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I've always been interested in reading people's spiritual experiences, and on a site like this, this might be a successful thread! :bouncegiggle:

Are you experienced?  :buggedout:

-Jimmybob

Nothing out of the ordinary for me. I used to smoke weed and hash everyday for years, but I've really cut down over the past while. I gotta admit though, the first time I smoked it was incredible - i must have laughed for a good half hour standing outside my doorstep waiting for the buzz to wear off so my dad woudn't think I was up to something.  :wink:

I had a long reply typed out and changed my mind..TMI.. anyway, the answer is yes.

I experimented with illegal drugs as a college student: marijuana, LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, opiates, pretty much the full spectrum.  They didn't cause me any problems and I was able to quit them and become a (relatively) productive member of society.  

I can't honestly say that that was the case for everyone I hung out with at the time.  Some were not as lucky as I was.  I've seen addiction and people being dragged into the full-time drug lifestyle, destroying their potential or at least setting themselves back years while they cleaned up.

I wouldn't want to encourage anyone to take risks with their mind and body.  

Also, take it from someone who's experienced the whole gamut of intoxicants: alcohol is every bit as dangerous as illegal drugs.  Maybe even more so, because it's so easy to obtain.

Be careful out there.  At the very minimum understand what you are putting into your body and what it will do to you.  Taking any psychoactive drug is not something you should do lightly.  

I did acid once and had a long conversation with Satan on how to run Hell more efficently and how his biggest problem was he needed to hire a better public relations guy. That was my first and last acid trip.

Never tried any illegal drug.  Never been drunk either.  I enjoy life just fine without damaging my brain, and frankly,  i'm not even curious about either experience.  I can commune with God without the use of pharaceuticals, legal or otherwise.

OK....You asked, so here we go...

Pot:  I started smoking it when I was 19 and still smoke it occasionally to this day.  I'm not a huge pothead like I used to be.  My biggest pot smoking days were in the mid 90's when Grunge music and that whole lifestyle were popular.  During those days I was stoned every day. 
These days, I do enjoy smoking a joint or a fat bowl before a marathon gaming session on my Xbox 360 or in the car in the theater parking lot before I go in to see a movie.  That's kinda been a tradition of mine for years.
Marijuana should totally be legalized.

Hash:  Just smoked it for the first time a couple months ago with my friends in the van on the way to the Rob Zombie concert in Des Moines, Iowa.  How I never came to smoke it before is a mystery.  It just never happened.  I was pleasantly surprised!

Opium:  Tried opium a few times many years ago.  Never got into it because it gave me a headache every time I smoked it.  Then I found out that it can be physically addicting so I stopped immediately.  Loved the smell of it, though.  Burning opium smells like Nag Champa incense.

Acid:  I've done acid twice in my lifetime.  The first time was with a buddy of mine and we drove all over town.  I remember laughing the whole time and seeing purple haze.  No serious hallucinations that I remember.  We found a part of a street that had been half-blocked off due to road work.  We got out of the car, took the sawhorses with the flashing lights on them and completely blocked off the entire street. 
The second time was two sugar cube hits I bought from a girl I worked with at the time.  My buddy Chris and I took them and then went to a nightclub where we laughed uncontrollably at everyone who passed by us.
It's been at least ten years since I used LSD.

Ecstacy:  Only did ecstacy twice and it was when I was in Australia back in 2001.  The techno/dance scene was really big down there at the time and my friends, recognizing that I was a total fish out of water from Iowa, needed something to help me cut loose.  Before they gave it to me, they educated me on using ecstacy safely because there are right and wrong things you can do while on it.  It worked and I had an awesome time!  When you're on ecstacy, all you want to do is dance and touch and be touched by beautiful women...which I did a lot of.  I had many opportunities to do it after I returned to the states, but always turned it down.  Haven't done it since.

Cocaine:  I am seriously against white powder drugs in any form.  Especially cocaine because I've seen what it's done to my friends who got seriously hooked on it.  Matter of fact, I've never snorted anything up my nose...ever.  I don't know what it feels like to do that and I don't want to. 
I did smoke cocaine in a joint once, but I didn't know it was in there.  My friend rolled a fatty and after we smoked it, I felt really weird.  I told him that I felt weird and he said, "You like that?  I put a fat rail of coke in it!"  That p**sed me off big time.  I never would've smoked that joint had I known it contained cocaine.

Crack, Meth & Heroin  Never tried them.  Never will.  I've seen my friends' lives totally destroyed because of meth and crack.  Never had the desire to even go near heroin.


I don't have a problem with alcohol or pot.  Both can be very enjoyable when used responsibly in moderation.  Yes, I have experimented with other drugs, but they never took over my life.

Hmmmm.....

POT-I smoked it a lot in high school. Don't care for it now. Makes me paranoid. 
BOOZE-Yeh. Whiskey...but it's not much fun anymore...it's an addiction.
ACID-Back in the 80's I did acid at least once a week,for about a year straight. Explains a lot,huh?  :lookingup:
METH-Tried it.Don't like it.I actually like to sleep!
COKE-Tried it....too much money for too little buzz.
CRACK-Nope.
HERION-NEVER.
I don't know how...uh..."spiritual" any of these drugs have made me,but I DO know that I never got in any trouble...except when I was drunk.Of all the sh1t I've taken into my body,booze is the most damaging....mentally and physically.
('Cept that one time I did methadone...UGH!  :buggedout:)

 :teddyr: :teddyr: Hi RC ~ greetings from South Africa!

I'm a baby of the 60's and a child of the 70's and 80's: I've never smoked anything stronger than a Marlboro, no hard liquor except for a beer or two and recreational drugs are out for me. My mom is a proponent of marijuana usage for medical reasons but even at her age she would knock me on my a$$ if I tried pot.  :buggedout:

Hey,Trevor! It's like,4:52 in the morn' here (I'm an early riser...)!

You ain't missed out on anything. "Cept maybe an early grave.
And no,during my LSD phase,I never creepy crawled anyone.(Not sayin' I won't in the future...oooIIIIIIEEEOOooo....)

Me too ~ I always like a bit of 'me' time before I have to drag myself into the hell that is Pretoria Central.... :buggedout:


 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I smoked pot a couple of times at parties, if somebody was passing it around. Never went out of my way to do it, and I can honestly say I was too drunk to notice what effect it had. :teddyr:

Booze? There was a period when I'd be at the local bar every Friday and Saturday (and often Thursday) night, or at a dance or party or friend's house, knocking them back. Beer mostly, sometimes rye or vodka, occasionally scotch. But that was with my friends, at an age when we could do that. As everybody got settled down, married, bought a house or whatever, it got to be less frequent and not nearly as much fun. These days, I don't really drink at all. Maybe a couple at Christmas. I've had bottles of beer, left by houseguests, that sat in the back of the fridge for weeks. I was always strictly a social drinker, and actually, I've come to not even really like that intoxicated sensation. Give me a Pepsi and I'm happy.

Caffeine is my current drug of choice, but I try to restrict coffee to the morning and early afternoon. I might switch to decaf after that, if I still feel like sipping something hot.

A lot of alcohol no drugs.  I really don't do much of anything anymore.  I find with kids around you don't get to sleep much off. 

I smoked pot every day from about 1982 until 1995.  I prefer it to booze, no calories and I enjoy the buzz more.  I've always been able to listen to music or practice guitar for hours on end after a nice bowl.  My interest in bad movies can be attributed to pot.  My wife still picks up a little bit occasionally, like once a year.  

Tried coke - like RC says, too much money for too little buzz.  Mushrooms!  Tried those a couple of times.  Fun stuff.  Some friends and I walked down to a park - the blacktop on the road was shimmering.  The power lines above us had purple lines next to them.  We absolutely laughed our butts off for hours.

Now it's just a few beers on Friday and Saturday nights.  

Some people here will find it hard to believe, but I have never taken drugs in my life!

I smoked pot a few times, puked once, acted silly and got the munchies. I thought it was a waste of time and a stupid thing to do.
I'm no square but I don't need drugs to enhance my fun either. Sadly I know way too many people who need that stuff but, whatever floats your boat.

never did nor will

Same with me.  THough, Ive had to be a supervisor/designated driver for a few friends who decided to watch the the Dark Side of the Rainbow.  (Pink Floyd album pared with the Wizard of Oz).  There was about 8 guys that were all high, and me and one other guy (who was also sober)  were getting the TV and cd player to work with some sketchy instructions off of the Internet.  Not a good night. :buggedout:

I've never used illegal drugs of any variety. I enjoy the occasional glass of wine but beer or spirits don't make terribly much appeal to me either.

Most of the drugs I've taken were prescription pills obtained illegally.

Alcohol- Yes.  Only after I turned 21, and even at first, never liked it cause of my dad and two grandfathers being hardcore drinkers.  Lately I find myself turning to it alot, and it's relatively the only thing I will do, but eventually I wanna stop.

