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Title: The Green Hornet
Post by: Ted C on January 14, 2011, 10:29:01 AM
Another Hollywood remake. Already being panned by critics (including one whose opinion I actually respect).

I will not support this movie by paying money to see it in theatres; I'll be able to catch it on Netflix or something soon enough, I expect.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: InformationGeek on January 14, 2011, 10:15:05 PM
I'm checking out this movie this weekend hopefully, but I'm not expecting this movie to be on the same level as the comics.  I never read the comics either so I'm going to have to judge the movie on if it is a good movie by itself and not an adaption.  So frankly, with this thought in mind and actually seeing the trailer, I'm just going to hope for a fun little entertaining flick and not much else.  My expectations are not high, so this film better not fail me.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: 100Nights on January 14, 2011, 10:43:05 PM
Really I can't wait for this 3D fad to go away again like it did in the 50s.
Film makers who use it seem to be substituting style for substance.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 14, 2011, 11:22:59 PM
I'm definitely seeing this.  Mainly i'm a Seth Rogen fan, and it looks like it's a buddy movie with humor thrown in, just using those characters.

I'm not a fan of the tv show but I bet I'll love this one.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: jimmybob on January 15, 2011, 01:50:47 PM
Really I can't wait for this 3D fad to go away again like it did in the 50s.
Film makers who use it seem to be substituting style for substance.

But the movie being in 3D is the only way they can get people to pay the 10 buck ticket prices and come out to see the show.

You can get movies at home now in such good quality they have to have something you can't get at home at the cinema

-Jimmybob



Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: 100Nights on January 15, 2011, 04:48:01 PM
Really I can't wait for this 3D fad to go away again like it did in the 50s.
Film makers who use it seem to be substituting style for substance.

But the movie being in 3D is the only way they can get people to pay the 10 buck ticket prices and come out to see the show.

You can get movies at home now in such good quality they have to have something you can't get at home at the cinema

-Jimmybob



I'll concede that point, but these films just seem to be a lot of flash and no substance. Apparently people just want to see shiny things and flashing colors, plebeians...
I will also say that I watch a lot of trash cinema, and many  of these have inane writing too, but there is something charming about them. Whereas most films I've seen in the theater recently are so immediately forgettable I wonder why I went.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 16, 2011, 12:51:32 AM
Really I can't wait for this 3D fad to go away again like it did in the 50s.
Film makers who use it seem to be substituting style for substance.

But the movie being in 3D is the only way they can get people to pay the 10 buck ticket prices and come out to see the show.

You can get movies at home now in such good quality they have to have something you can't get at home at the cinema

-Jimmybob



I'll concede that point, but these films just seem to be a lot of flash and no substance. Apparently people just want to see shiny things and flashing colors, plebeians...
I will also say that I watch a lot of trash cinema, and many  of these have inane writing too, but there is something charming about them. Whereas most films I've seen in the theater recently are so immediately forgettable I wonder why I went.
Except Jackass 3D.  Awesomeness.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: JayJayM12 on January 16, 2011, 06:25:22 PM
Saw this last night and I actually liked it quite a bit more than I was expecting.  I'm not a comics fan in any way, so I had no familiarity whatsoever with the concept going in, but I'm pretty sure MANY liberties were taken.  To me, it was a comedy first, action movie second.  It definitely had a Pineapple Express without the pot kinda feel.  Nothing special, but entertaining enough for a couple hours.

I do agree with everyone else though - I wish the 3D thing would go away EXCEPT in special situations...


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 16, 2011, 11:40:27 PM
Saw this last night and I actually liked it quite a bit more than I was expecting.  I'm not a comics fan in any way, so I had no familiarity whatsoever with the concept going in, but I'm pretty sure MANY liberties were taken.  To me, it was a comedy first, action movie second.  It definitely had a Pineapple Express without the pot kinda feel.  Nothing special, but entertaining enough for a couple hours.

I do agree with everyone else though - I wish the 3D thing would go away EXCEPT in special situations...
That's the way they decided to take it when Seth signed on.  Kevin Smith was originally attached to write and direct it, and they wanted it completely serious.  And then they gave him a budget of $150 Million.  He declined, saying "I make buddy films about guys talking about their girlfriends and fart and di*k jokes, this is too big a project."

So Seth Rogen got it and they changed it up a bit.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Nathan45 on January 17, 2011, 08:50:06 AM
Kinda meh on it.  Seemed disjointed, maybe a lot of post production cuts?

The 3D was completely worthless (worse actually, since the colors seemed drab), if at all possible save a few bucks and see without 3D.



Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on January 17, 2011, 03:29:11 PM
Just as a side question, did anyone manage to catch the Green Hornet marathon on SyFy last week or so?  I had a blast watching it, I haven't seen it in years.

It still amazes me that Bruce Lee was able to go from such humble beginnings to becoming the star that he did.  Watching him display his pre-movie martial arts skills was always a very interesting thing for me, as well as realizing how important a figure he became only a few years later.  Totally cool  :smile:


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: akiratubo on January 17, 2011, 05:15:26 PM
If I see The Green Hornet at all, it will be at the dollar theater.  I just can't stand Seth Rogen.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Ed, Ego and Superego on January 17, 2011, 05:59:44 PM
I probably won't pay to see this, much as I loved the orginal TV show (Masta Bwuce!).  Also agree with the anti-3D element...if there are no rubber tentacles, spacecraft  or blood spray, I have no need for 3D.  Frankly i didn't need it then either. 



Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Jim H on January 17, 2011, 06:11:37 PM
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Another Hollywood remake. Already being panned by critics (including one whose opinion I actually respect).

I don't think it's really accurate to call this a remake.  It's like calling every newer Shakespeare film a remake.  Though it's worse for the Green Hornet, as this is actually the first Green Hornet FILM.  There was a TV show, and the serial, but no movie.

That said, I did enjoy the film.  Some parts of it were very funny.  If you really dislike Rogen, definitely skip it. 

This was also one of Jay Chou's better performances, I thought.  Probably because he's not asked to stretch his range.  For those not in the know, Jay Chou is a VERY popular Taiwanese singer who branched into acting about 5 years ago (really common in China, and quite a few singers-turned-actors have been quite good in both forms, like Leslie Cheung and Anita Mui).  However, he was mostly famous for being bland.  Some here might have seen him in Curse of the Golden Flower.  Shockingly enough, he has also directed a film, and apparently did an excellent job. But he can handle physical roles well, and here does a decent job with the comedy (he's the straight man to Rogen). 

My biggest complaint: Cameron Diaz was pointless, and could have easily been written out of the film.  Movie would have been more focused and probably 20 minutes shorter.  The whole conflict between Kato and Reid just wasn't that interesting for me - I thought the relationship between Rogen and James Franco in Pineapple Express was handled much better, for example.  Also, I thought they made Reid TOO Rogeny, if that makes sense.  I didn't mind them making a comedic Green Hornet film, I just wish it'd been more like half and half, rather than almost entirely a Rogen comedy vehicle.  Also, I think Reid should have become somewhat more competent by the end of the film.  Rogen's character in Pineapple Express seems totally badass in comparison.

Still, it's a decent experience.  I saw it in 2D, projected on 35mm.

7/10.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Nathan45 on January 17, 2011, 09:36:50 PM
Honestly the old clear 3d effect I noticed was the credits.  Seriously.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: JayJayM12 on January 18, 2011, 10:14:04 AM
I agree with Jim H. on this not really being a remake AND on the fact that the whole Cameron Diaz romantic interest angle was a waste.  The one thing that they kinda did with her that I liked (but they didn't explore it enough to make her appearance in the movie worth it) was (SORTA SPOILER ALERT):

I liked the way that they made her the mastermind behind the antics of the Green Hornet without her even knowing it.  It was a kinda interesting angle, but it was not used enough to make enough of an impact to make it worth it overall.  If they had done a little more with that, and dropped the romantic triangle altogether, then I could see her part being a good contribution.  Not that a movie like this can't have a romantic subplot, but the way that they did it seemed like such an afterthought, and didn't contribute...


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 18, 2011, 10:38:34 AM
Probably the only people who'll like the film are the ones like me who've: A.) Never seen the tv show, and B.) are fans of Seth Rogen.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: JayJayM12 on January 18, 2011, 10:43:34 AM
Probably the only people who'll like the film are the ones like me who've: A.) Never seen the tv show, and B.) are fans of Seth Rogen.

Very true - I was in that group too.  But yeah, if you have a reverance for the show or hate Seth Rogen, then this ain't the flick for you...

Interestingly, I saw it at Alamo Drafthouse and before the movie, they showed a bunch of clips from the show and now I DO want to see that too (too bad I missed the SyFy marathon).  It almost kinda worked in reverse for me!


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 18, 2011, 10:52:01 AM
Probably the only people who'll like the film are the ones like me who've: A.) Never seen the tv show, and B.) are fans of Seth Rogen.

Very true - I was in that group too.  But yeah, if you have a reverance for the show or hate Seth Rogen, then this ain't the flick for you...

Interestingly, I saw it at Alamo Drafthouse and before the movie, they showed a bunch of clips from the show and now I DO want to see that too (too bad I missed the SyFy marathon).  It almost kinda worked in reverse for me!
I now have an interest in seeing the show, just to see how it differs.  I like Seth Rogen so I'm interested in the flick but likely I'll wait til DVD.

On a side note, it makes me wonder how Kevin Smith's version would've turned out.  He's notable for the Jay and Silent Bob films, but he's done some comic books and is a fan of the show.  I just don't know if he'd pull out an action style superhero flick.  It'd probably have Kato and Britt talking about like, how much they get oral sex from their girlfriends or something.  I dunno.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Rev. Powell on January 20, 2011, 12:34:43 PM
My view: Not very good overall.  Worth a rental maybe.

On the plus side the visuals were excellent.  Loved the split screen & "Kato vision."  The final action sequence was quite preposterous, which could be good or bad depending on your view.

The script was dumb & lazy.  There were lots of interesting angles to these characters that weren't exploited.  The fact that Kato has 100% of the talent and the Green Lantern has none should have made for a lot more comedy and drama than it actually did.  Couldn't figure out why Kato was so willing most of the way to let GH hog the glory.

GH demonstrated no real fighting ability, but there was one scene where he held his own against a fighter who he couldn't possibly have defeated (you know the scene I mean).  Rubbed me the wrong way.

I don't see what people like about Seth Rogen.  He wasn't bad but he seemed like a lower-key Will Ferrell.  Not impressed by this performance. 

Overall, 2/5.

P.S. Never saw the TV show, never saw Seth Rogen before.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: HappyGilmore on January 21, 2011, 12:12:03 AM



P.S. Never saw the TV show, never saw Seth Rogen before.

Better Seth Rogen flicks: Observe and Report, which is a dark dark comedy with Ray Liotta, and Pineapple Express, which has a brilliant performance by James Franco.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Doggett on January 21, 2011, 08:26:16 PM
The fact that Kato has 100% of the talent and the Green Lantern none...

Hornet.
Green Hornet.

You have to wait a few months for the crushing disappointment of the Green Lantern to appear in the cinema.  :wink:
Having a magic ring isn't really a talent....


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Umaril The Unfeathered on January 21, 2011, 09:05:01 PM
The fact that Kato has 100% of the talent and the Green Lantern none...

Hornet.
Green Hornet.

You have to wait a few months for the crushing disappointment of the Green Lantern to appear in the cinema.  :wink:
Having a magic ring isn't really a talent....

Yeah, a magic ring dosen't make a movie. Besides, any villian with blonde hair or a yellow suit is completely resistant to the Lantern Ring. What kind of ring won't affect anything that's yellow?  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Jim H on January 21, 2011, 11:34:56 PM
The fact that Kato has 100% of the talent and the Green Lantern none...


Hornet.
Green Hornet.

You have to wait a few months for the crushing disappointment of the Green Lantern to appear in the cinema.  :wink:
Having a magic ring isn't really a talent....


Yeah, a magic ring dosen't make a movie. Besides, any villian with blonde hair or a yellow suit is completely resistant to the Lantern Ring. What kind of ring won't affect anything that's yellow?  :bouncegiggle:


Yellow suit in part, but yellow hair would just mean the yellow hair was immune.  Either way, someone as powerful as the Green Lantern can make the environment hurt them easily enough (throw a giant boulder). 

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/787285-yellow_batman_super.jpg)


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Dan on January 22, 2011, 05:53:49 AM
I thought it was OK. I wouldn't say "good", but I was expecting much worse from it. The "Kato-Vision" was cool.
Also, Christoph Waltz was a redeeming factor.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: 100Nights on January 23, 2011, 11:25:10 AM
The fact that Kato has 100% of the talent and the Green Lantern none...


Hornet.
Green Hornet.

You have to wait a few months for the crushing disappointment of the Green Lantern to appear in the cinema.  :wink:
Having a magic ring isn't really a talent....


Yeah, a magic ring dosen't make a movie. Besides, any villian with blonde hair or a yellow suit is completely resistant to the Lantern Ring. What kind of ring won't affect anything that's yellow?  :bouncegiggle:


Yellow suit in part, but yellow hair would just mean the yellow hair was immune.  Either way, someone as powerful as the Green Lantern can make the environment hurt them easily enough (throw a giant boulder). 

([url]http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18863/787285-yellow_batman_super.jpg[/url])


the glass of lemonade is really what does it for me in that scene.
All Star Batman and Robin is amazing.


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Doggett on January 23, 2011, 09:29:40 PM
Saw it in 2d and I liked it.
Its by-the-numbers stuff, but alright for an evening.

The only other Seth Rogan film I liked was Monsters Vs. Aliens.




3/5


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: SPazzo on February 03, 2011, 11:31:09 PM
Just saw it tonight in 2D.  It just seemed like a watered down version of Kick-Ass.  A few laughs, but not enough to warrant a second viewing or even a higher rating.
1.5/5


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: Mr. DS on October 22, 2011, 12:01:17 PM
I just watched this film and its not all that bad.  Good action, decent comedy (though I'm not really a Rogan fan) and a plot that is well paced. 


Title: Re: The Green Hornet
Post by: tracy on October 22, 2011, 12:14:20 PM
I have yet to see it...I couldn't get past Seth Rogan in the main role and the trailers made it look silly. Besides,they couldn't have Bruce Lee which is another strike against it.
(http://www.oneinchpunch.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/bruce-lee-kato.jpg)


Title: Rant Incoming: You've been warned!
Post by: WingedSerpent on October 22, 2011, 05:04:21 PM


Yeah, a magic ring dosen't make a movie. Besides, any villian with blonde hair or a yellow suit is completely resistant to the Lantern Ring. What kind of ring won't affect anything that's yellow?  :bouncegiggle:

The very first supervillian Hal  fought was all yellow. This is  Legion. (Later reconned out though...)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/LegionGreenLantern.png)

One of his recurring villains was Goldface

(http://blog.inetvideo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/goldface.jpg)

 

Staements like that  seems to tell me one of two things.
1. The person who said it, might only know the character from a t.v show or movies.  Those really aren't the best source of information on the character.  For example, Aquaman is often thought of as a joke because most people only really know him from the old Superfreinds cartoon show.  In the actual comic, Aquaman has superstrenght, reflexes, senses, and can really hold his own with the rest of the JLA.

2. In the over 40 years that some of theses characters have been published, why do people assume that no writer has ever devised a story line to exploit an obvious weakness? 

Sorry, some of this is coming from  a Green Lantern fan getting annoyed.  You should have seen me during the Hal vs Kyle debate back in the day.