Interloper coming to hurt their favourite coffee chain. Krispy Kreme didn't have a chance.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 03, 2010, 12:31:32 PM
Well I hope for Canada you don't have Dunkin Donus invade Andy.  They are like rabbits.  I love on an island roughly 20 to 30 miles long and there are 14.   :buggedout:

Have we talked about Starbucks yet?  I think one of their coffees almost gave me heart palpatations.  Overpriced and way too strong I find coffee wise. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 03, 2010, 05:46:41 PM
Well I hope for Canada you don't have Dunkin Donus invade Andy.  They are like rabbits.  I love on an island roughly 20 to 30 miles long and there are 14.   :buggedout:

Have we talked about Starbucks yet?  I think one of their coffees almost gave me heart palpatations.  Overpriced and way too strong I find coffee wise. 

Sounds like roughly the same distribution as Tim Hortons. When I lived in the city, I could pass four of them on my way to work.

Since you mention Starbucks, I will say that a lot of the coffee sold as "premium" tastes like crap. Harsh, bitter and too strong. Starbucks is one place that I don't particularly care for the coffee. And I actually liked McDonalds coffee before they switched to the new and improved coffee. Now it tastes like garbage.

I like a nice, smooth, balanced flavour in my coffee. Tim Horton's is pretty good, although the amount of cream or sugar they put in can vary from place to place. I'm lucky to have a good independent coffee shop on my walk to work, where cream and sugar is measured in more of a "say when" fashion. Can't say I've had a bad cup there yet.

And I don't think I've ever gotten a bad cup of coffee at a convenience store. In some ways, it seems like the more you pay for your coffee, the crappier it tastes. Premium coffee, as far as I'm concerned, is a crock.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on March 03, 2010, 07:01:58 PM
I am moraly opposed to blu-ray. I feel dirty even touching them.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on March 03, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
Anne Hathaway is the MOST gorgeous woman in Hollywood, and I will loudly and verbally taunt anyone who disagrees with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 03, 2010, 08:32:43 PM
I think goldfish are aweomse as pets.  They're cheap and oddly seem to last longer than your average tropical fish lot.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 03, 2010, 09:34:44 PM
I like rap.  It's more than just "talking and rhyming" and is quite an art form when done properly.  You don't necessarily have to like what they rap ABOUT in modern rap, but they have the right to say what they want.  Although, I prefer the more old school rappers: Public Enemy, NWA, Run DMC, Kurtis Blow and Grandmaster Flash as they were more politically and socially critical and actually had something to say.

Ren and Stimpy was a good show.  A lot of people talk badly about it, but overall it was a pretty well done show with quite good animation.

I like David Spade.  I think he's funny and vastly underrated.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on March 04, 2010, 10:54:35 AM
I really like Insane Clown Posse. Most of the people who I talk to hate their fan-base more than thier music, which I can understand. Most Juggalos are tools. But their raps are good.

Also, i dont understand why ANYONE would ever want to get married. No one should ever have to be chained down by another human being. I know a lot of families that have gone thru a lot of hardships because of marraige problems.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 04, 2010, 12:25:58 PM
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Also, i dont understand why ANYONE would ever want to get married. No one should ever have to be chained down by another human being. I know a lot of families that have gone thru a lot of hardships because of marraige problems.
You're a smart man, don't ever change.  I love my wife  but I've told her I'd never do the marraige thing again if something forbid happened to our marraige/us.  Nor would I stay attached to any one person. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on March 04, 2010, 12:32:26 PM
Also, i dont understand why ANYONE would ever want to get married. No one should ever have to be chained down by another human being.

If you feel this way, you absolutely shouldn't get married.  That may be where a lot of people who do, go wrong.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on March 04, 2010, 03:45:31 PM
I really like Insane Clown Posse. Most of the people who I talk to hate their fan-base more than thier music, which I can understand. Most Juggalos are tools. But their raps are good.

Also, i dont understand why ANYONE would ever want to get married. No one should ever have to be chained down by another human being. I know a lot of families that have gone thru a lot of hardships because of marraige problems.

So, I guess you don't believe in any long-term relationships, right?  Any serious relationship ties you down, the only difference is whether they're social and emotional, or also have legal implications.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 04, 2010, 06:18:31 PM
I really like Insane Clown Posse. Most of the people who I talk to hate their fan-base more than thier music, which I can understand. Most Juggalos are tools. But their raps are good.

Also, i dont understand why ANYONE would ever want to get married. No one should ever have to be chained down by another human being. I know a lot of families that have gone thru a lot of hardships because of marraige problems.

So, I guess you don't believe in any long-term relationships, right?  Any serious relationship ties you down, the only difference is whether they're social and emotional, or also have legal implications.

Actually, living with somebody for a period of time has legal implications whether you're married or not. I can't speak to the laws everywhere, but I know it works that way here and a lot of other places. When it comes to family law, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Even if you just want to play house for a while, there are obligations.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: WingedSerpent on March 04, 2010, 06:23:12 PM


Remember the song Informer by Snow from the 90's?  One of my favorites. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 04, 2010, 08:11:55 PM
I really like listening to John Denver.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 04, 2010, 10:51:48 PM
I really like Insane Clown Posse. Most of the people who I talk to hate their fan-base more than thier music, which I can understand. Most Juggalos are tools. But their raps are good.

Also, i dont understand why ANYONE would ever want to get married. No one should ever have to be chained down by another human being. I know a lot of families that have gone thru a lot of hardships because of marraige problems.
Agreed on both points.  It's not that I dislike ICP.  I just really, really, hate the little 15 year old poser kids with hoodies and hockey jerseys trying to be hardcore, going: "I'm a Juggalo, yo, don't fu*k with me."  While holding a bottle of Faygo soda.  I do like several of ICP's songs/albums.

As for marriage, well, I went on a 10 minute rant in high school about the negativeness of marriage.  I was told to 'see a counselor.' :lookingup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on March 05, 2010, 12:35:34 AM
I married my best friend 25 years ago, and she is snoozing in the next room as I type this.  She is still my best friend.

Sorry, dude, but MARRIAGE ROCKS!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on March 06, 2010, 06:26:33 PM
Word Perfect-it sucks and it won't convert word 07 to word perfect.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 06, 2010, 09:26:39 PM
I married my best friend 25 years ago, and she is snoozing in the next room as I type this.  She is still my best friend.

Sorry, dude, but MARRIAGE ROCKS!
All good.  To each their own.  I just always looked at it like this: you both love each other.  That's fine.  Live together, be exclusive.  But why go the extra step, buy a ring that's way above price, spend $10,000 to have dozens of people 'look at you' and make a spectacle of yourself, for any reason than a selfish desire to say "We're spiritually connected."  I know plenty of people who've gone through the whole 'marriage' thing cause they were "soulmates" only to divorce five years later.  I know plenty of other people who never bother to marry, get engaged, nothing, but they live together and have been in a steady, exclusive relationship for 20 years. :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 07, 2010, 08:30:22 AM
I never quite understood what the hoopla about The Lion King was.  I feel its kind of a subpar Disney film


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: RCMerchant on March 07, 2010, 09:00:58 AM
I never quite understood what the hoopla about The Lion King was.  I feel its kind of a subpar Disney film

I don't like ANY of the Disney films made in the last 30 years! ANY!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on March 07, 2010, 09:07:54 AM
I married my best friend 25 years ago, and she is snoozing in the next room as I type this.  She is still my best friend.

Sorry, dude, but MARRIAGE ROCKS!
All good.  To each their own.  I just always looked at it like this: you both love each other.  That's fine.  Live together, be exclusive.  But why go the extra step, buy a ring that's way above price, spend $10,000 to have dozens of people 'look at you' and make a spectacle of yourself, for any reason than a selfish desire to say "We're spiritually connected."  I know plenty of people who've gone through the whole 'marriage' thing cause they were "soulmates" only to divorce five years later.  I know plenty of other people who never bother to marry, get engaged, nothing, but they live together and have been in a steady, exclusive relationship for 20 years. :wink:

As far as "Why?" goes . . .
I am a Christian and marriage is the ordinance that God created and commanded for us.  I don't expect the world to share my belief system, but I am going to try to the best of my ability to honor it.    It doesn't have to be all expensive and fancy, but those vows do mean something, and exchanging them publicly shows the whole world you both believe they mean something.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: RCMerchant on March 07, 2010, 09:34:17 AM
I married my best friend 25 years ago, and she is snoozing in the next room as I type this.  She is still my best friend.

Sorry, dude, but MARRIAGE ROCKS!
All good.  To each their own.  I just always looked at it like this: you both love each other.  That's fine.  Live together, be exclusive.  But why go the extra step, buy a ring that's way above price, spend $10,000 to have dozens of people 'look at you' and make a spectacle of yourself, for any reason than a selfish desire to say "We're spiritually connected."  I know plenty of people who've gone through the whole 'marriage' thing cause they were "soulmates" only to divorce five years later.  I know plenty of other people who never bother to marry, get engaged, nothing, but they live together and have been in a steady, exclusive relationship for 20 years. :wink:

As far as "Why?" goes . . .
I am a Christian and marriage is the ordinance that God created and commanded for us.  I don't expect the world to share my belief system, but I am going to try to the best of my ability to honor it.    It doesn't have to be all expensive and fancy, but those vows do mean something, and exchanging them publicly shows the whole world you both believe they mean something.

Marriage is GOOD...to the right person. My first one was hell on wheels. My second  (to Tara Sue) was heaven. I loved her. I still do.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 07, 2010, 12:52:15 PM
I don't know if I've brought this up yet but I hate walking around without shoes, anywhere.  Unless I'm in the water or in bed for the night, I always have a pair of shoes on.  I just don't feel myself without them.  Also, if I could wear a new pair of socks every day I so would.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on March 07, 2010, 03:52:41 PM
Also, i dont understand why ANYONE would ever want to get married. No one should ever have to be chained down by another human being. I know a lot of families that have gone thru a lot of hardships because of marraige problems.

So, I guess you don't believe in any long-term relationships, right?  Any serious relationship ties you down, the only difference is whether they're social and emotional, or also have legal implications.

I don't believe in ANY kind of relationships, long term OR short term. I dont even want a one night stand. Now, these thing are fine for people who can HANDLE it, (besides getting married) but it's just not for me. I had a girlfriend last May, and it blew up in my face. Big time. I had a feeling it would before I got into it, but I went ahead and did it anyway, thinking with my dick instead of my brain. Since then, I've vowed to stay away from chicks for good, (unless we're just friends, which I have a few of) and always obey the golden rule: Hommies before hoes.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on March 07, 2010, 03:58:26 PM
I've finally realised I don't like going out, having fun or making friends.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 07, 2010, 07:24:34 PM
I've finally realised I don't like going out, having fun or making friends.
Me too, but only the last year or so.  I had a very busy social life, but I'm bored or annoyed by too many people these days. 
I listen to a lot of music most people I know don't want to hear. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 07, 2010, 07:49:21 PM
I've finally realised I don't like going out, having fun or making friends.
Me too, but only the last year or so.  I had a very busy social life, but I'm bored or annoyed by too many people these days. 
I listen to a lot of music most people I know don't want to hear. 
I have all the friendship I need on this board and with my closest family/non-internet friends on Facebook.  I personally am no social butterfly outisde the internet.  I get up, go to work, leave 8 hours later and keep to myself or my family all other hours of the day.  Along those lines  I absolutely hate talking on the phone.  I find "getting together" with a bunch of people  kind of ackward.  If I go anywhere its usually me alone or with my family.  Either that or with one single good friend.  Hell,  I should be the one posting yeti pictures in another thread.   :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 07, 2010, 09:05:32 PM
I married my best friend 25 years ago, and she is snoozing in the next room as I type this.  She is still my best friend.

Sorry, dude, but MARRIAGE ROCKS!
All good.  To each their own.  I just always looked at it like this: you both love each other.  That's fine.  Live together, be exclusive.  But why go the extra step, buy a ring that's way above price, spend $10,000 to have dozens of people 'look at you' and make a spectacle of yourself, for any reason than a selfish desire to say "We're spiritually connected."  I know plenty of people who've gone through the whole 'marriage' thing cause they were "soulmates" only to divorce five years later.  I know plenty of other people who never bother to marry, get engaged, nothing, but they live together and have been in a steady, exclusive relationship for 20 years. :wink:

As far as "Why?" goes . . .
I am a Christian and marriage is the ordinance that God created and commanded for us.  I don't expect the world to share my belief system, but I am going to try to the best of my ability to honor it.    It doesn't have to be all expensive and fancy, but those vows do mean something, and exchanging them publicly shows the whole world you both believe they mean something.
I respect that, and your views and all.  I grew up Catholic, and well, honestly, I've lost almost all faith in the church itself.  Mind you, I still hold my belief in God, but the church itself has turned me off to adhering to anything it says I "HAVE" to do.

But, there's a bit of a rebellious streak in me too.  I'm not saying people are wrong for marrying, and if it works in your favor, it's all good.  I just know plenty of people who're happier without the ring than with it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 07, 2010, 09:14:52 PM
I've finally realised I don't like going out, having fun or making friends.
Me too, but only the last year or so.  I had a very busy social life, but I'm bored or annoyed by too many people these days. 
I listen to a lot of music most people I know don't want to hear. 
This is where my sick personality comes out.  Generally, I loathe people, but, come Friday night/Saturday night, I'm heading out to a different setting (bar/club/bowling, etc.).  But, that's worked to my advantage to a degree.  I used to just go out with a buddy of mine I've known since 2nd grade.  Through his then girlfriend, he introduced me to a bunch of her 'girlfriends', girls she's known since 2nd grade.  Long story short, I hang out with those girls almost every weekend now, and we don't even see their friend or my friend. :teddyr:

Their friend ditched them when she got a new boyfriend, and my friend decided he doesn't like going out anymore. :lookingup:  But, one of those girls, well, apparently she has the same appreciation for low budget no name horror flicks like those old Lugosi films that I have on dvd.  We talk quite frequently.

But yeah, beyond that, I hate people.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on March 07, 2010, 11:47:02 PM
I am just a gregarious soul, I guess.  I mean, I enjoy long rambles on the river by myself from time to time, but generally, I like being around people and yakking it up . . . whether online or in realtime.

But this place is special . . . where else could a fanatical Lugosi fan, and English goth clown, and a Gene Wilder wannabe all become so close to each other?

Not to mention our webmaster, patron saint and resident Marine!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on March 08, 2010, 01:08:09 AM
I don't like peppers in my breakfast.  Red peppers do not belong in eggs.   :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 08, 2010, 08:59:35 AM
If it ain't cold, green, leafy and crunchy, it ain't a salad. I don't want any slimy noodles, cold potatoes, hot chicken, eggs, jello, nuts, raisins or fruit, nor do I want big, chunky vegetables like broccoli. Give me lettuce, shredded carrots, maybe cucumbers, peppers, bacon bits and grated cheese, with a real salad dressing, like ranch or thousand Island or Italian vinaigrette, and not some berry balsamic abomination.

Where I am particularly against the grain - Potato salad is gross, macaroni salad is gross, egg salad is gross, and throwing wet noodles into a perfectly good garden salad is a crime.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on March 08, 2010, 09:02:15 AM
But this place is special . . . where else could a fanatical Lugosi fan, and English goth clown, and a Gene Wilder wannabe all become so close to each other?

Not to mention our webmaster, patron saint and resident Marine!

....and the South African with an underpants fetish.  :buggedout: :buggedout: :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on March 08, 2010, 02:31:23 PM
But this place is special . . . where else could a fanatical Lugosi fan, and English goth clown, and a Gene Wilder wannabe all become so close to each other?

