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Title: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: wickednick on April 19, 2010, 06:03:55 AM
Anyone watch the the season premiere of Dr. Who on BBC this weekend, I really enjoyed it. The new guy I was kinda skeptical about, but he turned out to be very enjoyable to watch (I still can't get over the fact he looks like the kid from Mask though).
I like the new companion Amy Pond, she's got a feisty side to her I really like.
The story was good, weird and British like usual, but hey thats why I like these shows. The aliens were great although I still have no idea what the Doctor was trying to do wish the computer virus.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Newt on April 19, 2010, 08:01:51 AM
I watched it twice, with different family members. It was far better than I expected it to be.  I'll confess I was all set to dislike the new Doctor, and he won me over despite my resistance.  I see hints of previous incarnations in him (which makes a sort of sense, I suppose), but I have a feeling he will settle into the role a bit in subsequent eps and make his own mark.



Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Trevor on April 19, 2010, 09:27:46 AM
Tom Baker is still the best Doctor for me and *sigh* Louise Jameson still the best Companion.  :smile:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on April 20, 2010, 07:06:06 PM

The story was good, weird and British like usual, but hey thats why I like these shows. The aliens were great although I still have no idea what the Doctor was trying to do wish the computer virus.

The virus turns everything into a zero which the aliens would have picked up on and would have realised that their prisoner was still on Earth. It was a message basically.


Oh, I love the new Daleks !!!!


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on April 24, 2010, 08:02:37 AM
Yup. I'm very happy it's airing in Canada on Space this time. CBC ran the other seasons months after they aired in Britain.

We were pretty wary of the new Doctor. Both my wife and I liked Christopher Eccleston, and we liked David Tennant even more. But Matt Smith was an instant hit with us. He has just the right mix of likeability, eccentricity and arrogance.

I have noticed they seem to be trying to tie this season even more into the continuity of the original series. The new logo, the new intro, even the new theme arrangement all hearken back to earlier years, but with a more contemporary feel. And the images of all the past doctors near the end. That's what I love about Doctor Who - the actors change, but each one is still the Doctor after he leaves.

The new companion is also very nice, although I wish I could have seen more of her in the police uniform. :teddyr: A pretty Scottish redhead who seems like she can handle herself in a scrape - I like that.

Of course, we're now getting to the point where there are enough current Doctors to do a two-part "Three Doctors" type episode. Heck, with all of the wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff going on, they could come up with an excuse to throw in Tom Baker or any of the other surviving first-run Doctors. It was already done for that 15-minute special with Tennant and Davison.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Newt on May 03, 2010, 06:59:56 AM
I don't like the 'new' Daleks.  They look softer - inflated and less threatening.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on May 03, 2010, 09:07:46 AM
I don't like the 'new' Daleks.  They look softer - inflated and less threatening.

Yeah, I like that they've finally resurrected the real Dalek empire, but I'm not sure about the new look. The 2005 Daleks we've seen so far were, for me, the best looking yet. They had the classic Dalek look, but more metallic and more detailed. They actually looked harder than the original Daleks. The new ones remind me of household appliances or compact cars - all smooth and rounded and shiny and colourful. I actually liked the way the Daleks looked painted flat khaki green.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on May 03, 2010, 10:26:34 AM
I don't like the 'new' Daleks.  They look softer - inflated and less threatening.

Yeah, I like that they've finally resurrected the real Dalek empire, but I'm not sure about the new look. The 2005 Daleks we've seen so far were, for me, the best looking yet. They had the classic Dalek look, but more metallic and more detailed. They actually looked harder than the original Daleks. The new ones remind me of household appliances or compact cars - all smooth and rounded and shiny and colourful. I actually liked the way the Daleks looked painted flat khaki green.

I have nothing wrong with the colour. I love the yellow Dalek. I like that they're bigger and they have colour to show rank. Maybe the colours are a little too bold for some people, I can understand that. Perhaps they should be toned down a little.



Oh, man, I love that yellow Dalek soooooooo much ! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Newt on May 03, 2010, 11:19:07 AM
The colours are not a big deal; as AndyC said it's the rounded look that does not sit quite right.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on May 03, 2010, 12:43:02 PM
Over protective parents are already complaining:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1271051/Is-Doctor-Who-getting-scary-kids-Children-sofa-vampires-strike.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1271051/Is-Doctor-Who-getting-scary-kids-Children-sofa-vampires-strike.html)

 :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on May 03, 2010, 02:23:27 PM
The colours are not a big deal; as AndyC said it's the rounded look that does not sit quite right.

The colours actually reminded me of the Peter Cushing movies, which wasn't so bad. It is mainly the shape I don't like. The heads seem too small and the bodies too big and round. They almost look inflated.

I have liked Matt Smith so far. He settled right into the role and became The Doctor with no trouble at all as far as I'm concerned. Nice combination of whimsy and seriousness, eccentric curiosity and righteous rage. I thought "The Beast Below" really gave him a chance to show that. For me, his two best scenes in that episode were informing Amy that they were standing on "a great big tongue!" and after he's figured out what's going on - "Nobody human has anything to say to me today!"


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: wickednick on May 04, 2010, 06:34:29 AM
So far Dr.Who has been turning out pretty good. I didn't care much for Victory of the Daleks. It was just average and the whole part with the fighter planes flying around space was laughable.
But the two new episodes about the Weeping Angels are really good. So far the Angels are my favorite bad guys. Their such a original, actually scary enemy.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Newt on May 04, 2010, 07:37:22 AM
Over protective parents are already complaining:

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1271051/Is-Doctor-Who-getting-scary-kids-Children-sofa-vampires-strike.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1271051/Is-Doctor-Who-getting-scary-kids-Children-sofa-vampires-strike.html[/url])

 :bouncegiggle:


Oh get real, people! Kids love a good scare; chills are good fun  - especially when you know you are safe.  Part of the charm of Dr Who has always been that you absolutely know The Doctor will protect you and save the day!  :lookingup:

My kids (granted, the youngest is 12 and was a Dalek for two Hallowe'ens running) - OK the whole family - have taken to quoting the Daleks (growly mechanical voice and all) saying, "May I offer you a cup of TEA?".  Deliciously incongruous!

"The next word is a scary word..." LOL!  And Sir Winston asking the android if he is a man...pure gold.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on May 04, 2010, 07:56:20 AM
And the scares in Doctor Who have always been good scares. There has never been anything cheap or excessive, just good scary monsters and dangerous situations. That's important for an adventure series. I can remember getting scared by episodes like The Brain of Morbius, Image of the Fendahl and Terror of the Zygons as a kid, which is why they are among my favourite classic episodes today.

And wasn't that always Doctor Who's reputation - the show kids watch from behind the couch?

The interesting thing is that I was just having a talk with my daughter the other night. She's finding that although she likes movies, they all have scary people in them. We're talking Captain Hook scary, nothing too serious. I had to explain to her that the good guys need a bad guy to defeat, and when the bad guy is is a little bit scary, it's all the better when the good guys win. This is why most kids' movies, and most movies in general, have a villain of some sort. The story wouldn't be very exciting without one. She seemed to understand.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Newt on May 04, 2010, 08:34:38 AM
Very good point, Andy.

The whole 'scary adversary' scenario has been an essential part of storytelling since before we were scribbling on the cave walls.

I was always struck by the confidence of the Companions.  It almost came off as cockiness, but seemed to be rooted in a supreme assurance that they and the Doctor could cope with anything the universe threw at them.  One would think, in these days of constant harping on bolstering self-esteem, that that attitude would be appreciated as a model.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on May 04, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
True, most of the companions have handled themselves very well. Peri was kind of whiny, but she made up for it in other ways. :teddyr:

Amy Pond is already shaping up to be one of the best, provided she sticks around for a few seasons.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on May 31, 2010, 10:10:48 AM

I love how serious people get.  :teddyr:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ZzbjwAv98


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on May 31, 2010, 11:11:09 AM
I agree with pretty much everything he said. I've had to explain it to my wife a couple of times that, although you become fond of the characters, Doctor Who fans have to be prepared to see them leave. I don't know that anybody, with the exception of Tom Baker, stayed with the show as a regular for more than three or four seasons.

And as far as respecting the classic show, the new Doctor Who does that better than any update or reboot I've seen. Battlestar Galactica was almost unrecognizable. The first thing Abrams did with Star Trek was have time travelers wipe the previous shows out of existence (although that bloated franchise had no room left for creativity).

Doctor Who, on the other hand, has preserved all of the original continuity. It all happened. All the stories, the characters, the actors themselves are a part of the new show, which has carried on in virtually the same format. If that's not unprecedented, it's at least extremely rare. And I know there is not a single show on TV in which eleven different actors have played the same character, and each is still acknowledged as holding the role. Tom Baker, Peter Davison, any of those guys are still the Doctor, in spite of everything. Any surviving actor who has played the Doctor can play him at any time. That is absolutely unique.

I love the old show, but there can be no new episodes of that, and it changed a lot during its run, so there's no point in making comparisons. Judge the current show on its own merits.

But the most die-hard fans of anything appear to live in a perpetual state of denial.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on May 31, 2010, 04:49:02 PM
I just found this...  :teddyr:
There might be a tiny bit of swearing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXsr74uLZwM


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on May 31, 2010, 07:17:05 PM
(http://www.fallingstar.net/host/tardis/RTD-Unwritten01.jpg)
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 :teddyr: :bouncegiggle: :teddyr: :bouncegiggle: :teddyr: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on June 02, 2010, 08:16:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5v2JA4Vj_s&playnext_from=TL&videos=n0e6kFisPlg&feature=grec_index


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on June 12, 2010, 08:01:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KoQK7PLECw

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I love Doctor Who fans !!!!
I love 'em !!!!!! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on June 12, 2010, 10:17:01 PM
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KoQK7PLECw[/url]

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:

I love Doctor Who fans !!!!
I love 'em !!!!!! :teddyr:


Beautiful. :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: HappyGilmore on November 17, 2010, 10:32:52 PM
For anyone interested, current Doctor, Matt Smith was on The Late Late Show last night.  This is his appearance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm_0-zqp52I&feature=related
Apparently there was a musical number they used to be the open of the show, but CBS wouldn't allow it as they felt that the BBC would sue them.  So they had to change it.

As for Doctor Who, I just started watching it when Smith took over.  Had heard of it, but never actually watched it.  But it's on before I go to work, so I try to catch it.  I have yet to see every episode in full of this particular season, but seen it's on dvd, so I may go get it next week.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: bill smith on November 28, 2010, 06:52:17 PM
I loved the bronze daleks. I hate the new mighty morphin power daleks. How long until they form the extreminatazoid?

I really liked victory of the daleks, though. The bit with the old and new daleks reminded me of what's happening with the american right.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: JaseSF on December 05, 2010, 09:50:10 PM
Honestly the last season of Doctor Who seemed dumbed down to me, like they changed everything about him and the show to make it more widely appealing to today's youth culture (me, I found myself losing interest). Still I'm surprised they haven't created the Cyber-Daleks yet...


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on December 06, 2010, 08:02:59 AM
The last series was my favourite one.  :smile:

I thought the David Tennant ones were the dumbed down episodes.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on December 06, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
The Doctor has changed so much since the 60s that I don't really worry too much about changes from one season to the next, or one Doctor to the next. The show has gone through periods of leaning toward historical and educational emphasis, fantasy, social commentary, action-adventure, gothic horror, space opera, hard SF, heavy philosophy and drama, and just plain silliness. Really, Doctor Who has always contained some of all these elements, but the focus shifts.

I mean, we've seen Jon Pertwee based on Earth and engaging in car chases and hand-to-hand combat, as soldiers shoot it out with aliens. The last season of Pertwee got pretty heavily into environmentalism. Tom Baker dealt with the 70s SF equivalent of demons, mummies and Frankenstein monsters, and later did stories rooted heavily in physics, philosophy and hard SF. The Peter Davison and Colin Baker years gave us a few companions notable for big tits and short shorts, and so on.

