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Title: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 20, 2011, 10:50:45 PM
Men are more willing to have sex, while women are more interested in shopping, which is a more selfish activity.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 12:55:46 AM
How do you equate sex with being unselfish?

Trust me on this: Women do not prefer shopping over sex; they prefer shopping over bad sex, but are more giving by being willing to go through with bad sex just to satisfy a man's purely selfish desire to get himself off.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: RCMerchant on August 21, 2011, 07:43:44 AM
Yes. No. I dont know.
Wheres a scientist when you need one?  :question:


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: AndyC on August 21, 2011, 08:41:05 AM
Yeah, seems to me that sex can be about giving and taking, and whether a man is good at it depends a great deal on which he focuses on.

Hard to say who is more giving in general though, and probably even harder to say it without offending somebody. Really, Male and Female psychology is in many ways an apples-and-oranges sort of thing. Could be that everything evens out and we do our giving and taking in different ways. Between innate tendencies, cultural influences, and individual personalities and experiences, it's a difficult thing to judge.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 21, 2011, 10:35:26 AM
And when was the last time you got flowers from a female?


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Cthulhu on August 21, 2011, 11:16:11 AM
It all comes down to persons.
You can't generalize like that.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 12:48:46 PM
And when was the last time you got flowers from a female?

Something you want to talk about?


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 12:49:50 PM
It all comes down to persons.
You can't generalize like that.

Yes I can.

Next.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: El Misfit on August 21, 2011, 01:02:08 PM
Men are more willing to have sex, while women are more interested in shopping, which is a more selfish activity.
Are you talking about cliches here? Or are you talking about college type people?


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 21, 2011, 01:05:59 PM
Women initiate arguments 80% of the time, which demonstrates they hidden Psychology that they think the relationship is about them or that is is about how THEY want it to be. A "me" not a "we" in other words.


body 
Prof. Gottman studies marriages the way biologists study

ecosystems,
 
"The biggest lesson to be learned is that the way couples begin a

discussion about a problem
 
He discovered that women initiate discussions about 80 per cent of the time
 
http://www.susanpinker.com/docs/2008_0416_women_in_law.pdf
 







Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Cthulhu on August 21, 2011, 01:11:53 PM
I feel like you're having some issues that you need to work out...


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 21, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
Not me, them.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 01:30:59 PM
Not me, them.

My god...anybody else sense a serial killer in the making here?


You brought up this discussion and more than one of us has asked what your issue is with women; not because we're feeling the love for you but simply because it is obvious.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 21, 2011, 01:42:26 PM
I brought it up, no one forced you to participate.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 01:43:31 PM
It's a forum, so discussion is open.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 21, 2011, 01:45:52 PM
As to your question, should be obvious, they are more interested in receiving than giving. Thread title gave it away.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 01:48:07 PM
Off Topic

Just wondering, as I just noticed the bad humor thread, who was the girl who locked that thread? I've told worse on here...lots worse...many times.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 01:52:45 PM
As to your question, should be obvious, they are more interested in receiving than giving. Thread title gave it away.

You keep using the term 'they' when referring to women.

Sorry, but this is blatantly misogynistic. You take your hatred of women as fact and then look for something to justify it.

When you brought up this discussion, you got contrary opinions.

The thing is you won't answer what your issue is.

I'll ask it again, since you brought it up...

What is your issue with women?


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 21, 2011, 01:56:08 PM
Er, no. Your silly effort at Psychology labeling is funny.

If you want to expand on the theme, to include "women are harder to get along with" one could go with Chrissie Hynde's comment when asked why she never used female musicians in her band; Too much brain damage, I can't deal with it. Or watch a Bangles or Vixen or Go Go's behind the music bio. Fought each other into the ground & they admit it.

Don't get me wrong, I love em, but learning management skills & trauma preventititve psychology is highly advisable in this realm. They do more important work than men do, that being having-raising-nurturing children, but they often come with stickers & learning all about that is worth one's time & effort.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 02:08:01 PM
Er, no. Your silly effort at Psychology labeling is funny.

If you want to expand on the theme, to include "women are harder to get along with" one could go with Chrissie Hynde's comment when asked why she never used female musicians in her band; Too much brain damage, I can't deal with it. Or watch a Bangles or Vixen or Go Go's behind the music bio. Fought each other into the ground & they admit it.

Don't get me wrong, I love em, but learning management skills & trauma preventititve psychology is highly advisable in this realm. They do more important work than men do, that being having-raising-nurturing children, but they often come with stickers & learning all about that is worth one's time & effort.

Again you skirt the question (pun intended).

What you just wrote is exactly what you have been doing, justifying your own misogyny by trying to find examples which support it.

Men and women are not products outside of their realms; neither is an island to themselves. In a traditionally male dominated society over years, men and women are not the same, but that is not biological; but your issues with women look at it that way.

Of course, as is fair, you are not an island yourself, so there is a reason why you feel this way.


If you want to talk about it, if you want a shoulder to lean on, let me know...

...I'll be happy to find someone else.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Rev. Powell on August 21, 2011, 02:27:02 PM
Er, no. Your silly effort at Psychology labeling is funny.

If you want to expand on the theme, to include "women are harder to get along with" one could go with Chrissie Hynde's comment when asked why she never used female musicians in her band; Too much brain damage, I can't deal with it. Or watch a Bangles or Vixen or Go Go's behind the music bio. Fought each other into the ground & they admit it.

Don't get me wrong, I love em, but learning management skills & trauma preventititve psychology is highly advisable in this realm. They do more important work than men do, that being having-raising-nurturing children, but they often come with stickers & learning all about that is worth one's time & effort.

cowofzot, you're new here and I suggest you may want to drop this topic.  When you've got a guy with "show us your boobs" as his signature accusing you of being misogynistic, you may want to rethink your position.

I don't know who locked the other topic but your posts have brought you negative attention twice in your short time with us.  I suggest you stick to discussing bad movies, which you have an obvious passion for.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 02:31:10 PM
When you've got a guy with "show us your boobs" as his signature accusing you of being misogynistic, you may want to rethink your position.

You just have a knack for words; I'm going to put that in my favorite quotes on Facebook. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: cowofzot on August 21, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
True enough Rev, best to ignore a poster who calls me a serial killer in the making & a women hater. Degrading a thread with immature jibes like that aren't worth responding to. I posted it really as a bit of a joke to see where it might go. It's been a subject that's gone the rounds in one of my social circles lately & I thought I might send it in another direction & see where it goes.

As to how I feel & there being a reason for it yes, read the Prof Gottman study I posted. It's called reality.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Menard on August 21, 2011, 03:01:13 PM
As to how I feel & there being a reason for it yes, read the Prof Gottman study I posted. It's called reality.

Oh sheesh...what are you, all of 13?

It's not reality, it's all your jaded sight sees and will ever see; so long as that is all you are looking to see.

There is no reality in what you have been saying, there is simply is someone's own personal prejudice looking to justify it.

We do have many female members of this forum, and none of them are any less than any of the male members. If all that you are looking to do is spread your narrow-minded view of women around, you may want to go somewhere else and do it.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Criswell on August 21, 2011, 03:39:09 PM
Men are more willing to have sex, while women are more interested in shopping, which is a more selfish activity.
Gosh this sounds like something a 13 year old would say.

gender has nothing to do with selfishness. All humans are selfish.


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Cthulhu on August 21, 2011, 03:48:37 PM
There is no reason to keep posting in this thread.
cowofzot is either stubborn and misygonistic, or 12. Maybe both.
Either way, he won't admit he's wrong.

It all comes down to persons.
You can't generalize like that.

Yes I can.

Next.
Wait, I'm confused. I'm on your side. :question:


Title: Re: Are men more giving than women?
Post by: Mr. DS on August 21, 2011, 03:52:40 PM
This thread is closed, it really isn't going anywhere.  Cowofzot, I'd reconsider posting something like this in the future.