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Title: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: InformationGeek on February 26, 2011, 10:20:06 PM
I'll post an official thread on the movie when it hit theaters, but for now, we can dicuss the movie here.  Here's the trailers and couple of posters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrIiYSdEe4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYsbZrmGgbI

(http://www.soundonsight.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Sucker-Punch-Movie1.jpg)

To be honest, this movie looks ridiclous, crazy, weird as hell, and possibly stupid.  However, it looks like a fun action film with a cool looking art style and I'm going to try to see it in the theaters.  Okay, the girls are hot, but it looks so insane that'll be fun.

So... your thoughts?


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: akiratubo on February 26, 2011, 10:34:25 PM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots.  I won't pay to see it.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 26, 2011, 11:13:55 PM
I'm about 50% on whether I'll see it.  I'll wait to see what the early reviewers say.  It honestly doesn't look too great to me from the trailers, but I've like the other Zach Snyder movies I've seen.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: ghouck on February 27, 2011, 02:25:17 AM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots.  I won't pay to see it.

That's why I WILL pay to see it. . .


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Jack on February 27, 2011, 07:31:30 AM
Looks like a women in prison flick crossed with Mortal Combat or something.  I'll pick it up when the DVD hits $5.  These goofy action flicks are fun sometimes.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: RCMerchant on February 27, 2011, 07:38:12 AM
I like the Led Zep music!  :thumbup:
But I have that album....so I wont pay 10 dollars to hear it on a soundtrack.
Those girls look too pretty to be in prison. Pretty girls don't go to jail. Fact.
Except in AIP WIP movies. This ain't. No Pam Grier. No Linda Blair. No Dyanne Thorne. Or Sybil Danning.
I'd defintly watch it-if someone loans me the dvd in the future.I aint gonna rush out to see it.
Looks ok-I guess. Too much cgi,I reckon.
Im a Bad movie snob-big budget horror stuff is too shiny for me. Too glossy. I dunno.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Paquita on February 27, 2011, 02:02:37 PM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots.  I won't pay to see it.

That's why I WILL pay to see it. . .

I wasn't even thinking about seeing it until you put it that way.. now it sounds good!

It's a shame Lindsay Lohan isn't in this, it looks like it would be perfect for her - she's mental, been to jail, has big boobs, and I think she's a lesbo.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Doc Daneeka on February 27, 2011, 02:50:29 PM
I like the Led Zep music!  :thumbup:
But I have that album....so I wont pay 10 dollars to hear it on a soundtrack.
Those girls look too pretty to be in prison. Pretty girls don't go to jail. Fact.
Except in AIP WIP movies. This ain't. No Pam Grier. No Linda Blair. No Dyanne Thorne. Or Sybil Danning.
I'd defintly watch it-if someone loans me the dvd in the future.I aint gonna rush out to see it.
Looks ok-I guess. Too much cgi,I reckon.
Im a Bad movie snob-big budget horror stuff is too shiny for me. Too glossy. I dunno.
I'm not sure, but I believe it's an asylum, not prison

And I am very interested to see how exactly they will pull off a film of this calibre


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: movie masochist on February 27, 2011, 07:14:19 PM
When I saw the trailer for this I thought it was yet another movie made about a video game.  When I realized it wasn't, I figured maybe they made the movie to make a video game about it(?)  Otherwise I don't get it.  I will not be going to see it.  I like movies that are so bad they're good, not movies that are just bad. 

www.thebestbadmovies.com


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Hammock Rider on February 28, 2011, 11:45:24 AM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots.  I won't pay to see it.

That's why I WILL pay to see it. . .

I'm all in. If it even only delivers a part of what it promises( a distinct possibility) that's plenty enough for me.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Flick James on February 28, 2011, 02:55:53 PM
It's got Emily Browning playing the lead. I haven't figured out if I find her hot or not. I only say that because that would be a factor for me with a movie of this kind.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: dean on March 01, 2011, 01:26:51 AM
It looked great until I was told its 'all in her head.'  Now I'm thinking it will visually look good but story wise not what I wanted...  :bluesad:

Reality sometimes gets in the way of a good fantasy flick


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: WyreWizard on March 03, 2011, 11:09:53 AM
I'll just wait for it to come out on blu-ray.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Kevin Bachelder on March 03, 2011, 01:27:58 PM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots. 


Is that cool or what!  :)

Really looking forward to this one.


Kevin


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Torgo on March 03, 2011, 05:49:25 PM
I wish that they would have gone for a R rating on this one instead of PG-13, but it could be cool. I've got a feeling that it's going to rock or suck something horribly.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on March 25, 2011, 11:36:16 PM
Well, forum brothers and sisters, I took the plunge!

