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Title: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: 66Crush on March 26, 2011, 08:07:44 PM
I've seen alot of horror movies in my day and it seems like just about everything has been done already. What do think has never been done in horror movie? What's something you would like to see? What would you pay hard earned money for? And what would scare the living crap out of you?


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Rev. Powell on March 26, 2011, 09:26:37 PM
What's something you would like to see? What would you pay hard earned money for? And what would scare the living crap out of you?

A well-done story.  I'm sick of shock gimmicks.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: spongekryst on March 26, 2011, 11:29:50 PM
Extensive research should be conducted on the base of fear. I want a movie where hope is a complete illusion. It is sort of hard to describe exactly what I'm talking about.

I enjoy scaring myself, because most movies have failed to do so since I was little. I often imagine everyday people and occurances in a warped, one track embodiment of my demise, such as a woman screaming in the distance and no matter what I do she walks up to me and rips my skin off. Similar things have been done before, but I think it all depends on how you represent it; Horror is too positive anymore.

True horror from the good ol' days (and rarely now) was bleak, devoid of hope, and utterly sinister. I love horror comedies, but I too wish to be given nightmares.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: claws on March 27, 2011, 01:12:32 AM
They will eventually find a new way to scare audience and do something that has never been done before. It only takes time.

I've had this idea for a slasher for the longest time: a killer strikes during a traffic jam on a "lonely" stretch of road, with cars stuck bumper to bumper partially on a bridge.
Could work when done right.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: spongekryst on April 01, 2011, 10:29:18 AM
How a story about a man who actually WANTS to be in a horror movie? He constantly drives out to no man's land with little gas, no cell phone, no gun, and no spare tire; only to be help by nice country folk, not inbred, cannibal freaks. At home he leaves all of his doors unlocked and windows open. He experiments with the occult and mad science, but somehow always ends up okay. He starts to lose it, so he gets desperate and tries drugs, still nothing. What can he do to make his life interesting?

The lengths he'll go may be the most shocking part. I don't know what it would be, but at that point it could be as extreme as the director can make it.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: akiratubo on April 01, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
Everything that can be done in a movie has already been done.  At best, a filmmaker can only hope to use the same old tricks in a well-executed manner.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: The Burgomaster on April 01, 2011, 01:24:37 PM
I'd like to see the killer get shot and actually die rather than waking up and grabbing someone's ankle.



Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Flick James on April 01, 2011, 02:24:31 PM
Well, there's Thankskilling (involving a homicidal turkey) and the Gingerdead Man (involving a homicidal gingerbread cookie) movies, all within the last 6 years, so nobody can say that they aren't trying new things.

 :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: 66Crush on April 02, 2011, 07:36:45 PM
As a bad movie fan, I love "Thankskilling." But it does kind of prove that Hollywood is out of ideas. I liked the idea about guy trying to live life like a horror movie, that was pretty good.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: WildHoosier09 on April 02, 2011, 07:39:15 PM
I'd like to see the killer get shot and actually die rather than waking up and grabbing someone's ankle.



Good idea, would be refreshing. There was one of the "scream" sequels (I think Scream II) that did a variation of this where the bad guy gets a pistol shot to the chest and the good characters are discussing whether he is actually dead and one of them says "in a horror movie typically this is when the bad guy gets back up" then the girl shoots him in the middle of the forehead and says "not in my horror movie" good ending and he is dead.

Of course people staying injured (including the bad guy) would also be new and unique. Typically healing takes only a few poorly edited cuts to occur and magically the guy with a broken leg is walking around normaly.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: voltron on April 04, 2011, 07:15:59 PM
I'd like to see a movie where everyone dies - including the killer.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Chainsawmidget on April 05, 2011, 03:32:38 AM
The masked psycho goes around cutting of people's wieners.  

Now there's something to be afraid of.  Pretty sure nobody has done that.  


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: claws on April 05, 2011, 03:34:35 AM
Not sure anybody wants to see that either  :wink: except feminists maybe  :teddyr:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: 66Crush on April 05, 2011, 09:53:59 AM
Believe it or not there is an old "Miami Vice" episode where a woman seduces men and cuts off they're penises. Of course they never showed the act, but they did make reference to it.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Rev. Powell on April 05, 2011, 02:10:28 PM
The masked psycho goes around cutting of people's wieners.  

Now there's something to be afraid of.  Pretty sure nobody has done that.  


