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Title: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: venomx on March 05, 2011, 11:33:04 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/05/exclusive-nasa-scientists-claims-evidence-alien-life-meteorite/

Exclusive: NASA Scientist Claims Evidence of Alien Life on Meteorite

Cool stuff.

Maybe toys can cash in lol, Hasbro. My 1st alien... hehe


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Doc Daneeka on March 05, 2011, 12:40:42 PM
*faints*


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Doggett on March 05, 2011, 02:37:37 PM
I'm not sure I'm with with this.

Don't get me wrong, I want to believe, but if this is true then this news would be all over the globe right now.

Still, pretty amazing stuff.  :smile:


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 05, 2011, 06:33:49 PM
Revolutionary, if true.

I'm sure the skeptics will have their say in the coming weeks and months.  As they should.  I'm a skeptic, myself.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: venomx on March 05, 2011, 07:30:09 PM
Such a vast universe... SO vast... billions and billions of stars...

I dont think were the only livings things out there.

IMO - its vain when man says were the only ones.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: theedinburghbteam on March 05, 2011, 07:57:54 PM
This is awesome. However, being a disciple of ATS.com, it has trained me to always check the source. And when Fox news is the only place broadcasting something, you have to wonder about the truth.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Nukie 2 on March 05, 2011, 10:38:00 PM
Eh, it's some piece of crap microbe-- bah, who cares!


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 05, 2011, 10:43:46 PM
Eh, it's some piece of crap microbe-- bah, who cares!

You're kidding??


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Nukie 2 on March 05, 2011, 11:00:42 PM
Eh, it's some piece of crap microbe-- bah, who cares!

You're kidding??

It can't transform into a ball of light; fly around moon; compose disco music out of thin air; shoot fireworks from it's fingers, or talk to chimpanzee's. In short who cares! Wake me up when they rediscover that Nukie alien, when we bring it to Earth I got a sequel to talk to them about and a merchandising deal for a kiddie's nicotine energy drink.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: venomx on March 07, 2011, 09:20:14 AM
"shoot fireworks from it's fingers" That b cool, lol.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: The Gravekeeper on March 07, 2011, 11:06:38 AM
I wouldn't be surprised either way. If it's a false alarm or even a flat-out hoax, well, we've seen plenty of those. If it's real, well, the odds are in favor of there being life somewhere else in the universe, what with it being so mind-blowingly vast.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 07, 2011, 01:33:44 PM
If true, this is a huge, huge discovery.  Consider the infinitesimally small amount of interstellar matter we've been able to study from comets and meteorites.  To find any vestige of life from such a tiny, tiny sample is staggering.  It could imply life is more likely to evolve spontaneously than we thought by several orders of magnitude.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: venomx on March 08, 2011, 10:03:05 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/03/07/alien-life-meteorites-skeptics-believers-weigh/?test=latestnews

"Alien Life in Meteorites: 'Remarkable Achievement' or 'Garbage'?"

Update.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Doggett on March 08, 2011, 11:04:14 AM
This is amazing.

I checked the science stories on the BBC's website and...nothing.

This could really be Earth shattering news.
Can someone explian why this isn't getting more attention?

"The ad hominem attacks and complaints by those [that] say Dr. Hoover's article should have been published in these other periodicals, and not JOC, are just sour grapes and should not be taken seriously," she Tao said
I agree with her.
I think NASA is just annoyed that they didn't pick up on this. It might make them look bad. Is NASA government funded ?


They look pretty darn similar to me !
(http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/604/341/actual%20bacterium.jpg)
ALIENS!

Okay, small and long since dead ones.... But still...

ALIENS!


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: venomx on March 08, 2011, 01:42:39 PM
It is huge discovery, I agree. I hope to see and read more about this in days to come.

I have a question... how would you feel if aliens in ufos landed on Earth tomorrow?

1. Thrilled/Happy (we may learn good and helpful info!)
2. Scared as $h!t (we hope its not like Independence Day!)
3. Un-FN-believable! (I must be dreaming, its a hoax!)

I pick two... 1 and 2. :wink:


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 08, 2011, 02:09:47 PM
It is strange that results of this magnitude were published in a controversial online-only journal rather than in major publication like Science.  This is looking a lot less promising. 

Doggett: NASA is government funded.  But Hoover works for NASA, so they would be behind this 2000%, unless they thought there was something wrong with the study that could embarrass the organization.

My already high skepticism level just jumped another several notches. 

To answer Venomx: I'll take 2).


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: venomx on March 08, 2011, 02:21:32 PM
I don't blame you for picking "2"

Stephen Hawking...

The 68-year-old scientist said a visit by extraterrestrials to Earth would be like Christopher Columbus arriving in the Americas, "which didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans."


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Doggett on March 08, 2011, 05:55:27 PM
Doggett: NASA is government funded.  But Hoover works for NASA, so they would be behind this 2000%, unless they thought there was something wrong with the study that could embarrass the organization.


Ah.

I thought he worked for some univercity or other independant organisation.

I would've thought thats why NASA has been trying to sit on it for a while. As it could make them look bad that a small fry scientist has found evidence of alien life while a huge tax payer organisation like NASA couldn't. It could make politicians question if they're spending their money correctly come budget time.

I still can't get over how exciting this is.  :teddyr:

VenomX: 3.
Although I hope its not a hoax. And unless alien microbes are zombies, I have nothing to fear from the fossil. :teddyr:


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: RCMerchant on March 08, 2011, 06:11:09 PM
It is huge discovery, I agree. I hope to see and read more about this in days to come.

I have a question... how would you feel if aliens in ufos landed on Earth tomorrow?

1. Thrilled/Happy (we may learn good and helpful info!)
2. Scared as $h!t (we hope its not like Independence Day!)
3. Un-FN-believable! (I must be dreaming, its a hoax!)

I pick two... 1 and 2. :wink:

I'd pick #1. If they were evil,they would have killed us long ago. It would show these idiot fundamentilists (of ALL religions) that they aint they center of their God's creation. Actually-mebbe not. They'll call it Satan's coming-Armageddon or something.
 I hope aliens come and we start s**t with them-give humanity a little humility. Then we'll know how the buffalo felt.

Meanwhile-back in the real world....
I hope it's true. I DO believe. It seems the height of egotism to think we are the only life in a neverending universe.
I'm sure deep ocean fish freak when we drop in once in awhile. 


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: JaseSF on March 08, 2011, 08:44:40 PM
As long as they don't turn into the Creeping Unknown....


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 08, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
I thought the REV's remarks about how unlikely it would be for a meteorite from the vast wastes of space to include evidence of extraterrestrial life - and how monumentally profound if true - finding its way to Earth (a rock from another world !! through intergalactic cataclysm and inconceivable measures of time) would seem so nearly impossible that IF TRUE would  infer by its sheer unlikelihood a universe teeming with life...


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Nukie 2 on March 08, 2011, 09:28:04 PM
I thought the REV's remarks about how unlikely it would be for a meteorite from the vast wastes of space to include evidence of extraterrestrial life - and how monumentally profound if true - finding its way to Earth (a rock from another world !! through intergalactic cataclysm and inconceivable measures of time) would seem so nearly impossible that IF TRUE would  infer by its sheer unlikelihood a universe teeming with life...

That means "Nukie" was a documentary!


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: venomx on March 08, 2011, 09:35:01 PM
(http://i54.tinypic.com/ixegt3.jpg)


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 08, 2011, 11:44:09 PM
So... you ridicule the profundity of our revelation...?  :question:


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: RCMerchant on March 09, 2011, 01:38:42 AM
So... you ridicule the profundity of our revelation...?  :question:
Awright-Hallows. Your my freind. But latley your posts are so esotiric I have no clue of what your trying to say.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Nukie 2 on March 09, 2011, 09:25:17 AM
So... you ridicule the profundity of our revelation...?  :question:

I thought you just posted them! :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Doc Daneeka on March 09, 2011, 10:40:11 AM
It is huge discovery, I agree. I hope to see and read more about this in days to come.

I have a question... how would you feel if aliens in ufos landed on Earth tomorrow?

1. Thrilled/Happy (we may learn good and helpful info!)
2. Scared as $h!t (we hope its not like Independence Day!)
3. Un-FN-believable! (I must be dreaming, its a hoax!)

I pick two... 1 and 2. :wink:
No matter the circumstances 3 at first; once it got verified then 1 or 2 is a 50-50 chance.

Does Hawking acknowledge that evolving on another planet, possibly under different circumstances could give aliens motivations for landing on other planets besides imperialism? Just because the majority view of human behavior is a pessimistic one, emphasizing our selfish tendencies, it doesn't mean that extraterrestrials would have the same psychology. With that in mind though, they could just as easily turn out to be much worse beings than we are. We've got no evidence for either argument, as we don't even know they exist.

I do suppose how vastly our communication could differ might lead to the more pessimistic stance, but then if aliens managed space travel to such an extent, they could very well be unsurprised by some very unfamiliar customs and the like. If they have such a high intelligence level that they equate us to animals it could likewise pose a problem, but such a high intelligence level that they dismiss complex-machine/program-creating beings as animalistic would go to suggest they'd be arriving in ships made of light particles or something.


Title: Re: There you have it, alien life...
Post by: Newt on March 09, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
It is strange that results of this magnitude were published in a controversial online-only journal rather than in major publication like Science.  This is looking a lot less promising. 


Indeed.  From a statement issued by NASA:

“NASA is a scientific and technical agency committed to a culture of openness with the media and public. While we value the free exchange of ideas, data and information as part of scientific and technical inquiry, NASA cannot stand behind or support a scientific claim unless it has been peer-reviewed or thoroughly examined by other qualified experts. This paper was submitted in 2007 to the International Journal of Astrobiology. However, the peer review process was not completed for that submission. NASA also was unaware of the recent submission of the paper to the Journal of Cosmology or of the paper’s subsequent publication. Additional questions should be directed to the author of the paper.”

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2011/03/07/alien-life-discovered-not-so-fast-says-nasa-msnbc/