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Title: Progressive music
Post by: Time_Signature on January 10, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
Does anybody here listen to any progressive music, like prog rock or prog metal? What do you like about it and why? Just curious since I am a prog fan myself.


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 10, 2010, 10:21:08 PM
I'm a big fan of older prog rock, especially King Crimson and old Pink Floyd.  There's more emphasis on muscianship, innovation/experimentation and composition.  King Crimson could write suites that lastest for 30 minutes, switched from a medieval sound to a jazz sound to a symphonic sound to a crushing rock sound, but always seemed to be a single connected piece.  It was quite remarkable and I don't know of any rock bands today which can manage the same kind of feat.

Today I like some of the post-rock/math rock bands, like Don Caballero, but I'm by no means an expert in the area.  No idea really what passes for prog rock these days.     


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Allhallowsday on January 11, 2010, 12:14:13 AM
I'm a big fan of older prog rock, especially King Crimson and old Pink Floyd.  There's more emphasis on muscianship, innovation/experimentation and composition.  King Crimson could write suites that lastest for 30 minutes, switched from a medieval sound to a jazz sound to a symphonic sound to a crushing rock sound, but always seemed to be a single connected piece.  It was quite remarkable and I don't know of any rock bands today which can manage the same kind of feat.

Today I like some of the post-rock/math rock bands, like Don Caballero, but I'm by no means an expert in the area.  No idea really what passes for prog rock these days.     
Think MARILLION.   :wink:

Actually, REV, you said it for me too, I still love KING CRIMSON and PINK FLOYD, but lost it for YES, never liked GABRIEL-era GENESIS (not a comment upon PETER GABRIEL's solo output) nor RENAISSANCE, and long over ELP or JETHRO TULL... but what qualifies as Prog?  It's at least debatable, and I love bands like LED ZEPPELIN, ROXY MUSIC, SUPERTRAMP... it seems to me all bands, for just a moment there, strove to be "progressive" (well, except maybe THE STOOGES or MC5...)


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Jack on January 11, 2010, 07:39:43 AM
I'm a big fan of prog rock - Pink Floyd, Rush, Asia, Yes, I'd probably toss Boston and Kansas in there as well.  Some really powerful melodies / hooks, excellent musicianship, complex song structures that made it interesting as well as emotional, and the lyrics actually meant something.  Plus a huge affection for my memories of the '70s and '80s.


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: lester1/2jr on January 11, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
I mainly know it via the german krautrock stuff like popul vuh, can and so forth.

the avant garde record store I go to here in Boston twisted village has a progressive section.


Robert Pollard from Guided By Voices, probably my all time favorite band, once noted that alot of good musical style begin with P: pop, punk, pycschedelic, prog


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 11, 2010, 11:53:51 AM
I'm a big fan of older prog rock, especially King Crimson and old Pink Floyd.  There's more emphasis on muscianship, innovation/experimentation and composition.  King Crimson could write suites that lastest for 30 minutes, switched from a medieval sound to a jazz sound to a symphonic sound to a crushing rock sound, but always seemed to be a single connected piece.  It was quite remarkable and I don't know of any rock bands today which can manage the same kind of feat.

Today I like some of the post-rock/math rock bands, like Don Caballero, but I'm by no means an expert in the area.  No idea really what passes for prog rock these days.     
Think MARILLION.   :wink:

Actually, REV, you said it for me too, I still love KING CRIMSON and PINK FLOYD, but lost it for YES, never liked GABRIEL-era GENESIS (not a comment upon PETER GABRIEL's solo output) nor RENAISSANCE, and long over ELP or JETHRO TULL... but what qualifies as Prog?  It's at least debatable, and I love bands like LED ZEPPELIN, ROXY MUSIC, SUPERTRAMP... it seems to me all bands, for just a moment there, strove to be "progressive" (well, except maybe THE STOOGES or MC5...)

I'm thinking MARILLION... but I'm coming up blank because I never heard of them. 

Never liked Yes, liked Gabriel's Genesis OK (not so much Collins'), ELP had their moments.  I actually still like Tull, though I admit they could lay it on a little thick (as a brick)...  Had my flirtations with Rush when I was a teenager, they are one I got over.


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: voltron on January 11, 2010, 12:01:34 PM
Goblin, Rush...personally I absolutey HATE Drean Theatre - all tecnique but pretentious bulls**t.


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 11, 2010, 01:30:40 PM
I love Genesis, Yes, Kansas, Watchtower, Fates Warning and Queensryche. It's not a style that I'm really a big fan of though. I find a lot of older prog rock to be very drawn out and self indulgent and for example, with Queensryche, I'd take their earlier 80s stuff over the later 90-00s records any day.

personally I absolutey HATE Drean Theatre - all tecnique but pretentious bulls**t.

I agree. I've never liked them, but then I've never liked Rush either even though I have a ton of respect for them.


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Zarcal-TB on January 11, 2010, 01:47:13 PM

I'm thinking MARILLION... but I'm coming up blank because I never heard of them. 

Just Look up the song Neverland on Youtube (busy at work now). Perferably the "marbles on the road version"

That is probably definitive of their prog sound however they do venture into power pop(rock) more these days than not.. A good(??) reputation is hard to live down.



Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 11, 2010, 01:50:03 PM
I'm thinking MARILLION... but I'm coming up blank because I never heard of them. 

Huh!  :question:


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Zarcal-TB on January 11, 2010, 02:06:40 PM
I was quoting the guy above.. but obviously my forum skill are not very good :)


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Psycho Circus on January 11, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
I was quoting the guy above.. but obviously my forum skill are not very good :)

Ah, all becomes clear.....my bad.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on January 11, 2010, 03:59:50 PM
Prog is a very delicate genre for me.  If it's done right, it's absolutely fantastic.  When it's not, it's boring and/or pretentious.  It's the same for me with power metal. 

You can imagine how anal I am about power-prog. 


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: AndyC on January 18, 2010, 09:00:56 AM
Prog is a very delicate genre for me.  If it's done right, it's absolutely fantastic.  When it's not, it's boring and/or pretentious.

I can appreciate that sentiment.

I like prog rock. Rush, Floyd, Zeppelin, Tull would be my favourites, by the strictest definition of the genre. I also like a few bands that might be progressive, depending on who you ask. Somebody mentioned Supertramp. I sometimes use "album rock" as a more all-encompassing term. That's not exactly what album rock means, but it's descriptive of the era and the style I would most closely associate with prog rock - those days when bands needed to experiment, and music was written and enjoyed by the album.


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: Allhallowsday on January 18, 2010, 11:21:11 PM
SUPERTRAMP Breakfast In America   
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/SUPERTRAMPbreakfastinamerica.jpg) 


Title: Re: Progressive music
Post by: AndyC on January 18, 2010, 11:24:49 PM
SUPERTRAMP Breakfast In America   
([url]http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff259/allhallowsday/SUPERTRAMPbreakfastinamerica.jpg[/url]) 


One of the all-time greatest album covers.