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Title: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: wickednick on June 12, 2010, 07:36:06 PM
I've often given my two cents around the internet and have found that there seems to be un-written rules on how you should write your posts. The one I get yelled at for the most is double spacing paragraphs and sentences. People say this makes posts easier to read, personally I don't see it. The way I look at it is books and most printed material with the exception of children's books keep their paragraphs single spaced and I have no problem reading those, as I have no problem reading anything single spaced on the internet.
I know its easy to hit the return button twice and make everyone happy, but I find it pointless to do so and in really long posts just makes them overly huge.And I find that double spacing a paragraph does not make a post any easier to read, because there are many people who can't make a paragraph in the first place, so you end up with two or more paragraphs that should be together, but have been separated making what ever they are talking about disjointed, kind of like a fragmented sentence.
I think the reason people have such a hard time reading on the internet is because they often skim through articles with out really reading them and double spacing does make that easier. Two, their type font is too small and they sit far away from the screen and three, they don't read anything actually printed anymore. Im convinced that reading a printed document is easier and helps you retain information better than reading off a computer screen.
So I would like to know am I wrong for thinking this and is there any other do's and don't of internet posting that you think are stupid or that everyone should adhere to.


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Newt on June 12, 2010, 07:48:21 PM
In writing in general, it has always been my understanding that separate paragraphs are separate thoughts or points.  One paragraph can follow from another, but there is a break between them.

It has been my observation that when I am posting lengthy explanations or discussions, if I break between paragraphs with an extra space I have a much higher incidence of readers actually getting all my points and with what appears to be greater comprehension.

So I would have to say that my own experience has given me the habit of adding in that 'extra' line space between paragraphs.  It reads better and heads off a good bit of frustration: I don't end up having to repeat myself as much!

Besides, I never was one to economise on keystrokes.    :wink:

Edited for spelling


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Rev. Powell on June 12, 2010, 09:49:14 PM
Newt's response was easier to read and easier on the eyes then the original post.  It's not a huge deal but I do approve of the convention.

Books don't double space at paragraph breaks, but they do indent the beginning of the first sentence for clarity.   

The one that outrages others but doesn't really bother me is TYPING IN ALL CAPS.  I don't find it harder to read than normal writing.  I actually prefer it to people who don't capitalize at all (which I find really annoying).


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Jack on June 13, 2010, 07:33:32 AM
I think a lot of people tend to sit back from their computer screen, so reading one huge block of text can be difficult.  A double space between paragraphs makes things easier for everyone.  With a book you can hold it at whatever distance is ideal, but sitting bent forward in front of a computer monitor for long periods of time isn't comfortable.  And if you increase the font size too much, you run into problems with page formatting.

My pet peeve is words that sound the same but are spelled differently, and have different meanings.  Like there, they're and their.  Or here and hear.  I mean, this is elementary school stuff, surely it can't be too taxing on a person's brain to do it correctly. 


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: trekgeezer on June 13, 2010, 10:08:42 AM
On the forum, I like when folks put line spaces between paragraphs, makes it much easier to read because of what Jack said.  I do tend sit back away from the screen.

If everything is in one big block do text I tend to have to use the cursor to scan one line at a time.


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Nukie 2 on June 13, 2010, 10:48:20 AM
Also, never call someone names over the internet , nor make threats. If you're going to argue, do it logically.


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Raffine on June 13, 2010, 11:10:56 AM
Be very cautious in the use of sarcasm.

It usually doesn't translate well to the written word. I've seen several temporary flare-ups here and on other sites over misunderstood sarcasm.

Or at least, utilize the " :lookingup:".

This site has a nice spell check function. I use it all the time! I realize good spelling doesn't matter that much to some, but it sure can add weight to your point you're trying to make.



Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: zombie no.one on June 13, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
People Who For Some Unknown Reason Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word They Type In A Sentence.

Seen quite a few people do it (not here), including one guy who was a moderator of a forum. Where did this come from, Is it some kind of recognised system of writing?

Top spelling annoyances:

"loose" instead of lose. This just looks so dumb, no offence.

"then" instead of than. e.g. He was better then you.

Any variation of 'Definitely'...this word is so rarely spelled correctly, and a little bit of my soul is crushed whenever 'Definately' or 'Defanitely' decide to gatecrash the party.


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Raffine on June 13, 2010, 02:02:56 PM
However, the misspelling of 'the' as 'teh' can be very effective, particularly when used as in caption of a photo of an adorable kitty.

(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t214/morrisawilliams/it-putz-teh-lotion-into-teh-basket.jpg)


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: InformationGeek on June 13, 2010, 05:28:03 PM
If you're going to argue, do it logically.

Oh how I wish people would do that on other forums.  I always keep running into people who just say something is bad or tell someone they are wrong without backing up their arguement.

One big thing I found that is a big don't is that you should never say your opinion is right and that everyone's else is wrong.  You will get so much flack for that.  I never said anything like that before, but I have seen a lot of people say it and get yelled at hard.  Most of the time they deserved it though.


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 13, 2010, 11:47:01 PM
Don't confess to evil sh!t and then get cocky about it. 


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: retrorussell on June 14, 2010, 04:19:06 AM
I find all caps or no caps rather irritating, but not using periods after a sentence, abbreviating a lot of words, or just flat-out abominable misspelling, or a combination of all of the above, really should receive a mention from a moderator.


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Trevor on June 14, 2010, 04:31:33 AM
I find all caps or no caps rather irritating, but not using periods after a sentence, abbreviating a lot of words, or just flat-out abominable misspelling, or a combination of all of the above, really should receive a mention from a moderator.

from TREVOR WHADDAYA meen yew dont laaik all CAPS or NO CAPS & abb. lotz of wudz. MI SCHPEEllings is KO and not related to the Abominable Snowman.  :wink:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Jack on June 14, 2010, 06:36:28 AM
I hate it when people quote an extremely long post just to add a one word agreement at the end  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: 3mnkids on June 14, 2010, 10:28:34 AM
Don't be a troll. If your only contribution is negative, get off the computer and seek counseling. I hate people who only post to knock others. How sad their lives must be.

When someone cant debate an issue they immediately go into grammar Nazi mode.



Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Silverlady on June 14, 2010, 12:40:24 PM
I find all caps or no caps rather irritating, but not using periods after a sentence, abbreviating a lot of words, or just flat-out abominable misspelling, or a combination of all of the above, really should receive a mention from a moderator.

from TREVOR WHADDAYA meen yew dont laaik all CAPS or NO CAPS & abb. lotz of wudz. MI SCHPEEllings is KO and not related to the Abominable Snowman.  :wink:
:bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Raffine on June 14, 2010, 04:22:50 PM
from TREVOR WHADDAYA meen yew dont laaik all CAPS or NO CAPS & abb. lotz of wudz. MI SCHPEEllings is KO and not related to the Abominable Snowman.  :wink:

I love that Afrikaan language.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: ulthar on June 14, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
Thread hijacking is another big no-no, or should be.

On another forum I frequent, we have one dude who chronically hijacks threads.  Someone will post a message, ten people respond on-topic, and then this guy replies an unrelated question or comment that sidetracks the discussion from what the OP posted.

He's also notorious for posting "me too, me too" type comments, typing long wordy answers to questions that have already been answered in previous posts.

He also posts incorrect information - it sounds smart and it might actually be technically correct but completely WRONG for the context.  He's pretty good at using Google and Wikipedia, but not so good at actually evaluating the info he finds on the 'Net.

In summary, if a post does not really contribute to the discussion...don't make it.  No one gets points on the Intarweb for the most words typed in useless messages in a year.

(Note: the bad movies forum is for entertainment so is FAR more open and lenient in regard to this stuff...the other forum is an informational forum where incorrect info could potentially get someone killed).


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Flick James on June 15, 2010, 10:46:29 AM
People Who For Some Unknown Reason Capitalize The First Letter Of Every Word They Type In A Sentence.

Seen quite a few people do it (not here), including one guy who was a moderator of a forum. Where did this come from, Is it some kind of recognised system of writing?

Top spelling annoyances:

"loose" instead of lose. This just looks so dumb, no offence.

"then" instead of than. e.g. He was better then you.

Any variation of 'Definitely'...this word is so rarely spelled correctly, and a little bit of my soul is crushed whenever 'Definately' or 'Defanitely' decide to gatecrash the party.

How Do You Know They Weren't Typing a Title? :wink:



Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 15, 2010, 09:13:13 PM
Top spelling annoyances:
"loose" instead of lose. This just looks so dumb, no offence.
My top spelling annoyance is "offence" instead of "offense".   :wink:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Nightowl on June 18, 2010, 02:02:31 PM
Don't over abbreviate. What's the point of shorting your sentences down if nobody can understand them?


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Sleepyskull on June 18, 2010, 03:41:32 PM
Top spelling annoyances:
"loose" instead of lose. This just looks so dumb, no offence.
My top spelling annoyance is "offence" instead of "offense".   :wink:

I might be wrong, but I believe "offence" means the same thing as "offense", the only difference being "offence" is the British spelling.

I'm not trying to insult you AHD, I just thought it was worth mentioning.  :smile:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Allhallowsday on June 18, 2010, 07:38:01 PM
Top spelling annoyances:
"loose" instead of lose. This just looks so dumb, no offence.
My top spelling annoyance is "offence" instead of "offense".   :wink:

I might be wrong, but I believe "offence" means the same thing as "offense", the only difference being "offence" is the British spelling.

I'm not trying to insult you AHD, I just thought it was worth mentioning.  :smile:
You get an "A" as both are considered correct.   :wink:  I was just trying to be funny.   :smile: :bluesad:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Raffine on June 18, 2010, 07:49:46 PM
I once mocked an album for having the word 'Marvellous' misspelled on the cover. I was mocked right back for not knowing that's the correct British spelling of 'Marvelous'.  :teddyr:

Bah! Other than Billy Crystal's Fernado, who uses the word 'marvelous' anyhow?


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: The Gravekeeper on June 25, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
People making multiple threads about the exact same topic/question. It doesn't take long to just check to see if the topic came up in the past few weeks; just click back a couple of pages and see. If you have the luxury of free time to post on a forum, you've got time to see if your burning question was already answered a while back.

While I'm at it, it's just good internet etiquette to haunt a forum you'd like to join for a little while so you can figure out what that particular community is like, how to avoid seriously p**sing off members, and whether or not it's a forum you'd like to join. Some online communities are extremely intolerant of anyone breaking both official and unofficial rules even if that person is brand new, after all (thankfully we seem to be a pretty tolerant and laid-back bunch).


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Jack on June 25, 2010, 06:59:31 AM
Over on the video game review website, people are constantly posting "What game should I buy?"  Good grief, how in the world should I know what kind of games you like?  Don't some of them look more interesting to you than others?  Since it's a review website, and games cost $60, couldn't you at least type the names of various games into the search engine and see what kind of scores they got?  And if you're feeling really ambitious, maybe hit the "play" button on the video review?   :lookingup:


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: ulthar on June 25, 2010, 09:08:14 AM

People making multiple threads about the exact same topic/question. It doesn't take long to just check to see if the topic came up in the past few weeks; just click back a couple of pages and see. If you have the luxury of free time to post on a forum, you've got time to see if your burning question was already answered a while back.


I agree, but...

I'm a mod on another forum, and we actually merge threads that are 'repeats.'  We have a small number of topics that come up repeatedly, and it seems like everyone and their brother wants to start a topic on one or the other.  We merge these into the existing threads so all the info is in one place (this is an informational forum, so we try to keep information easily searchable).

Well, we have lost members over this.  Folks get mad because they thought that we thought they were not "important" enough to have their own thread...even though the existing thread was 10 pages and the topic THOROUGHLY discussed from many angles.

This in turn led to a rather big behind-the-scenes debate by the mods about what to do and what is 'right.'  There's no easy answer.  Fragment the info, and no one can ever find all of what they need.  Merge threads and what seems like about 20% get angry because the thread is too long to read, etc.  We've batted around just about every conceivable solution to this and there is NO answer that satisfies everyone.

Ah, the sociology of Internet forums...

As for do's  and don'ts though, we do have a clearly stated rule to Search First, post in an existing thread if there is one, start a new thread only if it is really a new topic, so any action taken by the mods is justified withing the frame of that forum.  The issue, and what I find personally remarkable, is that so many people REALLY dislike this rule, and it's not always "they are too lazy to search."



Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Jack on June 28, 2010, 04:04:30 PM
This is an actual quote from a guy on another site:

Quote
tha would be awesum. if htey redesign wut do uthnk there actualy gona do with it

For chrissakes, if I lost both hands in an industrial accident I'd still be able to type better than that with my stumps!


Title: Re: Internet forum do's and don'ts
Post by: Trevor on June 29, 2010, 02:31:41 AM
This is an actual quote from a guy on another site:

Quote
tha would be awesum. if htey redesign wut do uthnk there actualy gona do with it

For chrissakes, if I lost both hands in an industrial accident I'd still be able to type better than that with my stumps!

 :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :thumbup: