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:bluesad:  Every time I see one of these "this place has changed" threads, I feel guilty.  My own contributions are mainly in the area that gets decried.   :bluesad:   It makes me sad to think that I may be part of the problem.

I think it's mainly because there's been a lot of new regulars (not that that's a bad thing) and that there's been a big influx of all the repetitive threads like the "games" and "ask me anything" crap. Things like that in my opinion have made reading the forum a bit more tiresome when I have actually found the time. I also think it's because lots of people have just become very busy in reality and haven't found time to check in and contribute more. We seem to have gotten farther and farther away from the thing that brought us all here originally.....Bad Movies! I see more of a focus on current cultural crap, so I find myself getting all angsty about subjects than all geeky and gushy over all the nostalgic stuff when I first joined.

But hey, that's just my take on it.  :smile:

:bluesad:  Every time I see one of these "this place has changed" threads, I feel guilty.  My own contributions are mainly in the area that gets decried.   :bluesad:   It makes me sad to think that I may be part of the problem.

I don't understand the "I'm leaving" proclamation.  There's been at least a couple of 'em.   I've "left" a couple of times because I was pre-occupied or bored or had nothing to write about, but didn't announce it... (or did I?)  As Zombie #1 wrote (Gidget), it's just a web forum. 

The old crowd has dropped off more and more... being ignored doesn't help, or rehashing old topics.  And it wasn't that long ago I was a newbie myself. 

As a relative old timer here, I know one thing that bugs me from time to time is that with the influx of younger users, there has been a shift towards the newer movies...and, a shift in the definition of "bad."  I recall the heady days of hero worship of Hammer Studios, Harryhausen, and other elements from "The Golden Age" of B-movies....we talked about effects, editing, direction, acting, production art, etc. in greater depth.  At least that's what I recall.

the important thing is to not take it too seriously IMO.  after all, it's 'only' a messageboard...getting hung up on it is probably a sign of investing too much emotion into a bunch of words on a screen. - not to take anything away from this place however, which is probably the nicest/friendliest messageboard community of any that I'm a member of on the net...but at the end of the day it shouldn't be a reason to stress out if you percieve it to be 'different' from before...

We can divide the history of this forum into two time periods:

* BBRA - Before Brother Ragnarok
* ABRA - After Brother Ragnarok

Some of you will remember this esteemed contributor.  Someone help me here . . . wasn't he on a crusade to see that every copy of THE HOUSE THAT SCREAMED was ultimately destroyed and removed forever from the face of the earth?

(Note: Please do not confuse the above time periods with "B-cup Bra" and "A-cup Bra.")

We've had this conversation before, it has been answered, yet there are some people on this board if their heads were cut off, they still wouldn't realize it.

One of the primary reasons this board changed is because of an influx of Zombie #1's attitude: it's only a message board, so it doesn't matter.

A community is a collection of people sharing, and that matters. Many of us on here have gone through our tragedies and triumphs, trying times and good; and this was a place where we made friends whom we never met in life, but through all oddities we found a common bond and shared things they were our next door neighbors or long time acquaintances.

This started out as nothing more than a threaded message board without topics. Off topic discussions were simply marked as OT, and Ash was the leader of that domain. There was no rules summary, the members policed the board themselves; when there was a troll incident, and there were some outlandish troll incidents years ago, the members would find ways around it and if a member was being attack, we would come to their aid, not sit back and watch in entertainment.

Of course, some of those incidents also were turned into humor; such as Buffy Knight or a thread that pops up ever now and then in the Bad Movies topic where someone created a bogus user account to promote some video of their's, and instead we decided to hijack the thread and change the topic of it and it has been a running joke since.

When I first joined the board, I was not one to use profanity on the board or to fight with people (who fainted?). There was an incident where a troll came onto the board and specifically went after Ash. Although she seemed to contribute in other ways, she would not let off of Ash, even though he hadn't been on the board for a while to even defend himself. I got sick and tired of her and ripped into her, and she departed in short order. I was not so amiable after that.

But what happened with the board? Why did it change? Who's fault is it?

The old guard let it languish. It got to a point where you could check on the board once a day just to see if something had been posted. Change was inevitable; if the membership was not going to keep things running, and Andrew has a website to keep up and the board is a vital part of that website, then things had to change to keep it going, to update it.

Expanding the board brought in new people, and even had some of the old ones returned because there was activity taking place. But, with any expansion, some get lost in the shuffle, things get too busy, and that place, like a favorite hangout, rather than being a place where you can sit down with a few friends for a casual conversation, you find yourself being bumped about and lost in the crowd (being lost in the crowd has never been my weakness as I will make myself known).

Things do change. You can't keep holding onto the past if it's not working; 'staying the course' was not only a stupid political philosophy, it stands in the way of progress. The internet changes and grows, and in order to survive with it, much like the world, websites and message boards need to adapt right along with it.

As the internet changes, so do we. The internet has become more integrated with our lives, offering more sites and more interactions, and where message boards were the apex of online interaction so many years ago, a lot of the internet has moved beyond them now.

It was a close-knit community so many years ago, and that's not saying that does not still exist within it, but that community has changed. That doesn't make it a bad thing, it's just somebody else's community now, somebody else's hangout.

But a community, the people who make it up, the things they have shared and the memories of them, that isn't just nothing. A message board is not just another message board like a hangout is not just another hangout. A corner shack is built from wood, and a message board is built from code, but its construction is immaterial as what makes it up in reality is the people and the community they bring together and if you truly want to get what has changed: a little too much of "it's just another this or that and it doesn't matter" attitude.

Zombie #1 wasn't wrong, but hit it right on the nose. This used to be a place, for some of us, that was where we met with friends and talked about trivial and important things. That doesn't mean that it is still not that for many of you, but it has moved beyond some of us. I used to care about this board, but, anymore, if it wasn't here tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me one bit.

The question of "has the atmosphere changed?" is oblivious; and the answer is not singular.

For those who do find it a community, a place you cherish, hang onto it; keep it going.

For me, I'll just be hanging around as usual to torment (just because I love tormenting you b***hes) and of course for the free boob shots (HINT!!!). :teddyr:

Menard hit it right on the nose.

I wouldn't take it so easy if this community disappeared tomorrow, but he's still pretty much right about everything.

The community is people, and you who contribute are my people, and that should be explored.

To tell you the honest truth, Mofo: if this community vanished tomorrow, I have no idea what I would do. If I get angry at work, I log on here and I calm down very quickly.

Man-I would be VERY upset if this forum disappered. You guys really are my best freinds-mebbe that doesn't say much for my social life in the "real" world (or lack of one)-but it's true. I would be lost without you nuts.

 :teddyr: :cheers:

And we would be lost without you, old friend.  :teddyr:

If Jack stays around I'm fine, I need someone to bully.

If Jack stays around I'm fine, I need someone to bully.

And, for what it's worth, in recent years, I (and others) have posted reviews (or comments) on movies watched in the bad movies or good movies boards that have not gotten one single reply comment.

I agree with most everyone here about the atmosphere changing.  This board is a different place than it used to be. 
I used to post here every day and would go through withdrawal if I didn't.  I can't even begin to count how many thousands of hours I've spent here...not just on this board but the entire site.  Because of that, there's no way I could just up and delete my account like trek did.  No way Jose!
As with most things, this site and forum has evolved and changed over time.  Do I miss the old days?  Of course I do.  I remember the first time I came here way back in the summer of 2000.  I was instantly hooked.


This.
This is why I haven't posted as much as I used to.  There was a time when I would write a post and it would get countless responses.  Not so much anymore.
I feel like a lot of us old timers' posts get lost in the shuffle or "white noise" as someone else put it.
I still lurk almost every day but the topics have gotten stale and uninteresting.  (at least to me they have)

I agree with most everyone here about the atmosphere changing.  This board is a different place than it used to be.  
I used to post here every day and would go through withdrawal if I didn't.  I can't even begin to count how many thousands of hours I've spent here...not just on this board but the entire site.  Because of that, there's no way I could just up and delete my account like trek did.  No way Jose!
As with most things, this site and forum has evolved and changed over time.  Do I miss the old days?  Of course I do.  I remember the first time I came here way back in the summer of 2000.  I was instantly hooked.


This.
This is why I haven't posted as much as I used to.  There was a time when I would write a post and it would get countless responses.  Not so much anymore.
I feel like a lot of us old timers' posts get lost in the shuffle or "white noise" as someone else put it.
I still lurk almost every day but the topics have gotten stale and uninteresting.  (at least to me they have)

We've had this conversation before, it has been answered, yet there are some people on this board if their heads were cut off, they still wouldn't realize it.

One of the primary reasons this board changed is because of an influx of Zombie #1's attitude: it's only a message board, so it doesn't matter.

A community is a collection of people sharing, and that matters. Many of us on here have gone through our tragedies and triumphs, trying times and good; and this was a place where we made friends whom we never met in life, but through all oddities we found a common bond and shared things they were our next door neighbors or long time acquaintances.

This started out as nothing more than a threaded message board without topics. Off topic discussions were simply marked as OT, and Ash was the leader of that domain. There was no rules summary, the members policed the board themselves; when there was a troll incident, and there were some outlandish troll incidents years ago, the members would find ways around it and if a member was being attack, we would come to their aid, not sit back and watch in entertainment.

Of course, some of those incidents also were turned into humor; such as Buffy Knight or a thread that pops up ever now and then in the Bad Movies topic where someone created a bogus user account to promote some video of their's, and instead we decided to hijack the thread and change the topic of it and it has been a running joke since.

When I first joined the board, I was not one to use profanity on the board or to fight with people (who fainted?). There was an incident where a troll came onto the board and specifically went after Ash. Although she seemed to contribute in other ways, she would not let off of Ash, even though he hadn't been on the board for a while to even defend himself. I got sick and tired of her and ripped into her, and she departed in short order. I was not so amiable after that.

But what happened with the board? Why did it change? Who's fault is it?

The old guard let it languish. It got to a point where you could check on the board once a day just to see if something had been posted. Change was inevitable; if the membership was not going to keep things running, and Andrew has a website to keep up and the board is a vital part of that website, then things had to change to keep it going, to update it.

Expanding the board brought in new people, and even had some of the old ones returned because there was activity taking place. But, with any expansion, some get lost in the shuffle, things get too busy, and that place, like a favorite hangout, rather than being a place where you can sit down with a few friends for a casual conversation, you find yourself being bumped about and lost in the crowd (being lost in the crowd has never been my weakness as I will make myself known).

Things do change. You can't keep holding onto the past if it's not working; 'staying the course' was not only a stupid political philosophy, it stands in the way of progress. The internet changes and grows, and in order to survive with it, much like the world, websites and message boards need to adapt right along with it.

As the internet changes, so do we. The internet has become more integrated with our lives, offering more sites and more interactions, and where message boards were the apex of online interaction so many years ago, a lot of the internet has moved beyond them now.

It was a close-knit community so many years ago, and that's not saying that does not still exist within it, but that community has changed. That doesn't make it a bad thing, it's just somebody else's community now, somebody else's hangout.

But a community, the people who make it up, the things they have shared and the memories of them, that isn't just nothing. A message board is not just another message board like a hangout is not just another hangout. A corner shack is built from wood, and a message board is built from code, but its construction is immaterial as what makes it up in reality is the people and the community they bring together and if you truly want to get what has changed: a little too much of "it's just another this or that and it doesn't matter" attitude.

Zombie #1 wasn't wrong, but hit it right on the nose. This used to be a place, for some of us, that was where we met with friends and talked about trivial and important things. That doesn't mean that it is still not that for many of you, but it has moved beyond some of us. I used to care about this board, but, anymore, if it wasn't here tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me one bit.

The question of "has the atmosphere changed?" is oblivious; and the answer is not singular.

For those who do find it a community, a place you cherish, hang onto it; keep it going.

For me, I'll just be hanging around as usual to torment (just because I love tormenting you b***hes) and of course for the free boob shots (HINT!!!).   :teddyr:

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 :teddyr:

We've had this conversation before, it has been answered, yet there are some people on this board if their heads were cut off, they still wouldn't realize it.
One of the primary reasons this board changed is because of an influx of Zombie #1's attitude: it's only a message board, so it doesn't matter.
A community is a collection of people sharing, and that matters. Many of us on here have gone through our tragedies and triumphs, trying times and good; and this was a place where we made friends whom we never met in life, but through all oddities we found a common bond and shared things they were our next door neighbors or long time acquaintances.
This started out as nothing more than a threaded message board without topics. Off topic discussions were simply marked as OT, and Ash was the leader of that domain. There was no rules summary, the members policed the board themselves; when there was a troll incident, and there were some outlandish troll incidents years ago, the members would find ways around it and if a member was being attack, we would come to their aid, not sit back and watch in entertainment.
Of course, some of those incidents also were turned into humor; such as Buffy Knight or a thread that pops up ever now and then in the Bad Movies topic where someone created a bogus user account to promote some video of their's, and instead we decided to hijack the thread and change the topic of it and it has been a running joke since.
When I first joined the board, I was not one to use profanity on the board or to fight with people (who fainted?). There was an incident where a troll came onto the board and specifically went after Ash. Although she seemed to contribute in other ways, she would not let off of Ash, even though he hadn't been on the board for a while to even defend himself. I got sick and tired of her and ripped into her, and she departed in short order. I was not so amiable after that.
But what happened with the board? Why did it change? Who's fault is it?
The old guard let it languish. It got to a point where you could check on the board once a day just to see if something had been posted. Change was inevitable; if the membership was not going to keep things running, and Andrew has a website to keep up and the board is a vital part of that website, then things had to change to keep it going, to update it.
Expanding the board brought in new people, and even had some of the old ones returned because there was activity taking place. But, with any expansion, some get lost in the shuffle, things get too busy, and that place, like a favorite hangout, rather than being a place where you can sit down with a few friends for a casual conversation, you find yourself being bumped about and lost in the crowd (being lost in the crowd has never been my weakness as I will make myself known).
Things do change. You can't keep holding onto the past if it's not working; 'staying the course' was not only a stupid political philosophy, it stands in the way of progress. The internet changes and grows, and in order to survive with it, much like the world, websites and message boards need to adapt right along with it.
As the internet changes, so do we. The internet has become more integrated with our lives, offering more sites and more interactions, and where message boards were the apex of online interaction so many years ago, a lot of the internet has moved beyond them now.
It was a close-knit community so many years ago, and that's not saying that does not still exist within it, but that community has changed. That doesn't make it a bad thing, it's just somebody else's community now, somebody else's hangout.
But a community, the people who make it up, the things they have shared and the memories of them, that isn't just nothing. A message board is not just another message board like a hangout is not just another hangout. A corner shack is built from wood, and a message board is built from code, but its construction is immaterial as what makes it up in reality is the people and the community they bring together and if you truly want to get what has changed: a little too much of "it's just another this or that and it doesn't matter" attitude.
Zombie #1 wasn't wrong, but hit it right on the nose. This used to be a place, for some of us, that was where we met with friends and talked about trivial and important things. That doesn't mean that it is still not that for many of you, but it has moved beyond some of us. I used to care about this board, but, anymore, if it wasn't here tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me one bit.
The question of "has the atmosphere changed?" is oblivious; and the answer is not singular.
For those who do find it a community, a place you cherish, hang onto it; keep it going.
For me, I'll just be hanging around as usual to torment (just because I love tormenting you b***hes) and of course for the free boob shots (HINT!!!). :teddyr:

Zombie #1 is a pleasant guy with a Gidget avatar, a great attitude, and is never long winded.  :thumbup: :teddyr:

Sorry.

Oh Menard, you're such a card!!!

Do you have any blogs or forums of your own going right now?  I enjoyed your last one, even though it never got as much participation as we had hoped.

...but then real life got in the way of any such plans...

I always think the atmosphere does change when I get here and my undies foul the atmosphere....  :tongueout: :wink:

I always think the atmosphere does change when I get here and my undies foul the atmosphere....  :tongueout: :wink:

People used to think that it was miasmas or "bad air" that caused diseases. Then they found out that wasn't the case, it was germs.

Unfortunately for you, Trevor, your undies are still one of the primary vectors.

Lord knows I love you, but your undies aren't just a personal problem, they're a public health emergency. Seriously, would it kill you to give them a wash every once in a while? Because they are quite literally killing everybody else.

Ah, who am I kidding? I can't stay mad at Trevor.

::sniff::

Damn! Where'd that come from?


Oh...  :tongueout:

Unfortunately for you, Trevor, your undies are still one of the primary vectors.

Lord knows I love you, but your undies aren't just a personal problem, they're a public health emergency. Seriously, would it kill you to give them a wash every once in a while? Because they are quite literally killing everybody else.

Ah, who am I kidding? I can't stay mad at Trevor.

I agree. His germy undies killed me, then the evil spirits within the stain pools took over my body and made me a zombie. Zombies can't smell, so all is right with the world.

...As I have said, it has been discussed before, and a lot of my comments are not unique to my most recent post (diatribe as AHD probably would call it :tongueout: )...