Pot.- Some relatives I lived with for a bit smoked it alot, and were the first ones I've smoked with.  Loved it.  Still do it, but don't really buy it much.  Mostly just at parties if it's around.

Ecstacy- bought a few pills back in September or so.  Got a deal on them.  Immediately liked it, but haven't bought more, mostly due to price.  Wasn't even at a bar/trance bar or anything. 

Percocet, Vicodin, Xanax, Oxycodone- Prescription pills.  I work in the food industry, and whatever people may want to think, a LOT of people in the industry handling your food are into some kinda drug.  Pills, coke, weed, etc are vastly used.  Cheap to get, and they get you really high, and get you in a state of mind to wanna sleep as well.  Which is needed, cause after a 12 hour shift, believe it or not, it's hard to come home and crash right away.  You need some kinda downer to pull you into a state of mind to wanna sleep.  Unfortunately, very easy to obtain, and relatively cheap.  Downsides: very, very addictive, which means you build a tolerance and have to buy more and more, meaning you start taking 10 a day or more.

Cocaine- Last summer, I was at a bar with some girls I work with.  We were talking about leaving to go smoke some marijuana I had just obtained, and were talking about experiences we had, and I mentioned I'd never done coke.  One girl had just left the bathroom, didn't hear the whole thing, and heard me say 'coke'.  She asked if I knew where to get it, as she was new to the area and was looking.  I told her I knew where to get it, but I couldn't at that moment due to the time, and I was pretty drunk to get there.  But told her I'd have it by the weekend, as a mutual friend was having a party.  I got her a bunch, and me and her did some.  We did some throughout the night and for a good 4 months we/I went through a pretty bad rough spot with the drug.  Fortunately, I suppose, I haven't touched it since August. 

Last time I took any illegal substance was Thanksgiving weekend.  At that point I decided I was done as I was getting into a hole that I didn't like, and deleted contacts out of my cell phone.  I wasn't so 'addicted' that I needed rehab, but I was getting to that point. 

Now I'm just fighting alcohol, mostly beer, as it's cheap and I like the taste.  But if I feel depressed, it's my best friend in the world.  And I hate that, as I feel it's a genetic disease passed to me by my father.

As far as "recreational" drugs go: another "never have, never will" here.  Aside from illegality, it does not appeal to me: I suppose I do not feel a need.  I will have a drink from time to time, usually beer or wine and mainly in social situations.  I have been drunk once and I did not like it at all, so that was that.

I drink occasionally -- and in sharp moderation.  One or two beers over the course of six hours, once every couple weeks, is generally plenty for me.  Once in a great while I have a wild vodka night.

I smoked pot once and experienced no effect whatsoever. 

The only other drug I've used or ever will likely use, recreationally-speaking, is caffeine, and by that I mean I drink more soda than I really should.  I'm not a "pharmaceuticals" kind of person -- I won't even take aspirin unless I'm really severely ill/in too much pain to stand up. 

I forgot to mention - I tried PCP once - I was waaaay drunk and high on pot at the time and I didn't really give a s**t, I just wanted to get seriously f**ked up because I was at a really low point of my life at the time. Not too long before I tried it I was in the middle of a nervous breakdown - I was having paranoid thoughts and was hearing voices - all the PCP did was push me over the edge. Wound up in the psyche ward for a few weeks. Not fun stuff, I tells ya. But I'm feeling much better now..... :wink:

I've never done drugs and I don't want to.  I've legally been prescribed and taken vicodin, prozac, and xanax, but I didn't enjoy being on them and couldn't wait to be taken off.

One of my roomates was one of those people that wasn't really addicted to drugs but did anything that was offered to her.  All her friends would always rave about how she never seemed to be affected by drugs.  Then one day she went to a party (I wasn't there - I never went to these parties) and took something and ended up freaking out and humping the carpet.  She told everyone that all she wanted was to be taken home to me because I was the new Mother Theresa.  I don't think she ever took that particular drug again, but it didn't stop her from taking anything else.  I was pretty certain before that time that I wasn't going to ever take drugs, but I doubly super surely don't want to take anything after that!

Oh, drugs.

I think taking mind-altering drugs can be an invaluable experience. Consciousness itself is such an unknown concept. If you look at the scientific literature, to this day nobody knows why we have it or how it comes about. It's amazing to me that you can ingest a tiny amount of a substance such as LSD and have your perception altered in ways you would never be prepared for or expect until you've tried it yourself. It's like taking the ropes course through consciousness.

On the flip side, you can try something like jimson weed, which does the same thing, but it is essentially poison and you can very easily drive yourself permanently crazy.

The problem with drugs is they can very, very easily become the be-all-end-all in your life, and that's no way to live. Plus, most of them are illegal. We can argue about the ethics of that (I won't), but as of this moment, being caught with a small amount of illicit drugs is a great way to become a convicted felon, and that will f**k up your life in ways you don't want to deal with.

I have one clear-cut piece of advice, do not use opiates in any form whatsoever unless you are recovering from major surgery. Becoming addicted to opiates is one of the most depressing life-scripts you could ever choose. DO NOT USE OPIATES.

Or huff gasoline, but that should go without saying.

Really?  I'm surprised!

For me, I never taken or used anything.  I have no interest or desire to try either.  I just don't see the point and I've seen the sideeffects of doing drugs on plenty of those police shows I watched.  Plus, I never been offered drugs before.  It probably has to do with the fact I'm been attending a Catholic school since 3rd grade and that I never really leave the house to go anywhere outside of my school or a store to buy books or DVDs.

You'd be surprised.  I used to date a girl who attended Catholic school until 11th grade; she was a heavy pot user, tried LSD, and snorted coke in the bathrooms at school until she had a severe nosebleed and got scared off the booger-sugar. 

I went to a Catholic School for many years.  Complete opposite experience here, sir.  6th grade we had several girls sneaking speed and coke into the school.  5th grade was drinking.  I didn't partake, really, but was at parties.  High school, well, even worse. 

My experiences with those things didn't happen til I was an adult. 

Wow, you guys went to some interesting schools.  What I meant by my schools I've been to is that I've never been offered drugs.  I didn't say if anyone was taking any (I suspect one student is a bit too hyperactive).

It's a good thing if you can avoid them.  It's a slippery slope.

legally, i have to take concerta, zolaf, and monodox

Never have, Probably never will.

I'm actually NOT surprised. Being as you are infatuated with 80's culture,and also the fact that you are a drinker,,,for some reason it makes sense, I HAVE done many drugs in the past....booze is my only (and a major) crutch. Yer a smart guy Circus...I hope you dont end up like me-a hopless drunk.

Hopeless drunk? No.
Great guy and good friend? Yes.

Damn RC, I really appreciate that. You aren't hopeless either. tThose aren't the kind, encouraging words of someone who is hopeless. No sir.

For some years I tried almost everything but coke and heroin (meth wasn't around, thank gawd)... I did mostly weed, and on special occaisions mushrooms or LSD.  As well as ciggys and alcohol. 
None of it really stuck...even alcohol or tobacco.  I do sometimes wish I could take a hallucenigen, just for the buzz.  But I probably never will again, and I don't mind much.
I too had lots of friends where it did stick, and some of em fell very very far and hard.   I can't really say they are good things, but they don't HAVE to ruin your life and health either. 
-Ed

Read an article in Rolling Stone Magazine about Meth and it's various effects on a person.  Story mentioned an incident, I believe in Indianapolis, where a guy was driving along the road with his kid, and had just done a massive amount of meth.  One thing lead to another, and he was so hopped up that he just cut his kids head off.   :buggedout:  After that, I decided to NEVER try meth if offered to me in any capacity.

Sadly I know a few people in the area who were addicted to prescription pills of varying degrees, and decided to turn to heroin because it gave them the same high, but was a hell of a lot cheaper to acquire than the pills.

I snorted salt and pepper when I was 11, wich had no effect at all except pain in my nose, so yeah, I quit doing that after a while. At the age of 13 I bought a pack of L&M because I wanted to try it, it took me a month to finish the pack, I just quit after that because I thought it cost too much and I had noone to do it with since everybody was really " good " that age.
When I was 14 me and my friends started smoking weed and cigarettes and we started drinking. I smoked weed about 3 times a week and smoked regular cigarettes all the time. In the weekends I got drunk a lot. I quit smoking cigarettes and weed at the age of 16. I kept drinking though, I'm now 17 and still drink, I'm wasted at least once a month, simply because it's fun and I can manage to behave relatively normal under the influence. I never go too far ( as in puking etc. )
I do waterpipe on occasion, not much to it.
As for other drugs, I'm not planning on doing any of them, I am curious after the effect of LSD though. But I'm just not going to start experimenting with other drugs because I don't want to end up a junkie.

Probably the most interesting thing is the "high" people get when extremely into religious ceremonies or in meditation/prayer/trance states cause similar effects as certain drugs.  Only, of course, there aren't any health risks.  I know that's not what you were getting at indy, just thought I'd mention it.  :D

I've done marijuana a couple times, but it didn't seem to do much for me.  I was told I didn't do it long enough, but the second time was like an hour non-stop.  Meh, whatever.

I've been very drunk before, a couple times.  It's fine if you don't go too far, but really sucks when you do.  Slightly tipsy seems like the best state to get to for alcohol, at least in my view.  Relaxing, can making hanging out with friends a little more fun sometimes.

I've also been massively racked by nicotine before, when I smoked a full size very strong cigar in like an hour, and held every puff in way too long.  First "good" hand-rolled cigar I did.  Awful experience, came close to vomiting.  For that reason, I'd encourage people to take it easy on any tobacco product.

That was what kept me from doing any drugs, even weed, for a long time.  Then eventually, I smoked weed fairly regularly (could get it for free, so it was easy.)  Then, for a long time, didn't do anything.

Over the past year and a half, went from weed to coke, Percocets, Xanax, Ecstacy, Morphine, and anything else I could get.  Lemme tell you something, it's very hard to get off them.  I'm a dish out some advice from the movie "Knocked Up": "No pills, no powders.  Weed is natural it grows in the ground." :teddyr:  Stick to that and you're good.

One of my cousins has a birthday today and it popped in my head how back in the 90s and in the last decade having his birthday on this particular day brought up lots of comments on "4-20". It came to me that I never hear people talking about 4-20 anymore. I guess that's run its course and become passe? Or maybe its just that all the stoners I used to know have grown up and graduated to antidepressants and daily aspirin therapy instead.

I've never done anything else then weed, and I now don't even smoke weed anymore (even though I can get it for free too  :wink:)  :thumbup: Last week I got offered LSD for free and I declined it  :cheers:

Okay, a little commentary on weed. I don't smoke it (anymore), but whether I agree with it's use or not, nobody can deny the role it has had in establishing the camp movement, and accompanying appreciation for bad cinema. When did the camp movement get really going? The 1970's of course. That was the first time we began to see movies being appreciated for their badness on any sort of scale. When did marijuana use come really come into it's own? Same decade. Marijuana became practically mainstream and came very close to legalization in 1972. Does anybody see a correlation here? I sure do. Getting high and appreciating bad movies is a match made in heaven. Personally, I think marijuana had a very prominent role in establishing this strange obsession we all share today.

I'm pure pro Marijuana and agree 100 % with what you said. But I'm 17, and I get too much sh!t from ignorant a$$holes if I'd smoke it.

I have no stigmas about marijuana and believe wholeheartedly it should be completely legal. I'm not ignorant, nor am I going to judge anybody. Did I smoke marijuana prior to the age of 17? Yes, I confess I did. Do I think it's a good idea? Ideologically, no, it should be just like alcohol, for those that have reached legal adulthood. But oh well, I can't stop anyone from trying weed or booze before 18 any more than anyone was able to stop me.

Anyway, marijuana is yet again coming into national attention and making steps toward legalization, and it's about time I say. I don't partake anymore, and that's my personal choice, it's currently illegal and I have a family I have to think about, can't be going to jail when I've got mouths to feed. Would I if it were legal? I don't know, it's been a long time. Maybe.

I think it's interesting the timing of all these initiatives to decriminalize marijuana or allow it for medicinal use. Could it have something to do with the economy? I believe it does. Marijuana has the potential of helping our struggling economy quite a bit, especially when you consider the amount of fertile farmland this country has. Were our economy thriving, I don't think you would see it happening. That's my theory. I really don't care how it gets done, I'll just be glad if it happens. There are too many positives about the legalization of marijuana that have been ignored for far too long.

Socio-political rant over.

Note: I didn't mean you're ignorant, Flick James.
More like my parents for example.

I didn't take it that way, vik. It was just part of my general commentary. Cheers. :cheers:

It's kinda sad in a way that some of the 'legal' drugs that can get prescribed: Vicodin, Percocet, Xanax, are some of the most addicting and widely abused drugs on the market.  Everyone points a finger at people that use weed, cocaine, heroin, etc.  Those pills are incredibly hard to get off of.  Ecstacy too.

That's me too.

I find the world weird enough as it is.
I try to hide the fact that I don't drink from people because they end up treating you like a freak. Which, I guess, I am.

I was at a Dinner and a Murder show last weekend, and one of the actors was teasing me, and when he was just about done, he looked at my drink and said "enjoy your Shirley Temple.." and got some light giggles, and then he asked what it really was, and I said that it IS a Shirley Temple .. then he said something along the lines of "life imitating art" and the entire room laughed hysterically  :question:.  Is it THAT funny?

Only if you've been drinking.  :wink:  There is a reason it is called 'impaired'.

Pills and alcohol are a bad combination.  Trust me.

While I've been guilty of using both, last night was a first: I fell asleep in a bar.  Good thing I had a couple good friends with me, they got me up and moving.  The pills by themselves give a buzz, but mixed with beer, increases the sensations ten-fold.  Wow.

Not that I'm condoning it.  I really wouldn't.  I know a lot of people who get violent just on alcohol and the pills make them ten times worse.  Me personally, I'm a quiet shy guy, so if I'm under the influence, I kinda just walk around talking to people.

But I NEVER get belligerent or angry.  Get more like, happy then.

One of the reasons I hate dinner theatre.

Dinner theatre is okay if you look at it as the B-movie version of live theatre. Look at it as the equivalent of Plan 9, throw a few drinks, and that can be a good time.

I took an aspirin once. I really did.

So I'll be honest.  Vicodin is fun.  I took some earlier.  Good grief.  As a general warning: if you've never taken pills to achieve a 'high', don't.  Sounds hypocritical, I know.  I say this because: 1 of them eventually isn't enough anymore, so you end up taking 2.  2-4, 4-6, etc.
I shouldn't talk.  I relapsed this past week, went on a massive bender.  Still kinda feeling "out of it" so to speak.
Better watch out.  That's stuff's rough. :wink:

Some news to report.  After being clean for a little bit of time, I've since relapsed.  Hard.  Guess it's easier to be under the influence.   :bluesad:

Just try again later.  Eventually you'll get it if you really want it.

Not unlike smoking, one of the hardest things in the world to quite. I smoked for 19 years, tried to quit several times, but finally did it cold turkey and with very little problem about 3.5 years ago. Haven't smoked since, and very happy about it. You'll quit when you're ready.

I was actually looking for info on the average number of times someone tried to quit smoking before they succeeded to show Happy he's not alone in failing in the past. 

After my day today, I'll take 2 of everything please.
-Ed

Is Peyote legal in America?

-Jimmybob

I don't even know where to begin.  I felt happier sober.  Even had quit drinking too.  I dunno what happened.  It's odd too, as I'll see that show Intervention and see where their lives took em, and think "I'm not like them."  But then I see where I am, and realize what I gotta do.  I don't know if I care anymore.  I'm a give it a second go-round, see what happens.

To my understanding, it's illegal.  Although, there's exemptions when it comes to Native Americans and their churches using them as part of the sacrament/medicine, in which it's usage is allowed.  But, if one were just go out, buy some in say, Illinois, for usage not affiliated with any church, you'd get jailed, much like any other drug.

That's basically correct.  Religious use by Native Americans is not illegal under federal law, but it is still illegal in 45 of 50 states under state law.  I believe it's perfectly legal on tribal lands.   

I think peyote is legal in Canada, but it doesn't grow there, so that's not much help!

And, if I'm not mistaken, Native's can mark "No" if asked when applying for the Armed Forces on the question about illegal drug usage.  Something like that. 

In the U.S.A. we are living in a time when capitalism is dead. We get the best of both worlds, socialism (lots of life-invasive government programs that rob our paychecks) AND fascism (goverment controlled by corporations and who protects it's interests less by innovation and more by military action). Anything that is organic and cannot be controlled by the government, which is being in turn controlled by corporations, including pharmaceutical ones, is sadly illegal.

I believe that's correct.  However, a private employer can refuse to employ them for failing a drug test. 

Peas are organic and legal.  :wink:

Okay, I'll karma you for that. DRUGS is what I meant.

A former smoker and drink on occasion, I never really felt any pull to try anything.  I became a smoker working in retail as it was a common stress relief.  Alcohol in low dosage is alright.  Hate being drunk. 

I don't mind the drunk part so much.  It's the day after, when you get the hangover, the dry heaves, the vomiting, the staying in bed all day cause the room keeps spinning, and by the time that's all over, it's 6PM and the day is already shot. :buggedout:

Oddly, I didn't try anything until I got a job in a restaurant, and between the long hours, dealing with co-workers, dealing with customers, etc., that I started anything.