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Title: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: KYGOTC on February 11, 2010, 06:02:55 PM
Poopy pants.

http://io9.com/375484/bill-and-teds-completely-unnecessary-remake


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: kakihara on February 11, 2010, 07:51:42 PM
station.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: WingedSerpent on February 11, 2010, 08:18:57 PM
I'm not surprised.

My favorite line from the article is The script is supposedly full of "hip" pop culture references for today's kids, like Bill and Ted worrying they're going to miss The Dark Knight
You just know that decision came from two image consultants who use the word "fly" and "dope-fresh" in front of studio execs who are all old white guys.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Chainsawmidget on February 12, 2010, 12:49:52 AM
Whoa.  This is totally a most heinous development and decidedly non excellent. 



And seriously, why did they feel the need to change the name of the band?  Wlyd Stallions sounds like a band that seriously wants to rock while Atomic Gorillas sounds like a novelty band.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: spongekryst on February 12, 2010, 03:06:07 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :hatred: :hatred: :hatred:


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Mr. DS on February 12, 2010, 11:26:14 AM
What The F*CK!!!
No...we can't let this happen...no, no no... :hatred:


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Nukie 2 on February 12, 2010, 12:45:17 PM
God, I bet they're gonna be Ed Harvey wearing douche-bags with blow outs!

AHHHH!

Hollywood should just not exist anymore!


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Jim H on February 12, 2010, 01:15:51 PM
Bill & Ted are such products of their time, that a remake is inherently a foolish idea.  Just doesn't work.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Flick James on February 12, 2010, 01:19:45 PM
Agreed. Hollywood is losing relevance every day. Personally I think Hollywood is doing it's "death rattle" before it starts going under as a provider of entertainment. I don't think filmmaking will go away, but I think we're soon on threshold of major changes, where the big movie companies will go the way of the dodo bird. If it goes down like I would hope, independent film companies may actually benefit from this. Bigtime A-list actors will be a thing of the past, and actors will have to go back to being actual artists, taking paycuts (but still making a very good living) and having to go to independent film companies to make movies. It probably won't go down like this, but I can dream, can't I? In all liklihood, everything will end up being owned by Viacom and EVERYTHING will go down the sh**hole.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: KYGOTC on February 12, 2010, 01:26:56 PM
Bill & Ted are such products of their time.

Good point. Bill and ted are a VERY 90s-ish type a thing. Making them modern and ..."hip", .....well, it's just going to seem very out of it's element.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 12, 2010, 02:59:20 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

 :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred:


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: joejoeherron on February 12, 2010, 04:17:19 PM
a remake of bill and ted?

well, that's just freakin great.

what's next i wonder


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Monster Jungle X-Ray on February 13, 2010, 04:15:05 AM
Sheesh, I was just watching Bogus Journey the other night on cable, and thought to myself man I sure hope they never try to remake these films...  :bluesad:



Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: vukxfiles on February 13, 2010, 05:50:30 AM
I hope they put some different historical figures than in the original. And why the hell are you all whining. If you don't like it, then don't watch it.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Pilgermann on February 13, 2010, 12:55:18 PM
I hope they put some different historical figures than in the original. And why the hell are you all whining. If you don't like it, then don't watch it.

They're whining because it's a bad idea. 

I will add to the whining:

THIS IS GOING TO SUCK  :hatred:


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: vukxfiles on February 13, 2010, 01:08:43 PM
How do you know it's bad when you haven't even seen the remake?


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: KYGOTC on February 13, 2010, 02:07:35 PM
How do you know it's bad when you haven't even seen the remake?



did you even READ the DESCRIPTION?

http://io9.com/375484/bill-and-teds-completely-unnecessary-remake


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 13, 2010, 02:52:10 PM
How do you know it's bad when you haven't even seen the remake?

We don't even need to see it. Remakes post 2000 = maximum suckage.

Plus, it doesn't need to be made like every other damn remake. Just run the original picture in the cinemas and it'll make money. They need to stop all the re-hashing for the retardarded, it's like beating a cheap hooker because you werent happy with your first stab at the happy flaps...


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 13, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
Yech... Horrible idea.  What next?  A Police Academy reboot with Ryan Renolds?


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: meQal on February 13, 2010, 03:48:36 PM
Yech... Horrible idea.  What next?  A Police Academy reboot with Ryan Renolds?
Please! Don't give Hollywood any more bad ideas!


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Psycho Circus on February 13, 2010, 03:54:31 PM
Yech... Horrible idea.  What next?  A Police Academy reboot with Ryan Renolds?
Please! Don't give Hollywood any more bad ideas!

There was a Police Academy remake planned, but it has luckily been scrapped.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: spongekryst on February 13, 2010, 10:43:53 PM
I hope they put some different historical figures than in the original. And why the hell are you all whining. If you don't like it, then don't watch it.

It is completely unnecessary and unoriginal, as is with 98% of all remakes. Most of us will not watch, because we are the intelligent mass of fans that embraced the original for it's creative splendour and most excellent degree of fun. I will boycott and protest the existence of this, the "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake, and all other poor excuses of so called "homages" or "retellings" of classics. F-you Hollywood and F-you Michael Bay.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on February 16, 2010, 05:33:21 AM
Yech... Horrible idea.  What next?  A Police Academy reboot with Ryan Renolds?
Please! Don't give Hollywood any more bad ideas!

There was a Police Academy remake planned, but it has luckily been scrapped.  :thumbup:

Well, at least someone in Hollywood had some shred of sense.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Jim H on February 16, 2010, 01:26:07 PM
I will say you can't really blame Hollywood for doing all these remakes.  They've proven time and again to be reliable money makers with a built-in audience, and they started out pretty hesitantly with the remakes/reboots like 10 years ago, testing the waters. 

When everyone went to go see them, they just pulled out all the stops.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: WingedSerpent on February 17, 2010, 10:02:47 AM
I was listening to a pod cast and somebody gave the best way of looking at remakes.
He said (paraphrasing here) Just look at them like a cover song. Just someone ekse's interpretation.  Nobody is comming to your house to take away your old copy and nobody is forcing you to see the remake.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: DarkWolfe on February 17, 2010, 09:22:40 PM
That's a terrible explanation. Want to know how I see (movie) remakes:  "What? You can't think of something original? You don't have an imagination? You have to waste millions of dollars and a whole lot of time to remake something that doesn't need remade? You can't take that money and time and make something unique and special, just like the movie you want to remake? Oh, I get it. You're just greedy and want to make a quick buck from people who really don't know any better. Grrr. Get out of my face!"

Remakes are made by lazy s.o.bs who can't think of anything original if their life depended upon it. Hell, I accept sequels more than a remake. This Bill & Ted remake is just another reason why Hollywood and their ilk are irrelevant and unoriginal. We might as well remake Casablanca, or Gone with the Wind, or E.T., or .... the list can go on. How would you feel if someone wanted to do a remake of the original Star Wars? (Hmm. Then again, Lucas might do that considering his track record. *sigh*)


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Jim H on February 18, 2010, 02:36:25 AM
That's a terrible explanation. Want to know how I see (movie) remakes:  "What? You can't think of something original? You don't have an imagination? You have to waste millions of dollars and a whole lot of time to remake something that doesn't need remade? You can't take that money and time and make something unique and special, just like the movie you want to remake? Oh, I get it. You're just greedy and want to make a quick buck from people who really don't know any better. Grrr. Get out of my face!"

Remakes are made by lazy s.o.bs who can't think of anything original if their life depended upon it. Hell, I accept sequels more than a remake. This Bill & Ted remake is just another reason why Hollywood and their ilk are irrelevant and unoriginal. We might as well remake Casablanca, or Gone with the Wind, or E.T., or .... the list can go on. How would you feel if someone wanted to do a remake of the original Star Wars? (Hmm. Then again, Lucas might do that considering his track record. *sigh*)

Barb Wire is a remake of Casablanca.  Only with Pam Anderson in the Bogey part.  Yeah, Hollywood figured Pam Anderson was acceptable for a part Humphrey Bogart played.  And that was 14 years ago.

But yes, Hollywood is a money making machine.  It always has been, really, it's just that creatively minded people once had greater sway in the system than they do right now.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Skull on February 18, 2010, 06:40:19 AM
That's a terrible explanation. Want to know how I see (movie) remakes:  "What? You can't think of something original? You don't have an imagination? You have to waste millions of dollars and a whole lot of time to remake something that doesn't need remade? You can't take that money and time and make something unique and special, just like the movie you want to remake? Oh, I get it. You're just greedy and want to make a quick buck from people who really don't know any better. Grrr. Get out of my face!"

Remakes are made by lazy s.o.bs who can't think of anything original if their life depended upon it. Hell, I accept sequels more than a remake. This Bill & Ted remake is just another reason why Hollywood and their ilk are irrelevant and unoriginal. We might as well remake Casablanca, or Gone with the Wind, or E.T., or .... the list can go on. How would you feel if someone wanted to do a remake of the original Star Wars? (Hmm. Then again, Lucas might do that considering his track record. *sigh*)

lol... dont let the remakes depress you. The internet opens the world of movies... right before your eyes. And if your still not liking it there is always the possibilty of you writing a script or making your own movie as well :)


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: skuts on February 18, 2010, 09:00:31 AM
...The internet opens the world of movies... right before your eyes. And if your still not liking it there is always the possibilty of you writing a script or making your own movie as well :)

With the software and hardware available today, anyone with time and talent can make a full-length, hollywood blockbuster on their desktop pc. (see: Sky Captain)
Perhaps we should run a do-it-yourself movie sequel contest.


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Skull on February 18, 2010, 10:20:05 AM
If you could master lighting, sound and cinematography you got a block buster...

And thats the major probem with many (to most) "video projects" they are lack lighting, sound and cinematography. A video camera isnt just good enough, so these filmmakers fail. Also if you do your homework (research on the internet) you'll find tricks on lighting, sound and cinematography that shouldnt cost you an arm and a leg.

I do agree with all the technology that we have today there shouldnt be any problem for anybody to dishing out a good low budget film.

:)



Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 18, 2010, 12:27:02 PM
If you could master lighting, sound and cinematography you got a block buster...

And thats the major probem with many (to most) "video projects" they are lack lighting, sound and cinematography. A video camera isnt just good enough, so these filmmakers fail. Also if you do your homework (research on the internet) you'll find tricks on lighting, sound and cinematography that shouldnt cost you an arm and a leg.

I do agree with all the technology that we have today there shouldnt be any problem for anybody to dishing out a good low budget film.

:)


They also lack decent acting, and in vast majority of cases, decent writing.  I've seen many microbudget films that are accomplished to spectacular visually, but lack basic storytelling ability and competent acting.  I've actually concluded the technical aspects are easier to master than the ability to tell an interesting story is.     


Title: Re: Bill & Ted's BOGUS remake
Post by: Jim H on February 18, 2010, 03:24:51 PM
If you could master lighting, sound and cinematography you got a block buster...

And thats the major probem with many (to most) "video projects" they are lack lighting, sound and cinematography. A video camera isnt just good enough, so these filmmakers fail. Also if you do your homework (research on the internet) you'll find tricks on lighting, sound and cinematography that shouldnt cost you an arm and a leg.

I do agree with all the technology that we have today there shouldnt be any problem for anybody to dishing out a good low budget film.

:)


They also lack decent acting, and in vast majority of cases, decent writing.  I've seen many microbudget films that are accomplished to spectacular visually, but lack basic storytelling ability and competent acting.  I've actually concluded the technical aspects are easier to master than the ability to tell an interesting story is.     

In my experience, it depends on which aspect of technical production you're talking about.  A couple of them are integral to storytelling, so it can be difficult to separate the two.  For example, probably everyone here has seen a film with such badly done audio that you often can't understand big chunks of it.  Same deal with very poor editing, which can completely obfuscate good storytelling. 

Of course, I think you CAN make a decent film (or rather, an entertaining one) even with bad writing and just very basic storytelling.  Sometimes that's the point.  In my own little film making endeavors, I think the worst film making sin is to make a dull and boring film.