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/ISpitOnYourGraveposter.jpg)

Not masked and it was only one victim, still...


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: RCMerchant on April 05, 2011, 06:04:14 PM
The masked psycho goes around cutting of people's wieners.  

Now there's something to be afraid of.  Pretty sure nobody has done that.  


([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07/ISpitOnYourGraveposter.jpg[/url])

Not masked and it was only one victim, still...

Bigfoot ripped off some shmucks weiner in NIGHT OF THE DEMON, and Mom bit one off in the 1st LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT also...
I was thinking about this all day... find a good horror short story by Shirly Jackson or Clive Barker mebbe....I honestly dont know!


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: 66Crush on April 05, 2011, 08:39:39 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot  in "Hostel 2" there's a weiner decapitation.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Couchtr26 on April 05, 2011, 09:05:36 PM
I'm not sure but perhaps if one were to explore much better the idea of complete isolation and the horrors of the effect.  I'm almost positive this has been done before so I'm not sure how valid but can't recall any movies to explore it.  The effects on the mind and one where the person confronts their own inside without any other character interaction.  You could also try something along the lines of space and deal with subjects such as a serial killer there or the effects of a single murder and how this leads to doubt and mistrust and the who done it.  I don't think any are particularly good but can't really think of much new.  There is always something new, if not in concept, angle.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: El Misfit on April 05, 2011, 09:09:50 PM
I like to see the killer get rolled over a steam roller! :teddyr:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: LilCerberus on April 05, 2011, 09:14:33 PM
Chiggers?
Poison Ivy?

I've seen it done in comedies, but I don't recall any horrors.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: RCMerchant on April 06, 2011, 04:47:49 AM
.OK-it's the not so distant future. A virus (from outer space or something) has infected every female in the world,turning them into ape-sh!t maniacs.
 
.Idea 2-It's the end of the world-the Apocalypse! Demons and Angels are on Earth fighting the war to end all wars. Untill it's over,humans are stuck in the middle-some taking sides with God,others with Satan. Most are justing running like cockroaches.

.Nother one-All the fish in the sea grow limbs or wings and crawl out of the sea and fish for humans.

.Ok-here's my best shot-GHOST APOCALYPSE-The whole world is hit with poltergeist activity-frogs and stones fall from the sky-people are attacked by furniture and kitchen utensils-spirits are roaming the earth scaring sh!t outta the populace. Ultra psychic people are the earths only hope! Can they send the threat back to the spirit world?

Ok-pretty lame-that's why I'm a factory worker-not a screenwriter.  :lookingup:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2011, 06:34:05 AM
You could do the Biblical plagues of Egypt, as experienced by an innocent Egyptian couple, and horror that up pretty well.

The Epic of Gilgamesh has a lot of material that would make good horror movies.

How about a story set on Noah's Ark?  That could be pretty scary, with the whole world being covered in water and maybe some supernatural God stuff and animals getting loose.

You can make almost anything into a horror movie, it's all in how you do it.

There really aren't very many horror movies set in ancient times.  Lots of cheesy stuff loosely based on some creature from myth, but it's almost all set in the modern day.

Maybe some grave robbers breaking into a pyramid to steal all the Pharaoh's gold (in 2500 BC), but encountering a supernatural curse.  That's been done in a lot of mummy movies, but it would be easy enough to take it in a completely different direction. 



Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Trevor on April 06, 2011, 07:07:59 AM
The masked psycho goes around cutting of people's wieners.  

Now there's something to be afraid of.  Pretty sure nobody has done that.  

The killer in The Detective did that, as did the killer in The Shadowed Mind.  :buggedout: :buggedout:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Derf on April 06, 2011, 07:14:35 AM
.OK-it's the not so distant future. A virus (from outer space or something) has infected every female in the world,turning them into ape-sh!t maniacs.
 

Are you sure we'd be able to tell the difference?  :tongueout:

Kidding!


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: LilCerberus on April 06, 2011, 10:50:40 AM
Okay, so...
A bunch of teenagers go camping.
They all get chiggers & poison ivy, and the canned beans make them nauseous.
Nothing really to be worried about, but it's their first camping trip, so they don't really know what's going on...
Thus, the seeds of doubt & suspicion begin to grow, making for a really formulaic psychological thriller.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: retrorussell on April 06, 2011, 01:55:22 PM
We need more movies where the killer is undoubtedly human, i.e. makes mistakes, gets frustrated when their plan doesn't go smoothly, etc.  Like Hitchcock's FRENZY.

Something that might be interesting is if there's only one actor in the film.  They play about 20 characters or so.  It might be kind of funny to see them play both genders, maybe even dress up as a dog!  :teddyr:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: WildHoosier09 on April 06, 2011, 07:29:56 PM
as for the weiner loss: my mind immediately goes to Reanimator 3. Towards the end the main chick bites off the cock of the evil prison warden. Of course by this time frame they are both reanimated zombies but they have a pretty funny closing credits in which the decapitated (but still "alive" from the serum) weiner is chasing a rat around the prison. Not quite the same but concept is similar.

I kindof liked the twist in "high tension" where the primary female protagonist who is trying to rescue the girl she has a crush on actually turns out to be the bad-guy (severe split-personality). Also here is where we learn that people don't kill people but repressed lesbian desires do. I thought that was a bit unique.

I know a new idea for a horror film, how about a film by Lion's Gate that uses less than their corporate pre-requisite of 50 gallons of fake blood. That would be unique.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Chainsawmidget on April 07, 2011, 03:43:57 PM
A typical machete wielding masked slasher goes to stalk and kill a few teens, only to find out that one of the teens has already becomes the victim of one of those classic Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman teams, which leads up to a huge turf war between old school monsters and modern slashers with the rest of the town caught in the middle.   


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Newt on April 07, 2011, 04:51:12 PM
A typical machete wielding masked slasher goes to stalk and kill a few teens, only to find out that one of the teens has already becomes the victim of one of those classic Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman teams, which leads up to a huge turf war between old school monsters and modern slashers with the rest of the town caught in the middle.   

You know...I'd watch that!


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: 66Crush on April 07, 2011, 06:03:39 PM
I like all of RC's ideas, maybe you should be a screenwritter. Every idea I can think of has been done. I love all the horny teens getting killed in the woods movies, but that's been done to death. So have all the tourture films like "Saw" and "Hostel." Maybe we should go back to the old monster movie formula. I would like to see a new generation of iconic monsters. But in this day and age people don't find creatures as frightening as real people. In fact that's why I don't find horror movies scary, as much as I love them, because the real world is a much scarrier place than the fantasy world.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: El Misfit on April 08, 2011, 07:27:38 AM
when someone gets shot in the head/ heart, they die instantly! it's friggen logic DAMMIT! :hatred:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Trekkie313 on April 09, 2011, 12:36:00 AM
when someone gets shot in the head/ heart, they die instantly! it's friggen logic DAMMIT! :hatred:

Machetes work quiet well.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: spongekryst on April 09, 2011, 10:55:14 PM
I'd like to see a group of tabletop role playing gamers, real ones, not the spastic, sniveling stereotypes, confront some menace and deal with it an intelligent, well planned fashion and defeat it.

I'd also love to see a bunch of D&D players torment and terrorize a group of cool, good looking people who had abused and harassed them for years.

I'm sensing some hostility here...straight up!
NERD LIFE HOMIE!


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: LilCerberus on April 10, 2011, 12:06:33 AM
Contaminated beans cause a group of hillbillies to be very unpleasant around...
...Right before they explode.

A group of b-movie lovers try to sit through the complete works of (Insert Lousy Director Here) until their heads start bursting open and their brains try to make a break for it.

Everyone suddenly notices the trees are staring at them.

The sound of movements in a man's intestines begins to form words & phrases, until satanic voices start coming out of his posterior.

A hungover college student wakes up to find he's wearing roller skates.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Britorama Rob on April 10, 2011, 12:18:24 AM
Night of the Living Busey
Fly-on-the-Wall documentary following Gary Busey on a drunken bender in Topeka, Kansas focusing nthe pain and anguish he causes to the denizens of a typical Middle American town. Meta-twist, Busey is the filmmaker and treats himself in the third person.


Red Blood, Blue Grass
A prize race horse becomes a vampire during the build-up to the Kentucky Derby. Writes itself.


Djinn Hunter
Islamic Van Helsing battles daemons in modern-day Iran


On a more serious note - I've long had a story idea based around a detective chasing a serial killer during the dying days of Nazi Germany. Basically hinging on the irony of investigating a handful of murders while thousands die all around due to combat, famine, political execution etc. Arguably more grim than scary but that's my two cents.


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: indianasmith on April 10, 2011, 12:40:28 AM
What if there were a movie about people's clothes turning against them?

Not in a "ha ha funny Trevor's underpants" way either.  I mean - what if men's ties suddenly started strangling them?  And ladies' blouses suddenly stuffed themselves down their throats and choked them?  I mean, we all have closets FULL of clothes . . . some we love to wear, some we don't.  But imagine ALL of them animated by some evil, malevolent force bent on destroying all humanity! Properly handled, that could be scary as HECK!!!


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: El Misfit on April 10, 2011, 12:34:40 PM
Indy- That's pure Platinum Cheese! I like it! :cheers:

Let's see, how bout a robotic shark and robotic octopus goes around killing people. then there'll be a robotic whale and a robotic dolphin saving the day, but kills more people! :twirl: :twirl: PLATINUM CHEESE AT IT'S FINEST!!!!


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Psycho Circus on April 10, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
Let's see, how bout a robotic shark and robotic octopus goes around killing people.

I've always thought about something like that. You could even use Peter Benchley's "White Shark" as the basis for a decent screenplay. But, in reality electronics and water don't mix, then there's rust and the suspension of disbelief plus budget constraints won't cover it. I suppose there is always CGI......... :lookingup:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Doggett on April 10, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
Let's see, how bout a robotic shark and robotic octopus goes around killing people.

I've always thought about something like that. You could even use Peter Benchley's "White Shark" as the basis for a decent screenplay. But, in reality electronics and water don't mix, then there's rust and the suspension of disbelief plus budget constraints won't cover it. I suppose there is always CGI......... :lookingup:

Robosharktopus...

Make it happen movie people!

 :teddyr:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: El Misfit on April 10, 2011, 01:25:06 PM
Let's see, how bout a robotic shark and robotic octopus goes around killing people.

I've always thought about something like that. You could even use Peter Benchley's "White Shark" as the basis for a decent screenplay. But, in reality electronics and water don't mix, then there's rust and the suspension of disbelief plus budget constraints won't cover it. I suppose there is always CGI......... :lookingup:
you can do that, or we can pull a STEEL- make the suit out of rubber! :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Couchtr26 on April 10, 2011, 04:28:00 PM
What if there were a movie about people's clothes turning against them?

Not in a "ha ha funny Trevor's underpants" way either.  I mean - what if men's ties suddenly started strangling them?  And ladies' blouses suddenly stuffed themselves down their throats and choked them?  I mean, we all have closets FULL of clothes . . . some we love to wear, some we don't.  But imagine ALL of them animated by some evil, malevolent force bent on destroying all humanity! Properly handled, that could be scary as HECK!!!

That actually reminds me of this old sketch comedy show The Edge.  Anyway, they had this bit: What ... is doing right this minute.  So, they had What Stephen King is doing right this minute.  He was trying to pitch a new book about killer oven mitts. 


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: RCMerchant on April 11, 2011, 05:15:08 AM
What if there were a movie about people's clothes turning against them?

Not in a "ha ha funny Trevor's underpants" way either.  I mean - what if men's ties suddenly started strangling them?  And ladies' blouses suddenly stuffed themselves down their throats and choked them?  I mean, we all have closets FULL of clothes . . . some we love to wear, some we don't.  But imagine ALL of them animated by some evil, malevolent force bent on destroying all humanity! Properly handled, that could be scary as HECK!!!

People would have to be nekkid!
That could be a good or bad thing...depending on the cast. I mean...who wants to see John Goodman nekkid? EWWW!


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Doggett on April 11, 2011, 06:10:18 PM
A killer tire movie !

Huh ?

Oh, you gotta be kidding...


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: Couchtr26 on April 11, 2011, 09:08:32 PM
Djinn Hunter
Islamic Van Helsing battles daemons in modern-day Iran


On a more serious note - I've long had a story idea based around a detective chasing a serial killer during the dying days of Nazi Germany. Basically hinging on the irony of investigating a handful of murders while thousands die all around due to combat, famine, political execution etc. Arguably more grim than scary but that's my two cents.

Those two actually show promise in a way.  If you have ever seen movies from islamic countries they tend to follow the same things that are popular here but culturally adapted.  Especially in alot of Turkish horror I have seen. 


Title: Re: What can be done in a horror film that's never been done before?
Post by: El Misfit on April 11, 2011, 10:47:41 PM
A killer tire movie !

Huh ?

Oh, you gotta be kidding...
yup, saw that too. :lookingup:

Is there a killer tank movie? :question: