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Title: Bugs Bunny
Post by: RCMerchant on April 21, 2012, 05:49:02 PM
I grew up watching the old Bugs ,Daffy and Porky Pig cartoons.
I think they are some of the most BEST films ever put out by Warner studios.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxBZVulaxs8&feature=related

I need a whole video of this stuff that lasts for hours.
Id be in love.
Bugs was the MAD magazine of his day.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:06:47 PM
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:19:49 PM
I also love the one you posted. The 50's ones are great, but the 40's ones done by Robert Clampett were so surreal and whimsical. This one, "Book Revue", my favorite of the Clampett episodes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz9HLay42l8


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: RCMerchant on April 21, 2012, 06:22:34 PM
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.
I will! I need to!
I miss waking up on Saterday morn and watching Bugs untill noon-then they would play s**t-untill 3 oclock-and play crappy old movies-on uhf channel 28.
And-at 11:30-Double Creature Feature came on! Right after the HONEYMOONERS  rerun was done.
Dam-I miss uhf tv .


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 21, 2012, 06:31:42 PM
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.

I will! I need to!
I miss waking up on Saterday morn and watching Bugs untill noon-then they would play s**t-untill 3 oclock-and play crappy old movies-on uhf channel 28.
And-at 11:30-Double Creature Feature came on! Right after the HONEYMOONERS  rerun was done.
Dam-I miss uhf tv .


The wikipedia articles offers a good run-down of the series:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes_Golden_Collection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looney_Tunes_Golden_Collection)


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: RCMerchant on April 21, 2012, 06:36:04 PM
I also love the one you posted. The 50's ones are great, but the 40's ones done by Robert Clampett were so surreal and whimsical. This one, "Book Revue", my favorite of the Clampett episodes.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz9HLay42l8[/url]

Thats a wonderful clip.
Dam-I sure miss 'em.
Ol' Bugs and Daffy-Daffy was REALLY insane.
He f**ked with Porky so bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8epkIn_tgI


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Allhallowsday on April 21, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
I also love the one you posted. The 50's ones are great, but the 40's ones done by Robert Clampett were so surreal and whimsical. This one, "Book Revue", my favorite of the Clampett episodes.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz9HLay42l8[/url]
Pretty damed great.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7KPpfTr6PE


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Kaseykockroach on April 21, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
Bugs Bunny is everything right with America.

Mickey Mouse is everything wrong with it.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: tracy on April 23, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
Bugs Bunny....Elmer Fudd...Daffy Duck....classics! This one always cracks me up...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmvuAn3mz5E


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 23, 2012, 06:17:30 PM
Bugs Bunny is everything right with America.

Mickey Mouse is everything wrong with it.

Interesting. I don't entirely agree, but I do think I know where you're coming from, so I'll give you some karma.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Kaseykockroach on April 24, 2012, 02:51:32 AM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: lester1/2jr on April 24, 2012, 07:30:21 AM
The really early Daffy Duck stuff is the best. and the Popeye b & w ones where he mumbles the whole time.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: InformationGeek on April 24, 2012, 08:19:51 AM
Bugs Bunny stuff is alright, but I just love Daffy Duck more.  He had my favorite of all the Looney Tunes shorts: Duck Amuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH6i2Z6mTRE


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 24, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P

That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Frank81 on April 24, 2012, 01:28:00 PM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P

That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.

lol.. OK, Now, I'm saying wait, what..? 


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: tracy on April 24, 2012, 01:31:44 PM
Bugs is our "every man" type....Mickey,and I like Mickey,is the "Happy Go Lucky" one. Some days I definitely feel more like Bugs. :smile:


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: FatFreddysCat on April 24, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
I grew up on Bugs and the Looney Tunes gang and to me they still represent the Gold Standard of cartoon comedy.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 24, 2012, 07:25:43 PM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P

That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.

lol.. OK, Now, I'm saying wait, what..? 

Which part?


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 26, 2012, 09:12:06 AM
Another amazing Daffy episode from the 40's. Daffy toons from the 40's were quite different than those from the 50's where he was the target of Bugs. This one is not a well-known one, which is surprising considering how hilarious it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayIyC2HQUk


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: JayJayM12 on April 26, 2012, 11:08:21 AM
You should seek out Looney Tunes Golden Collection. It's quite a few volumes. I don't have any, but I've been thinking of starting to collect them. From what I can see, it is about as complete a collection of all the classics, unedited, as you're likely to find.

The Golden Collection sets are fantastic!  While they haven't even come close to getting them all out there yet, the ones that they've released look the best that they have (or at least that I've seen) and the are loaded down with special features.  I also like that, while indiviidual discs within the sets are sometimes devoted to a single character or pairing, each overall set provides a pretty wide variety.  Now, I think they're also putting them out on blu ray...


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Chainsawmidget on April 26, 2012, 12:03:21 PM
Another amazing Daffy episode from the 40's. Daffy toons from the 40's were quite different than those from the 50's where he was the target of Bugs. This one is not a well-known one, which is surprising considering how hilarious it is.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayIyC2HQUk[/url]


I've always loved the song he sings at the start of that.  I haven't watched that episode in at least a decade and I can still remember the words to it.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 26, 2012, 06:37:20 PM
Another amazing Daffy episode from the 40's. Daffy toons from the 40's were quite different than those from the 50's where he was the target of Bugs. This one is not a well-known one, which is surprising considering how hilarious it is.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ayIyC2HQUk[/url]


I've always loved the song he sings at the start of that.  I haven't watched that episode in at least a decade and I can still remember the words to it.


I know. Me too.  :thumbup:


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 26, 2012, 09:55:33 PM
I grew up on Looney Tunes. Daffy Duck is my favorite of them all. Marvin the Martian is up there too.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: RCMerchant on April 27, 2012, 04:38:54 AM
Why didn't Pete Puma not have more than one appearance?
 He made only one appearance in  the original shorts-1952-after that-no more. Too bad. He was hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tcmbg8-Zow&feature=related


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Flick James on April 27, 2012, 09:17:04 AM
That's a great one. WB would try out certain characters and some would stick and some wouldn't. It's not unlike Beaky Buzzard who appeared in a few:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CABfaw8WypQ

or Charlie Dog:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULDmvBaDpmM



Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: JayJayM12 on April 27, 2012, 09:40:02 AM
Why didn't Pete Puma not have more than one appearance?
 He made only one appearance in  the original shorts-1952-after that-no more. Too bad. He was hilarious.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tcmbg8-Zow&feature=related[/url]


Actually, what's funny too is that, until you said it, I assumed he was definitely in quite a few of the shorts.  I guess that goes to show the impression that he made!


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Frank81 on April 30, 2012, 11:50:42 AM
I'm not a Disney hater (save almost everything done after the early 60's), but it's more what Mickey represents compared to what Bugs represents for us all. :P

That's pretty much what I thought you meant, hence the karma. I don't hate Mickey either, but if I had to vote between Mickey and Bugs as an American spokes-toon, Bugs would certainly get mine.

lol.. OK, Now, I'm saying wait, what..? 

Which part?

Well, Bugs is a wise guy/teenager, whereas, Mickey is child- like/kid, so I don't see how the two can be compared?


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 11:56:01 AM
Bugs, at least in the hands of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Friz Freleng, Frank Tashlin, Bob Clampett and the like, is a real living, breathing character.
Mickey was always a corporate mascot from the very beginning. At best, a framing device for funnier and more interesting characters.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Frank81 on April 30, 2012, 12:05:28 PM
Bugs, at least in the hands of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Friz Freleng, Frank Tashlin, Bob Clampett and the like, is a real living, breathing character.
Mickey was always a corporate mascot from the very beginning. At best, a framing device for funnier and more interesting characters.


Coporate  mascot?   :question:  Walt Disney's creations early  on were not part of any corporate  scheme, but, rather  an attempt to break  away from the  then corporate  control of Universal, Walt  Disney and  I think the name was Ub Werks?  In any event, Bugs has long ago become a corporate  mascot selling everything from War  Bonds to kids  sneakers


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Pacman000 on April 30, 2012, 12:25:15 PM
Bugs, at least in the hands of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Friz Freleng, Frank Tashlin, Bob Clampett and the like, is a real living, breathing character.
Mickey was always a corporate mascot from the very beginning. At best, a framing device for funnier and more interesting characters.


Disney was kindof forced into using mickey as a mascot.  He wanted to make cartoons that didn't star Mickey (like The Skeleton Dance), but no one would buy them.  To get people to buy them he added "Mickey Mouse presents" to the title card.

Mickey had more personality in his early shorts.  Once he became popular they toned it down to avoid offending people.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
The early black-and-white shorts borrow from Otto Messmer's Felix, with none of the imagination. The character never had much in the way of personality. By and large, handsome and charming drawing/movement was about all the series had in its favor. Animation by masters Fred Moore, Les Clark, Ken Muse and the like will always remain useful in analyzing bygone principles of the artform.
That doesn't mean he wasn't featured in some of the most wonderful cartoons ever made, of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBBJ1_KHHKE


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Pacman000 on April 30, 2012, 12:45:30 PM
Which is probably why nobody bought it until they added sound.   :wink:


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Frank81 on April 30, 2012, 12:47:36 PM
The early black-and-white shorts borrow from Otto Messmer's Felix, with none of the imagination. The character never had much in the way of personality. By and large, handsome and charming drawing/movement was about all the series had in its favor. Animation by masters Fred Moore, Les Clark, Ken Muse and the like will always remain useful in analyzing bygone principles of the artform.
That doesn't mean he wasn't featured in some of the most wonderful cartoons ever made, of course.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBBJ1_KHHKE[/url]


I get  it the Cat  was chased  away  by the Mouse. :teddyr:


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 12:51:35 PM
Mickey was deemed an Oswald rip-off until they added sound to Steamboat Willie.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Frank81 on April 30, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
Mickey was deemed an Oswald rip-off until they added sound to Steamboat Willie.


Yes, Oswald, that  was  the corporate  mascots name, Disney  left  with that  Werks  guy to create  Mickey. In any event, most  creations  build  on something that was before  it.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Chainsawmidget on April 30, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
Mickey was originally a bit more of an everyman type character and a bit more adventurous, but most of those traits got passed on to Donald and Goofy, leaving Mickey to play the straight man of the group. 

Bugs was always the wiseguy.  If he's not causing trouble himself, he's getting into it.  He's a far more active character as opposed to Mickey's more passive one.  Disney cartoons also tend to follow logic more closely while Looney Toones embrace the wacky and unpredictable side more.  You're far less likely to see Micky Mouse pull an entire car out of his pocket and ride away in it than you are to see Bugs do it. 



Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Frank81 on April 30, 2012, 01:03:08 PM
Mickey was originally a bit more of an everyman type character and a bit more adventurous, but most of those traits got passed on to Donald and Goofy, leaving Mickey to play the straight man of the group. 

Bugs was always the wiseguy.  If he's not causing trouble himself, he's getting into it.  He's a far more active character as opposed to Mickey's more passive one.  Disney cartoons also tend to follow logic more closely while Looney Toones embrace the wacky and unpredictable side more.  You're far less likely to see Micky Mouse pull an entire car out of his pocket and ride away in it than you are to see Bugs do it. 



True, also, let's  face it, cartoons  were  once considered  mostly  for  kids and  pre-teens. I think everyone from Walt to  Hanna-Babera  would be  shocked  at  what passes  for  cartoons  these  days, like  Family  Guy and  even The  Simpsons.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Pacman000 on April 30, 2012, 01:11:09 PM
Mickey was originally a bit more of an everyman type character and a bit more adventurous, but most of those traits got passed on to Donald and Goofy, leaving Mickey to play the straight man of the group.  

Bugs was always the wiseguy.  If he's not causing trouble himself, he's getting into it.  He's a far more active character as opposed to Mickey's more passive one.  Disney cartoons also tend to follow logic more closely while Looney Toones embrace the wacky and unpredictable side more.  You're far less likely to see Micky Mouse pull an entire car out of his pocket and ride away in it than you are to see Bugs do it.  






True, also, let's  face it, cartoons  were  once considered  mostly  for  kids and  pre-teens. I think everyone from Walt to  Hanna-Babera  would be  shocked  at  what passes  for  cartoons  these  days, like  Family  Guy and  even The  Simpsons.

Are you sure?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvdqAMs89M0

(No, it's not a Disney cartoon; it was made by Van Bueren, who didn't care much for copyrights.  :wink:)


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Kaseykockroach on April 30, 2012, 01:26:39 PM
The other way around, actually. Cartoons were considered for adults until the 50's when animation began being produced for television. It's just that adults were generally more sophisticated back in the day, so no one cared to see gore, swearing and such. And even then, you have this being produced for the armed forces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibqlcBBXnE
The only golden age-era cartoons that were considered purely for children were Casper and Little Audrey.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Frank81 on April 30, 2012, 02:05:01 PM
The other way around, actually. Cartoons were considered for adults until the 50's when animation began being produced for television. It's just that adults were generally more sophisticated back in the day, so no one cared to see gore, swearing and such. And even then, you have this being produced for the armed forces.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibqlcBBXnE[/url]
The only golden age-era cartoons that were considered purely for children were Casper and Little Audrey.



I like  Casper, it's  about a  dead  kid, right? :teddyr:


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: Chainsawmidget on April 30, 2012, 02:26:02 PM
When I was in the military about ten years back, they were still using Goofy cartoons in the divers ed classes they taught. 


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: HappyGilmore on April 30, 2012, 07:47:55 PM
Haredevil Hare...Bugs Bunny and Marvin the Martian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yTJcYQY6Vw

Also, I always particularly liked these two quick scenes from Roger Rabbit:
Mickey and Bugs, together on screen.  As a young kid seeing this, my mind exploded with joy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKjUtTC3e0Y

Although, this was better because I'm a bigger fan of Daffy and Donald.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv24TJ8iXcs&feature=related


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: 66Crush on May 03, 2012, 11:31:47 PM
I have one of the "Golden Collection" volumes. I also recently bought "Saturday Morning Cartoons of the 1970's Vol. 2," which features an episode of the old "Bugs Bunny/ Roadrunner" Show with the themes and bumpers. That was a nice surprise, since most repackaged shows don't get the DVD treatment. But this was a fixture on CBS for about fifteen years or more, so it's nice to see at least one episode again in this format.


Title: Re: Bugs Bunny
Post by: RCMerchant on May 04, 2012, 04:42:57 AM
Mickey Mouse.
Sheesh.
Never liked Mickey-even as a little kid.
He was like the kid who never got in trouble-brought a teacher an apple. A suck-ass.
Bugs-he was a rebel! Didn't give a rat's ass. Or in this case-a mouse's ass.

Heck-Bug's didn't have to even lift a finger-like the mutant's in BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES-he made his enemies fight each other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtkflEaeGjo&feature=related