My wife and I got out for a date night tonight and I talked her into going to see this with me.  I'll just be very up front:


I    LOVED      THIS     MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I could not tear my eyes away from the screen.  The fantasy sequences were simply incredible - cute blonde in schoolgirl outfit fighting giant samurai statues with a katana and a .45; four cute babes fighting WWI zombie Germans as Triplanes and Zeppelins swirl and fight overhead; four cute babes battling orcs with machine guns to get at a baby dragon; whorehouse sequences, asylum sequences, gunplay, swordplay, dancing, attempted rape by fat cook, gangsters turned orderlies, doctors turned dance instructors . . .


I am still trying to get my head around this thing.  If Heironymus Bosch made movies instead of artwork, he would have made this movie.  The plot is a tangled mess, yet there is a plot there.  I got it . . . I just can't explain it.  But I found myself laughing out loud and wanting to applaud in places.


That being said, my wife HATED it.  I mean, absolutely hated it.  On the way home, our conversation went something like this: 
"DREADFUL!!"  "Awesome!!!"  "Dreadful!"  "AWESOME!!!" for about 20 minutes.

I have a feeling there is an incredibly smarmy chick flick in my near future - the last two movies I've taken her to, she's absolutely hated.  Oh well.  This one ROCKED!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Archivist on March 26, 2011, 03:41:02 AM
Thanks for being the first to take a shot at this.  I haven't seen it, and I doubt that I will.  No matter how cool the visuals, I can't get past the fact that all this awesome action only takes place in the heads of the protagonists.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: InformationGeek on March 26, 2011, 07:15:13 AM
I have a feeling there is an incredibly smarmy chick flick in my near future - the last two movies I've taken her to, she's absolutely hated.  Oh well.  This one ROCKED!!!!!!!

Is that so?  That's good, but I am a bit weary on whether to see it or not as of recently due to the word of mouth of people I've been hearing from.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Doggett on March 26, 2011, 07:39:19 AM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots.  I won't pay to see it.

That's why I WILL pay to see it. . .

 :thumbup:
Yep. I'm in too !


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: ghouck on March 26, 2011, 06:29:58 PM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots.  I won't pay to see it.

That's why I WILL pay to see it. . .

I wasn't even thinking about seeing it until you put it that way.. now it sounds good!

It's a shame Lindsay Lohan isn't in this, it looks like it would be perfect for her - she's mental, been to jail, has big boobs, and I think she's a lesbo.


Don't talk about my future wife like that. . .


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Paquita on March 26, 2011, 10:14:24 PM
Seems like it's about women imagining fighting monsters and robots.  I won't pay to see it.

That's why I WILL pay to see it. . .

I wasn't even thinking about seeing it until you put it that way.. now it sounds good!

It's a shame Lindsay Lohan isn't in this, it looks like it would be perfect for her - she's mental, been to jail, has big boobs, and I think she's a lesbo.


Don't talk about my future wife like that. . .

Ok I'm sorry, I KNOW she's a lesbo, but I'm sure you can set her straight.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Kaseykockroach on March 28, 2011, 01:16:31 AM
I'm a 19 year old male who enjoys mindless fun once in awhile (obviously, that's why I'm on this forum :P)...But this was just unspeakably painful.
What is it with people being suckers for confusing plots like Inception? Is that equal to intelligence? And this movie couldn't decide if it wanted to be mindless and "fun", or disturbing and "deep". I would've walked out but I was dragged into sitting through this garbage.
This movie is just another example why I haven't gone to the theatre by choice in nearly a decade.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: claws on March 28, 2011, 01:35:06 AM
Second Box Office disappointment for director Zack Snyder (1st: Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole). Warners golden boy will get the boot should Superman: Man of Steel not deliver.

As for Sucker Punch, I'm not really in a hurry to watch this. I'll wait for the Blu-ray and hope they will release the director's cut.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: InformationGeek on March 28, 2011, 01:29:58 PM
As for Sucker Punch, I'm not really in a hurry to watch this. I'll wait for the Blu-ray and hope they will release the director's cut.

Same with me.  I've seen these trailers and I know that there will be an uncut director's cut of the movie something done the line.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on March 28, 2011, 07:21:27 PM
I'll probably buy it when it comes out. 

Did I mention that I REALLY liked this movie?

Oh - and here's a quote, from Scott Glenn as The Wise Man:

"To those of us who fight for it, life has a savor the sheltered will never taste."


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Hammock Rider on March 29, 2011, 08:47:31 AM
Well I saw it last night and I have to say that watching it was like paying ten dollars to watch someone else play video games. I'm glad other folks liked it so much, but it just didn't do much for me. In a way it reminded me of Avatar in that the graphics were great but the writing left me a bit cold.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Flick James on March 29, 2011, 10:36:15 AM
I'll probably buy it when it comes out. 

Did I mention that I REALLY liked this movie?

Oh - and here's a quote, from Scott Glenn as The Wise Man:

"To those of us who fight for it, life has a savor the sheltered will never taste."

I like Scott Glenn, but that's a line that I could really picture being delivered by Sam Elliott.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Joe the Destroyer on March 29, 2011, 07:50:36 PM
I'll most likely see it since I like over the top action flicks, no matter how Hollywoodized they are.  When is another story since budget is tight and tickets are expensive. 


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Psycho Circus on April 02, 2011, 02:27:32 PM
Utter garabge. Glossy, souless hollywood tripe made simply to drain idiots of their hard earned dollar. I'm damn sick of the trailers every 5mins on TV here.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: RCMerchant on April 02, 2011, 02:44:52 PM
What he ^ said. :thumbup:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on July 01, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
Well, I took all of your comments and thoughts into consideration, and tonight I rented this movie and watched it again.  I tried to be nit-picky and critical, and to think my earlier reaction to this movie was adrenalin-fueled euphoria.
Couldn't do it.

I STILL LOVE THIS FILM!!!!

As a matter of fact, thus far, this is the movie of the year for me.  I  simply MUST buy a copy next payday.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: InformationGeek on July 01, 2011, 09:34:15 PM
Well I hope to check out this movie soon, now that the DVD is coming out.  Like I suspected, it is an extended edition (hopefully that means it's uncut), so I hope to get the real full experience out of it.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Couchtr26 on July 01, 2011, 11:28:57 PM
I'm not sure on Sucker Punch.  There are moments I enjoyed but I didn't like the overall.  For some reason, I think it would have been better if the entire movie remained in her head. 


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Flick James on July 06, 2011, 08:37:38 AM
I think I'll check it out at some point. I'm not expecting it to be great or anything, but I imagine there's some good fun in there somewhere.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: skuts on July 15, 2011, 01:34:06 PM
The DVD seems to be the Theatrical Release. The Blu-Ray package includes the extended cut in both Blu-Ray and DVD plus a digital version. What the hell? Someone is either going to buy the blu-ray or the dvd. Who the hell is going to buy both? It makes no sense. I'm not spending $25 to buy three discs if I'm only going to watch one.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 15, 2011, 01:45:53 PM
The DVD seems to be the Theatrical Release. The Blu-Ray package includes the extended cut in both Blu-Ray and DVD plus a digital version. What the hell? Someone is either going to buy the blu-ray or the dvd. Who the hell is going to buy both? It makes no sense. I'm not spending $25 to buy three discs if I'm only going to watch one.

They're packaging DVDs and Blu-rays together like this more and more often.  My guess is they're aiming at people who may be thinking about upgrading to BR in the near future, so they won't have to double-dip if they upgrade.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Flick James on July 15, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
The DVD seems to be the Theatrical Release. The Blu-Ray package includes the extended cut in both Blu-Ray and DVD plus a digital version. What the hell? Someone is either going to buy the blu-ray or the dvd. Who the hell is going to buy both? It makes no sense. I'm not spending $25 to buy three discs if I'm only going to watch one.

They're packaging DVDs and Blu-rays together like this more and more often.  My guess is they're aiming at people who may be thinking about upgrading to BR in the near future, so they won't have to double-dip if they upgrade.

Well, there's that and the fact that the BR won't play in a standard DVD player, so the purchaser has both options. At least that's what I thought was the point. Rev may have a point.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on March 16, 2012, 12:49:01 AM
I just watched this movie for the THIRD time, and it gets better every time.  This one is definitely in my all time top ten list, and maybe even top five.  I understand it a little more every time I see it.  Lots of eye candy, to be sure, but this is a very, very deep film.

I love it!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: FatFreddysCat on April 18, 2012, 10:44:34 PM
I really wanted to like this movie but in the end it left me cold.

Zack Snyder did the impossible with "Sucker Punch." He took what should've been a can't miss concept - a bazillion dollar action flick with a cast made up almost entirely of scantily clad hot women -- and somehow he managed to make it BORING.

I felt like I was standing behind someone in an arcade watching them play a video game the whole time.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: dean on April 19, 2012, 02:11:55 AM

Watched this the other night with my girlfriend and her main comment was 'is Zack Snyder trolling?'

Looked up a review that was amusing and filled with quotes like this:

"Babydoll returns from Planet Gyrate to the magical brothel of dreams, and hatches a plan to escape, using the instructions of Mystical Kimono Dude - they must procure a map, a knife, fire, a key, and... something else. The final element, much like on Captain Planet, must be discovered by Babydoll through the course of their adventures.

And those adventures involve, variously, kablammo-ing a horde of steampunk Nazi zombie soldiers, committing dragon infanticide, and dismantling a bomb on a train heading toward the International Daft Punk Cosplayers Convention. "

and particularly telling:

"Here's a different way to experience Sucker Punch: open a bunch of tabs; in one, go to YouTube, load up Leeroy Jenkins; load up Suicide Girls in another tab; then take a bunch of downers and flick furiously between the two tabs while you play the Godzilla and Spawn soundtracks"


http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/movie-reviews/sucker-punch-_-movie-review20110405.aspx
 (http://www.thevine.com.au/entertainment/movie-reviews/sucker-punch-_-movie-review20110405.aspx)


I still like the movie overall, but am under no illusions as to how much the movie plays out like a 14 year old boys fantasy flick.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on April 19, 2012, 06:34:05 AM
I still think it is a beautiful and sensitive restatement of man's place in the universe, and the power of love to triumph over all.


