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Title: Inception
Post by: Vik on July 15, 2010, 01:26:56 PM
I can't even begin to express how much I'm looking forward on seeing this. I'm a big Christopher Nolan fan and this looks like it might be his best film so far (That's saying a lot : The Dark Knight, The Prestige,  Batman Begins)
And it scores 9.5 on IMDB, that's the highest IMDB rating I've ever seen. So yes, this is sure to be a mastepiece.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66TuSJo4dZM


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 15, 2010, 02:45:44 PM
I'm really looking forward to it to.

But don't rely on IMDB #s before a film is released.  People are rating it a 10 without actually seeing it.  That rating will fall once the film is actually released, and over the years it will fall further.  Movies always start out with inflated ratings on IMDB and fall over time.

Rotten Tomatoes currently rates it 87%, which is very good and a lot more realistic.   


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Vik on July 15, 2010, 05:10:00 PM
Yeah, you're probably right.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: The Burgomaster on July 15, 2010, 08:31:08 PM
Some theaters around here are showing it tonight at midnight.  I, however, shall be in bed and will wait until this weekend to see it.  I'm really looking forward to it.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Pilgermann on July 16, 2010, 11:19:55 PM
Just got back from seeing it a short while ago and I really really liked it.  For those of you who can enjoy films dealing with perception of reality and whatnot there's a lot to love here.  While the concepts are nothing revolutionary the film itself is really thrilling and brilliantly constructed.  It's nearly 3 hours long but nothing felt superfluous and some of it's visually dazzling.  I don't want to say much about the plot 'cause I went in with very little knowledge of the story and the less you know about it the better.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Sersonius on July 17, 2010, 02:39:12 AM
I'm really looking forward to it to.

But don't rely on IMDB #s before a film is released.  People are rating it a 10 without actually seeing it.  That rating will fall once the film is actually released, and over the years it will fall further.  Movies always start out with inflated ratings on IMDB and fall over time.

Rotten Tomatoes currently rates it 87%, which is very good and a lot more realistic.   
I don't want to sound negative but you discourage from taking IMDB score seriously - especially that early (a very sound advice) and then you metnions rotten tomatoes as a reliable source for anything ?
BTW - metacritic (or Rotten Tomatoes top critics) average is 76 which is also pretty good. Otoh the differences in opinions are extreme - more than usual.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 17, 2010, 02:22:21 PM
I'm really looking forward to it to.

But don't rely on IMDB #s before a film is released.  People are rating it a 10 without actually seeing it.  That rating will fall once the film is actually released, and over the years it will fall further.  Movies always start out with inflated ratings on IMDB and fall over time.

Rotten Tomatoes currently rates it 87%, which is very good and a lot more realistic.   
I don't want to sound negative but you discourage from taking IMDB score seriously - especially that early (a very sound advice) and then you metnions rotten tomatoes as a reliable source for anything ?
BTW - metacritic (or Rotten Tomatoes top critics) average is 76 which is also pretty good. Otoh the differences in opinions are extreme - more than usual.

Yeah.  Rotten Tomatoes ratings are less inflated, and they only count the votes of people who've actually seen the movie.  Also, there's a "self-selection" problem on IMDB---early on, the ratings are dominated by die hard fans; people who aren't as enthusiastic haven't seen the movie yet.  That's one reason the IMDB ratings always go down after the film has been released on DVD.  I think RT is definitely a better barometer of how good the movie is early on. 


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Jim H on July 18, 2010, 01:54:00 PM
I'm really looking forward to it to.

But don't rely on IMDB #s before a film is released.  People are rating it a 10 without actually seeing it.  That rating will fall once the film is actually released, and over the years it will fall further.  Movies always start out with inflated ratings on IMDB and fall over time.

Rotten Tomatoes currently rates it 87%, which is very good and a lot more realistic.   
I don't want to sound negative but you discourage from taking IMDB score seriously - especially that early (a very sound advice) and then you metnions rotten tomatoes as a reliable source for anything ?
BTW - metacritic (or Rotten Tomatoes top critics) average is 76 which is also pretty good. Otoh the differences in opinions are extreme - more than usual.

Yeah.  Rotten Tomatoes ratings are less inflated, and they only count the votes of people who've actually seen the movie.  Also, there's a "self-selection" problem on IMDB---early on, the ratings are dominated by die hard fans; people who aren't as enthusiastic haven't seen the movie yet.  That's one reason the IMDB ratings always go down after the film has been released on DVD.  I think RT is definitely a better barometer of how good the movie is early on. 

RT is usually a decent barometer once the movie is actually released, in my experience.  Sometimes it can be misleading when they're only listing early reviews though.

