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Please come and sign my petition against remakes and "re-imaginings". Even if you think it's stupid, hey, it's a bit of fun. Who knows what may come of this? Maybe I'll get ten signatures, maybe I'll get a million?

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?MMAR&1 (http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?MMAR&1)

Join the MMAR (Movie Maniacs Against Remakes) today!  :teddyr:

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There's also a link from my blog and some banners too that Vik made for me!  :thumbup:

http://flashmetalcircus.blogspot.com/2010/04/join-mmar.html (http://flashmetalcircus.blogspot.com/2010/04/join-mmar.html)

Why can't old movies just be re-released into theatres?  Wouldn't that cost less and make more money?

Exactly! Thanks for signing!  :thumbup:

Signed  :bouncegiggle:

I signed.  I feel like such an activist now! 

SIGNED! Seriously, why bother remaking something that's already been done. TIS IS CHEAP!

Thanks for signing guys!  :thumbup:

Just signed. It's about damn time someone made a petition against pointless remakes.

I signed and asked if I could sign multiple times. I recently submitted a movie pitch about a serial killer who kills directors of remakes. I think you know where I stand.

Cheers guys! We have momentum!  :bouncegiggle:

Signed!  Great idea Circus. :thumbup:  I hope lots and lots of people sign it.  And, maybe, it might get seen by some execs...

(Also, great banners, Vik)

Remakes have a long, successful history though - that should be noted. Years ago, they did actually make some decent remakes - WIZARD OF OZ, THE MALTESE FALCON, THE THING, THE FLY, INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS - all remakes. DR. JEKYLL AND MR. HYDE gets adapted over and over as does FRANKENSTEIN and DRACULA. So it doesn't always fail although these days one does wonder given the output of the last 10-12 years in terms of remakes, the vast majority of which pale compare to the original but then again that's not new either - KING KONG (1976), GODZILLA (1984) anyone? I'd be surprised to see remakes end, I just wish Hollywood would choose a little more wisely what they try to remake...stuff like THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL and PLANET OF THE APES should have been left alone. I did sign your petition though on the basis of remake output from the last decade or so being so dreadfully dismal and disappointing.

I'm on board  :thumbup:

I'll sign if you change the "the anals of cinema history" in the petition to "the annals of cinema history."   :wink:  Then again, considering we're dealing with Hollywood, maybe you did mean anals...  :bouncegiggle:

Sorry guys, I can't sign that.  I can't really sign these that ban people from making movies.  Now if we are talking about signing a petition to ban Uwe Boll from ever making movies again, that is a completely different story.

The main reason I won't sign that is because I am too nice of invidiual and am willing to give any movie a shot, despite it be a reimagining, sequel, remake, parody, such and such.  Also, I refuse to sign a petition that could stop possibly a good movie from being made.

OK.  Not ALL remakes/re-imaginings are bad, and I don’t think a petition is going to stop them even if a billion people signed, but I’d like to see them stop being made so frivolously.  Maybe it could draw attention to a large audience of people that are turned off by remakes and are craving to see movies that have a little more creativity and imagination of their own.  I’d rather go see a rip-off than a remake or even a remake with a new title.  I kind of feel like the remakes are trying to obliterate the originals.  That makes me sad  :bluesad:.

Hmm this is a tough one. After watching CLash of the Titans this weekend, well its tough not sighing this. I can understand that not all remakes are bad BUTT nothing recent has been good at all. None that I can think of anyways its 4a.m. so I'm slowly loosing my mind.

The petition is all in good fun and it's a principle thing. If you want to go see remakes, hey, it's all about free will. This has nothing to do with whether or not there is an occasionally well-done remake, it's that the vast majority are bad, complete insults to our intelligence and to the originals. Paying our money to see them just allows Hollywood to keep up it's practice of botching classics on a regular basis because they can't come up with anything else. It's the same lazy work ethic that has led to most of our television shows being based on shows that came from the UK or Japan. America is no longer on the cutting edge. We've lost our innovation and edge. I possess free will, and my free will tells me not to support remakes. That's not to say that I haven't seen one or two when they've come to cable, but I certainly don't spend my dollars going to see this tripe.

I have nothing against those films and I do agree they are all pretty much superior to the originals, I'm talking squarely about the slew of movies that have been made in the last decade. If you look at the number of remakes over the each decade, the increase in the last ten years in particular, is massive. Look at Michael Bay's CV for example; just a production or directorial credit on remake after remake.....and they all suck!


...And yes Rev, I kind of put "anals" of purpose.  :teddyr:

Done!

Agreed. I think it should be reasonably implied that we are talking about the crap remakes of the last ten to fifteen years. Hollywood, in combining any remake they can think of in lieu of doing anything new with soulless and pointless CGI, is killing the art of moviemaking.

Signed. I'm part of the solution now!  :smile: Really though, I agree with Paquita about re-releasing old movies into theatres. Makes more sense than remakes and gives people a chance to catch some classic movies on the big screen as they were intended to be seen. For instance, I hear that Mother's Day is gonna be re-released in theatres next month, which is an awesome idea. Hope they show it in my area!

Okay, Circus, I signed. When do I get my 2 dollars?

Signed, despite the anals.  :wink:

I signed after reading all of the posts.  I agree with Jase that there are many wonderful sequels and remakes... okay maybe not many but at least a few.   :smile:  However, thare are so many horrible remakes and absurd derivations that are jaw-droppingly uninspired, stupid, wasteful... okay, I see why we need a petition.

Signed and will pass the link around. I doubt this will do any good, but maybe... just maybe someone will take notice and be like "Hey.... maybe we ARE being unoriginal a-holes and should stop raping and pillaging beloved films from years past..."

Ideally the best way to fight the flood of remakes is to put the people who pay to see them MULTIPLE TIMES into concentration camps. No torture, rape, murder, or genocide implied here by the way. If you take the idiots that make these films profitable out of the equation, Hollywood would have to rethink its strategy. ("Jeez.... remakes are tanking lately.... I guess we'll actually have to come up with GOOD and somewhat original ideas again!")

A just reason to not sign InfoGeek. But truthfully, these online petitions rarely do any good. Even if someone in Hollywood took notice, I doubt they'd derail their insidious plans to continue remaking films.

And if you still have some doubts about signing.... THEY ARE REMAKING THE TOXIC F*@KING AVENGER INTO A PG-13 FAMILY FRIENDLY FILM!  :hatred:

 :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred: :hatred:  http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

It's just now beginning to sink in.  That is the worst f**king idea for a movie ever.  What next?  A remake of Cemetery Man that's a PG-13 romantic comedy starring Hugh Grant and Kirsten Dunst?  No, don't stop, Hollywood.  You haven't f**ked up Q, the Winged Serpent; Zombi 2, Deep Red, or From Beyond yet. 

I signed but unfortunately, signing a petition isn't going to stop it. Hollywood has run out of ideas and instead of finding bright new talent they rely on the hacks. They slap these movies together with actors that have seen better days and are just phoning it in, big budgets but no.. whats the word? soul? heart?.. all eye candy and no substance. ugh.

I saw the commercial last night for the Death at a funeral remake and just cringed.  :lookingup:

The only remake since 2000 I remember I enjoyed is the Dawn of the Dead remake.

It's true that this petition will likely do nothing, but it was a fun statement to make anyway. The reality is, many people here, who supposedly hate all the hack remakes still go and see them. Clash of the Titans made over 60 million it's first weekend. Good luck.

That was done pretty well by its original producers...  :wink: :thumbup:

I think the worst thing is that they're not creating anymore awesome bad movies, not that I know of anyway

What about BIRDEMIC?  IndianaSmith always has recent bad movies to recommend, too.

Forgot about BIRDEMIC, but I haven't seen it. I'll ask IndianaSmith  :drink: :teddyr:

BIRDEMIC is itself a remake of Hitchcock's THE BIRDS, which just goes to show not all remakes are inherently evil.

Cool,  i didn't know it was a remake. The Birds was awesome  :thumbup:

 :bouncegiggle:

I still love that movie.  It's my poor, deformed baby. 

Ben Gallegos is me, I am awesome  :drink:

Signed but it was a boring sig.  Sorry.

 :hatred: remakes.

JOHN

Don't worry about any comments, a signature is awesome enough, okay!  :thumbup:

Also, I agree with the statement of re-doing awful films that sucked and had no budget. Remake something really crap and do a better job, rather than playing it safe with proven source material. Nobody has bettered any classic films in recent times at all...FACT. If you disagree, then take your f**king Hollywood tinted glasses off and get a f**king soul. Just the fact that someone has gone into a meeting and said: "well, s**t I can't possibly dream up a better movie than the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, 'cause I'm a talentless piece of s**t, let's just remake it. Dumb people will come and see it surely!" Where are the new horror characters in particular, the movie icons of this era?? Nowhere! That's where! They're all in Michael Bay's f**king tape collection ready to be recycled! This has become I very important issue with me now, and I cannot thank everyone that has contributed enough!!!

You need to come out of your shell and say what you feel, circus.  :bouncegiggle:

Anyway, your thoughts are shared by me, but there's nothing that can be done to quell the Hollywood hack machine. With all the recent threads on the subject, I'm convinced of that. This is a site where the average member is above the status quo who mindlessly go to the local multiplex and pay for their movie ticket to see whatever Hollywood cranks out for them like a bunch of hamsters hitting a feeder bar to get a pellet. Even so, there are plenty here who have decided to buy their ticket to Clash of the Titans in support of the machine, knowing full well that it's going to suck. So if even a large number of badmovies.org members are doing it, what does that say about the likelihood that Hollywood will stop doing something that they know works?

I still enjoyed signing the petition. It's a statement I'm happy to make.

Precisely.  Anyone remember the Walmart episode of South Park?  "If you want Walmart to go away, stop shopping there."  I think this is the best we can do, aside from the petition.  Even if the petition doesn't work, at least we have made our disdain clear.  Let's hope that more people can vocalize theirs as well.  But I think the biggest thing you can do is stop buying movie tickets to these things. 

Okay, really?

http://www.joblo.com/cliffhanger-remake

A Cliffhanger remake? 

Cliffhanger ... That's not a movie that should have a remake at all ..

A few more in the pipeline are:

An American Werewolf In London, Arthur, Barbarella, The Blob (again!), The Birds, Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Child’s Play, Conan, The Dambusters, Deathwish, Dracula, Dune, Excalibur, Fantastic 4 (again!), Flash Gordon, Footloose, Frankenstein, Hellraiser, Highlander, Last Starfighter, Near Dark, Night Of The Living Dead, Oldboy (with Will Smith!), Piranha, Porky's, Red Dawn, Robocop, Short Circuit, The Thing, The Three Musketeers, True Grit, The Warriors, When Worlds Collide, Working Girl...

 :bluesad:
 

It shouldn't have even had a "make."  :wink:

Of the proposed PAPRIKA live action remake, director Wolfgang Petersen said he hopes to make this version "more accessible for a wide audience… more of a film for a mainstream audience."

Next up: an ERASERHEAD romantic comedy where Henry and Mary make up and decide to raise the baby together.

I've heard the Oldboy remake has either been canned, or has been put on a far backburner.  Plus, I don't think The Three Musketeers or Dracula really count, being based on classic novels and all.  Classic novels are constantly readapted into movies, even way back in the black and white era.

The only reason this does not bother me is that Brad Dourif will be doing the voice and "Seed of Chucky" turned that series into a joke (a stupidly funny joke at times, but still a far cry from what was originally intended).

ROBOCOP!!!!!!

 :hatred: :hatred: :hatred:

THEY WILL BURN FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To quote Malcolm Graves from "Ghoulies", I say this to Hollywood:

YOU LITTLE WORMS!! YOU SHALL BURN FOR THIS!!!

Yup, you got that right. 

....
O...Oldboy....with...with Will Smith....
I'm having an epileptic seizure here....
And Highlander?
And The thing?

_{What happened to the world?}

Barbarella D:

Not just Brad, but the original creator/director and much of the original crew.  Or so I've read, but that was a year ago.  It may have changed by now. 

I hate remakes as much as all you guys do but I can't sign this for two reasons: one, film makers have the right to make the movies they want even if it s**ts on the fans of the originals, and two this will honestly do nothing to stop the remakes, because we all end up going to see the damn things anyways.
If people really want to stop remakes from happening, we need to stop going to see them.

Really?!

Since my name was invoked . . . .


THE COWBOY KILLER is an AWESOMELY bad movie. Seriously, the best bad movie in ages.  STAN HELSING was more mainstream and had a bigger budget, but was still pretty fun.

and . . .  can I voice a lone, contrary opinion on this thread?

I rather liked Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN.

(Don't hurt me!)

Now supposedly they're just making another sequel called "Revenge of Chucky" and supposedly the plot is him on his way to kill his family and on that quest he encounters all of his old enemies (Andy, Andy's foster sister, the kids from Bride of Chucky, the works).

You see, that would be cooler already.

Add Frankenstein and Dune to that list of pseudo-remakes becuase their classic novels.  You could also add Conan, because its based off of a series of books.  The Thing was also a novel prior to the movie versions.

Yeah but their not remaking a novel are they? The film adaptations themselves, that are already burned into movie fans memories. Films that were good, did well and made their money. Novels and comics are easier to adapt as you already have a decent story, plotlines, character development all their to exploit. Which is why computer game conversions always dissapoint.

I have always viewed remaking a movie being the same as a musician coverage someone else's song.

If you can't bring something new to the table or rework it to where your stamp is on the newer version (for better or worse), than there is absolutely no reason to remake it.

Examples of remakes that I liked were John Carpenter's remake of The Thing, the 2004 remake of Dawn of the Dead.....actually that's all I can think of at the moment that I thought worked well.

Come to think of it, I actually liked Tim Burton's remake of Planet of the Apes up until that god awful ending.

John Carpenter's The Thing is one of those exceptions, and a damn fine film. I'm not against remakes across the board, but what the original poster is talking about is a pretty readily identifiable "syndrome" present in big Hollywood productions in the last 10 years or so. Hollywood is very reluctant to take any risks right now. The dollar and the economy being what it is, and mainstream American still streaming into theatres for some mindless entertainment to take their minds off things, that's exactly what Hollywood is giving them. They know they can slap together a CGI/action-driven flick that contains little more than just that: CGI and action, and people will buy it. This is exactly why you don't see any mention of the crap economy in film. If you were looking at our society from a time machine in the past, with nothing else to judge how society on other than by watching it's movies, you would have no idea that our economy is deeply troubled.

Sorry I got so side-tracked. The great Hollywood hack machine cannot be stopped except through the consumer dollar. It's been said that the petition was pointless and wouldn't do anything. That's probably true, but it was fun to sign anyway, and the point was duly noted.

Now I HAVE to write a horror story that's set right smack in the middle of the economic crash. The main character could have just been evicted from their apartment. Then they end up living in a tent (which actually did happen around where I live...those tent cities cause some real problems because while they were illegal these were people with jobs who just couldn't afford to pay their rent anymore) and, I don't know, a werewolf or something starts taking advantage of what it sees as easy prey... Hang on, I'm gonna write this down; it may be ridiculous now, but give me some time to develop the idea and I might come up with something decent.