With giant samurai robots and schoolgirls with guns! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: InformationGeek on April 19, 2012, 08:20:53 AM
I still think it is a beautiful and sensitive restatement of man's place in the universe, and the power of love to triumph over all.


With giant samurai robots and schoolgirls with guns! :teddyr:

Are sure you aren't talking about some sort of anime?


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on April 19, 2012, 04:22:45 PM
Nope.  trust me, I know my SUCKER PUNCH like I know my computer keyhbapdyvkhdjkafkljli -


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Saucerman on April 21, 2012, 09:37:44 AM
Gina and I caught this on TV a couple weeks back.  We spent the entire time groaning and looking at each other and asking, "What the hell are we watching?" and then flipped over to Ernest Goes To Jail for something a little more thought-provoking.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 11:17:53 AM
It's been playing like crazy on cable but I haven't brought myself to watch it but a couple of ten minute segments or so. I know Indy loves it, I can't say if it sucks or not, but I have to say, despite a pervy fascination Emily Browning, I still can't generate enough interest to sit down and watch it.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Torgo on April 24, 2012, 02:20:43 PM
I thought that the script had one layer too many. The whole idea of her escaping into some kind of an alternate mental reality of her current surroundings was cool but then adding the additional layer of them escaping into yet another alternate thing fighting robots and the such was pointless and took away from the movie. It's really hard to get vested in an action sequence when you know that there's nothing at all at stake. But the movie is beautiful to look at and the mostly all female case are definitely nice eye candy too.

I gave the extended director's cut a **1/2 out of ****.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Psycho Circus on April 27, 2012, 07:59:12 AM
My girlfriend hates this movie, which makes me love her even more.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Flick James on April 27, 2012, 09:05:03 AM
My girlfriend hates this movie, which makes me love her even more.  :teddyr:

CIRCUS! Good to see you, man!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on April 27, 2012, 05:14:56 PM
Love ya, Circus, and glad to have you back! :cheers:

But SUCKER PUNCH is still AWESOME! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: ghouck on April 29, 2012, 03:38:36 AM
I like it. It's a fun movie that is fun for the sake of fun. Forget about trying to make sense of it, just go with the flow and enjoy it.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Andrew on April 29, 2012, 09:02:19 AM
It's "Brazil" meets every geek's wet dreams.  I actually enjoy some of the action scenes (which is good, because half of the movie is action scenes connected by the strange asylum plot).  However, I don't think I really like it or dislike it.  It just is what it is, a no-brain eye candy movie with an edgy soundtrack that tries to have a clever plot.  Call it a two out of four in my book.

It was good to see Scott Glenn in the film, and injecting him into the real world at the end was obvious but still worked.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: tommex84 on May 06, 2012, 11:50:08 AM
Sucker Punch! Now that is one crazy (not in a good way) movie which makes no sense at all.  :thumbdown:

I watched this movie because I saw the poster with chicks fighting, but I also expected some good story behind it. After seeing it, only one thing came to my mind. What the hell did I just see?  :question:

I don't know what the hell was the writer thinking or what was he "on" when he came up with this movie. The story is all twisted and makes no sense and would probably be better off if it stayed with only one alternate reality, but nooo, the writer just had to go one step further (the wrong way) and create another alternate reality within the existing alternate reality, which is just stupid and senseless.

Why do I say the story is twisted? Because the writer did nothing more than just mixed together different popular plots (abusive step-family, mental institution, shaolin temple, martial arts, WWII trenches, zombies, ...) from mixed genres, added some nearly bare-breasted, violent adolescent girls with guns and martial arts skills and wrapped it all up in Japanese anime fighting cartoon like scenery.  :buggedout:

I guess the old saying "Sex sells" is what this movie is all about and the writer just needed something to attract horny teenagers to see this trash.  :thumbdown:

The only thing in this movie that makes sense is the title. If you were stupid enough to pay good money to see it or just took the time to download and watch it, then you got Sucker Punched, just like me.

I hope I didn't insult anyone who actually liked this movie, cause I was merely expressing my opinion.

cheers  :smile:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on May 06, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
You're welcome to your opinion, of course.

Upon multiple viewings, the true deep and philosophical implications of this movie come to the fore.  It is an existential statement about the illusive nature of reality and the triumph of the human spirit.

With girls in skimpy costume. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: tommex84 on May 06, 2012, 01:06:57 PM
the writer did nothing more than just mixed together different popular plots (abusive step-family, mental institution, shaolin temple, martial arts, WWII trenches, zombies, ...) from mixed genres, added some nearly bare-breasted, violent adolescent girls with guns and martial arts skills and wrapped it all up in Japanese anime fighting cartoon like scenery.  :buggedout:

With the budget they had (over 80mil) they could do better on that department.

Yes, the girls were hot :wink:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: dean on May 07, 2012, 08:12:38 AM
You're welcome to your opinion, of course.

Upon multiple viewings, the true deep and philosophical implications of this movie come to the fore.  It is an existential statement about the illusive nature of reality and the triumph of the human spirit.

With girls in skimpy costume. :teddyr:

Surely Indy is trolling right?  :twirl:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Chainsaw midget on May 07, 2012, 08:41:01 AM
You're welcome to your opinion, of course.

Upon multiple viewings, the true deep and philosophical implications of this movie come to the fore.  It is an existential statement about the illusive nature of reality and the triumph of the human spirit.

With girls in skimpy costume. :teddyr:

Surely Indy is trolling right?  :twirl:
Either that, or all these bad movies have finally broke him.   :twirl:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on May 07, 2012, 09:00:02 PM
Jokes aside, I really did love this film.  I did find it to be something deep and existential, beyond all the special effects and eye candy. This movie had meaning for me.  I've watched it three times now and will probably take it in again soon.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: ChaosTheory on May 15, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
I didn't like it but I'm okay with it existing.  Every generation needs a DUNE.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Dr. Whom on May 18, 2012, 05:30:25 AM
I found it a bit disappointing, even though a movie that has a girl in skimpy sailor fuku fighting a giant gatling armed robotic samurai needs very little else, in my opinion. (Yes, I think Kitamura is a cinematic genius). My Significant Other, on the other hand, with no particular interest in movies, absolutely loved it. She was all for girls manipulating men, and fearlessly cutting down everything in their way.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Rev. Powell on May 18, 2012, 12:14:29 PM

After seeing it, only one thing came to my mind. What the hell did I just see?  :question:

I don't know what the hell was the writer thinking or what was he "on" when he came up with this movie. The story is all twisted and makes no sense and would probably be better off if it stayed with only one alternate reality, but nooo, the writer just had to go one step further (the wrong way) and create another alternate reality within the existing alternate reality, which is just stupid and senseless.

Why do I say the story is twisted? Because the writer did nothing more than just mixed together different popular plots (abusive step-family, mental institution, shaolin temple, martial arts, WWII trenches, zombies, ...) from mixed genres, added some nearly bare-breasted, violent adolescent girls with guns and martial arts skills and wrapped it all up in Japanese anime fighting cartoon like scenery.  :buggedout:


You really make it sound like something I should find time to see.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: tommex84 on May 18, 2012, 09:32:16 PM

After seeing it, only one thing came to my mind. What the hell did I just see?  :question:

I don't know what the hell was the writer thinking or what was he "on" when he came up with this movie. The story is all twisted and makes no sense and would probably be better off if it stayed with only one alternate reality, but nooo, the writer just had to go one step further (the wrong way) and create another alternate reality within the existing alternate reality, which is just stupid and senseless.

Why do I say the story is twisted? Because the writer did nothing more than just mixed together different popular plots (abusive step-family, mental institution, shaolin temple, martial arts, WWII trenches, zombies, ...) from mixed genres, added some nearly bare-breasted, violent adolescent girls with guns and martial arts skills and wrapped it all up in Japanese anime fighting cartoon like scenery.  :buggedout:


You really make it sound like something I should find time to see.

Give it a try maybe you'll like it. I didn't.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: RCMerchant on May 19, 2012, 05:57:33 AM
OK. I put my money where ny mouth was.
I watched it.
It was an overblown cgi fx flick.

I can see how a 12 year old teenager might like it-but my 17 year old son thought it was stupid.

He was right.



Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on May 19, 2012, 08:30:53 AM
You guys just don't get zombie triplane existentialism . . . . :teddyr:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: RCMerchant on May 19, 2012, 03:52:29 PM
I'm afraid the film BATTLESHIP is gonna be more of the same-I idin't like 2012, ( one of the worst films Ive ever seen)I dont like SUCKER PUNCH,I dont like fx cgi based movies.
I need a story. If I dont have a story-I need Bela lugosi ,Tor Johnson,or a BAD movie that is very low budget. If your going to spend millions of dollars to make s**t,dont expect me to watch it..


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Psycho Circus on May 20, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
I'm afraid the film BATTLESHIP is gonna be more of the same-I idin't like 2012, ( one of the worst films Ive ever seen)I dont like SUCKER PUNCH,I dont like fx cgi based movies.
I need a story. If I dont have a story-I need Bela lugosi ,Tor Johnson,or a BAD movie that is very low budget. If your going to spend millions of dollars to make s**t,dont expect me to watch it..

 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on May 20, 2012, 07:46:21 PM
Sigh . . . . :bluesad:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on July 25, 2012, 07:21:59 PM
I just thought I would mention that I just watched the entire movie for the fourth time . . . this is the greatest film in the history of cinema.  I am changing my religion from Christian (Baptist) to Christian (Punchologist)! :teddyr:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Pilgermann on July 31, 2012, 01:34:16 PM
I thought it was incredibly boring and the story is empty and pointless and resorts to ripping off Brazil.  Soundtrack was pretty obnoxious, too.  I always like getting to look at Carla Gugino, and I decided that I really like to watch Jenna Malone shoot guns, and there were plenty of other attractive women in the film but that's about all I can say for it.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Jaer on July 31, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
I just watched this the other night, and it is kind of blowing my mind. I've been searching around online, looking to see what other people thought, and the most resounding opinion was either it was stupid dribble or that the action scenes and eye candy make it worth it.

But to me, it's so much deeper than I expected! Yes, I am being serious.


Despite the main set-up of the movie, Sweet Pea is the main protagonist, not Baby Doll.

She tells us this in the scene in the beginning where they are acting out the lobotomy scene on stage. Sweet Pea even says something to the effect of, "Isn't this supposed to be sexy? How can you think this is sexy? It's sick!" She's pretty much talking directly to the viewer.

She says something like "This is my story." And then she walks away from the scene--a show of her own escape.

And interestingly, she calls out the "school girl" outfit as being a sex symbol, one she gets--but no one has worn one yet because Baby only just entered the fantasy world. She had not appeared in her school girl outfit.

Sweet Pea is also the narrator. She tells us in the beginning that we have angels that show us we are strong enough to fight; these angels can take the form of anyone, an old man one day (Wiseman/bus driver), young girl (Baby) the next. Baby was the angel showing Sweet Pea she was strong enough to fight. It was Sweet Pea's victory to escape. Sweet Pea is the one hesitant to escape, the one trying to reign in the plan--she needs her angel to give her the strength to do it. The Wiseman says to her "Sweet Pea, I'm glad you changed your mind." Yeah, because the entire escape is for her.

Baby is fantasizing at the end about Sweet Pea's escape and bus ride (or it looks like she is--the sky and scenery do have a fantasy element), but we know Sweet Pea escaped because the doctor in the world of the asylum tells us that there was a fire, a stabbing, and an escape. There is no mention of the escaped girl being recaptured.

There is also no mention of anyone dying. In the world of the asylum, there is no mention of Rocket, Amber, or Blondie's death. I don't think they died in "real life"--the asylum. They died in the fantasy world of the Club because they weren't strong enough to escape--perhaps they had real mental issues that kept them inside. Baby says to her just before she gets out: "Sweet Pea, you're the strongest. You're the only one of us who ever had a chance out there."

Basically, Sweet Pea is the only sane one of the five, the one who doesn't belong there. She is in there because she followed her sister in to keep her safe.

Baby gets lobotomized, but is OK with it because she helped Sweet Pea escape and it will be a lasting fantasy world for her, the fantasy of Sweet Pea's life outside, then having to maintain her fantasy of the harsh life of the club.

Yeah, this movie struck a cord and has been reverberating in my head for a few days. I'm sure most people wouldn't give it a second thought, but man, I was expecting a shallow piece of eye-candy action and got sucker punched.

Jaer


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on July 31, 2012, 01:59:34 PM
Well said! This movie is much more existential than most of these Philistines realize!!!!!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: major jay on July 31, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
I just thought I would mention that I just watched the entire movie for the fourth time . . . this is the greatest film in the history of cinema.  I am changing my religion from Christian (Baptist) to Christian (Punchologist)! :teddyr:

That sounds like the true definition of a cult movie.
You really have my interest up for this. I'll try to watch with an open mind.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Psycho Circus on July 31, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
I'll try to watch with an open mind.

Yeah, like Ray Liotta in Hannibal!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on November 20, 2012, 07:43:30 PM
I finally got to see the alternate ending of this movie, and WOW!!  The closing scene with the high roller made me cry.  It made the theatrical ending much easier to understand.  When I graduate to BLURAY I am going to have to get the Director's Cut of this movie . . . and sleep with it under my pillow when I am not watching it!!!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: claws on November 21, 2012, 07:48:21 AM
Thanks to Indy I finally put the Sucker Punch Blu-ray on my price tracker. Surprisingly enough there have been six (!) Sucker Punch Blu-ray releases in Germany so far.

08/05/11:

(http://images.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/54907_large.jpg)(http://images3.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/24241_large.jpg)(http://images2.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/24329_large.jpg)

12/02/11:

(http://images2.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/50795_large.jpg)

09/07/12:

(http://images4.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/50151_large.jpg)

11/30/12:

(http://images3.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/57106_large.jpg)

I'm tracking the last one ...


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Jim H on November 29, 2012, 08:42:52 PM
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The DVD seems to be the Theatrical Release. The Blu-Ray package includes the extended cut in both Blu-Ray and DVD plus a digital version. What the hell? Someone is either going to buy the blu-ray or the dvd. Who the hell is going to buy both? It makes no sense. I'm not spending $25 to buy three discs if I'm only going to watch one.

They do this largely because many people have multiple DVD players but only a single Blu-Ray player.  That's how our household has it - the Blu-Ray player is on the main living room TV, but if I ever want to watch a Blu-Ray in the basement or in any of the three bedrooms, I'm SOL.  It's actually a nice option for those in similar situations, not to mention if you ever need to watch it on the go anywhere.

I thought I'd post here and say I saw about 15 minutes of Sucker Punch and I thought it bordered on unwatchable.  Terrible action scenes with no weight, incredibly generic visuals, super false feeling (I know it's not real, but the extremeness of the fakiness of everything I just found pulling me out of the picture - it was like watching a pre-vis SFX sequence, or worse yet watching Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow).  I might give it a go again at some point, but wow.  The film also came across as exploitive in a bad way, though I'll reserve total judgement on that score as I didn't see that much of the film.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on December 28, 2012, 01:03:46 AM
I watched the movie for the fifth time tonight, and I got to witness the defloration of a SUCKER PUNCH virgin - my friend Jerry is spending the night and he had never seen the film. I don't think he will ever forget it!! Once more I am overwhelmed with love and admiration for Zack Snyder for making this wonderful cinematic LSD trip of a movie!

If Pablo Picasso, Heironymous Bosch, and Ed Wood collaborated on a movie, they might make something almost as good as SUCKER PUNCH.  But it would not be anywhere near as bizarre.


Have I mentioned that I really like this movie??? :teddyr:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Rictras Shard on December 28, 2012, 08:22:12 AM
I couldn't make it through thirty minutes of this dreck. I can't remember the last time I was this disapointed about a movie.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on December 28, 2012, 09:07:59 PM
Not everyone appreciates Zombie Triplane Existentialist philosophy!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: claws on December 29, 2012, 12:27:16 AM
Every time I'm about to give this a go another negative opinion pops up and I abandon my viewing plans  :bouncegiggle:



Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Pilgermann on December 29, 2012, 01:09:34 AM
So I'm pretty sure I hated this movie.  I saw the blu-ray on sale for $5.00 and I kept feeling compelled to buy it.  I did.  It's the extended cut so maybe it's better?  Perhaps I was in the wrong mood when I saw it?  Maybe my love of Carla Gugino guided me?  I don't know, but it's still unopened and I'm still unsure of it.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Jaer on January 09, 2013, 04:47:02 PM
I watched the movie for the fifth time tonight, and I got to witness the defloration of a SUCKER PUNCH virgin - my friend Jerry is spending the night and he had never seen the film. I don't think he will ever forget it!! Once more I am overwhelmed with love and admiration for Zack Snyder for making this wonderful cinematic LSD trip of a movie!

If Pablo Picasso, Heironymous Bosch, and Ed Wood collaborated on a movie, they might make something almost as good as SUCKER PUNCH.  But it would not be anywhere near as bizarre.


Have I mentioned that I really like this movie??? :teddyr:

We're still the only ones!

I will admit, that if you watch just a snip of this movie, that would likely be the action scenes, and those do make it look like a CGI girl-exploiting action-fest. But, as I posted before, I find a lot more depth in the in-between, in the play of realities. I rewatched this with my wife a while back, and still found it haunting. She was confused by it, but overall enjoyed it--but then when I started explaining my view, she was impressed by the depth of the layers of reality that she hadn't considered.

If you don't want to give the movie that consideration for whatever reason, fine. But it is there.

I've talked about the movie to a few people--most of whom didn't give it much thought and passed it off as just an action flick. I usually begin the discussion with this:

The scene at the end has the lead psychologist recount all of Baby's actions in the hospital. At no time does she mention any girls dying. Orderly Blue (as opposed to Club Owner Blue) does not have the power to kill three girls and then disappear them out of the hospital. So in the real world, those three girls did not die. What happened to them? Why did they "die" in the club fantasy?

That usually sparks some interesting consideration. Realizing that not everything that happened in the club matches 1-to-1 with what happened in the hospital is the beginning.

If you really care to consider it.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on November 24, 2013, 10:44:26 PM
I finally watched the extended Director's Cut of this movie tonight.
What an incredible film!  I's about 20 minutes longer, with extended fight scenes (especially the one with the orcs and the dragon!), plus a big musical number at Blue's "club" and a great dialogue between Baby Doll and the High Roller that really puts the ending of the movie in perspective.  My love for this movie remains undiminished after six viewings now, and the extended cut made it even better.

I understand that different people have different tastes, and that not everyone can love this film as much as I do.

Poor people.  I feel sorry for them!

