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Alabama Governor: Only Christians are my Brothers 
Alabama Republican Governor Robert Bentley said in a Martin Luther King Jr. Day message Monday that he does not consider Americans who do not accept Jesus Christ as their savior to be his brothers and sisters.

"There may be some people here today who do not have living within them the Holy Spirit," Bentley said shortly after taking the oath of office, according to the Birmingham News. ''But if you have been adopted in God's family like I have, and like you have if you're a Christian and if you're saved, and the Holy Spirit lives within you just like the Holy Spirit lives within me, then you know what that makes? It makes you and me brothers. And it makes you and me brother and sister."

''Now I will have to say that, if we don't have the same daddy, we're not brothers and sisters," he continued. "So anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother..."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20028777-503544.html (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20028777-503544.html)

Seriously, what practical effect does him saying this have? Not really any I can see. Is he going to incarcerate jews and buddhists or something?

I think he expressed a fairly basic common theological position a little clumsily, but the ruckus it has stirred up is frankly overblown.  You don't have to be someone's brother to govern them effectively.

Yeah, sounds like he was just expressing his faith clumsily.

 Well, YEE-f#ckin' HA!  :hot:

 Whatta redneck Nazi.

*brain explodes*

I grew up in Alabama during the George (and Lurleen!) Wallace years. Nothing surpises me.

Alabama is still a strange place. I get almost daily Bible scriptures and uber-conservative Tea Party rants from my relatives who screw around like hot monkeys and live on disability checks for vague 'back troubles'.

I gotta lotta milker relatives up here in Michigan,too.

 :buggedout: :buggedout: :buggedout: +  :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr: :teddyr:

What an unfortunate attitude.  Why should this be acceptable from a "Christian" when it is roundly feared and condemned when it comes from a Muslim?

Well, it's not only down South, or even a regional thing in terms of disabilities:

There are loads of welfare and drug-dependent people in Holland who sit in cafe's all day smoking pot until they can't see straight.

And in the Soviet Union, alcoholism is a huge problem with people of all ages (including kids as young as 7,  because there's no drinking age.)   In fact the problem is so bad that the Russian govt. is (or was) considering a drinking age. Naturally, if the problem has gone on for this as long as it has, it will be hard to pass it. (Saw this on BBC World News sometime last year.)


  Hell with that, man...the world is a strange place!

Uhm... yeh. 

I guess the point I was making was that there are people all over who leech off the systems in place in their respective parts of the world, and not just in the 4 corners of America.   

And w\regard to me saying that the world is a strange place..I think that's a given by now.  There's somedays I wake up and the first thing I ask myself is, "what the H is gonna' happen on today's world stage"? 

And then I turn on the news, and get my answer.... :buggedout:

Being my brother has nothing to do with genetics or religion.

But I will have to see your DVD collection...  :wink:

Yeah, DVD'S are an important thing in a man's life. Good call  :tongueout:

If yer anti Bela-I'm onna jihaad!-or yeehaad!
But seriously,folks--muslims-radical christians. Same s**t. Personally-If religion turns you into a bigoted a***ole-I want no part of yer "god". More murder has been commited in the name of one god or another that it makes organized religion of any sort a joke. I aint an atheist-I believe in a higher power-but I dont pretend to know what it is-or how it operates. Heaven-Hell-Satan-God-...fairy tales.Invented to keep people in line.
And if you think Muslims invented religious jihaad-uh-the Crusades-the Inqusition? Before that-the Romans killing Christians-beginning of time,I reckon. f**k organized religion. I got mine-you got yours-who cares?

Anyone who doesnt appreciate the insightful wisdom of ROBOT MONSTER should be burned at the stake! BURN THE HERETIC! BURN! BURN!!!! :hot:

A terrible thing to say, and horribly un-Christian to boot.

When Christ said "Love your fellow man" he did not add provisos. To add them yourself is a betrayal of what you purport to believe.

Well I think that back then there was a different meaning to loving your fellow man than the one now. It means a (w)hole  new thing today..j\k  :tongueout:

Actually, you bring up an interesting thought I had about religion.  Considering that Islam was started circa 700 and that all these things existed in Christianity roughly around 1000 - 1200 and lasted about 500 years or so, Is this just the natural evolution of a religion?  Does after about 1000 years or so some zealotry occur that eventually dies out as basic philosophical thoughts on humanity enter into the culture?

One thing to remember: The Crusades, as horrible as they were, represented the Church trying to reclaim the land of its birth.  Muslims militarily conquered Judea at a time when Western Christendom was very weak.  The two faiths did coexist for awhile, but when the Seljuk Turks wrested control of the Muslim lands from the Abassid Dynasty, they began a heavy persecution of Christians and quit allowing the faithful to visit the Holy Places of their faith.  Many non-violent Christian pilgrims were murdered or enslaved before the Church finally took up the sword to reclaim the land of its birth.
Don't mistake me - the stuff done during the Crusades was wrong - but there was ample wrong on both sides, and the Christians did not START the violence.

Well, I left out that "...as you would love yourself" bit.

All I'm saying is that the the police and I have very different opinions on the "whys and wheres" of the Golden Rule.

Some things you have to learn the hard way.

Actually, I think most of that was pretext.  If I am not mistaken most came from the Ottoman Empire seeking aid from the west.  They used we are Christian helps us as an excuse for more we have alot of aggressive armed people on our doorstep do you think you guys could help us out as we are both Christian.  At least in the initial stages, it eventually devolved into more basic terms as time went on in the first crusade. 

I think you are referring to the Byzantine Empire, not the Ottomans.  That is true - the Byzantines had tried to retake the Holy Land from the Turks and got their clocks cleaned at the Battle of Manzikurt, so they appealed to their fellow Christians in the West for aid.  But however noble or ignoble the original intent may have been, the whole thing became a farce.  In the Fourth Crusade, Christian Latins from the West sacked and burned Constantinople - the capitol of a Christian Empire - and never even got close to Jerusalem.

Right. I believe, though I may be wrong, I had read once that the Roman Holy Sites in Constantinople were burned to the ground in 1198(?) and that was one of a series of one-up's that caused the Crusades to turn from a conflict into a full blown war.

However, despite the fact that Christians didn't start the violence, but try telling that to people today....Christians have gotten stuck with the check for almost every act of violence since, but noone seems to be willing to address the other atrocities that have taken place in the world, and there have been many.

Not a problem, I get where you're comin' from. I was just being a jokester as usual.

The Golden Rule certainly has been tested thru the ages, hasn't it?

Thanks IndianaSmith, sorry I was misplacing my memory.