If I were looking for the most dumbed-down Doctor Who episodes, I'd probably look to the Colin Baker or McCoy years. I mean, at one point, they had a monster made of giant Licorice Allsorts.

I like Matt Smith. He's got the right mix of goofy and clever, he can go from silly and mocking to dead serious, and he's believable as a guy who looks about 25 but is really closer to 1,000. I liked Tennant too, but I think his Doctor started to get a little too heavy toward the end.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on December 06, 2010, 12:12:15 PM
The Peter Davison and Colin Baker years gave us a few companions notable for big tits and short shorts, and so on.

If I were looking for the most dumbed-down Doctor Who episodes, I'd probably look to the Colin Baker or McCoy years. I mean, at one point, they had a monster made of giant Licorice Allsorts.

I bet those were the days, weren't they, Andy ?

 :teddyr:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on December 06, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
The Peter Davison and Colin Baker years gave us a few companions notable for big tits and short shorts, and so on.

If I were looking for the most dumbed-down Doctor Who episodes, I'd probably look to the Colin Baker or McCoy years. I mean, at one point, they had a monster made of giant Licorice Allsorts.


I bet those were the days, weren't they, Andy ?

 :teddyr:


Indeed. They just don't make companions like Peri anymore.
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5124/5238805268_585cde6dc8_z.jpg)
The show promoted good hand-eye coordination back then. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on January 11, 2011, 10:05:58 PM

I just had to post these !  :teddyr:

(http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/movie-poster-mash-up/doctor-who/18.jpg)
(http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/movie-poster-mash-up/doctor-who/26.jpg)
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Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Barack Clinton on January 17, 2011, 02:36:30 PM
I kind of liked "Victory of the daleks" as it had the daleks actually using a fairly clever subterfuge instead of just shooting everything. Had the usual flaw of "Why didn't they  kill the doctor when they could have just shot him?"

It reminded me of modern american politics, I wonder if the writers were making a subtle commentary on modern america's political situation. The bronze daleks, which I liked, represented the old guard republican conservatives and the new daleks represented the teabaggers. "You are inferior! Purge the unclean! Exterminate! Exterminate!"

Kind of like how the teabaggers purged, or tried to purge, the moderate republicans by running teabagger candidates against any republican who was an iota short of raving lunatic in terms of fanaticism.

As to the new daleks, hate 'em. I agree, too soft and inflatable looking. I wonder if that was deliberate, making it possible to have inflatable daleks for crowd scenes or something. With modern CGI I doubt it would be needed though.

I have head that the new daleks can swap out their arms and weapons though, the old ones would travel along that track along the body to the hatch on the back where they'd go into a rack and a new weapon/arm would travel along the track to the forward box.

If that were shown the new daleks might at least be justified in having upgraded performance. The color thing sucks, it's like "Mighty morphin' power daleks go! Form exterminatazoid!" Yuk!

I think the cast is a bit thin, though. Seriously. The new doctor, amy and whatisname all look so skinny they need to stand in the same spot twice to cast a shadow.

I liked the last ep with tennant. I wonder if the master survived and if so how he could change after realizing what had been done to him and why he'd been driven to what he'd been. I wonder if he might even undergo a serious change of some sort. Hell, him telling the doctor to get out of the way and saving him from rassilon was a major change for him.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on January 17, 2011, 03:10:14 PM
Saw the 2010 Christmas special. Kind of a neat twist on A Christmas Carol, which suits the Doctor perfectly, being a compulsive meddler with access to the past and future. I rather liked the unexpected way the doctor handled the scary future.

Looking forward to the upcoming season. Seems like the location shooting is much more ambitious than Doctor Who has had up to now. The preview at the end of the Christmas episode shows some scenes shot in the American southwest, which is presumably what Matt Smith was doing in the US when he was on Craig Ferguson's show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpe1Ywz8azM


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Newt on January 18, 2011, 01:59:27 AM
We're all looking forward to the new season as well.

Since the last ep with The Master was mentioned...we were re-watching I, Claudius the other night and got to the point where Caligula (John Hurt) is complaining of being plagued by the sound of hoofbeats in his head.  The similarity to The Master in that episode was interesting.  (Though Caligula did not manage to gain the same sympathy.)


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 18, 2011, 11:07:06 AM
Saw the 2010 Christmas special. Kind of a neat twist on A Christmas Carol, which suits the Doctor perfectly, being a compulsive meddler with access to the past and future. I rather liked the unexpected way the doctor handled the scary future.

Looking forward to the upcoming season. Seems like the location shooting is much more ambitious than Doctor Who has had up to now. The preview at the end of the Christmas episode shows some scenes shot in the American southwest, which is presumably what Matt Smith was doing in the US when he was on Craig Ferguson's show.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpe1Ywz8azM[/url]

From what I remember of the interview with Craig Ferguson, he mentioned shooting scenes in Arizona, New Mexico and I think Las Vegas.  Then I think he mentioned they visited but didn't shoot in Los Angelas, San Francisco and New York.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on January 18, 2011, 11:25:40 AM
I don't recall very much location shooting in the entire history of the show, and usually just simple places they could probably drive to. The original series was done very much in the style of a play, done mainly on indoor sets, with occasional outdoor scenes in nondescript British locales. The new show has done a bit more, but actually going overseas and shooting desert vistas and whatnot is a first for Doctor Who. I wonder if it's an attempt to make the show more attractive to American broadcasters.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on January 18, 2011, 12:59:04 PM
I don't recall very much location shooting in the entire history of the show, and usually just simple places they could probably drive to. The original series was done very much in the style of a play, done mainly on indoor sets, with occasional outdoor scenes in nondescript British locales. The new show has done a bit more, but actually going overseas and shooting desert vistas and whatnot is a first for Doctor Who. I wonder if it's an attempt to make the show more attractive to American broadcasters.

The next series is being partly funded by BBC America so that might be why. I think it just be the opening two parter thats in the US. And they're trying to make the best out of it they can.

Who did shoot in Dubai for Planet of the Dead and it looked great.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on January 27, 2011, 07:36:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tLBDkpM870


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on February 04, 2011, 09:14:06 AM
(http://static.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/ic/bil/624x351//doctorwho/news/bulletins/bulletin_110110_02b.jpg)


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on April 14, 2011, 11:20:19 AM
Just noting that the new season starts later this month, and I'm happy that for the first time, it will be airing everywhere at the same time. Used to have to wait a couple of months for it to air in Canada.

And there is another teaser out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_l0iqkoTY
Very creepy.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: WilliamWeird1313 on April 21, 2011, 04:46:57 AM

I'm still reeeeeally not happy about the Matt Smith version of The Doctor (although I think Amy Pond makes for a great companion, both because of her acting, her characterization, and, well, her aesthetic value... mrowr), but I'm nevertheless hopelessly addicted to the show. I'm still unsure about how I think the show is going since it changed hands (and faces). I feel like the previous season was still very strong, despite my initial reservations, but there were also many things I disliked (I particularly felt that the weeping angels two-parter just completely ruined the weeping angels as a villain forever, overcomplicating a concept that was chillingly simple as well as revealing far too much about an idea that

was more interesting when it was mysterious). It was probably about even (pushed more in the direction of  :thumbup: thanks to the wonderful Christmas Carol-inspired holiday special), so I'm waiting for this new season to really help me make an ultimate decision about whether or not I like the direction the series is going in.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on April 29, 2011, 07:18:12 AM
(http://c0013744.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_5c7fc41)

 :teddyr:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Trevor on April 29, 2011, 09:08:50 AM
I just had to post these !  :teddyr:
([url]http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/movie-poster-mash-up/doctor-who/23.jpg[/url])


*Trevor melts*: Ahhhhh, Leela!!!  :teddyr: :smile: :teddyr:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on April 30, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
What an episode (s6:e2) !

I'm surprised the internet hasn't just melted because of all the nerds now talking about !


 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on May 06, 2011, 07:32:05 PM
"What's a time head?" :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: WilliamWeird1313 on May 09, 2011, 12:39:38 AM
What an episode (s6:e2) !

I'm surprised the internet hasn't just melted because of all the nerds now talking about !


 :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

My BRAIN has been melting. I thought it was great, especially the final moment. I've always liked when shows really heavily developed season-long story arcs, and this season of Doctor Who looks to be doing that much more so than the previous ones of the modern series.



Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on May 11, 2011, 11:03:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8-uwMFSb10


Spoilers...  :lookingup: :wink:

I do love the pub analogy.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on June 13, 2011, 08:48:57 AM
It would appear the Mondas Cybermen are back. The ones at the beginning of the last episode didn't have the Cybus logo, and they're apparently back to being a spacefaring empire. I don't know. Maybe those were Cybus Cybermen of the future, or maybe the originals weren't extinct after all, perhaps as a result of rebooting the universe. Anyway, I hope to see more of them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I-efBSAUiY&feature=related


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: WilliamWeird1313 on June 19, 2011, 09:32:49 PM
It would appear the Mondas Cybermen are back. The ones at the beginning of the last episode didn't have the Cybus logo, and they're apparently back to being a spacefaring empire. I don't know. Maybe those were Cybus Cybermen of the future, or maybe the originals weren't extinct after all, perhaps as a result of rebooting the universe. Anyway, I hope to see more of them.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I-efBSAUiY&feature=related[/url]


As would I. I feel kind of disappointed in how little the Cybermen have been used. I mean, with the exception of the story where the parallel universe Cybers were introduced they haven't really received a whole lot of quality playtime. Sure, they appeared in the finale for season 2, but they definitely played second fiddle to the Daleks, and their subsequent appearances have, to me at least, kind of played them off as second-stringers, whereas I think they're right up there on the A-list as Whoniverse villains. Moffat has given them even less play, relegating to this little cameo (which I hope is a hint of more Cybery good things to come). and the brief (but EXTREMELY memorable) appearance of that one damaged, falling apart, uber-creepy Cyber that attacks Amy in the finale of last season.

On the subject of the mid-season finale, what did ya'll think?


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on August 27, 2011, 07:14:01 AM
Finally here. Looks pretty good so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Zw1QDpg9g


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: 66Crush on August 29, 2011, 12:11:57 AM
I liked it, although the stuff about River being Amy's friend growing up before regenerating, seemed a bit too cluttered. I felt it almost jumped the shark. I wished there had been more stuff about The Doctor battling Hitler. I feel a bit mislead. But, the story itself was really good and I liked how it was resolved in the end. Even with those two minor complaints, I'd still give it four and a half stars.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on August 29, 2011, 10:00:58 AM
(SPOILERS)

Still, there's something really funny about throwing in Hitler as a minor comic-relief character who gets locked in a closet for most of the episode.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Doggett on September 10, 2011, 07:32:27 PM
I missed the older Amy.

I wish they kept her and not the young one. That would've been intresting.


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: Newt on September 11, 2011, 07:27:40 AM
I missed the older Amy.

I wish they kept her and not the young one. That would've been intresting.


'Older Amy' was my kind of gal.  It'd be cool if they could let us see hints of her in the younger Amy from time to time.  She certainly makes it clear where River got some of her abilities!


Title: Re: Dr. Who premiere
Post by: AndyC on September 12, 2011, 10:27:58 AM
A simple yet very powerful episode.

Considering Rory sat around for a couple of Millennia waiting for Amy to get out of the Pandorica, I thought "Older Amy" was a little bit petty complaining about 36 years. Mind you, she spent the whole time fighting off helpful robots that were trying to kill her, and she'd gone a little bit crazy. And she did make the right choice in the end.

Having Amy's older self along for a couple of episodes would have made for some interesting adventures though, especially teamed up with River as a middle-aged mother-daughter wrecking crew. I could also imagine Older Amy being a little bit like Leela - quick to violence and always having to be reined in by the Doctor when she overreacts.

But, the whole point of the episode was making the tough choice of sacrificing one Amy to save another. And there seems to be an ongoing theme of this Doctor being something of a liar when he deems it necessary, not to mention his guilt over the price his companions have paid for traveling with him. Maybe the paradox was too much for the TARDIS to bear, but maybe it was also that the Doctor couldn't bear the existence of this violent, lonely, tormented Amy created by his own irresponsibility.