Well, I saw it.  It was good.  Some of it was definitely stunning, and there's a lot of good ideas on display.  Fast paced, in general, as you'd expect from Nolan.  A tight script.  Good acting and action sequences.  And I did enjoy it.

As you can guess, there's a 'but' in here.  Somehow, emotionally the film didn't really connect for me.  I suspect this is partly because Leonardo DiCaprio was in the lead.  I think he's a good actor, but he's always somehow removed and reserved in his roles.  I can rarely really feel for his characters - compare him to Cillian Murphy in the film, who has probably 1/10th the screen time but I found myself empathizing more with.  That's fine in many of his roles, but considering the importance of his character arc in this film, it really took something away here. 

Aside from DiCaprio, the film also felt too long to me.  I was getting a little tired of its labryinth-like complexity by the end because of this.  Admittedly, this may have had something to do with me not being in the greatest frame of mind when I saw the film (I was a little tired to begin with). 

Overall, it's either a 7 or 8 out of 10...  I think I'll need to see it again to really decide, but that will probably not be until the DVD comes out.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 18, 2010, 08:35:43 PM
I'm really looking forward to it to.

But don't rely on IMDB #s before a film is released.  People are rating it a 10 without actually seeing it.  That rating will fall once the film is actually released, and over the years it will fall further.  Movies always start out with inflated ratings on IMDB and fall over time.

Rotten Tomatoes currently rates it 87%, which is very good and a lot more realistic.   
I don't want to sound negative but you discourage from taking IMDB score seriously - especially that early (a very sound advice) and then you metnions rotten tomatoes as a reliable source for anything ?
BTW - metacritic (or Rotten Tomatoes top critics) average is 76 which is also pretty good. Otoh the differences in opinions are extreme - more than usual.

Yeah.  Rotten Tomatoes ratings are less inflated, and they only count the votes of people who've actually seen the movie.  Also, there's a "self-selection" problem on IMDB---early on, the ratings are dominated by die hard fans; people who aren't as enthusiastic haven't seen the movie yet.  That's one reason the IMDB ratings always go down after the film has been released on DVD.  I think RT is definitely a better barometer of how good the movie is early on. 

RT is usually a decent barometer once the movie is actually released, in my experience.  Sometimes it can be misleading when they're only listing early reviews though.


That is true when they are selective in who they screen the movie to.  MACGRUBER got excellent pre-release reviews because they didn't let the "real" critics see it, then the ratings plummeted once Roger Ebert & crew got a chance to look at it. 

I'll be seeing INCEPTION this Tuesday, looking forward to it!


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: jimmybob on July 18, 2010, 10:18:30 PM
Really cool movie. However I wasn't really paying attention at points and I got lost.  :tongueout:

Spoiler!
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How did DiCaprio end up where the Chinese business guy was somehow on the beach ?
Also how DiCaprio planted an idea in his wife's mind while they were in the heaviest dream state possible ?
And if the subconscious mind of the dreamer populates the dream, how could they be sure that the air of the business dreams of the idea they want to plant in the final stage ?
Another question is can anyone control the maze of the dream except the dreamer, or only the architect ?
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I probably need to see the movie again.

-Jimmybob


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: El Misfit on July 20, 2010, 08:40:35 AM
I can't even begin to express how much I'm looking forward on seeing this. I'm a big Christopher Nolan fan and this looks like it might be his best film so far (That's saying a lot : The Dark Knight, The Prestige,  Batman Begins)
And it scores 9.5 on IMDB, that's the highest IMDB rating I've ever seen. So yes, this is sure to be a mastepiece.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66TuSJo4dZM[/url]
I'm really looking forward to it to.

But don't rely on IMDB #s before a film is released.  People are rating it a 10 without actually seeing it.  That rating will fall once the film is actually released, and over the years it will fall further.  Movies always start out with inflated ratings on IMDB and fall over time.

Rotten Tomatoes currently rates it 87%, which is very good and a lot more realistic.   


IMDb has it at 9.1 and has the number three spot. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Flick James on July 20, 2010, 09:23:24 AM
I'm going to see it this weekend. I usually avoid movies that have high amounts of CGI, but this one looks good.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Jim H on July 20, 2010, 01:44:28 PM
I'm going to see it this weekend. I usually avoid movies that have high amounts of CGI, but this one looks good.

There's actually not that much CG in this one.  Yeah, it's used, but it's comparable to The Dark Knight, maybe a little more than that.  Lots of miniatures, on location shooting, and elaborate sets (including a large hallway set they built onto a spinner so they could rotate it, rather than relying on CG/wires for the effect).


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Flick James on July 20, 2010, 01:48:36 PM
I'm going to see it this weekend. I usually avoid movies that have high amounts of CGI, but this one looks good.

There's actually not that much CG in this one.  Yeah, it's used, but it's comparable to The Dark Knight, maybe a little more than that.  Lots of miniatures, on location shooting, and elaborate sets (including a large hallway set they built onto a spinner so they could rotate it, rather than relying on CG/wires for the effect).

Well, then, even better. :cheers:

The trailer gave me the impression there would be wall-to-wall CGI.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 20, 2010, 02:33:57 PM
Saw it.  Loved it.  Best movie of the year so far IMO.  Will be composing a long review later today.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Flick James on July 20, 2010, 03:52:49 PM
I'm looking forward to it. This seems like the only summer blockbuster worth seeing. Is it just me, or is this summer one of the worst in years for summer releases? Just about everything so far looks unwatchable.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Jim H on July 20, 2010, 10:39:51 PM
I'm looking forward to it. This seems like the only summer blockbuster worth seeing. Is it just me, or is this summer one of the worst in years for summer releases? Just about everything so far looks unwatchable.

Definitely not just you.  I've heard some claim this as the worst year for summer "event" type films in the past 30 years.  The only one I've been COMPLETELY satisfied with has been Toy Story 3, though Inception was also up there.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: indianasmith on July 21, 2010, 12:41:04 AM
Maybe I'm easy to please, but I thoroughly enjoyed THE SORCEROR'S APPRENTICE.  I will say that INCEPTION looks pretty cool though!!


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Just_Isaiah on July 21, 2010, 02:54:54 PM
This movie played with mind so much, when I left the theater I felt like I was in "Limbo"; Overall A+ movie, with A+ acting... and the ending led me to believe I didn't fully figure the movie out.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Vik on July 22, 2010, 11:15:37 AM
I've been avoiding this thread for spoilers. I just got back from seeing it. I'm mildly dissapointed, it was really good and I enjoyed it but my expectation were too high I suppose.
It had great acting from everyone, very original movie and really good overal. I just expected a little more.
4.5/5


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Flick James on July 22, 2010, 11:41:41 AM
I've been avoiding this thread for spoilers. I just got back from seeing it. I'm mildly dissapointed, it was really good and I enjoyed it but my expectation were too high I suppose.
It had great acting from everyone, very original movie and really good overal. I just expected a little more.
4.5/5

Must have been very mild considering you still gave it a 4.5. I'm seeing it on Saturday.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Vik on July 22, 2010, 12:26:32 PM
I've been avoiding this thread for spoilers. I just got back from seeing it. I'm mildly dissapointed, it was really good and I enjoyed it but my expectation were too high I suppose.
It had great acting from everyone, very original movie and really good overal. I just expected a little more.
4.5/5

Must have been very mild considering you still gave it a 4.5.
Yes


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Hammock Rider on July 22, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
I like to think of it as a "heist" movie that explores some really surreal topics. I love the idea of that. Unfortunatley I agree with the person who said that they just couldn't connect with the movie or at least with Leo's acting. He didn't seem to really feel any pain or loss or guilt even though hus character was wrapped up in all those things.   
   It was a great idea on paper but in reality I just wasn't moved by it.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Flick James on July 26, 2010, 09:28:06 AM
Finally saw it this weekend. I was very impressed. I thought it was well conceptualized and delivered. This is the kind of movie where the concept, no matter how big a budget the filmmaker has, seems nearly impossible to pull off, yet Christopher Nolan did it very well, and I'm sure he worked his ass off pulling it all together. And it didn't stoop to using cheap plot tricks. The ending just sort of happened and it didn't really answer any questions, but it didn't have to and it didn't take anything away from the previous 2+ hours. The concept alone was enough. Hats off. Perfect film? No, but close. 4.7/5.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 30, 2010, 04:18:17 PM
INCEPTION is officially a classic.

Evidence: Armond White hates it (http://www.nypress.com/article-21420-despicable-inception.html).


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Vik on July 30, 2010, 05:00:47 PM
I saw it a 2nd time, and I enjoyed it much more (even though I really liked it the first time)  :thumbup:
And Happy Birthday Christopher Nolan !


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Flick James on July 30, 2010, 05:18:59 PM
I must have missed it during the opening credits, but now that I know Chrsitopher Nolan also wrote the script I'm even more impressed. The idea was great and it was well written. That actually makes sense. If Christpher Nolan had tried to pull off such a concept written by someone else, it probably would have failed miserably.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: The Burgomaster on August 09, 2010, 11:04:19 AM
I saw it yesterday and loved it.  The ending gave me chills.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Neville on September 08, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
I agree with the general impressions. Not perfection made summer blockbuster (too much action scenes IMHO), but very, very close. The concept is fascinating, the plot twists keep on coming, and the conflict of DiCaprio's character was plain amazing. The best movie of the year, so far, and the best Nolan since "Memento". I'd go as far as saying it is better than "Memento" at some points, the story is more complex and mature.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: bob on February 19, 2011, 07:22:54 PM
Easily my favorite movie I saw last year. This movie is simply amazing.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: peter johnson on February 21, 2011, 01:39:45 AM
He's "living" inside Michael Caine's brain/dream - Caine wants to be nice to him/give him a "life" after death - He's only alive within Caine's neurology -

peter.


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Ash on February 21, 2011, 11:46:06 PM
Ugh!  I hated, hated, hated this movie!

I officially hate anything directed by Nolan.  The guy is a total hack in my opinion.
While watching Inception, I kept thinking that there was something missing.  It wasn't until I read this thread (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/board/flat/177381167) on the IMDB that it became clear.
Nolan's movies are "emotionally unengaging".  I didn't give one rat's a** about any of the characters.  Same as in his Batman films.  There is this detachment that's downright disturbing.  I want to root for characters and in a Nolan film, that's something I'm definitely not going to get.

Awful film.  Half a star out of 4 and a huge  :thumbdown:
(the half a star was for the cool SFX)


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: peter johnson on February 22, 2011, 02:56:02 AM
Whoops! -
Can't get anything where you say to go , re . "Nolan", as it's "members only."

"Inception" is a briilant and difficult film.  If you have sites to contradict, please have things we can actually see without joining, merci -

peter


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 22, 2011, 01:46:44 PM
Whoops! -
Can't get anything where you say to go , re . "Nolan", as it's "members only."

"Inception" is a briilant and difficult film.  If you have sites to contradict, please have things we can actually see without joining, merci -

peter


Umm, Peter, Ash's just linking to a discussion thread on the IMDB.  I'm pretty sure you don't need to join anything.  I have no idea how you could have got a "members only" message from that link. 

Anyway, the IMDB thread just says that none of the characters were emotionally engaging.  I disagree; I was engaged with Leo's character, and Marion Cotillard's.  The supporting characters were flat but I didn't see that as a problem as it's a plot-based movie, and the plot kept me involved. 


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Olivia Bauer on February 23, 2011, 09:00:29 AM
It's one of the best films I've ever seen. I didn't even know Nolan made it. Nolan is now officially one of my favorite directors.

My favorite directors:

Tim Burton
C. Nolan
Peter Jackson
J. J. Abrams


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Flick James on February 23, 2011, 01:20:12 PM
Ugh!  I hated, hated, hated this movie!

I officially hate anything directed by Nolan.  The guy is a total hack in my opinion.
While watching Inception, I kept thinking that there was something missing.  It wasn't until I read this thread ([url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/board/flat/177381167[/url]) on the IMDB that it became clear.
Nolan's movies are "emotionally unengaging".  I didn't give one rat's a** about any of the characters.  Same as in his Batman films.  There is this detachment that's downright disturbing.  I want to root for characters and in a Nolan film, that's something I'm definitely not going to get.

Awful film.  Half a star out of 4 and a huge  :thumbdown:
(the half a star was for the cool SFX)


Hey, Ash is entitled to his opinion. He didn't engage with the characters, and if that were the case for me I'm sure I would have hated it too. However, I enjoyed Inception quite a bit. I don't usually go in for CGI fests but this one was an exception. Conceptualy I also thought it was very cool.

My wife and I are buying our first HD tv with part of our income tax refund. I think Inception may be my first Blue-Ray. Has anybody seen it in Hi-Def?


Title: Re: Inception
Post by: Jim H on February 23, 2011, 01:47:14 PM
Ugh!  I hated, hated, hated this movie!

I officially hate anything directed by Nolan.  The guy is a total hack in my opinion.
While watching Inception, I kept thinking that there was something missing.  It wasn't until I read this thread ([url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/board/flat/177381167[/url]) on the IMDB that it became clear.
Nolan's movies are "emotionally unengaging".  I didn't give one rat's a** about any of the characters.  Same as in his Batman films.  There is this detachment that's downright disturbing.  I want to root for characters and in a Nolan film, that's something I'm definitely not going to get.

Awful film.  Half a star out of 4 and a huge  :thumbdown:
(the half a star was for the cool SFX)


Hey, Ash is entitled to his opinion. He didn't engage with the characters, and if that were the case for me I'm sure I would have hated it too. However, I enjoyed Inception quite a bit. I don't usually go in for CGI fests but this one was an exception. Conceptualy I also thought it was very cool.

My wife and I are buying our first HD tv with part of our income tax refund. I think Inception may be my first Blue-Ray. Has anybody seen it in Hi-Def?


I've seen it in HD on Blu-Ray. It's a stunner, definitely a good first Blu-Ray.  It helps that most of it was shot on location in real places all over the world.  So you get lots of cool looking real places, beautifully shot.