I'M NOT A GOTH!  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 08, 2010, 03:58:03 PM
I am just a gregarious soul, I guess.  I mean, I enjoy long rambles on the river by myself from time to time, but generally, I like being around people and yakking it up . . . whether online or in realtime.
But this place is special . . . where else could a fanatical Lugosi fan, and English goth clown, and a Gene Wilder wannabe all become so close to each other?
Not to mention our webmaster, patron saint and resident Marine!
Nor am I a "wannabe".  You may be "against the grain" but you are certainly on my nerves.  Don't gib me no ammunition, bonehead.   :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 08, 2010, 04:49:24 PM
I always knew that AHD was Gene Wilder. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on March 08, 2010, 06:19:33 PM
I don't care for The Office. Never liked Dilbert either.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 08, 2010, 07:56:10 PM
But this place is special . . . where else could a fanatical Lugosi fan, and English goth clown, and a Gene Wilder wannabe all become so close to each other?

I'M NOT A GOTH!  :buggedout:

I wondered what kind of reaction that was going to get. Never call a headbanger a goth.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 08, 2010, 07:58:26 PM
I hate cheesecake...the texture, the taste, the smell...everything about it.  Give me a good old fashioned birthday cake with buttercream icing or a huge helping of Jello and I'm sound as a pound.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on March 08, 2010, 07:59:34 PM
Gee . . . . try to be nice to my forum brothers, and see what it gets me!!!!!!   :teddyr:

Sorry if I mislabelled anyone!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on March 08, 2010, 10:15:00 PM
Indianasmith - Christian schoolteacher wannabe Indiana Jones who likes digging up bones?  :wink:



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 08, 2010, 10:20:43 PM
I like pro wrestling.  I think at it's best, it's some of the best writing on tv.  At it's worst, it's pretty bad (which, as a member of a BAD movies forum, makes it even more fun.)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 09, 2010, 01:09:38 AM
Gee . . . . try to be nice to my forum brothers, and see what it gets me!!!!!!   :teddyr:
Sorry if I mislabelled anyone!
We can forgive yer mislabeling, but not yer misspelling.   :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 09, 2010, 12:14:56 PM
I like pro wrestling.  I think at it's best, it's some of the best writing on tv.  At it's worst, it's pretty bad (which, as a member of a BAD movies forum, makes it even more fun.)
I used to like Wrestling too, a lot.  I kind of lost touch with it when it became more about speaking than wrestling.  However, it was always entertaining and from I watch here and there it still is. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on March 09, 2010, 01:50:32 PM
I thought tubgirl was hot. Yeah, that's right....


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on March 09, 2010, 02:09:53 PM
When I graduate, I am going to sorely miss my high school.  :bluesad:

I consider my high school experience to be very lucky.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 09, 2010, 06:46:03 PM
I thought tubgirl was hot. Yeah, that's right....

Yet another internet classic I'm curious about but afraid to actually view, just like Two Girls One Cup and Goatse.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on March 09, 2010, 07:43:14 PM
I thought tubgirl was hot. Yeah, that's right....

Yet another internet classic I'm curious about but afraid to actually view, just like Two Girls One Cup and Goatse.
.

I made the mistake of googling it.  Stay far far away. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on March 09, 2010, 08:24:46 PM
I thought tubgirl was hot. Yeah, that's right....

Yet another internet classic I'm curious about but afraid to actually view, just like Two Girls One Cup and Goatse.
.

I made the mistake of googling it.  Stay far far away. 
Too Late, but that's SICK! :thumbdown:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Paquita on March 09, 2010, 09:28:31 PM
I thought tubgirl was hot. Yeah, that's right....

Yet another internet classic I'm curious about but afraid to actually view, just like Two Girls One Cup and Goatse.
.

I made the mistake of googling it.  Stay far far away. 

So I guess that's not the picture of the blonde girl in the tub with boobs bigger than beach balls then, huh?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 09, 2010, 09:30:51 PM
Along the lines of current discussion...hardly anything shocks me...tub girl, 2 girl/1 cup, videos of baby seals getting clubbed, etc.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 09, 2010, 10:15:01 PM
I hate it when people scream manically on theme park rides.  It simply annoys the crap out of me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 09, 2010, 10:21:07 PM
I like pro wrestling.  I think at it's best, it's some of the best writing on tv.  At it's worst, it's pretty bad (which, as a member of a BAD movies forum, makes it even more fun.)
I used to like Wrestling too, a lot.  I kind of lost touch with it when it became more about speaking than wrestling.  However, it was always entertaining and from I watch here and there it still is. 
Dunno if you've ever seen them, but try to find clips online of stuff from Ring of Honor(ROH) and DragonGate USA.  Both are groups with great inring action and very little 'speaking'. 

I don't mind the promos so much in wrestling, but not long 20 minute 'skits'.  Guys like The Rock, Mick Foley and Stone Cold Steve Austin had good 'promos', but lately there's been like, mini-movies.  Get to the in ring stuff.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Cthulhu on March 10, 2010, 12:40:56 PM
I thought tubgirl was hot. Yeah, that's right....

Yet another internet classic I'm curious about but afraid to actually view, just like Two Girls One Cup and Goatse.
.

I made the mistake of googling it.  Stay far far away.  

So I guess that's not the picture of the blonde girl in the tub with boobs bigger than beach balls then, huh?
No...just to clear things up, I'll tell you what tubgirl is.
It's a girl, taking a dump on her face.
In a tub.


And it cannot be unseen.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Skull on March 10, 2010, 03:22:35 PM
When I graduate, I am going to sorely miss my high school.  :bluesad:

I consider my high school experience to be very lucky.  :smile:

lol in 10 years you'll be having nightmares about going back to school and missing a class for a long, long time and then remembering that you need to go or fail.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: KYGOTC on March 10, 2010, 03:27:17 PM
I really don't think Maralyn Monroe is all that atractive. Like, whats the gag? I dont get it. She kinda reminds me of one of those moms who's never married but has like 5 kids and is always walkin around in sweatpants and wears too much makeup and always has curlers in her hair. Ya know what im talkin' about?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Skull on March 10, 2010, 03:28:36 PM
I thought tubgirl was hot. Yeah, that's right....

Yet another internet classic I'm curious about but afraid to actually view, just like Two Girls One Cup and Goatse.
.

I made the mistake of googling it.  Stay far far away. 

So I guess that's not the picture of the blonde girl in the tub with boobs bigger than beach balls then, huh?
No...just to clear things up, I'll tell you what tubgirl is.
It's a girl, taking a dump in her face.
In a tub.


And it cannot be unseen.

We have not gone a long way from Pink Flamingos (1972)...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Skull on March 10, 2010, 03:32:58 PM
I really don't think Maralyn Monroe is all that atractive. Like, whats the gag? I dont get it. She kinda reminds me of one of those moms who's never married but has like 5 kids and is always walkin around in sweatpants and wears too much makeup and always has curlers in her hair. Ya know what im talkin' about?

I think the attraction is her openness with sex during a time when woman kept sex a secret. The same is true with Mae West. (Especially Mae West)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on March 10, 2010, 07:58:23 PM
I really don't think Maralyn Monroe is all that atractive. Like, whats the gag? I dont get it. She kinda reminds me of one of those moms who's never married but has like 5 kids and is always walkin around in sweatpants and wears too much makeup and always has curlers in her hair. Ya know what im talkin' about?

I think the attraction is her openness with sex during a time when woman kept sex a secret. The same is true with Mae West. (Especially Mae West)

Also, the feminine ideal of the time was different from what we see today. I think a good deal of her present-day appeal is exactly what KYGOTC doesn't like - she's a sex symbol who looks like a real woman.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on March 11, 2010, 02:13:20 AM
I like pro wrestling.  I think at it's best, it's some of the best writing on tv.  At it's worst, it's pretty bad (which, as a member of a BAD movies forum, makes it even more fun.)

I used to like Wrestling too, a lot.  I kind of lost touch with it when it became more about speaking than wrestling.  However, it was always entertaining and from I watch here and there it still is. 

Dunno if you've ever seen them, but try to find clips online of stuff from Ring of Honor(ROH) and DragonGate USA.  Both are groups with great inring action and very little 'speaking'. 

I don't mind the promos so much in wrestling, but not long 20 minute 'skits'.  Guys like The Rock, Mick Foley and Stone Cold Steve Austin had good 'promos', but lately there's been like, mini-movies.  Get to the in ring stuff.


I've found myself growing quite fond of the smaller companies over WWE and TNA, especially some of the Japanese ones (Dragon Gate in Japan, Osaka Pro Wrestling, New Japan, All Japan, DDT).  I've also grown somewhat fond of the Kaiju Big Battel.   :teddyr: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNhZGK9HS_o


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on March 11, 2010, 08:03:25 AM
I don't understand the appeal of those Kill Bill movies.  I watch ten minutes, yawn, and change the channel.

I also think Shaun of the Dead is one of the most spectacularly unfunny pieces of crap I've ever seen.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Skull on March 11, 2010, 11:25:40 AM
I don't understand the appeal of those Kill Bill movies.  I watch ten minutes, yawn, and change the channel.


The appeal is the coolness of watching a movie that is dated without being dated, so the viewers would think they are enjoying a "Drive In" "B-Movie" "Grindhouse" flick without actually sitting thru an actual movie of that type. It's also assumed that Tarantino filtered all the good parts and left the boring parts out.

I do agree that Kill Bill was hard to watch [because I'm still thinking this is a moden movie and people are not like this today] although I did enjoy the "coolness" but I dont think Kill Bill will be as timeless as "Rolling Thunder (1977)" or "Thriller (1974)" because Kill Bill is lacking the "Time Capsule" that makes all those old movies so fun to watch.


Quote
I also think Shaun of the Dead is one of the most spectacularly unfunny pieces of crap I've ever seen.

I'd guess it depends on taste... I like Shaun of the Dead because it tries to make fun of zombie movies (in general) without trying to outsmarting itself (like Scream) therefore the movie is fun and they ended up doing the same stupid things like in a tradition zombie film. Also the British humor works for me...



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on March 11, 2010, 11:42:07 AM
After the last couple of posts about Kill Bill, I'll say that I think Quentin Tarantino is, in general, a horrible writer, and I have yet to find any of his movies watchable. I've sat through 3 or four of them, and wish desperately I could recover those wasted hours. If you happen to like his movies, fine; I just find his work poorly written and way overhyped.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 11, 2010, 12:14:33 PM
Tarantino is an ultimate fanboy making movies and I feel is overrated.  His movies have good moments but it doesn't account for the countless minutes of dreck you have to put up with to get to those moments. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on March 11, 2010, 03:03:57 PM
I don't understand the appeal of those Kill Bill movies.  I watch ten minutes, yawn, and change the channel.

I also think Shaun of the Dead is one of the most spectacularly unfunny pieces of crap I've ever seen.

I wholeheartedly agree on both counts.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 11, 2010, 10:01:10 PM
After the last couple of posts about Kill Bill, I'll say that I think Quentin Tarantino is, in general, a horrible writer, and I have yet to find any of his movies watchable. I've sat through 3 or four of them, and wish desperately I could recover those wasted hours. If you happen to like his movies, fine; I just find his work poorly written and way overhyped.
Overall, I agree.  Although, as overrated as he may be, I have a softspot in my heart for Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction.  Everything after is a downhill fall.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on March 11, 2010, 10:03:59 PM
I like pro wrestling.  I think at it's best, it's some of the best writing on tv.  At it's worst, it's pretty bad (which, as a member of a BAD movies forum, makes it even more fun.)

I used to like Wrestling too, a lot.  I kind of lost touch with it when it became more about speaking than wrestling.  However, it was always entertaining and from I watch here and there it still is. 

Dunno if you've ever seen them, but try to find clips online of stuff from Ring of Honor(ROH) and DragonGate USA.  Both are groups with great inring action and very little 'speaking'. 

I don't mind the promos so much in wrestling, but not long 20 minute 'skits'.  Guys like The Rock, Mick Foley and Stone Cold Steve Austin had good 'promos', but lately there's been like, mini-movies.  Get to the in ring stuff.


I've found myself growing quite fond of the smaller companies over WWE and TNA, especially some of the Japanese ones (Dragon Gate in Japan, Osaka Pro Wrestling, New Japan, All Japan, DDT).  I've also grown somewhat fond of the Kaiju Big Battel.   :teddyr: 

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNhZGK9HS_o[/url]

Dragon Gate has great action.  The US sister promotion to them has some wonderful matches as well, with semi-annual pay per views for only around $20.  I like certain Japanese wrestlers, but don't follow the promotions on a consistent basis.  Most of the time I look up matches on YouTube of the ones I like from the different groups.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on March 12, 2010, 02:42:56 AM
I'm sure someone's mentioned this already, but I really don't give a flying f**k about American Idol, or any [insert nationality] Idol. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Skull on March 12, 2010, 07:06:25 AM
I'm sure someone's mentioned this already, but I really don't give a flying f**k about American Idol, or any [insert nationality] Idol. 

Agree!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on April 03, 2010, 08:26:17 AM
This might have been more against the grain back when I was in elementary school but:


I always have and always will think The Powerpuff Girls (1998) was a great cartoon!


(http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2424/powerpuffgirls.jpg) (http://img144.imageshack.us/i/powerpuffgirls.jpg/)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on April 03, 2010, 12:24:30 PM
This might have been more against the grain back when I was in elementary school but:


I always have and always will think The Powerpuff Girls (1998) was a great cartoon!


([url]http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2424/powerpuffgirls.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img144.imageshack.us/i/powerpuffgirls.jpg/[/url])


AGREED!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Vik on April 06, 2010, 04:45:45 PM
I thought the Godfather Part II was the least good of the series. I still really liked it but I think part I and III are better. Most people think Part II is the best part


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ER on April 10, 2010, 03:07:15 PM
Adult Swim is the Scrappy Doo of the Cartoon Network.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on April 10, 2010, 03:17:51 PM
Adult Swim is the Scrappy Doo of the Cartoon Network.

BLASPHEMY! Except for the shameless Family Guy re-runs, oh yeah, new Family Guy sucks, but I already said that.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on April 11, 2010, 08:07:49 AM
Adult Swim is the Scrappy Doo of the Cartoon Network.

BLASPHEMY! Except for the shameless Family Guy re-runs, oh yeah, new Family Guy sucks, but I already said that.

Basically everything sucks that is popular or becomes hyped up too much. It's great when it's new, but then everybody turns on it and looks for the next best thing until they decide that it sucks also. E.g. popular cartoons to stay current pushed the bar and became more risque. Those cartoons in turn, were dumped by the masses in favour of more offensive material and quicker and faster animation. Also at the tail end of the 1980s, melodic/glam metal had become so huge and was being rammed down eveyone's throat so much that something had to give - Grunge was the "alternative", until that itself went mainstream, became too popular and it got dropped like s**t on a spade.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on April 11, 2010, 08:52:43 AM
Adult Swim is the Scrappy Doo of the Cartoon Network.

BLASPHEMY! Except for the shameless Family Guy re-runs, oh yeah, new Family Guy sucks, but I already said that.

Basically everything sucks that is popular or becomes hyped up too much. It's great when it's new, but then everybody turns on it and looks for the next best thing until they decide that it sucks also. E.g. popular cartoons to stay current pushed the bar and became more risque. Those cartoons in turn, were dumped by the masses in favour of more offensive material and quicker and faster animation. Also at the tail end of the 1980s, melodic/glam metal had become so huge and was being rammed down eveyone's throat so much that something had to give - Grunge was the "alternative", until that itself went mainstream, became too popular and it got dropped like s**t on a spade.
Hence the definition of pop culture.  But I'll add in a subtext, stuff always comes back to popularity. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on April 11, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
Adult Swim is the Scrappy Doo of the Cartoon Network.

BLASPHEMY! Except for the shameless Family Guy re-runs, oh yeah, new Family Guy sucks, but I already said that.

Basically everything sucks that is popular or becomes hyped up too much. It's great when it's new, but then everybody turns on it and looks for the next best thing until they decide that it sucks also. E.g. popular cartoons to stay current pushed the bar and became more risque. Those cartoons in turn, were dumped by the masses in favour of more offensive material and quicker and faster animation. Also at the tail end of the 1980s, melodic/glam metal had become so huge and was being rammed down eveyone's throat so much that something had to give - Grunge was the "alternative", until that itself went mainstream, became too popular and it got dropped like s**t on a spade.
Hence the definition of pop culture.  But I'll add in a subtext, stuff always comes back to popularity. 

True enough. 

I had noticed this about a lot of other people.  My friends in high school were all about South Park when it came out, then ditched it once the less popular kids started liking it.  They did the same with many other things.  Remember when RPG's were really, really big in the PlayStation era?  Had quite a good number of friends who played FF7 or 8, but never touched another RPG afterward (or even before). 

I'll admit: I still watch Family Guy.  Hell, I still watch South Park.  I know, though, that the former is very much past it's prime, and even Seth McFarlane is becoming less and less funny.  Ever watch Cavalcade of Cartoon Comedy?  It was SM's DVD full of pop culture parodies like the ones you would see in Family Guy.  He posted quite a few of these on YouTube, and I would have to say maybe 1 in every 3 videos was actually funny.  The rest didn't even gain a smile out of me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 11, 2010, 05:04:05 PM
Adult Swim is the Scrappy Doo of the Cartoon Network.

BLASPHEMY! Except for the shameless Family Guy re-runs, oh yeah, new Family Guy sucks, but I already said that.

Basically everything sucks that is popular or becomes hyped up too much. It's great when it's new, but then everybody turns on it and looks for the next best thing until they decide that it sucks also. E.g. popular cartoons to stay current pushed the bar and became more risque. Those cartoons in turn, were dumped by the masses in favour of more offensive material and quicker and faster animation. Also at the tail end of the 1980s, melodic/glam metal had become so huge and was being rammed down eveyone's throat so much that something had to give - Grunge was the "alternative", until that itself went mainstream, became too popular and it got dropped like s**t on a spade.
Hence the definition of pop culture.  But I'll add in a subtext, stuff always comes back to popularity. 

True enough. 

I had noticed this about a lot of other people.  My friends in high school were all about South Park when it came out, then ditched it once the less popular kids started liking it.  They did the same with many other things.  Remember when RPG's were really, really big in the PlayStation era?  Had quite a good number of friends who played FF7 or 8, but never touched another RPG afterward (or even before). 

I'll admit: I still watch Family Guy.  Hell, I still watch South Park.  I know, though, that the former is very much past it's prime, and even Seth McFarlane is becoming less and less funny.  Ever watch Cavalcade of Cartoon Comedy?  It was SM's DVD full of pop culture parodies like the ones you would see in Family Guy.  He posted quite a few of these on YouTube, and I would have to say maybe 1 in every 3 videos was actually funny.  The rest didn't even gain a smile out of me.
I've given up on Family Guy.  I'll watch reruns occasionally, but only of a select few episodes I really liked.

South Park, I feel, still CONSISTENTLY puts out great television.  I think part of the reason for that is they break the season apart.  Do 8 episodes in April and May, take the summer off, and do new episodes in November/December.  Plus, their computers are the ones Lucas uses for Star Wars, so they can animate an episode in one week, so they can do loads of spoofs of current news events.  Case in point: The Terri Schiavo case, Elian Gonzales, the Michael Richards "Racist' rant, etc, all worked into episodes as they happened. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on April 11, 2010, 05:58:10 PM
Out of all the so-called offensive cartoons, that have become more the norm nowadays, the one I still like best is The Simpsons. Granted, the last ten seasons of the show pale next to the first ten but still it's far more likely to have me laughing than Family Guy which I rarely find funny at all it seems so obsessed with shocks and perversity (although honestly it has on rare occassions made me chuckle here and there). I never liked South Park. Can't stand listening to a bunch of swearing kids in reality so why would I want to watch a show like that? Sometimes I have to admit to having enjoyed Robot Chicken in terms of parody but again it's all about the shocks. This has become so much the norm now I find I crave and prefer toons that keep it much cleaner and actually focus on having a plot I can follow.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 11, 2010, 09:42:27 PM
Out of all the so-called offensive cartoons, that have become more the norm nowadays, the one I still like best is The Simpsons. Granted, the last ten seasons of the show pale next to the first ten but still it's far more likely to have me laughing than Family Guy which I rarely find funny at all it seems so obsessed with shocks and perversity (although honestly it has on rare occassions made me chuckle here and there). I never liked South Park. Can't stand listening to a bunch of swearing kids in reality so why would I want to watch a show like that? Sometimes I have to admit to having enjoyed Robot Chicken in terms of parody but again it's all about the shocks. This has become so much the norm now I find I crave and prefer toons that keep it much cleaner and actually focus on having a plot I can follow.
The Simpsons is classic.  Never gets old.

I dunno how old you are, but I know growing up in elementary school (not too long ago for me), we said much worse stuff on the playground than what the kids on South Park were saying.  Doing far worse things too.  Hell, in 5th grade, girls were bringing speed and coke into school.  We were 11.  So for me it works as a parody of how kids truly are (a lot of parents wanna believe their kids are angels.  Kids are bastards), as well as a parody of current events going on in the news.  But I appreciate your views on it's 'shock' humor, and I'm not saying your wrong, just stating my opinion based on experiences I had as a kid.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on April 12, 2010, 02:45:38 AM
I'm starting to believe the overall impact of the internet on the world is a negative rather than a positive now.  Likewise, cell phones.

And no, I'm not giving up either one.   :twirl:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on April 12, 2010, 06:42:16 AM
I think Barack Obama is on his way to becoming the worst President of all time.  He's sure giving Jimmy Carter a run for his money!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on April 12, 2010, 07:21:08 AM
I think Barack Obama is on his way to becoming the worst President of all time.  He's sure giving Jimmy Carter a run for his money!
I'm guessing you had never been a victim of Hurricane Katrina and Rita, when Bush promised us money for rebuilding New Orleans, but the mula never came! :hatred: :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on April 12, 2010, 03:33:07 PM
I thought of another philosophical belief of me that's against the grain...  I don't like fertility treatments for people, especially in-vitro.  That probably goes along a bit with my misanthropic streak, but there's more to it than that.  Not saying people who use such things are bad, just something that rubs me the wrong way a little.

I think Barack Obama is on his way to becoming the worst President of all time.  He's sure giving Jimmy Carter a run for his money!

Bah.  I've noticed you read a good deal of US history - what about Warren G. Harding or James Buchanan?   :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Vik on April 12, 2010, 05:51:16 PM
I quite liked Cabin Fever.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on April 12, 2010, 07:04:54 PM
Happy, I was only one to spout profanity as an infant, and it wasn't my fault as someone else taught me the words. As an adult and even as a kid and teenager, I never like hearing or saying profanity and the main rare occasion I'd use it would be when I banged myself up in some fashion or another. I'm a firm believer in no tolerance for profanity or disrespect of one's elders. It's how I was brought up. I just always knew it was the correct way to behave.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on April 12, 2010, 09:01:06 PM
I thought of another philosophical belief of me that's against the grain...  I don't like fertility treatments for people, especially in-vitro.  That probably goes along a bit with my misanthropic streak, but there's more to it than that.  Not saying people who use such things are bad, just something that rubs me the wrong way a little.

I think Barack Obama is on his way to becoming the worst President of all time.  He's sure giving Jimmy Carter a run for his money!

Bah.  I've noticed you read a good deal of US history - what about Warren G. Harding or James Buchanan?   :teddyr:

OK, maybe I was indluging in a bit of hyperbole there - I guess I should have said the "Worst President of my lifetime."  Buchanan, Pierce, and Andrew Johnson will probably have bottom place to themselves for a long time to come, with Harding, Coolidge, and Ben Harrison directly above.  But I firmly think, in terms of foreign policy, Obama is going to be in the bottom 10 of all time!!!!!

And Bull - Louisiana got TONS of Federal Money after Katrina - much more than Galveston got for Rita.  Check the pockets of your mayor, state senators, and the Long family.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 12, 2010, 09:55:22 PM
Happy, I was only one to spout profanity as an infant, and it wasn't my fault as someone else taught me the words. As an adult and even as a kid and teenager, I never like hearing or saying profanity and the main rare occasion I'd use it would be when I banged myself up in some fashion or another. I'm a firm believer in no tolerance for profanity or disrespect of one's elders. It's how I was brought up. I just always knew it was the correct way to behave.
I'm very polite to my elders, mind you.  As far as profanity, I was never one personally to use it when I was in school, although the kids I hung with did use it very frequently.

Also, while I do have some respect for my elders...teachers were something different.  The b***h of a lady they called a "Teacher" that I had for 6 years was less a teacher and more a, um, well hag and that's the politest thing I can say about her...I tried to be nice but she made it quite difficult.  School in general broke me down to the point that I have absolutely no trust in ANYBODY in any capacity except in myself.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on April 12, 2010, 11:07:46 PM
Adult Swim is the Scrappy Doo of the Cartoon Network.

BLASPHEMY! Except for the shameless Family Guy re-runs, oh yeah, new Family Guy sucks, but I already said that.

Basically everything sucks that is popular or becomes hyped up too much. It's great when it's new, but then everybody turns on it and looks for the next best thing until they decide that it sucks also. E.g. popular cartoons to stay current pushed the bar and became more risque. Those cartoons in turn, were dumped by the masses in favour of more offensive material and quicker and faster animation. Also at the tail end of the 1980s, melodic/glam metal had become so huge and was being rammed down eveyone's throat so much that something had to give - Grunge was the "alternative", until that itself went mainstream, became too popular and it got dropped like s**t on a spade.

Though I do agree with what you said (mostly anyhow, I love being out with the times, but then again, that's considered cool sometimes...f**k!!!). I only start to hate something I enjoy when the creators stop trying and/or throw their creativity out the window. Family Guy has become a sad parody of itself with constant 80's movie references and trying to p**s everyone off. They used to do this with a sense of charm, but now try to be callous and nihilistic about it, as if saying they're too cool for cool. That is why in the long run, Seth McFarlane failed to even touch the Simpsons or even South Park.

His only good show is American Dad.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 15, 2010, 07:09:39 PM
Kind of against the grain, but: I LIKED Gilligan's Island.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on April 15, 2010, 10:23:55 PM
Kind of against the grain, but: I LIKED Gilligan's Island.

How's that against the grain? I LOVE Gilligan's Island. I own the series on DVD. Now if you said you liked the follow-up movies like Rescue from Gilligan's Island, I might wonder about your sanity...  :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on April 16, 2010, 06:58:52 AM
The grain of my undies is / are showing........  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on April 16, 2010, 07:07:19 AM
The grain of my undies is / are showing........  :buggedout:

You growing wheat in there now? :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on April 16, 2010, 07:09:06 AM
You growing wheat in there now? :buggedout:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

Well, with the amount of manure in them undies, yessir, I am.  :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on April 16, 2010, 07:25:07 AM
I think Pulp Fiction SUCKS!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: claws on April 16, 2010, 08:12:22 AM
I think Pulp Fiction SUCKS!
That seems to be the norm here  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on April 16, 2010, 11:51:45 AM
Star Wars (the whole thing): I know this is hugely unpopular. But honestly, I love the original three back when I was a kid, I mean, I was a kid for cripes sake. But honestly, between Episodes 1 through 3, and the alterations of the originals, I don't get why this franchise is cannonized to the point that it is. Okay, start throwing your stones.

Agreed for the most part with the original poster, except for The Onion. I love the Onion. Is everything they do awesome. Of course not, but look at how much they churn out. There is some absolute genius mixed in there.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Vik on April 16, 2010, 11:59:16 AM
I think Star wars in general is overrated.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 16, 2010, 06:32:22 PM
Kind of against the grain, but: I LIKED Gilligan's Island.

How's that against the grain? I LOVE Gilligan's Island. I own the series on DVD. Now if you said you liked the follow-up movies like Rescue from Gilligan's Island, I might wonder about your sanity...  :tongueout:
I liked the movies too.  I liked the overlying Franchise...even The Harlem Globetrotters on Gilligan's Island.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on April 18, 2010, 07:53:38 AM
Kind of against the grain, but: I LIKED Gilligan's Island.

How's that against the grain? I LOVE Gilligan's Island. I own the series on DVD. Now if you said you liked the follow-up movies like Rescue from Gilligan's Island, I might wonder about your sanity...  :tongueout:
I liked the movies too.  I liked the overlying Franchise...even The Harlem Globetrotters on Gilligan's Island.

Okay, I'll start wondering about your sanity then.  :twirl: Nah, to me, the movies didn't have the same chemistry as the show, and not just because Ginger kept changing (I've always been a Mary Ann guy myself, but still...). As Bob Denver aged, he just lost a lot of the goofy charm he had as a kid, and it was obvious that Jim Backus was having health problems (gotta admire him for his effort, though).


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 18, 2010, 08:55:23 AM
Kind of against the grain, but: I LIKED Gilligan's Island.

How's that against the grain? I LOVE Gilligan's Island. I own the series on DVD. Now if you said you liked the follow-up movies like Rescue from Gilligan's Island, I might wonder about your sanity...  :tongueout:
I liked the movies too.  I liked the overlying Franchise...even The Harlem Globetrotters on Gilligan's Island.

Okay, I'll start wondering about your sanity then.  :twirl: Nah, to me, the movies didn't have the same chemistry as the show, and not just because Ginger kept changing (I've always been a Mary Ann guy myself, but still...). As Bob Denver aged, he just lost a lot of the goofy charm he had as a kid, and it was obvious that Jim Backus was having health problems (gotta admire him for his effort, though).
Shame about Backus though.  What was funny though, was Natalie Scaeffer was in her like, '90s and doing the tv-movies.  Nobody knew her real age apparently.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on April 18, 2010, 08:58:37 AM
I hate Dr. Who. Post Paul McGann it has sucked quite hard...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on April 18, 2010, 09:39:34 AM
Ok, this one will net me some flames probably but Halloween 3 is the only good movie out of the entire franchise.  Yep, I said it. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Psycho Circus on April 18, 2010, 09:45:18 AM
Ok, this one will net me some flames probably but Halloween 3 is the only good movie out of the entire franchise.  Yep, I said it. 

Wow. Wow. Wow.  :buggedout:

To be fair, Halloween III is a criminally underrated film as we've previously discussed on this forum. But that's one hell of bold statement to make my man. Nothing beats the original flick, even though I myself am completely crazy in believing 4 & 5 are the best.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on April 18, 2010, 10:12:02 AM
Ok, this one will net me some flames probably but Halloween 3 is the only good movie out of the entire franchise.  Yep, I said it. 

Wow. Wow. Wow.  :buggedout:

To be fair, Halloween III is a criminally underrated film as we've previously discussed on this forum. But that's one hell of bold statement to make my man. Nothing beats the original flick, even though I myself am completely crazy in believing 4 & 5 are the best.  :teddyr:
:bouncegiggle:  Some history, I think it boils down to  I NEVER liked Michael Myers.  He is kind of a nothing villain to me with no real interest. Halloween 3 broke away from him and the plot line I don't think is all that bad at base level.  Yes, it comes across as crap on film but having masks that kills people from a stonehenge curse is much better than some slow guy stalking teenagers.   Oh well, you're still my brother Circus and every one else who disagrees.   :cheers:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on April 18, 2010, 01:40:12 PM
I really like Batman Returns the best of all the live action Batman films. But I prefer it and Batman (1989) a great deal over Batman Begins and The Dark Knight which to be honest I find kind of disappointing (I even like Batman Forever and the Adam West Batman: The Movie (1966) more). The animated films to are right up there with Burton's films too.

I hated Rob Zombie's Halloween films and don't care much for his other film efforts either.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on April 19, 2010, 09:06:31 AM
I really like Batman Returns the best of all the live action Batman films. But I prefer it and Batman (1989) a great deal over Batman Begins and The Dark Knight which to be honest I find kind of disappointing (I even like Batman Forever and the Adam West Batman: The Movie (1966) more). The animated films to are right up there with Burton's films too.

I hated Rob Zombie's Halloween films and don't care much for his other film efforts either.

Agreed, I didn't find the new Batman films all that interesting, and frankly, I don't get why Christian Bale is considered such a great action hero. I find him kind of bland.

As for Rob Zombie, I agree for the most part, but Captain Spaulding is the one shining light there. He's hilarious. Of course, Sid Haig gets a lot of the credit for that.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on April 19, 2010, 12:54:22 PM
Actually I like every pre-Rob Zombie Halloween film effort more than his films...yes even the really bad ones like Halloween Resurrection and Halloween 2-6.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 19, 2010, 10:10:10 PM
I really like Batman Returns the best of all the live action Batman films. But I prefer it and Batman (1989) a great deal over Batman Begins and The Dark Knight which to be honest I find kind of disappointing (I even like Batman Forever and the Adam West Batman: The Movie (1966) more). The animated films to are right up there with Burton's films too.

I hated Rob Zombie's Halloween films and don't care much for his other film efforts either.
The only Batman film I was disappointed with was Batman and Robin.  I liked Batman/Returns/Forever.  Hell, even liked Dark Knight for what it was.  Mind you, I felt Aaron Eckhart was great as Two-Face, and while overhyped, Ledger made a fine Joker.  But, I've never really been a Bale fan or a Michael Caine fan, so the casting there was a bit iffy for me.

As for Zombie's films...I felt Sid Haig was great in House of 1,000 Corpses and Devil's Rejects, as was Bill Moseley, but with those two actors you never go wrong.  I felt, personally (although I'm a bit young so I could be off) that Zombie was reaching for a mid-'70s Grindhouse style of film with those flicks, so went over the top in terms of language and violence, much like people felt that The Exorcist and Texas Chainsaw Massacre did.  Did he succeed? Depens on whom you ask.  Me personally, I liked them, but I can definitely see where others would have a differing opinion on them, but ultimately it's a matter of opinion and it doesn't really matter anyway.  Odd that I praise Haig and Moseley and disparrage Caine, but I always liked those two actors.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on April 20, 2010, 06:08:13 PM
I Really like Batman and Robin and to me, it is better than the dark knight. Shun me, but i like dis movie more outta of the whole Batman franchise.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on April 20, 2010, 09:09:48 PM
I think Dark Knight and Batman begins are easily the two worst Batman movies they've done, and Ledger wasn't half as good at being the Joker as Jack was. 

I will give Ledger credit for being a good villain, but that villain was not in any way The Joker. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on April 20, 2010, 10:53:16 PM
I don't care for television anymore. It used to have all sorts of good things on it but now...meh. Whenever I do finally get my own apartment (instead of renting someone's basement; I've moved up slightly! I'm now living in someone else's basement rather than my parents!) I'm not even gonna bother getting cable or satellite. Not worth the investment in my opinion.

I'm also indifferent to Twilight. Haven't read it, haven't seen, haven't bothered to give enough of a care to do either.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 21, 2010, 07:44:00 AM
I think The Penguin is one of the better comic book villains in history, despite everyone telling me differently.

I think 95% of MOST tv sucks today.  I limit myself to very little programming anymore: Law and Order, South Park, and that's about it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: SPazzo on April 22, 2010, 01:00:03 PM

I hated Rob Zombie's Halloween films and don't care much for his other film efforts either.

Ah, and would that include the wonderful film The Haunted World of El Superbeasto?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Nukie 2 on April 22, 2010, 03:34:11 PM
I think Freddy Got Fingered was comedic genius!

One of my life's goals is to never have more than one credit card.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on April 23, 2010, 11:35:25 AM
Speaking mainly of in a pop music mindset, Lady Gaga isn't all that bad.  She kind of reminds me of Madonna in circa mid 80s. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Doggett on April 23, 2010, 11:42:08 AM

Mystery Science Theater 3000 - I was never really a fan even though I love to make fun of movies myself. I'm aware that they are the holy grail of mockery but I thought Elvira was funnier.



Funnier and hotter... :teddyr:

I think the second and current series of Ashes to Ashes are as good as Life on Mars.
Batman Begins is better than The Dark Knight. (Batman Returns is the best one of all, though)
Gremlins 2 is better than Gremlins 1.
Dire Straits are...good ! I don't know when it became popular to dislike them.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on April 23, 2010, 11:47:55 AM
And going along with my last post in this thread, I don't think it always takes "talent" to make "good" music. I've known of many "talented" bands who make really awful music. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on April 23, 2010, 12:38:13 PM
I also like Elvira much better (she's much more attractive too as attractive as Mike in drag can be  :wink: )  than the bunch from MST3K too although they have started to grow on me to be honest the more I do watch them (although I think lots of everyday folks could say things every bit as funny say like if a bunch of us here got together). I like Mr. Lobo's Cinema Insomnia more too. Actually I like Horror Hosts in the traditional sense a lot and I really wish there were more of them on the TV airwaves. I don't like how often the movies they do show on MST3K are edited down for content (presumably because of the rules channels like Sci-Fi and Comedy had to follow in the U.S.).  What I do like best about MST3K believe it or not is the skits.

I like the X-Men animated cartoon from the 1990s better than the later film and cartoons which followed those films.

I greatly preferred professional wrestling in the kayfabe era when they actually tried their best to pretend it was real and played it up as though it were a sport.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 23, 2010, 08:06:26 PM


I greatly preferred professional wrestling in the kayfabe era when they actually tried their best to pretend it was real and played it up as though it were a sport.
I like aspects of that era.

Although, myself personally, I became a fan in the mid '80s or so when it was the "Rock and Wrestling Connection" with Hogan, Piper, Savage, etc.  But then it got tiresome.  Didn't follow it as closely between '93-'96/'97.  What drew me back in was the fact that they played up being "Sports Entertainment" and admitted it was scripted.  The stuff ECW was doing, as far as doing more 'adult' stories, and the WWE with guys like Stone Cold Steve Austin, DX, and The Rock really brought me back as a fan. 

In the end, both have aspects that I like.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Doggett on April 24, 2010, 07:41:07 AM
I like Sharon Stone.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on April 24, 2010, 01:04:44 PM
I like Sharon Stone too in most movies more often than not although less so her last few efforts.

When it comes to today's popular remaking and revamping, I almost always still prefer the original. Even in the following cases where I sometimes think I'm a minority:

The Thing From Another World (1951) > The Thing (1982)
King Kong (1933) > any of its remakes
Island of Lost Souls > any Dr. Moreau remake
Battlestar Galactica (1970s) > 2000s BSG
Classic Doctor Who > new Doctor Who
Classic Twilight Zone > two new series
Classic Outer Limits > 90s Outer Limits
The Blob (1958) > The Blob (1988)



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Silverlady on April 24, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
I like Sharon Stone too in most movies more often than not although less so her last few efforts.

When it comes to today's popular remaking and revamping, I almost always still prefer the original. Even in the following cases where I sometimes think I'm a minority:

The Thing From Another World (1951) > The Thing (1982)
King Kong (1933) > any of its remakes
Island of Lost Souls > any Dr. Moreau remake
Battlestar Galactica (1970s) > 2000s BSG
Classic Doctor Who > new Doctor Who
Classic Twilight Zone > two new series
Classic Outer Limits > 90s Outer Limits
The Blob (1958) > The Blob (1988)



I like the originals you mentioned better also. Regarding Sharon Stone, I guess it's a "guy" thing. From a woman's perspective, I used to think Mel Gibson was "hot" back in the early days. NOw I just think he is a MORON!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on April 24, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
I like Sharon Stone too in most movies more often than not although less so her last few efforts.

When it comes to today's popular remaking and revamping, I almost always still prefer the original. Even in the following cases where I sometimes think I'm a minority:

The Thing From Another World (1951) > The Thing (1982)
King Kong (1933) > any of its remakes
Island of Lost Souls > any Dr. Moreau remake
Battlestar Galactica (1970s) > 2000s BSG
Classic Doctor Who > new Doctor Who
Classic Twilight Zone > two new series
Classic Outer Limits > 90s Outer Limits
The Blob (1958) > The Blob (1988)


Wait, most people like the new Twilight Zone and Outer Limits shows better than th eold ones?   :buggedout:

That's disturbing.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on April 28, 2010, 04:37:11 AM
I'm not real big on Earth Day.  Why designate one day to do all those nice things for the Earth?  Why not just do those all the time?  Then again, I'm about as green as a stop sign.  :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Vik on April 28, 2010, 05:51:34 AM
^Never even heard of earth day.  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on April 28, 2010, 11:32:19 AM
I'm a firm believer that if an entertainer of any sort says they're doing a "final tour" or "final appearance" then it should be just that. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on April 28, 2010, 12:50:58 PM
I get annoyed when an artist/author blames the editors or executives when their work is crap. Sure, sometimes it is the editors/executives fiddling where they shouldn't have, but those same people usually cut out bits that would definitely harm the work. It's their job, after all, and they usually make the right call. Want proof? Go through the deleted scenes in most movies. Most of those scenes didn't contribute anything of any real substance to the movie, so they were wisely cut.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jim H on April 28, 2010, 02:18:27 PM
I get annoyed when an artist/author blames the editors or executives when their work is crap. Sure, sometimes it is the editors/executives fiddling where they shouldn't have, but those same people usually cut out bits that would definitely harm the work. It's their job, after all, and they usually make the right call. Want proof? Go through the deleted scenes in most movies. Most of those scenes didn't contribute anything of any real substance to the movie, so they were wisely cut.

Well, in most cases, the director works directly with the editor and usually they're agreed on deleted scenes.  When there is executive/producer interference, it's usually more serious than just deleted scenes - think things like the entire production changes, or a re-edit of the entire film, added voiceover (Blade Runner) etc. 

However, I think in a lot of cases you're right.  Some creative people seem to just go nuts and lose it when they're not reined in by editorial control.  Case in point is Frank Miller, who's comic work is much better when it's a little constrained.  Look at the early Sin City VS the later stuff, or the first Dark Knight book VS the second.  Or better yet, look at the first Matrix film VS the sequels - from what I gather, there was far more studio interference and oversight on the first film than the two sequels.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 12, 2010, 04:24:04 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on May 12, 2010, 04:54:09 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I abso-f**king-lutely agree with you. 100 f**king percent.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on May 12, 2010, 04:58:31 PM
I get annoyed when an artist/author blames the editors or executives when their work is crap. Sure, sometimes it is the editors/executives fiddling where they shouldn't have, but those same people usually cut out bits that would definitely harm the work. It's their job, after all, and they usually make the right call. Want proof? Go through the deleted scenes in most movies. Most of those scenes didn't contribute anything of any real substance to the movie, so they were wisely cut.

Well, in most cases, the director works directly with the editor and usually they're agreed on deleted scenes.  When there is executive/producer interference, it's usually more serious than just deleted scenes - think things like the entire production changes, or a re-edit of the entire film, added voiceover (Blade Runner) etc. 

However, I think in a lot of cases you're right.  Some creative people seem to just go nuts and lose it when they're not reined in by editorial control.  Case in point is Frank Miller, who's comic work is much better when it's a little constrained.  Look at the early Sin City VS the later stuff, or the first Dark Knight book VS the second.  Or better yet, look at the first Matrix film VS the sequels - from what I gather, there was far more studio interference and oversight on the first film than the two sequels.

I always think of Gene Roddenberry. You always hear about how the suits interfered with Star Trek, but old Gene succeeded in spite of it. I say they saved him from himself. Original Trek, when Roddenberry had to constantly answer to people higher up and fight for his vision, was just about as good as the franchise got. When Trek became a phenomenon in the 70s, Paramount pretty much gave him carte blanche to come up with a new series that, after Star Wars, turned into a feature film. We got a movie that was too long, too slow, crammed with too many ideas, way too expensive and trying too hard to imitate films like 2001: A Space Odyssey. So Gene got demoted to figurehead, and we got The Wrath of Khan. And when he started taking an active role again, we got TNG, which was particularly preachy and sanctimonious, not to mention dull, when he was involved.

Actually, that in itself is going against the grain. Gene Roddenberry did some significant things for TV, movies and the SF genre in general, but he was basically a hack writer who needed supervision to keep him focused on what was important, and other more savvy people, such as Gene Coon or Harve Bennett, to make his vision of the future entertaining.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on May 12, 2010, 05:05:30 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Vik on May 12, 2010, 05:18:24 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   
I don't  :twirl:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on May 12, 2010, 07:35:08 PM
I don't like dogs...sorry all but I figured might as well get that out there if I haven't already.  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on May 13, 2010, 02:52:30 AM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   
I don't  :twirl:

Neither do I, for the most part, but it really depends on the situation and the person.  Some of the people I've heard in public who use "f**king" as every other word just bother me.  I see it more as a sign that someone feels more laid back or casual in their surroundings. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on May 13, 2010, 02:59:26 AM
I like Sharon Stone.

I do too, but I must tell you my story of what happened to her on the set of King Solomon's Mines here sometime.  :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on May 13, 2010, 11:38:47 AM
I personally feel Trevor's underpants aren't nearly as bad smelling as he claims they are.   :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on May 13, 2010, 01:18:41 PM
I personally feel Trevor's underpants aren't nearly as bad smelling as he claims they are.   :teddyr:

Have you been talking to my Mom, DS? :wink: :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 13, 2010, 02:30:41 PM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   
I don't  :twirl:

Neither do I, for the most part, but it really depends on the situation and the person.  Some of the people I've heard in public who use "f**king" as every other word just bother me.  I see it more as a sign that someone feels more laid back or casual in their surroundings. 

I didn't really make it clear that I was specifically thinking about writing (message board posts, blog posts, youtube and Amazon comments, and even "serious" articles) rather than everyday speech.  There is a difference between casually saying it among a group of friends and actually taking the extra time to write it out in a sentence when it adds nothing to the meaning.  I think we should write better and more grammatically then we talk in everyday conversation. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on May 16, 2010, 12:29:05 AM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.

I never thought about it, but I agree for the most part.   
I don't  :twirl:

Neither do I, for the most part, but it really depends on the situation and the person.  Some of the people I've heard in public who use "f**king" as every other word just bother me.  I see it more as a sign that someone feels more laid back or casual in their surroundings. 

I didn't really make it clear that I was specifically thinking about writing (message board posts, blog posts, youtube and Amazon comments, and even "serious" articles) rather than everyday speech.  There is a difference between casually saying it among a group of friends and actually taking the extra time to write it out in a sentence when it adds nothing to the meaning.  I think we should write better and more grammatically then we talk in everyday conversation. 

This. I personally use it only when it's appropriate (like if I'm actually angry or if there's no other way to truly convey my feelings on the subject), but some of the characters I write do use it casually. I experimented with one character who swears casually to see what they'd sound like with a clean mouth and it just came out really unnatural and awkward for them. In that particular case casual swearing worked for them, but they're the only character in that work who really does it. It really doesn't work for most characters, and it tends to sound even worse when there's a whole group of them.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on May 16, 2010, 06:21:55 AM
I've known too many people who toss in F words as filler, because they can talk faster than they can collect their thoughts. Clean their speech up and it would just slow and stammering and full of pauses. It's no different from saying "umm" or "like" every second word, only it sounds cooler in certain company.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on May 16, 2010, 06:49:13 AM
Other than dialogue appropriate to a particular character, I don't think there has ever been a sentence that's been improved by the addition of the meaningless adjective "f**king."  I think it makes the writer come across as stupid and unimaginative.
........

I didn't really make it clear that I was specifically thinking about writing (message board posts, blog posts, youtube and Amazon comments, and even "serious" articles) rather than everyday speech.  There is a difference between casually saying it among a group of friends and actually taking the extra time to write it out in a sentence when it adds nothing to the meaning.  I think we should write better and more grammatically then we talk in everyday conversation. 

 :thumbup:

Why do they make the effort to add completely extraneous words when the tendency in 'written' communication has been toward economising on keystrokes?  That is what I cannot quite fathom.  It would seem to imply that the presence of the word in question bears some strong significance to the writer.  In which case, yes indeed it does reflect on the writer more than on the meaning.   :wink:

I've known too many people who toss in F words as filler, because they can talk faster than they can collect their thoughts. Clean their speech up and it would just slow and stammering and full of pauses. It's no different from saying "umm" or "like" every second word, only it sounds cooler in certain company.

Good point.  It may 'grease' the verbal process, but in such cases surely a few thoughtful pauses might prove beneficial?   :twirl:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Saucerman on May 16, 2010, 07:14:41 AM
I don't care if a woman shaves her legs or not.  If she chooses to, that's fine, if not, no biggie. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 16, 2010, 12:00:53 PM
I've known too many people who toss in F words as filler, because they can talk faster than they can collect their thoughts. Clean their speech up and it would just slow and stammering and full of pauses. It's no different from saying "umm" or "like" every second word, only it sounds cooler in certain company.

I agree about f**king being filler.  The use of "like" was one of the analogies that came to my mind, except that people only use it in writing to deliberately make the speaker sound vapid.  No one would add in meaningless "likes" if they were speaking in their own voice. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on May 16, 2010, 05:30:53 PM
Creepshow is NOT an R-rated movie, it should be a PG-13 movie.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 19, 2010, 11:13:31 AM
Dug this thread up because I just thought of this one.  I have NEVER found The Peanuts entertaining in any form whether it be comic strip or annimated television.  I respect Mr. Schultz's lifetime work but just don't get it. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on September 19, 2010, 12:10:26 PM
Unlike apparently a good chunk of the internet, I don't care a lick about "Talk Like a Pirate Day." Anyone who actually tries to apply it to the real world will sound like a complete idiot if they try it in a setting where no one else is doing it (eg- the majority of public and work spaces). Also, the internet killed off most of the "cool" pirates had, along with ninja, robots, monkeys, and zombies.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on September 19, 2010, 09:29:00 PM
I hate the war between Graves and Danzig of the Misfits to be total BS. They're good and lets keep it at that!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 19, 2010, 09:48:10 PM
I've never been fond of any HBO original programming series.  Soprano's included.  Only show that looks promising to me is Boardwalk Empire.

I'm not a fan of Scorcese.  Seen the man in interviews, seems like a nice enough guy, but put on one of his flicks and I have zero interest.  Same with Spielberg or George Lucas. 

Dug this thread up because I just thought of this one.  I have NEVER found The Peanuts entertaining in any form whether it be comic strip or annimated television.  I respect Mr. Schultz's lifetime work but just don't get it. 
I second this.  I've never, ever in any capacity found Peanuts to be entertaining in any capacity, and the fact that so much praise gets thrown it's way boggles my mind. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 19, 2010, 09:58:37 PM
I like John Mayer.  Granted, as a musician, he's really not terrible at all and quite underrated. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on September 20, 2010, 05:59:02 AM
I have a major hate for the film "It's a Wonderful Life"  The whole premise makes me want to scream and throw things. (And yes, DS, I DO mean 'hate'!)

So there.  I'm glad to finally get that out.

(I do realize that likely says far more about me than it does about the film.   Believe me, I have done the amateur psychopathology analysis! :wink:)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: 3mnkids on September 20, 2010, 07:04:44 AM
I have a major hate for the film "It's a Wonderful Life"  The whole premise makes me want to scream and throw things. (And yes, DS, I DO mean 'hate'!)


I've never watched it and have no desire too.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 20, 2010, 08:31:37 AM
I have a major hate for the film "It's a Wonderful Life"  The whole premise makes me want to scream and throw things. (And yes, DS, I DO mean 'hate'!)


I've never watched it and have no desire too.  :smile:
Are you sure you mean hate its such a strong word?  :wink:  I watched the film once, meh whatever.  I thought it was overrated.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on September 20, 2010, 09:13:18 AM
I have a major hate for the film "It's a Wonderful Life"  The whole premise makes me want to scream and throw things. (And yes, DS, I DO mean 'hate'!)
Are you sure you mean hate its such a strong word?  :wink:  I watched the film once, meh whatever.  I thought it was overrated.

Oh, it's hate all right.  Fuelled in large part no doubt by the universal adulation the film seems to receive.   :tongueout:  I could take every copy, shred it with my bare hands and stab it repeatedly with a BBQ fork, stomp it in a mudpit, douse it with gasoline and dance around the flames as it burns.  I really don't like this film.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 20, 2010, 10:17:33 AM
I have a major hate for the film "It's a Wonderful Life"  The whole premise makes me want to scream and throw things. (And yes, DS, I DO mean 'hate'!)
Are you sure you mean hate its such a strong word?  :wink:  I watched the film once, meh whatever.  I thought it was overrated.

Oh, it's hate all right.  Fuelled in large part no doubt by the universal adulation the film seems to receive.   :tongueout:  I could take every copy, shred it with my bare hands and stab it repeatedly with a BBQ fork, stomp it in a mudpit, douse it with gasoline and dance around the flames as it burns.  I really don't like this film.

I used to think I hated it, but over time it came to the point where I realized I really didn't care about it one way or the other.  I'm pretty sure I've seen the whole thing over the years but I've never been able to watch more than 15 minutes of it at a time.  Most of it is snoozy but the ending is actually pretty good: Pottersville is a lot more interesting than Bedford Falls.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 22, 2010, 03:41:40 PM
Wow. Never thought Newt and I would be on complete opposite ends of an issue. I love It's A Wonderful Life. The ending is one of the very few cinematic moments that make me cry, and it's probably the only one that does so consistently.

Now Scrooged - that's a Christmas movie I can't stand. Well, not so much can't stand it as I saw it, I laughed, I liked the cast, and I really didn't feel a need to see it again. I just don't think it's so outstanding that it deserves the "holiday classic" status people give it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 22, 2010, 05:19:42 PM
I don't like the movie Christmas Shoes.   Its too bleak even for me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on September 22, 2010, 05:26:14 PM
I don't like the movie Christmas Shoes.   Its too bleak even for me.

I hate the song so I have no plans to see the movie. The song p**ses me off in way very few songs can.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: jimmybob on September 22, 2010, 09:20:42 PM
I've never been fond of any HBO original programming series.  Soprano's included.  Only show that looks promising to me is Boardwalk Empire.

Not even Tenacious D's old show?

-Jimmybob


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 22, 2010, 10:21:41 PM
I've never been fond of any HBO original programming series.  Soprano's included.  Only show that looks promising to me is Boardwalk Empire.

Not even Tenacious D's old show?

-Jimmybob
Not really.  Got kinda tiresome.  Although, I like their album output, I just didn't like the tv show. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 23, 2010, 07:55:29 PM
I pretty much find Kat Von D of LA Ink to be a bit repulsive and highly annoying.  


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 23, 2010, 09:27:31 PM
I pretty much find Kat Von D of LA Ink to be a bit repulsive and highly annoying.  

You mean most people think she isn't? That's kind of a surprise. :question:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 23, 2010, 09:29:42 PM
I pretty much find Kat Von D of LA Ink to be a bit repulsive and highly annoying.  

You mean most people think she isn't? That's kind of a surprise. :question:
Honestly I hear a lot of "she's so hot" from people around here.  I just don't get it.  Especially since she's been scribbled on so much.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 24, 2010, 08:28:34 AM
I pretty much find Kat Von D of LA Ink to be a bit repulsive and highly annoying.  

You mean most people think she isn't? That's kind of a surprise. :question:
Honestly I hear a lot of "she's so hot" from people around here.  I just don't get it.  Especially since she's been scribbled on so much.

I don't necessarily find her unattractive. I like tattoos, but I do think she's maybe overdone the work around her face to where I find it unflattering. Mosty, I just think she's annoying. Goes back to my first impression of her when they crossed over Miami Ink onto an episode of American Chopper and she was being such a snotty artiste on the phone with the Teutuls. Too good for the kind of work they wanted done, that sort of thing. Give me a break.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 24, 2010, 11:52:54 AM
Speaking of against the grain: I pretty much hate all tattoos (not people that wear them, mind you, just the way they look).  I've been patiently waiting for this fad to die out for 20 years now. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 24, 2010, 01:23:28 PM
I just find that a lot of people with tattoos have no sense of the tattoos as part of their overall appearance. People just get pictures all over themselves without any thought to making any of it fit together or blend with the shape of their bodies. People are walking around looking like suitcases with stickers all over them. I don't like when people just decide to get a tattoo of something on some part of their body, and give no further thought to it.

I also don't like wimpy tattoos. People who just want to get one, but don't want it to be conspicuous. Women, mostly. They get a tiny flower or a butterfly on their ankle or the base of their spine, or on a toe, just to say they've got one.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on September 24, 2010, 02:18:44 PM
Speaking of against the grain: I pretty much hate all tattoos (not people that wear them, mind you, just the way they look).  I've been patiently waiting for this fad to die out for 20 years now. 

My wife has a couple of small tattoos that don't bother me, but in general I just don't get the need people feel for tattoos, or extensive piercing, for that matter. And I've noticed that people get positively addicted to tattoos and piercing. People say "oh, I'm expressing myself." Really? Does that mean that the tattoos and piercings are compensating for a lack of ability to express yourself through words, ideas, or actions? I don't get that argument. Now, I'm not a religious person, but I could understand the argument of someone piercing or tattooing as part of some religious belief. I may think it's wacky, and I would, but I could buy that as a justification before the whole "I'm expressing myself" argument. To some extent I can understand someone getting a tattoo or a piercing because it increases their chance of getting laid. I may question the type of person they are trying to attract, and suggest they use a condom, but I certainly wouldn't judge. I've heard people say it's a form of fetishism. I don't really have fetishes, so I guess maybe I just don't relate to it. Maybe if I did I would get it. Wait, are bad movies a fetish? Hmmm.

And if anyone tells me they are expressing their "individuality" I might have a hard time stifling the urge to punch them in the throat. Individuality? Sorry, with as popular as tattoos and piercings are, I would say that I have a strong argument that NOT getting any tattoos or piercings is more individualistic. Tattoos and piercings do nothing to establish individuality or originality. Nice try, but no.

Anyway, sorry for the rant. I suspect the tattoo and piercing enthusiasts are going to unload on me now.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 24, 2010, 03:59:25 PM
Wait, are bad movies a fetish? Hmmm.

Depends. What are your hands doing when your watch them? :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on September 24, 2010, 05:19:42 PM


I also don't like wimpy tattoos. People who just want to get one, but don't want it to be conspicuous. Women, mostly. They get a tiny flower or a butterfly on their ankle or the base of their spine, or on a toe, just to say they've got one.

That's partly a practicality thing (although tattoos aren't, by any means, practical). If you want to work in a more professional/corporate setting, you can't have visible tattoos and you have to be careful about what kind of piercings you have (one or two ear piercings and small nasal piercings are usually okay as long as they don't call much attention to themselves.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on September 24, 2010, 08:28:33 PM
Tatoos on women are a turn off for me. 
The female body was and is the pinnacle of God's creation, the most perfect and beautiful thing on the planet (when it is in good condition and properly maintained!)
It does NOT need graffiti to enhance it!!!!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: 3mnkids on September 24, 2010, 09:09:45 PM
I love my tat   :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 24, 2010, 09:27:50 PM
I love my tat   :tongueout:
So do I!  Whatever and whever it is. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Saucerman on September 25, 2010, 06:24:59 PM
A woman wearing full-back panties is a lot more appealing to me than the same woman wearing a G-string.  This may just be more of my usual anachronistic attitudes; but my generation dictates that women wear thongs in order to be "hot." 

Just Say No to Butt-Floss. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on September 25, 2010, 08:07:29 PM
A woman wearing full-back panties is a lot more appealing to me than the same woman wearing a G-string.  This may just be more of my usual anachronistic attitudes; but my generation dictates that women wear thongs in order to be "hot." 

Just Say No to Butt-Floss. 

I only have a problem with thongs in public when they're combined with low-rise pants/skirts/shorts. Otherwise, no one but the girl in question knows that she's wearing a thong (just like no one but the girl wearing it should know what her bra looks like in public). Why do I have a problem that particular combination? It just screams "I'm easy and open to everyone." There's a difference between dressing sexy and dressing like a slut.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on September 25, 2010, 10:51:46 PM
I prefer short hair on women.

I'm the same way.  I also like brunettes. :teddyr:

I prefer red heads. :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on September 25, 2010, 11:03:53 PM
I also don't like wimpy tattoos. People who just want to get one, but don't want it to be conspicuous. Women, mostly. They get a tiny flower or a butterfly on their ankle or the base of their spine, or on a toe, just to say they've got one.

In our part of the woods they call that the "ho stamp" or the "tramp stamp."  It's also been called that on TV. 

And there are plenty of women in our area who fit the description..

Flip flops, a tube top with everything hanging out, and their little tattoos showing. Cigarette in one hand, keys in the other, with some white trash guy with grilled teeth and a backwards hat following behind spouting a laundry list of 4-lettered words as he swaggers in like John Wayne and talking like a Crip or a Blood. "Wi**ers" we call them.

They usually go in the convenience stores to stave off the munchies after their high, (or to get Visine and mint gum to hide their red eyes and their breath.)  I swear to God, COPS could have had 5 more seasons in my neighborhood..


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on September 25, 2010, 11:31:18 PM
I just find that a lot of people with tattoos have no sense of the tattoos as part of their overall appearance. People just get pictures all over themselves without any thought to making any of it fit together or blend with the shape of their bodies. People are walking around looking like suitcases with stickers all over them. I don't like when people just decide to get a tattoo of something on some part of their body, and give no further thought to it.

I also don't like wimpy tattoos. People who just want to get one, but don't want it to be conspicuous. Women, mostly. They get a tiny flower or a butterfly on their ankle or the base of their spine, or on a toe, just to say they've got one.

man, and I was gonna get a skull with a tip hat and eyeballs...... :lookingup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 26, 2010, 02:29:59 PM
I prefer short hair on women.

I'm the same way.  I also like brunettes. :teddyr:

I prefer red heads. :wink:

Bald chicks with sunburn?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 26, 2010, 02:35:40 PM
man, and I was gonna get a skull with a tip hat and eyeballs...... :lookingup:

As long as you put some thought into making it look like part of you and not just a picture you slapped on yourself somewhere, I have no issue with the content of the tattoo.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on September 26, 2010, 03:31:07 PM
I also never really got into the whole SIMPSONS thing.  The only grown-up cartoon I enjoy is the occasional episode of KING OF THE HILL.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on September 26, 2010, 03:48:34 PM
man, and I was gonna get a skull with a tip hat and eyeballs...... :lookingup:

As long as you put some thought into making it look like part of you and not just a picture you slapped on yourself somewhere, I have no issue with the content of the tattoo.

Well said.  I have this friend of mine who just gets tattoos of the stuff he likes, to make himself look cool.  He had Freddy Krueger on one arm, and the words "thunder one" tattooed in Japanese on his other arm, because Guitar Wolf is his favorite J-band.

He acts like it's some pinnacle of manhood, including criticizing those who don't get tattoos.  The guy's a real jerk on other fronts, but this will do for now..


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on September 26, 2010, 03:56:20 PM
man, and I was gonna get a skull with a tip hat and eyeballs...... :lookingup:

As long as you put some thought into making it look like part of you and not just a picture you slapped on yourself somewhere, I have no issue with the content of the tattoo.
it's going to be a symbol of where I'm born, the so-called Voodoo City New Orleans :bouncegiggle:

It's also a nickname I got when I was playing a soccer game- I scored 7 goals in one game! :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ulthar on September 26, 2010, 10:21:01 PM
man, and I was gonna get a skull with a tip hat and eyeballs...... :lookingup:


As long as you put some thought into making it look like part of you and not just a picture you slapped on yourself somewhere, I have no issue with the content of the tattoo.


Some of these are pretty creative... (http://nuffy.net/misc/pics/craziest-tattoos.html)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Paquita on September 27, 2010, 12:04:30 AM
A woman wearing full-back panties is a lot more appealing to me than the same woman wearing a G-string.  This may just be more of my usual anachronistic attitudes; but my generation dictates that women wear thongs in order to be "hot." 

Just Say No to Butt-Floss. 

I hate thongs too!  From what I hear, girls like the thongs, not only because they look snappy peeking out of the back of low-rise pants, but because they eliminate Visible Panty Lines.  Who the heck cares if you have visible panty lines?  Because, someone might actually know you’re wearing – oh my word – UNDERPANTS?!  I agree that panty lines look bad when your undies don’t fit properly, but is it really a big deal if someone can see the faint outline of well-fitting panties?  Have girls actually been approached by men who have said “Excuse me, m’lady, but I just couldn’t help but admire the symmetry of your panty lines.”?  I would totally love that, but I don’t think it happens. 
It’s unfortunate though that my husband loves them.  I still won’t wear one.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on September 27, 2010, 12:07:54 AM
Have girls actually been approached by men who have said “Excuse me, m’lady, but I just couldn’t help but admire the symmetry of your panty lines.”? 

Nothing I've ever said to any ladies lately, but there again, married life does that to you.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on September 27, 2010, 01:06:42 AM
There are only two kinds of tattoos I think work. 

First there are the big macho man tattoos worn by big burly tough guys.  The kind that look like they can do demolition work without using anything other than their fists.

The other kind are the tribal tattoos.  And these only work if you're actually a tribal person.   If you understand what both "pants" and "shirt" are, then you're probably not one of these.  ... and you're probably not reading this on the internet either. 

Anything that doesn't fit those two categories just looks tacky. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on September 27, 2010, 07:35:13 AM
man, and I was gonna get a skull with a tip hat and eyeballs...... :lookingup:


As long as you put some thought into making it look like part of you and not just a picture you slapped on yourself somewhere, I have no issue with the content of the tattoo.


Some of these are pretty creative... ([url]http://nuffy.net/misc/pics/craziest-tattoos.html[/url])

that tatooed tongue is......disturbing. :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on September 27, 2010, 08:26:37 AM
man, and I was gonna get a skull with a tip hat and eyeballs...... :lookingup:


As long as you put some thought into making it look like part of you and not just a picture you slapped on yourself somewhere, I have no issue with the content of the tattoo.


Some of these are pretty creative... ([url]http://nuffy.net/misc/pics/craziest-tattoos.html[/url])

that tatooed tongue is......disturbing. :wink:


And most likely photoshopped. I'd imagine that tongues would be a nightmare to tattoo since they don't stop moving ever slightly when stuck out.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on September 27, 2010, 09:40:38 AM
I prefer short hair on women.

I'm the same way.  I also like brunettes. :teddyr:

I prefer red heads. :wink:

Me too. And I married one. Yay for me!!!!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 27, 2010, 09:33:56 PM
Myself, I may be getting a tattoo.

I've since narrowed it down to Slimer from Ghostbusters or a Killer Tomato. :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on September 27, 2010, 10:36:03 PM
Myself, I may be getting a tattoo.

I've since narrowed it down to Slimer from Ghostbusters or a Killer Tomato. :wink:

Ditto. As soon as I land myself a job that actually gives me hours, I'm going to save up to get a tattoo of my first gecko on my shoulder. I might design it so that the tattoo is of her curled up like an urobouro, but I've got tons of time to work on that (what? I've had a couple of years of art training now; there's no reason why I should let someone else design something like that for me when I'm perfectly capable of doing it myself).


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 28, 2010, 09:46:39 AM
I don't like hot dogs.  The very smell of them gets me kind of nascious.  Funny too because I used to eat them a lot when I was a kid. 

I'm not a fan of mustard unless its the really hot variety you get in Chinese restaurants. 



Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on September 28, 2010, 10:02:31 AM
I'm not a fan of mustard unless its the really hot variety you get in Chinese restaurants. 

That's somewhere I seem to differ from everyone I know. I much prefer the hot mustard on egg rolls over plum sauce. I always have to make sure it's included when we order out for Chinese. Usually, no matter how big the order, there's one packet of hot mustard, if that. I have yet to find a hot mustard at the supermarket that tastes like the Chinese mustard, and there aren't a whole lot of ethnic grocery stores where I live.

But I do like the regular yellow mustard a lot too, and most other kinds.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on September 28, 2010, 08:26:52 PM
I don't like hot dogs.  The very smell of them gets me kind of nascious.  Funny too because I used to eat them a lot when I was a kid.  

I'm not a fan of mustard unless its the really hot variety you get in Chinese restaurants.  



You mean the stuff that will vaporize your nasal cavities and cure you of your cold in 5 minutes flat, while it eats the paint off of your walls?     :bouncegiggle:
 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on September 28, 2010, 08:36:14 PM
I don't like hot dogs.  The very smell of them gets me kind of nascious.  Funny too because I used to eat them a lot when I was a kid.  

I'm not a fan of mustard unless its the really hot variety you get in Chinese restaurants.  



You mean the stuff that will vaporize your nasal cavities and cure you of your cold in 5 minutes flat, while it eats the paint off of your walls?     :bouncegiggle:
 
Yes that wonderful acidic stuff.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 28, 2010, 09:35:52 PM
I don't like hot dogs.  The very smell of them gets me kind of nascious.  Funny too because I used to eat them a lot when I was a kid. 

I'm not a fan of mustard unless its the really hot variety you get in Chinese restaurants. 


I like hot mustard myself.  I very rarely use the French's Brand of mustard or any of the 'sweeter' type mustards.  I rarely eat hot dogs anymore, although my friend makes a great hot dog sandwich where he cuts it up, adds some spinach, eggs, cilantro and peppers and puts it on a kaiser roll.  Pretty good.  I also like Texas Tommy's: A hot dog wrapped in bacon and cooked. :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on September 29, 2010, 10:15:05 AM
I eat smoked sausage with regular yellow mustard, as well as corned beef. I also can't even fathom eathing a ham or turkey sandwich, or a hot dog (although I rarely eat those) without mustard on it. I think my tastebuds are programmed for mustard. To each their own.

And yes, I love the hot chinese mustard on all chinese finger foods (egg rolls, fried wontons, etc.) and never touch the plum sauce.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BTM on September 29, 2010, 12:28:22 PM

Lots of people make fun of Ashton Kutcher, but I think he did a good job in The Butterfly Effect.  Now, if he could only find another decent role to play...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on September 29, 2010, 07:18:00 PM

Lots of people make fun of Ashton Kutcher, but I think he did a good job in The Butterfly Effect.  Now, if he could only find another decent role to play...
You mean you were unimpressed with Dude Where's My Car and So I Got Married?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on October 02, 2010, 02:51:32 PM
Okay, I'll admit it... I HATE Bugatti's, They're ugly!

I also hate Corvettes, cept the 53 54 Vettes.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on October 02, 2010, 05:14:46 PM
I think much less than half of the babies in the world are "cute".  Matter of fact there are some rather ugly ones out there. Yep, I have no mercy, sorry. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on October 02, 2010, 09:08:12 PM
Something nobody else has said: I like Ashlee Simpson.  In fact, I'm listening to her debut cd right now as I type this.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 03, 2010, 10:35:25 AM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on October 03, 2010, 12:49:45 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
That's AWESOME! :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 03, 2010, 01:18:13 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
That's AWESOME! :wink:

I hate that reply!  :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on October 03, 2010, 02:02:31 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
That's AWESOME! :wink:

I hate that reply!  :wink:
D'oh! :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 06, 2010, 11:24:53 AM
I support intellectual property rights and I'm against copyright infringement.  I find the fact that so many people believe that they have some right to free entertainment and that the artists and people who slaved to bring it to them don't have the right to be paid for their work depressing. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on October 06, 2010, 01:14:16 PM
I support intellectual property rights and I'm against copyright infringement.  I find the fact that so many people believe that they have some right to free entertainment and that the artists and people who slaved to bring it to them don't have the right to be paid for their work depressing. 

I find it depressing that this is considered to be 'against the grain'.  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on October 06, 2010, 03:26:55 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
I think you're awesome. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 06, 2010, 03:49:40 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
I think you're awesome. 

Wow, that puts me in an awkward position...   :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 06, 2010, 05:33:08 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
I think you're awesome. 

Wow, that puts me in an awkward position...   :wink:

I know for a fact you secretly think you're awesomely awesome, Rev!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on October 06, 2010, 06:01:31 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
I think you're awesome. 

Wow, that puts me in an awkward position...   :wink:

I know for a fact you secretly think you're awesomely awesome, Rev!

Well, awesomely awesome is a double-awesome, which according to Rev's theory, would mean he really IS awesome, and not hated at all. It's kind of like the double-negative thing.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 06, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
I think you're awesome. 

Wow, that puts me in an awkward position...   :wink:

I know for a fact you secretly think you're awesomely awesome, Rev!

Well, awesomely awesome is a double-awesome, which according to Rev's theory, would mean he really IS awesome, and not hated at all. It's kind of like the double-negative thing.

Maybe I messed up grammar-wise, but I meant that he thinks he is so awesome that the level at which he is awesome is awesome in its own right. Therefore both uses of awesome refer to something different.

I swear this makes sense, but in a way that is really hard to put into words.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on October 07, 2010, 12:39:39 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
I think you're awesome. 

Wow, that puts me in an awkward position...   :wink:

I know for a fact you secretly think you're awesomely awesome, Rev!

Well, awesomely awesome is a double-awesome, which according to Rev's theory, would mean he really IS awesome, and not hated at all. It's kind of like the double-negative thing.

Maybe I messed up grammar-wise, but I meant that he thinks he is so awesome that the level at which he is awesome is awesome in its own right. Therefore both uses of awesome refer to something different.

I swear this makes sense, but in a way that is really hard to put into words.

Maybe a visual aid would help. Perhaps we could someone to write a play and get a group of interpretive dancers to help explain it.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on October 07, 2010, 01:17:35 PM
I'm getting to work on the awesomely awesome dance as we speak.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 07, 2010, 01:32:43 PM
When someone says something is "awesome," I can generally take it to mean I'm going to hate it. 
I think you're awesome. 

Wow, that puts me in an awkward position...   :wink:

I know for a fact you secretly think you're awesomely awesome, Rev!

Well, awesomely awesome is a double-awesome, which according to Rev's theory, would mean he really IS awesome, and not hated at all. It's kind of like the double-negative thing.

Maybe I messed up grammar-wise, but I meant that he thinks he is so awesome that the level at which he is awesome is awesome in its own right. Therefore both uses of awesome refer to something different.

I swear this makes sense, but in a way that is really hard to put into words.

Maybe a visual aid would help. Perhaps we could someone to write a play and get a group of interpretive dancers to help explain it.

Good idea, but I feel like it would just make things even more complicated. Still it's an awesome idea.   :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 07, 2010, 03:17:27 PM
Flick was right about the meaning of "awesomely awesome".

I remember when "awesome" first came into usage in the 1980s as part of Valley Girl lingo (along with the horrible variations like "t-totally awesome") I was sure it would die out as a fad within a couple of years.  Oops. 

Hope I have better luck with the tattoo fad, it seems like I've been waiting for it to die out for a decade.  I think when kids start seeing their moms at the beach with their lower back tattoos stretched out and distorted by their expanding waistlines they will cease to look "awesome" to the coming generation.  :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on October 07, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
Flick was right about the meaning of "awesomely awesome".

I remember when "awesome" first came into usage in the 1980s as part of Valley Girl lingo (along with the horrible variations like "t-totally awesome") I was sure it would die out as a fad within a couple of years.  Oops. 

Hope I have better luck with the tattoo fad, it seems like I've been waiting for it to die out for a decade.  I think when kids start seeing their moms at the beach with their lower back tattoos stretched out and distorted by their expanding waistlines they will cease to look "awesome" to the coming generation.  :wink:

Sadly, if WalMart culture is any indication, this may not happen.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 07, 2010, 09:24:50 PM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on October 07, 2010, 09:40:20 PM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

I think that's great. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 08, 2010, 07:30:38 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

I think that's great. :teddyr:

I'll admit, I use the word awesome way too much. It's fun to say!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on October 08, 2010, 07:48:47 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

I think that's great. :teddyr:

I'll admit, I use the word awesome way too much. It's fun to say!

Seriously, if somebody wants to use a word for something huge or awe-inspiring to mean "good," I think it's GREAT.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 08, 2010, 07:52:11 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

I think that's great. :teddyr:

I'll admit, I use the word awesome way too much. It's fun to say!

Seriously, if somebody wants to use a word for something huge or awe-inspiring to mean "good," I think it's GREAT.

Awesome.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on October 08, 2010, 08:02:40 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

I think that's great. :teddyr:

I'll admit, I use the word awesome way too much. It's fun to say!

Seriously, if somebody wants to use a word for something huge or awe-inspiring to mean "good," I think it's GREAT.

Awesome.  :thumbup:

Wicked! :teddyr:

The one that seems kind of funny in hindsight is "decent," which we used all the time when I was a kid. It's like emphasizing the goodness of something with an understatement. "Yeah, that's proper and acceptable."


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on October 08, 2010, 08:15:37 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

Another interesting note: "Awful" originally meant about the same thing--"so as to inspire reverence." It didn't originally have the strictly negative connotations it has now.

Gorgeous Woman: "How do I look?"
13th Century Man: "Awful!"
*SLAP*


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on October 08, 2010, 08:39:05 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

Another interesting note: "Awful" originally meant about the same thing--"so as to inspire reverence." It didn't originally have the strictly negative connotations it has now.

Gorgeous Woman: "How do I look?"
13th Century Man: "Awful!"
*SLAP*

And "terrific" things are supposed to terrify us, in the same way that horrific things horrify us. "Fantastic" things are products of imagination, while "fabulous" things are the subject of myths and legends.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 08, 2010, 11:07:10 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

Another interesting note: "Awful" originally meant about the same thing--"so as to inspire reverence." It didn't originally have the strictly negative connotations it has now.

Gorgeous Woman: "How do I look?"
13th Century Man: "Awful!"
*SLAP*

And "terrific" things are supposed to terrify us, in the same way that horrific things horrify us. "Fantastic" things are products of imaginations, while "fabulous" things are the subject of myths and legends.

And we should all strive to be "gay" (happy and carefree).


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 08, 2010, 11:52:08 AM
Interesting note about the word awesome:

If I'm not mistaken awesome (at least according to the dictionary) does not necessarily indicate something good. It just means something awe-inspiring or wonder-causing, but people usually use in the same way as saying "cool" or "sweet".  That's not necessarily bad, but I do find it interesting.

Another interesting note: "Awful" originally meant about the same thing--"so as to inspire reverence." It didn't originally have the strictly negative connotations it has now.

Gorgeous Woman: "How do I look?"
13th Century Man: "Awful!"
*SLAP*

And "terrific" things are supposed to terrify us, in the same way that horrific things horrify us. "Fantastic" things are products of imaginations, while "fabulous" things are the subject of myths and legends.

And we should all strive to be "gay" (happy and carefree).

I'm going to be a typical high schooler:  "Hahahahahahaha hehehehehe THE REV IS GAY!!!!  ahahahaahahahahaahaha heehehehehehehehe HOLY s**t, did you hear? THE REV IS GAY!!!!"

About 85% of my former classmates would have found that hilarious. :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on October 08, 2010, 07:38:13 PM
I'm not very gay right now  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 08, 2010, 07:48:15 PM
I'm not very gay right now  :bluesad:

I'm sorry to hear that.  Try singing a showtune.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on October 08, 2010, 07:54:56 PM
I'm not very gay right now  :bluesad:

I'm sorry to hear that.  Try singing a showtune.  :teddyr:
Seriously Rev, even waxing my eyebrows won't cheer me up.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on October 08, 2010, 08:16:08 PM
I'm not very gay right now  :bluesad:

I'm sorry to hear that.  Try singing a showtune.  :teddyr:
Seriously Rev, even waxing my eyebrows won't cheer me up.

How about a manicure? Ooh! Or a nice, relaxing day at a spa!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on October 08, 2010, 08:27:53 PM
I'm not very gay right now  :bluesad:

I'm sorry to hear that.  Try singing a showtune.  :teddyr:
Seriously Rev, even waxing my eyebrows won't cheer me up.

How about a manicure? Ooh! Or a nice, relaxing day at a spa!
This thread is making me feel a bit more gay. I mean seriously how do you all stay so gay on this board?


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on October 08, 2010, 08:33:11 PM
I'm not very gay right now  :bluesad:

I'm sorry to hear that.  Try singing a showtune.  :teddyr:
Seriously Rev, even waxing my eyebrows won't cheer me up.

How about a manicure? Ooh! Or a nice, relaxing day at a spa!
This thread is making me feel a bit more gay. I mean seriously how do you all stay so gay on this board?

We all have the mentallity of a 3 year old. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on October 08, 2010, 08:35:07 PM
I really like all of your gay comments.  Perhaps one day I can be as gay as you all!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on October 08, 2010, 09:18:10 PM
I really like all of your gay comments.  Perhaps one day I can be as gay as you all!

If it helps any, I think you're already way gayer than I am.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Sleepyskull on October 08, 2010, 09:44:32 PM
If you want to get straight to the song I'm Gay skip to 1:27.

It's from the movie Brain Candy, by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQuzui7Br04

Another video from the same movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsVpdBIi1BU


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on October 09, 2010, 06:46:00 AM
I really like all of your gay comments.  Perhaps one day I can be as gay as you all!

If it helps any, I think you're already way gayer than I am.
Perhaps Derf, I think deep down inside we're all a bit gay though.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: claws on October 15, 2010, 08:18:03 AM
I don't watch edited movies on TV. I'm surprised how many people actually don't mind watching edited movies on TV because it's "free" and "happens to be on".
I enjoy movies too much to see some censored version.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on October 15, 2010, 08:34:16 AM
I don't watch edited movies on TV. I'm surprised how many people actually don't mind watching edited movies on TV because it's "free" and "happens to be on".
I enjoy movies too much to see some censored version.

I tend to agree, but the editing can sometimes add a whole extra level of fun, of the same kind you get from a really bad movie. Of course, it has to be a movie with a lot of swearing, the dubbed words have to make little or no sense, and the changes must be so conspicuous that they sound ridiculous and almost emphasize the words they're supposed to cover up. Really obvious and really bad.

Repo Man was like that when it was getting aired frequently on A&E. "Flip you, melonfarmer!" I seriously had a hard time choosing which I liked better, unedited or badly edited.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flick James on October 15, 2010, 09:15:28 AM
While I agree with claws' post ideologically, I can't deny I like the ring of "Flip you, melonfarmer!"


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: The Gravekeeper on October 15, 2010, 09:18:55 AM
I don't watch edited movies on TV. I'm surprised how many people actually don't mind watching edited movies on TV because it's "free" and "happens to be on".
I enjoy movies too much to see some censored version.

I generally avoid TV movies (since I generally avoid TV), but when I know a movie well and I know that it doesn't meet TV's standards, I kind of enjoy trying to guess just what they're going to cut out. I still remember watching a bit of "Return of the Living Dead" when it was aired in the middle of the day on Christmas. As soon as I got over the "what the heck?" moment, I sat down and started guessing at just how much of the gore they were going to cut out for a mid-day broadcast.

Turns out they left quite a bit of it in. Of course the nude dancing had to go, but most of the gore (which was more plot-related anyway) stayed.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on October 15, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
I dispute the fact that swimming is the easiest exercise- I say walking is!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on October 15, 2010, 02:36:19 PM
I dispute the fact that swimming is the easiest exercise- I say walking is!

Depends on the condition of your joints.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 15, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
I dispute the fact that swimming is the easiest exercise- I say walking is!

Depends on the condition of your joints.

Yeah, my joints are always ruined when I accidentally take them with me swimming!  :hatred:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on November 12, 2010, 01:53:27 PM
I like The Big Bang Theory.  It makes me laugh.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on November 12, 2010, 06:26:04 PM
I hate winter jackets. I avoid them as long as I can.  I'm the lunatic you see walking in the cold wearing a tshirt.  Its just something I can't stand about going into a store wearing one and sweating my @ss off. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on November 12, 2010, 06:44:04 PM
I hate winter jackets. I avoid them as long as I can.  I'm the lunatic you see walking in the cold wearing a tshirt.  Its just something I can't stand about going into a store wearing one and sweating my @ss off. 
hehehe, I ALWAYS wear shorts and a tshirt in the winter.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on November 12, 2010, 09:31:00 PM
I hate winter jackets. I avoid them as long as I can.  I'm the lunatic you see walking in the cold wearing a tshirt.  Its just something I can't stand about going into a store wearing one and sweating my @ss off. 
hehehe, I ALWAYS wear shorts and a tshirt in the winter.
Same here.  We got hit with that Snowmageddon storm last winter..had like, 30 some odd inches of snow in 12 hours or something.  My dumb ass is walking to the store in shorts, a t-shirt and I think a hoodie as a jacket.

Yet, it's 100 degrees outside and I wear pants and a hoodie and thermal shirt. :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on November 13, 2010, 10:48:51 AM
I'm pretty firmly set in my ways when it comes to dressing for outside, which means I seldom wear a light jacket. I get used to dressing for either the warm or the cold, and don't usually get around to changing until the weather has swung all the way from one to the other. I go out without a coat until the temperature starts dipping toward freezing on a regular basis, and I go straight from no coat to a heavy one. I will then most likely go out in my winter coat until some point in April or May when I don't need a coat at all. I like my routine, I don't like to think about what I'm going to wear, and I'm comfortable in a pretty wide temperature range. I don't really notice the heat or cold until it gets really hot or really cold.

Right now, I don't really even own a decent light jacket. I think about buying one every spring and fall, but usually so late I decide there's no point in spending the money on something I might only need for a week or two.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on November 27, 2010, 01:11:41 PM
despite what most people would say, I Liked Transformers 1 with Shia Whateverhislastnameis.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on November 27, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
Shia The Beef.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 27, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
Despite having over 1 billion views on Youtube, I do NOT like Gangnam Style.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Newt on December 27, 2012, 08:11:20 PM
Despite having over 1 billion views on Youtube, I do NOT like Gangnam Style.

Gangnam Style makes my skin crawl.  Totally revolting.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 27, 2012, 08:12:50 PM
Despite having over 1 billion views on Youtube, I do NOT like Gangnam Style.

Gangnam Style makes my skin crawl.  Totally revolting.

Ahh, so I'm not only the .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the population who doesn't like Gagnam Style :wink:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: RCMerchant on December 28, 2012, 12:33:21 AM
I'm an atheist. You would think having a quadriple by-pass heart surgery would make me believe in some kinda god. Guess again-I am doing great and it just reaffirms my belief in human will power-we all die-and I aint scared. Death is just a natural progression.We ALL die-its the one definite in an indefinte world.That somehow makes me happy. Death dont scare me. Life dont scare me either. Its all good. :thumbup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: AndyC on December 28, 2012, 11:43:36 AM
Despite having over 1 billion views on Youtube, I do NOT like Gangnam Style.

Gangnam Style makes my skin crawl.  Totally revolting.

Yeah, add that one to the list of fads I just don't get.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ChaosTheory on December 28, 2012, 12:56:03 PM
I have always found George Clooney extremely off-putting.  I don't think he's charming or sexy at all and it's really kind of disturbing the way people fawn over him.



re: Gangnam Style, I can take or leave it.  "Call Me Maybe" on the other hand, makes me want to destroy everything that lives.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on December 28, 2012, 01:15:20 PM
I quitelike Gangnam style SONG, but the dance crace, no not at all.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 28, 2012, 01:46:36 PM

"Call Me Maybe" on the other hand, makes me want to destroy everything that lives.

Same here. :bouncegiggle: Wow, so we do have stuff in common! :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on December 28, 2012, 09:06:08 PM
I have never seen a single one of the ROCKY movies.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: the ghoul on December 28, 2012, 09:30:54 PM
Despite having over 1 billion views on Youtube, I do NOT like Gangnam Style.

Gangnam Style makes my skin crawl.  Totally revolting.

Yeah, add that one to the list of fads I just don't get.

It made me chuckle a bit when I watched it.  It's one of those so stupid it's funny things.  I can think of things that are a lot more revolting.  It is sad, however, that our culture has sunk so low that this could even reach "fad" status.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ER on December 29, 2012, 12:56:33 AM
I actually liked The Phantom Menace. I liked it a lot!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on December 29, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
I like Gangham Style... :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ChaosTheory on December 29, 2012, 01:13:06 PM
I have never seen a single one of the ROCKY movies.

 :buggedout:  I think you may be the only person I've met who can claim that.  Is it an aversion to Stallone in general?  Because they're not all terrible, really just 4 & 5


"Call Me Maybe" on the other hand, makes me want to destroy everything that lives.

Same here. :bouncegiggle: Wow, so we do have stuff in common! :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I'll alert the media  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: voltron on December 29, 2012, 07:43:13 PM
I actually like American Idol and The X Factor. I have no idea why. I think that singing other people's songs is not a mark of talent and the winners usually wind up in the cutout bin a few months later. Yet I dutifully watch them whenever they're on. Go figure.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on December 30, 2012, 07:18:03 AM
I watched about 15 seconds of that Gangham thing on Youtube.  Sounded like the same old crap to me.

I remember back in the '70s and '80s, one style of music would get hugely popular and then die out completely because people were sick of it and wanted something new.  But ever since the mid '90s it's just been slightly different flavors of the same old sh!t.  No wonder music sales grew and grew right up until 1994, then went flat until 1999, and it's been in a permanent state of decline ever since.  They're actually selling less music today than they were in 1975, which was the worst year for sales in the last 40 years.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: claws on December 30, 2012, 08:27:07 AM
Another novelty song and dance? Haven't seen or heard this video so far, and I wanna keep it that way.
Though it's been a few years but I'm still reeling from this  :bouncegiggle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IQ0snWgef0


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on December 30, 2012, 01:02:02 PM
Get your torches and pick-forks ready, but I don't not care bacon at all.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on January 11, 2013, 11:03:29 AM
The Dark Knight Rises is the most overrated, boring, nonsensical, mind numbingly awful sack of rancid fecal matter that has ever been called a Batman movie.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on January 11, 2013, 11:56:11 AM
The Dark Knight Rises is the most overrated, boring, nonsensical, mind numbingly awful sack of rancid fecal matter that has ever been called a Batman movie.

Well, with regard to what passes for a movie these days, it goes back to Adam West's classic line in the 1966 Batman movie:

"Somedays you can't get rid of a bomb!"   :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 15, 2013, 04:37:48 AM
I can never understand the love for a film like Heaven's Gate: I have never been able to take it seriously as it cost sh*tloads of money, destroyed a promising director's career and almost destroyed United Artists. And what is it exactly? An overblown, dreary Western.  :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ChaosTheory on January 15, 2013, 01:37:29 PM
I can never understand the love for a film like Heaven's Gate: I have never been able to take it seriously as it cost sh*tloads of money, destroyed a promising director's career and almost destroyed United Artists. And what is it exactly? An overblown, dreary Western.  :tongueout:

I'm guessing it's one of those situations like DUNE or ISHTAR, where it develops a following simply because it's notorious and not so much due to any quality. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on January 17, 2013, 02:36:12 AM
I can never understand the love for a film like Heaven's Gate: I have never been able to take it seriously as it cost sh*tloads of money, destroyed a promising director's career and almost destroyed United Artists. And what is it exactly? An overblown, dreary Western.  :tongueout:

I'm guessing it's one of those situations like DUNE or ISHTAR, where it develops a following simply because it's notorious and not so much due to any quality. 

I agree. I saw it in 1981 at my home town cinema. I think it ran for 149 minutes and then most people ran out of the cinema  :tongueout:. I said then: "What am I watching?" I bought it on DVD last year, watched it (the 210 minute version) and asked "What am I watching?"  :question:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on January 17, 2013, 09:06:19 AM
Death is just a natural progression.We ALL die-its the one definite in an indefinte world.
I refuse to give into peer pressure.  Just because everybody else is dying doesn't mean I have to die too. 

I plan on living forever. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on January 17, 2013, 12:55:16 PM
Death is just a natural progression.We ALL die-its the one definite in an indefinte world.
I refuse to give into peer pressure.  Just because everybody else is dying doesn't mean I have to die too. 

I plan on living forever. 

Yeah,I don't think dying is a viable option at this point in history, because the economy and the healthcare syatem are so busted that you'd have to work for the rest of your afterlife to pay for your funeral!   :buggedout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on January 17, 2013, 01:25:52 PM
Death is just a natural progression.We ALL die-its the one definite in an indefinte world.
I refuse to give into peer pressure.  Just because everybody else is dying doesn't mean I have to die too. 

I plan on living forever. 

From Casshern Sins Project
"If you've forgotten death..then you've forgotten what it truely means to be alive"


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on May 12, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
I don't understand the strive for some people to physically look different.  The the first thing that comes to mind when i see someone with multiple piercing and pink hair is "goodbye employability".  I also find these people make up for lack of personality with these freak like appearances.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on May 12, 2013, 10:54:30 PM
I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but I think the female body needs tatoos the way the Sistine Chapel needs gang graffitit!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: LilCerberus on May 12, 2013, 11:34:11 PM
I don't get any of the advice they've been giving job seekers over the past fifteen years.

Being in unskilled labor, I wouldn't turn to Ivanka Trump for career advice, especially if she's just going to be parroting the same conformist BS as a thousand snot nosed commie pigs before her.

And what on God's green Earth is wrong with saying "Because I need a job!" ? I mean, that's kinda the whole point, aint it?

My grandfather got his first job driving dump trucks. Foreman asked him what he knew about driving dump trucks, & he shrugged his shoulders & said "Not a dadburn thing." He got the job because he was the only candidate that day who actually told the truth.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ER on May 13, 2013, 03:38:38 PM
I think The Breakfast Club is a terrible movie.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on May 13, 2013, 07:08:35 PM
I think The Breakfast Club is a terrible movie.
Im that way with most of the 80s brat pack movies...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on May 14, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but I think the female body needs tatoos the way the Sistine Chapel needs gang graffitit!

Agreed: take Kat Von D for an example, gorgeous lady but why does she feel the need to cover herself in all that crap?  :buggedout: :question:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on May 14, 2013, 08:23:24 PM
I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but I think the female body needs tatoos the way the Sistine Chapel needs gang graffitit!

Agreed: take Kat Von D for an example, gorgeous lady but why does she feel the need to cover herself in all that crap?  :buggedout: :question:

Agreeing with Trevor and Indy on this one. People go WAY too far with tattoos and all this other stuff, it's something I never quite understood, other than the need to attract attention and stand out (and man do they ever stand out!)

But for all we know, there's probably some women in a port in South Africa with a pair of undies with Trevor's name in the middle tattooed on her arm  :bouncegiggle: :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 14, 2013, 08:40:01 PM
I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but I think the female body needs tatoos the way the Sistine Chapel needs gang graffitit!

Agreed: take Kat Von D for an example, gorgeous lady but why does she feel the need to cover herself in all that crap?  :buggedout: :question:

Agreeing with Trevor and Indy on this one. People go WAY too far with tattoos and all this other stuff, it's something I never quite understood, other than the need to attract attention and stand out (and man do they ever stand out!)

But for all we know, there's probably some women in a port in South Africa with a pair of undies with Trevor's name in the middle tattooed on her arm  :bouncegiggle: :tongueout:

I have been waiting for tattoos to go out of fashion for 20 years now.  :bluesad: Children of the people who got them back in the 90s should now be rebelling and thinking that tramp stamps and barbed wire biceps are old fashioned and lame. Doesn't seem to be happening yet, in fact ink seems to be getting worse.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on May 15, 2013, 12:49:17 AM
But for all we know, there's probably some women in a port in South Africa with a pair of undies with Trevor's name in the middle tattooed on her arm  :bouncegiggle: :tongueout:

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

No woman in her right mind would stoop THAT low.  :buggedout: + :teddyr: :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: FatFreddysCat on May 15, 2013, 07:57:53 AM
How's this for an unpopular opinion? I love "Jason X." I just watched it last night for the fifth or sixth time.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on May 16, 2013, 07:08:57 AM
How's this for an unpopular opinion? I love "Jason X." I just watched it last night for the fifth or sixth time.

Yeah? Well, I love Robert Altman's Popeye starring Robin Williams, own the DVD and think it is a wonderfully entertaining movie. So nyeh.  :tongueout:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on May 16, 2013, 02:32:44 PM
How's this for an unpopular opinion? I love "Jason X." I just watched it last night for the fifth or sixth time.

I'm sure I've watched it 5 or 6 times too lol.  I love it  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ER on May 16, 2013, 05:57:10 PM
I think Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone was the best in the series both on screen and in print.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on May 18, 2013, 09:14:54 PM
How's this for an unpopular opinion? I love "Jason X." I just watched it last night for the fifth or sixth time.

Yeah? Well, I love Robert Altman's Popeye starring Robin Williams, own the DVD and think it is a wonderfully entertaining movie. So nyeh.  :tongueout:
Liking Popeye is an unpopular opinion? 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on May 19, 2013, 06:37:04 AM
How's this for an unpopular opinion? I love "Jason X." I just watched it last night for the fifth or sixth time.

Yeah? Well, I love Robert Altman's Popeye starring Robin Williams, own the DVD and think it is a wonderfully entertaining movie. So nyeh.  :tongueout:
Liking Popeye is an unpopular opinion? 

On this board, slightly. It's one of those films that was panned so widely that even Robin Williams said he hated it. I looked at the IMDB page, and its rating has gone up over the years.

How's this: I don't mind Justin Bieber. I don't listen to him, but I am actually happy that a kid who posted a few You Tube videos became popular enough to make a career (so far) out of doing something he loves. Sure, he's a twit, but many kids are.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ER on May 19, 2013, 11:48:56 AM
I think the classic Doctor Who episodes blow the 21st century revival out of the water. That's not to say there haven't been some fine Who moments among the new doctors, it's just as if the stories lack a quality of soul the old ones possessed. Sometimes that's left me watching Smith, Eccelston and Tennant more out of nostalgia and a sense of hopefulness than because I am genuinely loving what I see on screen.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ChaosTheory on May 19, 2013, 04:10:20 PM
How's this for an unpopular opinion? I love "Jason X." I just watched it last night for the fifth or sixth time.

Yeah? Well, I love Robert Altman's Popeye starring Robin Williams, own the DVD and think it is a wonderfully entertaining movie. So nyeh.  :tongueout:

I like the new STAR TREK movies.  Beat that.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on May 19, 2013, 09:45:45 PM
I actually think Jar Jar Binks added some much needed comic relief to the Star Wars prequels. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: claws on May 20, 2013, 01:17:57 AM
Pretty sure I've mentioned some of these before.

The Onion is overrated and not all that funny.
I do not follow George Takei on Facebook.
cracked.com is bogus ever since they claimed it wasn't Superman fighting Muhammad Ali in the famous 1978 comic.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on May 20, 2013, 11:21:30 AM
Quote
The Onion is overrated and not all that funny.
Agreed.

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I do not follow George Takei on Facebook.
Wasn't even aware he had one.  Then again, I don't do anything that involves facebook. 

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cracked.com is bogus ever since they claimed it wasn't Superman fighting Muhammad Ali in the famous 1978 comic.
They're still good sometimes, but what bothers me is how often they feel the need to say anything supernatural or unexplained is just stupidity and people are idiots for believing it. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ChaosTheory on May 22, 2013, 11:40:46 AM

The Onion is overrated and not all that funny.


Agree.  I used to love it but it's pretty much insufferable hipster central these days.

Quote
I do not follow George Takei on Facebook.

I don't either but I do enjoy his youtube channel.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: LilCerberus on May 22, 2013, 01:58:11 PM
This thread keeps reminding me of that Bob Seger song........


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on May 23, 2013, 11:47:34 AM
I truly feel all jewlery is a waste of money.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ER on May 23, 2013, 06:10:45 PM
I don't care for coffee.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 23, 2013, 06:14:58 PM
I can't stand barley, wheat or rye!

(Unless they've been fermented).


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on June 01, 2013, 11:00:11 PM
Superman...

I. Hate. Superman.
He is the most boring, overpowered super hero that, on paper, sounds like two arguing five year old's made up.

"He has super strength, certain solar radiation makes him even stronger, he can shoot lasers, breath ice, go so fast he can go back in time or make the Earth spin different, oh man, he is so cool, and he has NO weaknesses!"
"C'moooon, that's not fair, he has to weak against something!"
"Fine! He weaks against.........this green rock, but, but, it's SO rare and hard to find that barely anyone will ever be able to use it one him"

At least some of his villains are cool, like Blight, Lobo, and Zod.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: RCMerchant on June 02, 2013, 08:46:51 AM
I can't stand barley, wheat or rye!

(Unless they've been fermented).
A man after me own heart! Arf arf arf arf! (Thats a Popeye laff)


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on June 03, 2013, 09:03:37 PM
Superman...

I. Hate. Superman.
He is the most boring, overpowered super hero that, on paper, sounds like two arguing five year old's made up.

"He has super strength, certain solar radiation makes him even stronger, he can shoot lasers, breath ice, go so fast he can go back in time or make the Earth spin different, oh man, he is so cool, and he has NO weaknesses!"
"C'moooon, that's not fair, he has to weak against something!"
"Fine! He weaks against.........this green rock, but, but, it's SO rare and hard to find that barely anyone will ever be able to use it one him"

At least some of his villains are cool, like Blight, Lobo, and Zod.
I often feel the same way about Batman. 

Oh, he's a hansom, multi-gazillionaire, that knows, 187 types of martial arts and is the most skilled person in every possible skill ever and he can take down any superhero because he's smarter than anybody and already has weapons for anything he could possible need and he's this cool brooding loner that doesn't trust anyone, and has 15 different sidekicks that look up to him and he's just soooooo realistic too!

Don't get me wrong, I do like Batman, but I like Batman when they acknowledge that he's not the best at everything in the world and when they don't take him too seriously. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: zelmo73 on October 21, 2013, 06:20:52 PM
Among many other musical artists, I also like Lady Gaga.  :twirl:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: claws on October 22, 2013, 05:07:26 AM
Among many other musical artists, I also like Lady Gaga.  :twirl:

You and about 100 Million other people  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: El Misfit on October 22, 2013, 08:02:03 AM
I'm not sure about you guys, but I hate the taste of beer, I prefer wine to beer.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: zelmo73 on October 22, 2013, 08:40:16 AM
Among many other musical artists, I also like Lady Gaga.  :twirl:

You and about 100 Million other people  :teddyr:

I'm "against the grain" of the fine, Lady Gaga-hatin' folks in here.  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on October 23, 2013, 07:04:20 AM
I dislike Led Zeppelin.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flangepart on October 23, 2013, 07:58:58 AM
Not sure whos grain this rubs, but...

Dinosaur news media. When they omit things you have some knowledge of, and refuse to admit they have a bias, I take what they say with a bag of salt.

And all politicians. Chuck 'em all out!


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Derf on October 24, 2013, 06:35:17 PM
I just watched "Eraserhead" for the first time today. I found it to be interminable and boring. Lynch seemed to be trying waaaaaaay too hard to just be strange. I love unusual movies, but I just can't get into Lynch movies.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: zelmo73 on October 24, 2013, 08:25:43 PM
Dune (1984) was cool.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on October 26, 2013, 04:20:04 PM
Dune (1984) was cool.

Actually, I agree. David Lynch has a style of filming that is uniquely his own. And I thought the knifefights between Kyle MacLachlan and Patrick Stewart and between Kyle MacLachlan and Sting were pretty cool, too. And after this one and the 2000 TV miniseries, there's a 3rd attempt upcoming to convert Herbert's book into film.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: HappyGilmore on October 26, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
I enjoyed Halloween, the remake by Rob Zombie. People disliked it for various reasons.

It's far from perfect, but as far as remakes go, it's enjoyable in a weird way. And I dug some of the casting choices: Malcolm MacDowell, Danny Trejo, Brad Dourif.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Rev. Powell on October 27, 2013, 01:12:04 PM
Dune (1984) was cool.

Actually, I agree. David Lynch has a style of filming that is uniquely his own. And I thought the knifefights between Kyle MacLachlan and Patrick Stewart and between Kyle MacLachlan and Sting were pretty cool, too. And after this one and the 2000 TV miniseries, there's a 3rd attempt upcoming to convert Herbert's book into film.

There's also a documentary out now about Alejandro Jodorowsky's aborted attempt to film the book in the 1970s.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: zelmo73 on October 27, 2013, 02:11:00 PM
Dune (1984) was cool.

Actually, I agree. David Lynch has a style of filming that is uniquely his own. And I thought the knifefights between Kyle MacLachlan and Patrick Stewart and between Kyle MacLachlan and Sting were pretty cool, too. And after this one and the 2000 TV miniseries, there's a 3rd attempt upcoming to convert Herbert's book into film.

There's also a documentary out now about Alejandro Jodorowsky's aborted attempt to film the book in the 1970s.


I read somewhere that George Lucas ripped off a lot of ideas from that pre-production of the aborted Dune (197?) movie and included them in his Star Wars (1977) film, which included the Tatooine desert dune setting, lightsabers instead of force shields during the knife fights, the Empire instead of House Harkonnen, Luke Skywalker and the Force instead of Muad'Dib and the Weirding Way, etc.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: spongekryst on February 27, 2014, 03:46:07 PM
The Dark Knight Rises was abysmal. It completely negates the message of the previous film and has the most asinine romantic plot element in the history of cinema.

"What if I told you Rachael chose Dent?"
"I would HATE YOOOOOU! ~sob~, get out of my life forever adoptive father and loyal ally!"
"Okay, but stop being Batman"

the rest of the crapfest happens, yadda yadda etc.

"Hello mysterious thief woman I've known for a few weeks tops, I love you and want to stop being Batman for you. In fact, you make me forget the last two women in my life, one just died, it looked stupid, and the other wasn't even into me and I threw out my most loyal friend because of it, but I love you so much, my back hurts"

 :thumbdown:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Chainsaw midget on February 27, 2014, 11:43:49 PM
The whole Nolan Batman trilogy was horrible.  

Let's look at the development of our hero.  

1st movie:  "I have no clue how to be Batman!  Somebody please tell me what to do!"

2nd Movie:  "Okay.  I'm kinda tired of being Batman now."

3rd movie:  "I quit being Batman...okay fine.  I'll be Batman one more time... then I'll quit being Batman AND quit being Bruce Wayne in order to run off with a felon who I barely know that tried to rob me blind earlier."

or if you prefer, "When I was a child, I dedicated my life to fighting crime to avenge my parents death, but it turns out that fighting crime is hard and I got hurt a bit so I quit."


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: ChaosTheory on March 04, 2014, 01:07:04 PM
Joss Whedon is a mediocre writer at best.

ARCHER is not funny.

Wedge heels are for dingbat hipsters who can't walk in real heels.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 04, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
Im with the previous posters about Nolan's Crapman. He fights crime for a year, disappears then returns to "die".   Idiocy...plain and simple.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Couchtr26 on March 05, 2014, 05:01:03 AM
I hate MMO video games with a passion.  I want to gouge my eyes out every time I hear about a new one. 

I enjoy cigars and pipes and feel more people should enjoy them in moderation.

I don't like many movies that receive a lot of critical acclaim.  I would like to but I find myself gravitating towards things that receive much less praise.  I watch a movie to have fun mostly and am not always interested in a deep message or symbolism. 

I hate people that don't have refined tastes.  I can't enjoy speaking to people that don't want to expand their tastes or to try something that is hearty and filling.  Case in point discussing bread with someone.  Hate white prefer dark richer grainy breads not the basic white bread. 

Maybe I should have put that into the Grind my Gears topic. 


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Trevor on March 05, 2014, 05:35:08 AM
ARCHER is not funny.

Finally someone who agrees with me: I saw one episode and that was too much.  :smile:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 05, 2014, 06:49:57 AM
I hate Disneyworld and liken it to hell on earth.   I may have mentioned that before.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: claws on March 05, 2014, 06:59:11 AM
Always worth mentioning again: I don't watch TV. I haven't sat down to watch TV in over ten years. I don't care about TV shows, talk shows, reality shows, the latest series and what not. And I absolutely despise TV commercials.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Flangepart on March 05, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
Always worth mentioning again: I don't watch TV. I haven't sat down to watch TV in over ten years. I don't care about TV shows, talk shows, reality shows, the latest series and what not. And I absolutely despise TV commercials.
BROTHER!  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Jack on March 05, 2014, 01:39:15 PM
Always worth mentioning again: I don't watch TV. I haven't sat down to watch TV in over ten years. I don't care about TV shows, talk shows, reality shows, the latest series and what not. And I absolutely despise TV commercials.
BROTHER!  :teddyr:

I was watching TV the other day and I just turned the damned thing off.  Between the derogatory "public service" commercials and the fact that I'm watching some show I've seen before, which is being over-dramatized by the narrator to the point where all of civilization will presumably fall into ruin if these dolts don't get this bearing on this motor replaced by the end of the day, but I'm not even watching it because I'm being told to sue for mesothelioma for the eight trillionth time...enough.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 15, 2014, 09:19:17 PM
Superman 3 is entertaining to me.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: JaseSF on March 15, 2014, 10:22:52 PM
I think I may in the minority generally preferring classic TV (think primarily stuff from the 60s, 70s & 80s) to most movies...


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: indianasmith on March 15, 2014, 11:03:46 PM
I think Julius Caesar was a hero, and Cato was a complete tool.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Javakoala on March 16, 2014, 09:55:11 AM
I think I'm the only person who kinda likes Baby Geniuses.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Bushma on March 16, 2014, 01:09:17 PM
I think I'm the only person who kinda likes Baby Geniuses.

I loved the first one. The second was a steaming pile.

I haven't found a Quentin Tarantino that I've enjoyed.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 16, 2014, 08:29:26 PM
I as an adult find Spongebob more funny than all network comedies on now combined.


Title: Re: Against the grain
Post by: Mr. DS on March 16, 2014, 08:30:20 PM
I simply don't get Adventure Time...not in the least.