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Title: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: akiratubo on June 17, 2011, 08:13:05 PM
Some parts of it are good, some parts of it feel very rushed, like they ran out of time, money, or both.  A lot of things just feel undeveloped.  Ryan Reynolds's performance is also rather odd.  For about half the movie, he's in full Van Wilder mode.  For the other half, he's actually trying.  Thing is, it's not like he's an immature jerk at the beginning and matures as the movie goes on.  His personality swings occur at random throughout the movie.  Could it be that no one had an idea how he should act until shooting was already well underway?

There are a lot of unnecessary scenes and one of the villains could have been chucked without affecting things that much.

On the plus side, the final battle is good, although the means by which the villain is defeated are rather lame.  (And why didn't anyone just do that the first time it attacked?)  The cosmic evil's attack on Earth has a higher body count than I was expecting.  The scenes on Oa with the Corps are very good, good enough to make you wonder why the rest of the movie kind of sucks.

I will say this: Green Lantern does a much better job than Superman Returns at portraying a superhuman hero and the cosmic menace is a lot better portrayed than Galactus was in Rise of the Silver Surfer.  Also, I wasn't throwing up my hands and thinking "What the hell is this crap?" at any point, unlike either of the Chris Nolan Batman movies.

Don't bother with a 3D showing, it doesn't add much to the movie, unless you think you would be really impressed by a monster's snout coming at you.

Oh, and there's kind of a huge plot hole involving what happens to some people the first time Hal uses the ring.  The movie would like you to forget they even existed, but don't you fall for it.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: Doggett on June 18, 2011, 06:35:35 AM
...the cosmic menace is a lot better portrayed than Galactus was in Rise of the Silver Surfer.  

Not hard considering that Galactus was just a big cloud...


 :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: InformationGeek on June 18, 2011, 03:04:56 PM
I'm seeing this in 47 minutes.  I'll be back later with my full opinion on this film.  I am a gigantic Green Lantern fan and I'll be the best judge to determine if this is a good adaption or not.  From what I hear, it's an okay movie, so I'll go in with that attitude.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on June 18, 2011, 04:02:41 PM
There again a film for which I've seen the trailer. Actually, both of them, and the second trailer actually made me want to see this film. That and I am a big fan of the Green Lantern as well. Therefore, needing something to do on Independence Day, when almost everything is closed, I might see it then.

I will say that the film critics for both of the major dailys in the area gave the film a mostly negative review. The critic for the daily down the road saying there was too much explanatory exposition at the start of the film which got in the way of some pretty good action at the end of the film. We'll see.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: The Burgomaster on June 18, 2011, 05:55:03 PM
I saw this today.  I thought it was very mediocre. 


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: InformationGeek on June 18, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
Back!

I really enjoyed this movie.  24% on Rotten Tomatoes my ass.  It was a fun silly comic book movie and I got what I wanted out of it.  The acting was good, but sometimes a little cheesy with some chuckle worthy cliche lines.  CGI was pretty good, though sometimes the effects don't always convince (It's got great visual style though).  The story was alright and enjoyable, with some plot holes like akiratubo mentioned.  Some solid fight scenes and enjoyable cast all the way.  Kind of amusing that Lex Luthor was voicing Parallax.  I also liked a lot of the movies spin on a couple of Green Lantern elements since they gave me what I wanted out of the movie.

I have the break my rating into 3 for this one:

6 out of 10 for those who probably might not be able to accept premise or a lot of the strange events that happens.

7 out of 10 for those who can accept everything and want a fun summer movie.

8 out of 10 for the fans, since they'll be able to enjoy this movie far more.

Go in with average expectations and I'm sure you'll be have a fun time.  Also, for those of you not a fan of CGI (We know who you are), stay away as far away as you can.  You'll be screaming in terror from the amount of computer effects this movie uses.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: WingedSerpent on June 19, 2011, 10:33:10 AM
Saw this last night, and I really liked it. It wasn't a perfect movie, but the flaws everyone is talking about weren't as movie destroying as they made them out to be.  It's not the Dark Night, and it's not supposed to be. I enjoyed it as much as Thor. More infact simply because I'm a big Green Lantern fan. 

Yes, I would have liked to have seen more of Sinestro and Killowog but the performances of Mark Strong and Michael Clark Duncan really made the breif amount of time they were on screen memorable.

The scenes on Oa were really cool.  I loved the all lantern rally and was able to point out several prominent ones like Saalak, Stel, Bzzrd, Olapet, and plenty that my friends didn't know. 

I liked the action, and while there were parts that lagged somewhat I never really found myself bored. There where plenty of parts I found myself really having fun with the movie. 

Parallax was cool.  I liked how he was still an recognizable intelligence instead of an esoteric force like Galactus in the FF movie.

I really hope there will be more.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: akiratubo on June 19, 2011, 10:38:36 AM
It's not the Dark Night, and it's not supposed to be.

It's actually a whole lot better than The Dark Knight.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: InformationGeek on June 19, 2011, 11:28:00 AM
It's not the Dark Night, and it's not supposed to be.


It's actually a whole lot better than The Dark Knight.


Gees, with all your anger and rage towards that film, you might as well... in fact...

akiratubo of Sector 2814, you have great anger in your heart.

(http://images.wikia.com/greenlantern/images/0/07/544973-rings_red_2007_12_26001copy_super.jpg)

I'm kidding.  I joke because I care.   :teddyr:


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: Hammock Rider on June 20, 2011, 11:45:29 AM
Back!

I really enjoyed this movie.  24% on Rotten Tomatoes my ass.  It was a fun silly comic book movie and I got what I wanted out of it.  The acting was good, but sometimes a little cheesy with some chuckle worthy cliche lines.  CGI was pretty good, though sometimes the effects don't always convince (It's got great visual style though).  The story was alright and enjoyable, with some plot holes like akiratubo mentioned.  Some solid fight scenes and enjoyable cast all the way.  Kind of amusing that Lex Luthor was voicing Parallax.  I also liked a lot of the movies spin on a couple of Green Lantern elements since they gave me what I wanted out of the movie.

Go in with average expectations and I'm sure you'll be have a fun time.  Also, for those of you not a fan of CGI (We know who you are), stay away as far away as you can.  You'll be screaming in terror from the amount of computer effects this movie uses.

  I agree. It was a fun time. I'm a Green Lantern fan from way back.  I've always thought of the Green Lantern as a kind of a fun lark book. It always reminded me of those old  50's tv shows, Captian Video and Rocky Jones and Space Patrol and the like. The Green Lanterns are the Texas Rangers of Space, and as such I just want some good action and fun out of a GL story. This one met those needs and I was happy with it.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: melvinthemopboy3 on June 21, 2011, 11:25:19 AM
Overall, I felt that this movie just had a lot of wasted potential. A real shame, as it could have been fun. As a lot of people have been saying, it just felt rushed. I was never bored though, so at least there's that. I almost wish they would have went with Jack Black as originally planned. At least then it would have been a flat out comedy, instead of the half and half kind of thing that they went for.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: InformationGeek on June 21, 2011, 11:59:56 AM
I almost wish they would have went with Jack Black as originally planned. At least then it would have been a flat out comedy, instead of the half and half kind of thing that they went for.

But then we would have gotten another Gulliver's Travels and who wants that?


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: The Burgomaster on June 21, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
Overall, I felt that this movie just had a lot of wasted potential. A real shame, as it could have been fun. As a lot of people have been saying, it just felt rushed. I was never bored though, so at least there's that. I almost wish they would have went with Jack Black as originally planned. At least then it would have been a flat out comedy, instead of the half and half kind of thing that they went for.

I completely agree with your comment about wasted potential.  But I am SO GLAD they scrapped the Jack Black idea!


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: melvinthemopboy3 on June 24, 2011, 12:00:40 PM
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But then we would have gotten another Gulliver's Travels and who wants that?

It may not have been great, but at least it would have tried something different. That was my biggest beef with Green Lantern: it pretty much just stuck to the superhero origin formula.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: rebel_1812 on June 26, 2011, 10:26:13 PM
I thought it was average.  It is outclassed by Thor and X-men this year.  I think a big reason for it was the acting choices.  Let me ask the people who thought it was good;  do you think ryan renolds played his character better then the actor for thor, or xaiver or magneto?  I don't and I think that took away from what could have been a pretty good movie.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: Ted C on June 28, 2011, 10:10:29 AM
I think my worst problem with the movie is the sequel setup.

"The power of fear turned one of our fellow cosmic Guardians into a planet-consuming eldritch abomination that scares us juiceless, and you want us to put it into a ring for you? Okay."


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: Hammock Rider on June 28, 2011, 10:51:09 AM
   Green Lantern wasn't as good as Thor or First Class abd part of that was the acting, sure. But I think it also has to do with the studio committment. You had Kenneth Branaugh directing Thor. With his Shakespearean backround he was a great choice for this movie.  Marvel obviously wanted a top notch production when they hired him. The same applies to First Class. Matthew Vaughn directed Layer Cake and it starred Michael Fassbender, James McAvoy and a surprisingly good Kevin Bacon.

   Green Lantern had a lesser cast and crew. . Martin Campbell directed a few James Bond movies so he's ok for action. Ryan Reynolds was a good choice but didn't really seemed that into the part. Blake Lively was ok. Peter Sarsgaard and Mark Strong were good in their smaller roles. I also liked Anglea Bassett as Amanda Waller. The problem is that the best actors had the shortest screen time and the director as fair to middling. The writers have mostly done tv and video games. I think Warner Brothers wanted to make a top tier mocie with this one. They put together some competant people and gave the audience a competant film.

   Sure they missed plenty of opportunites, but unfortunately that's true of the Green Lantern comic as well.  The potential for good stories based on the most elite law enforcement unit in the universe is limitless. Rarely do the books live up to the possibilities.  I'm not saying Green Lantern was at the top of the class, but it wasn't a bad movie either.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: WingedSerpent on June 28, 2011, 08:35:13 PM
A sequel is planned and now that a lot of stuff is taken care of they can do more cool things.

*Spoiler* (and suggestions)
During the credits there is a scene with Sinestro taking the Yellow ring and it creating his Sinestro Corps outfit.  For the sequel, I say have him trying to be both Green Lantern and Sinestro Corp.  Trying to juggle will and fear as he starts to go too far and imposing his will on others.  Hal could be working beside him trying to keep him good as well as seeing Sinestro's intentions are noble (misguded and going to far-but still noble).  All while fighting some space based Green Lantern rogue like Legion, the manhunters,  Lord Malvolo (an considering he's an evil GL-that could serve as a warning as too what could happen when power is taken too far.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on July 11, 2011, 04:33:56 PM
I haven't seen "Thor" and/or "X-men," so I can't comment on them in relation to this one, but I did think this one was not bad . . . not bad. Which may be damning with faint praise, but it did turn out better than I expected. But, still . . .

Maybe because of being p.c., they missed an opportunity to include one of the most unique and great comic book characters (IMHO) of all time. That crack jet mechanic and Eskimo Pieface.

I didn't like also Peter Sarsgaard's external transformation, as it gave away, what I thought was his strongest secret, if you did not know it, which would be his internal transformation.

But the main problem I had with the film was that the filmmakers seemed to be trying to tell two stories in one film. A story set here on earth and a second story set in outer space. Both good stories, but I'd think it'd have been better if they had decided on just one of the two stories and saved the second story for the sequel.

Still, there were several things I liked about the film.

I liked the final battle with Parallax. Though, perhaps for budgetary reasons, it should have gone on longer to build up some sense of suspense.

I liked the fact that the writers seemingly did not take an easy way out. It could have been so simple to make some of the characters unlikable, such as the senator and the doctor, but if they did not make them totally likable, they did make them likable in some ways.

And I liked the fact, that at least for this film, they made Sinestro a hero instead of a villain. As I think he comes off much better as a hero than a villain.


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: WingedSerpent on July 11, 2011, 04:53:20 PM

Maybe because of being p.c., they missed an opportunity to include one of the most unique and great comic book characters (IMHO) of all time. That crack jet mechanic and Eskimo Pieface.



He was in the movie. They just used his real name: Tom Kalmaku. 
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169806/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169806/)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kalmaku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kalmaku)


Title: Re: Green Lantern (2011)
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on July 19, 2011, 07:35:41 PM

Maybe because of being p.c., they missed an opportunity to include one of the most unique and great comic book characters (IMHO) of all time. That crack jet mechanic and Eskimo Pieface.



He was in the movie. They just used his real name: Tom Kalmaku. 


[url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169806/[/url] ([url]http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0169806/[/url])
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kalmaku[/url] ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kalmaku[/url])


Thank-you for correcting my mistake. There's a karma in it for you. Though, I must admit, I find the character far more memorable in the comic book than he was in the film.
Thank-you again for correcting my mistake.