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Too bad Circus isn't here to read that.  Or maybe he has...

I still haven't seen it, but I'll probably give it a try eventually.  


NOTE: If you ever see me post a very embarrassing misspelling like "hear" in place of "here," do remind me.   :buggedout:

I blame him too.

Also he said: about the second Transformers film !
What heart ?!?!?!

I blame Shia LaBeouf for just about everything that's wrong with the world.

I actually didn't even make it to the point where he arrives.  I was done after the refrigerator incident actually.  

I never thought an "Indiana Jones" movie could be so forgetable. Indy 4 - was.

The only reason I saw Indy 4 was to see Karen Allen again, nothing else.

I think his drama teachers dropped the ball when they gave him a passing grade.

Fine.  He blames himself.  I don't.  While I can say I didn't think Indy 4 was good as the others, I still enjoyed watching it and all the action.  Personally, I didn't even really mind him in the film.

I think taking the blame for his fair share in it is fine.  "I let a fine cast down" - fine.  Taking all the responsibility for the failure of the film seems a bit...I dunno...self-important?

I am not sure that any young actor could have pulled it off: done better, definitely, but who could 'be' Indiana Jones' son to our complete satisfaction?  A large portion of the audience would have certain expectations of the offspring of that union (the child of Indiana Jones and Marion Ravenwood should be a bit more...everything)...and whether or not they imagined themselves in that role, it is a pretty tall order for an actor to live up to.  :wink:  My reaction was along the lines of, "That's him?  Ew.  No way! What a disappointment!"   So I suppose my initial impression was that he was mis-cast and I was given no reason to change my mind.

Odd, I thought that was the best part of the movie. It kind of went downhill from there.

For me, this movie had two things going for it - it had a 1950s nuclear test and it's the only time I can recall finding Cate Blanchett attractive. Other than that, kind of disappointing.

The Rifftrax for Indy 4 is pretty funny though. Every time it gets bogged down in excessive dialogue or a lame action scene, One of them starts doing the theme "Da da da daaaaa, da da daaaa..." and just kind of trails off in mock confusion. "Sorry, I expected something to happen there."


I had not thought of that. It does imply that he can make or break a movie, now that you mention it. That is sort of boastful in a roundabout way.

I don't think Sleepy LaBeef was all that bad in Indy 4. I think he was miscast, I don't think he brought anything to the role, but he also had nothing to work with. The writers and the director are the ones who let everybody down. The best chef in the world can't make a feast out of a few crappy ingredients. The fact that LaBoeuf is the acting equivalent of a fry cook doesn't really affect the outcome all that much. Regardless of what the actor's job is, Spielberg is the one who "dropped the ball on the legacy people loved and cherished."

And the same goes for Transformers. That franchise was f**ked up before Beefy got anywhere near it. I do have to give him credit for even admitting these movies were crappy, never mind taking responsibility for it. There are plenty of people in the business who would do neither. The fact that he even understands there was something wrong with these movies actually gives me hope for the guy.

Maybe it's a PR gimmick to win over the fans by taking our side. If so, it's pretty clever. But it sounds sincere.

Yeah, I've noticed a lot of hate for him that goes beyond the rational.  I don't get it.  He's not great, but I also don't think he's terrible.  He's just kind of bland, and he himself admits he basically got lucky.  So, you've got a mediocre actor who got a lucky break, who is generally humble about this and admits his failings, and people hate him for it. 

I don't really get it.

Kurt Russel is mediocre. But he has charm.  :teddyr:

Snoozy LaBore has none !
Its like a big black hole comes on screen whenever a scene features him.

Well its cool that he came out and admitted that Indy 4 sucked, but honestly the biggest problem with the movie was George Lucas. George Lucas wrote the movie and directed it so its mainly his fault it sucked so bad. I remember reading that Speilberg hated the idea of aliens in the film, but Lucas eventually talked him into it. Even Ford resisted the idea at first,but eventually went along with it.
The problem with Lucas is that he likes to makes big budget flashy films for kids (I think his kids mostly) and leaves out everything the people who grew up watching these films loved.

Neither do I.  I just don't really understand the hate he gets.  Maybe people just hate the movies, notice he is in them, and puts the blame on him since it is easier.

That is probably true. He's in stuff like Indy 4 and Transformers, disappointing movies that messed heavily with franchises and fan expectations. All flash and no substance. Strike one.

He's a competent actor, but he's no leading man, and yet he gets starring roles. Strike two.

There is really nothing distinctive or memorable about him, no unique style, no screen presence, no charisma. Not even an unusual face, just a funny name. Strike three.

None of this is his fault, but I can see how he might become a lightning rod for people's frustration with the film industry in general. As it is, he's making sh**loads of money in the short term trying to be an action hero, but if it's long-term respectability he wants, maybe he should concentrate more on landing meatier roles in smaller films. Something that involves more acting and less reacting to things that will be added in later.

I'd suggest he try to upgrade his image, but I kind of like that he does look like an average guy and not some freakishly handsome android. Too many of those in the business.

Actually, La Boeuf might be pretty good in those sort of "everyman" roles. The kind of thing Jack Lemmon made a career out of. I suppose Sam Witwicky is played as an everyman, but he's as much a placeholder as a character. Again, this assumes LaBeef has the skill to pull off a role that demands something of him.