SUCKER PUNCH rocks!!!!!!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: messedup on December 15, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
Stayed away from this movie for a long time, but finally decided to watch it about a month ago.
Just wow...wouldn't say this is Snyders best movie...far from it, but it's just so damn fun. Would have loved to see this in a packed theater with some buddies. Not to forget the phenomenal Soundtrack.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Javakoala on January 20, 2014, 12:52:37 AM
I finally watched this tonight.

For years, I have held The Matrix as a marker for the depths of wasted money, time and technical ability. Before that, it was The Lost Boys. Then I watched Man Of Steel, but it only held the low water mark for a few weeks.

Sucker Punch is the new low mark. Irritating, vapid, bloated, tedious...I don't even want this thing in my apartment. If my current girlfriend doesn't want it, it will be the first movie that I have ever put into the shredder.

After sitting through this, 300, Man Of Steel and the unneeded remake of Dawn Of The Dead, I do not feel the need to ever watch Watchmen. I used to hate Tony Scott as a director, but his worthless drivel is Oscar-worthy compared to Zach Snyder. I'm tempted to suggest Snyder follow in Scott's footsteps, but I wouldn't want to divert the police and cleanup crews from more useful work.

I went to IMDb to see...I don't know, SOMETHING to ease the headache this movie caused. People started talking about "layers on top of layers". Diarrhea layered over impacted stool?

I'm going back to my crap movies from the 80s and earlier. At least back then they KNEW they were creating crap and didn't try to justify awfulness as art.

Indy, I have great respect for you, but this is one movie I will have to agree to disagree on. I know this is a massive favorite of yours.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on January 20, 2014, 09:39:30 AM
Sometimes one viewing is simply not enough.  If you watch it five or six more times, you will be enlightened.
Come . . . join us . . . . we all float down here! :teddyr: :cheers:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Javakoala on January 20, 2014, 09:59:34 AM
Sometimes one viewing is simply not enough.  If you watch it five or six more times, you will be enlightened.
Come . . . join us . . . . we all float down here! :teddyr: :cheers:

Thanks for the offer, but if I have to chose between watching this (at this point, ANY Zach Snyder film) and blowing up the world, y'all better kiss yer butts goodbye.

And given my thoughts on this movie, I know what else is floating with you down there. I'll throw you a gas mask, Indy!  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on January 20, 2014, 11:29:43 AM
"To those who fight for it, life has a flavor that the sheltered will never taste."


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Javakoala on January 20, 2014, 01:33:54 PM
"To those who fight for it, life has a flavor that the sheltered will never taste."

Nice try, Indy. Given that line may have been written by Zach Snyder, I wouldn't lend it much much credibility. When he has to hock all his worldly goods to make a movie that no one believes in, I might buy it.

I must say it was good to see Scott Glenn in a fairly substantial role. There, I said something nice about the movie. Stop trying to assimilate me into the Borg/Sucker Punch Hive.  :twirl:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on January 20, 2014, 05:47:33 PM
Resistance is futile.

"You have all the weapons you need.  NOW FIGHT!" :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Javakoala on January 20, 2014, 08:27:26 PM
Indy, did you just suggest I use my skills to start a grassroots campaign to get Hollywood to blacklist Zach Snyder? That's the best idea I've heard.

Thank you, sir!   :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on January 20, 2014, 11:37:34 PM
Just wait till after he finishes SUCKER PUNCH II.

Please!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Javakoala on January 20, 2014, 11:43:37 PM
Just wait till after he finishes SUCKER PUNCH II.

Please!

You have just destroyed my will to live, Indy.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Trevor on January 21, 2014, 03:59:43 AM
I've been sucker punched but I've never seen the movie.

The poster looks good, though: :wink:

(http://www.kungfucinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/suckerpunchuk-200x276.jpg)


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Ticonderoga 64 on April 15, 2014, 08:54:33 AM
When all is said and done, it's a glorified b-movie, however it's a b-movie with scantily-clad girls fighting monsters, robots and zombies and THAT'S a good thing! :wink:


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on April 15, 2014, 05:01:26 PM
With a heavy dose of existentialist post-feminist zombie triplane philosophy thrown in to boot!!!


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: Javakoala on April 15, 2014, 07:48:24 PM
And boredom and stupidity and cliches and style over substance and intelligence insulting characters/story/psuedo-philosophy and bloated CGI and an overrated director who should find the same bridge Tony Scott used and...I need to take an acid bath with a wire brush for just having thought about this mess of a movie again.

For those of you who might misread my comments: I F%#&ING HATED THIS MOVIE!

But I respect Indy's right to enjoy it. I still think he's misguided, but he has cute goats, so he gets bonus points for that.


Title: Re: Your Thoughts on Sucker Punch
Post by: indianasmith on April 15, 2014, 10:11:23 PM
And I still love Javakoala, no matter how misguided and incorrect his perceptions of this masterpiece may be.

I said it before, I will say it again:  Throw away your Picassos.  SUCKER PUNCH is the only art you will ever need! :teddyr: