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Title: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: InformationGeek on March 23, 2010, 01:31:45 PM
Well the Health Care Bill has passed for better or for worse (That's a whole another dicuss for another topic), but let's forget about that now.  With that out of the way, what do you think the President, Congress, and other people should focus on now?  I saw a poll at CNN and it got me thinking.  The options were: Jobs, Immigration, Social Security, National Security, and foreign policy.

I personally I think the next issue to tackle is jobs with the unemployeement and all of that.  I think Obama should focus on that next and work from there.

So, what do you think the next issue should be?  Just say the issue and give a reason why you think it is important.  No reason to rant, just be honest and give a humble opinion, but don't go overboard.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 23, 2010, 01:49:14 PM
I think he should focus on the national debt.  I think I've had enough foreign policy for the next 100 years or so.  We are already in the middle of two wars or towards the end more hopefully.  CHina owns us so there is no way anyone is going to do anything with Iran. 

he needs to throw out the status quo in regards to spending and reduce the size of the budget, not just slow the growth of spending.  bottomline: we are too underwater


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: The Burgomaster on March 23, 2010, 04:08:38 PM
Getting WILLARD, PUPPET ON A CHAIN, THE DOBERMAN GANG, and THE BLOOD EATERS released on DVD.



Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: El Misfit on March 23, 2010, 05:12:03 PM
Gay Marriage.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: 3mnkids on March 23, 2010, 06:55:19 PM
I keep thinking back to the days of his campaign and him saving repeatedly.. Im going to go through the budget line by line and eliminate waste...Im still waiting, Mr. President.   :teddyr:   I understand he has been busy but I would like to see it happen.

He can put the money saved towards heath care    :tongueout:

Repealing DADT comes in as very close second.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: WingedSerpent on March 23, 2010, 09:06:41 PM
Unemployment.  And if you ask me,, this should have been priority over health care. 


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: indianasmith on March 23, 2010, 11:18:54 PM
You want to end unemployment?  Make business prosper, pure and simple.  the government does NOT create jobs and never has, with the sole exception of actual federal employees.  But this president does not understand capitalism, since every single one of his political mentors was a radical from the 60's.

Cut taxes, keep the good regulations, get rid of the stupid ones, and let business do its thing!


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Trevor on March 24, 2010, 12:36:44 AM
He should come to South Africa and I would like to meet him, have a nice chat, one African to another.  :smile:


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Nukie 2 on March 24, 2010, 09:47:56 AM
You want to end unemployment?  Make business prosper, pure and simple.  the government does NOT create jobs and never has, with the sole exception of actual federal employees.  But this president does not understand capitalism, since every single one of his political mentors was a radical from the 60's.

Cut taxes, keep the good regulations, get rid of the stupid ones, and let business do its thing!

I don't recall him ever saying that we need a new WPA type thing. I think that was inferred on him, just like we inferred health care was going to be nationalized-- now it's just going to suck for rich and poor. Anyways having the government produce commodities just doesn't make sense. That could possibly kill jobs in the private sector of production (just moving jobs and you still have high unemployment). Two, government will get it's money no matter what-- if it's products are crap; it get's tax payer money so it'll still produce.


Another thing people are frightened about China owning just a fraction of US debt; it's just a fraction. Most is held by US corporations, and rich US citizens. Really I say the best thing is that government buys off debts across the board, though not all debts, as long as they don't resort to more inflationary measures. Once done, then consumer spending will increase. Sure banks won't want to loan for awhile, but once they see how they can profit and then they'll loan, then businesses can invest in capital. In long run though the debts will still be there and have to be payed off through taxes, which means programs may have to be slashed. So it's really just deferring the debt payment, and freezing it.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 24, 2010, 12:28:20 PM
yeah but politically there is a difference between china owning our debt and americans owning.  and the banks borrowing money at 0 to buy debt and get the 3 percent or whatever is a travesty.



Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 24, 2010, 12:31:55 PM
The President can't do anything about jobs, except try to take credit when the economy eventually rebounds on its own.  Let him focus on foreign policy, which is actually in his job description.   


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Skull on March 24, 2010, 01:27:05 PM
Getting WILLARD, PUPPET ON A CHAIN, THE DOBERMAN GANG, and THE BLOOD EATERS released on DVD.



Yes! Yes! YES!




Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: RCMerchant on March 24, 2010, 05:35:21 PM
Legalizing pot. FOR EVERYONE. I don't smoke pot-but I drink hard liquer. Which is worse. And it's legal.
 Legalize it-regulate it. Tax it. Mo' money for everyone.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 25, 2010, 10:11:44 AM
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Let him focus on foreign policy, which is actually in his job description.  

where? he's the president of America, not other countries


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Skull on March 25, 2010, 10:42:01 AM
Legalizing pot. FOR EVERYONE. I don't smoke pot-but I drink hard liquer. Which is worse. And it's legal.
 Legalize it-regulate it. Tax it. Mo' money for everyone.

Why, would he do that...

Have you seen Demolition Man (1993)?

Once Government assumes the responsibility to clean our faces (New Healthcare Law) government must make sure we are at perfect health... Legalizing any recreational drugs is proactive just like allowing us to eat food's with transfats, sugar and flour... although it may sounds extreame we are talking about a government that wrote a few thousand page bill and voted on it without reading it...

Yep, if they actually sat down and read the bill they would noticed that CHILDREN WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS WILL NOT BE COVERED AUTOMATIC AS OBAMA HAS SAID.

(Dammit... another 6 Americans has just died without free healthcare)


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 25, 2010, 12:28:35 PM
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Let him focus on foreign policy, which is actually in his job description.  

where? he's the president of America, not other countries

US Constitution, Article 2, Section 2: "He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors..."

Section 3: "... he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers..."


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 25, 2010, 01:39:22 PM
It says they have the power you are correct, but it doesn't say they should excercise it willy nilly.  They are supposed to provide for the general welfare, that is have policies that benefit the whole of the population not just specific groups but that's what happens.  The country of georgia has a lobby on capitol hill.  They want to bring Georgia into NATO. So if russia and georgia go to war the United States will have to go to war with russia!!  and Georgia is run by a maniac who shuts down tv stations and imprisons his rivals.  It has nothing to do with defending the american people from foreign threats or the genreal welfare. 

war is a racket-gen smedley butler


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on March 25, 2010, 05:27:27 PM
Probably still the concern of most Americans, the economy. Though, what this government or any government can do is open to question. One thing that has been suggested, and I don't know if it's been done yet or not, is to provide tax incentives to businesses who hire the unemployed. Those that have been unemployed for over a certain length of time. Of course, any such tax incentives will just add to the deficit, which will have to be made up at some later time.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: anonymous on March 26, 2010, 01:31:27 PM
You want to end unemployment?  Make business prosper, pure and simple.  the government does NOT create jobs and never has, with the sole exception of actual federal employees.  But this president does not understand capitalism, since every single one of his political mentors was a radical from the 60's.

Cut taxes, keep the good regulations, get rid of the stupid ones, and let business do its thing!

Yeah the Great Depression called -it wants to let business do its thang.

Also, we just had several years of tremendous tax cuts for the rich, yet they didn't create a single job in the last 8 years. What's up with that?


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 26, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
I am as freee market as they come but it is sort of ironic that alot of the tax cuts went to making the housing bubble even bigger than it would have been.


The tax cuts weren't the problem though.  the problem was the low interest rates.  That's what created the bubble. it's what always creates the bubbles, too much inflation of the money supply by central banks


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Nukie 2 on March 26, 2010, 02:21:52 PM
It's a freaking myriad problems, not just tax-cuts.
The crux of all problems is growing productivity, yet declining real wages, which enticed Americans to borrow from credit cards, or against housing equity.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: lester1/2jr on March 26, 2010, 05:16:05 PM
If I had one wish it would be to bang kim kardashian.  but if I had another loftier more political wish it would be to return to the gold standard.  that way if the government needs money it has to raise taxes or cut something.  Wiht the floating currency, they can just inflate their way out of problems and into bigger problems.  gold went from 300 dollars an ounce to 1000 under BUSH and up to 1200 under Obama.  taxes were cut in those years.  They got that money from borrowing and inflating.

They go on about taxes.  Taxes are basically irrelevent when you have the printing presses running 24-7


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: the ghoul on March 27, 2010, 07:52:18 AM
Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?

I wont even waste my time addressing that question. Whatever our government decides to focus on, you can be sure it is going to be disastrous for the vast majority of Americans in the long run.

The bailouts have not been done for the benefit of the people in general.  The politicians have done this to save their own asses.  If the economy were allowed to completely collapse, the government would also collapse.

That would have probably been the best thing that could have happened for this country in the long run.  This government has become so corrupt and self-serving that I think the only way out of the downward spiral we are in would be to wipe it out and start all over from scratch.

All those "tea partiers" are so naive to fall for that BS mentality that all we have to do is elect the other party and everything is going to be wonderful.  The 2 parties are both taking us down the same road.  One only has to compare the current and previous administrations to see that.


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: Nukie 2 on March 27, 2010, 09:37:59 AM
And what road is that?


Title: Re: What Should the President Focus on Now?
Post by: the ghoul on March 27, 2010, 01:44:16 PM
And what road is that?

corporate greed

giving lip service to human rights and worker's rights when they are really helping to promote the destruction and denial of those rights

weakness as a nation

financial ruin

and, ultimately perhaps losing our sovereignty altogether.  

We are being sold out.  If you don't see it, just don't worry, be happy.
 :bouncegiggle: