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Title: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Conf on June 12, 2012, 07:06:58 AM
When I was a kid, I liked Chevy Chase for movies like 'Spies like us' or 'Fletch' (or so I remember). Not being american, I didn't know he was a star in the US, nor I knew about SNL or the Griswold movies, that appeared in italian theatres just for a few days some years later. He was just a funny face doing funny expressions. Anyway, last night I stumbled upon the first Vacation on tv and I couldn't stop asking myself what was so funny about Chevy Chase and why that movie is regarded as one of the funniest 80s comedies. It raised just a few smiles on my face, never a full laugh. Please explain to a poor european. Thank you.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Venomx73 on June 12, 2012, 07:18:19 AM
(http://www.vacationguidez.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/National-Lampoons-Vacation-3.jpg)

Hello. For me, I just love this movie for it's nostalgia.

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If you watched it in the early 80's like I did, I'm sure it would be in your top 50 nostalgia flicks list too. :smile:

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Russ: "Hey you got Pacman?"
Dale: "No."
Russ: "Uh, you got Space Invaders?"
Dale: "Nope."
Russ: "You got Asteroids?"
Dale: "No but my Dad does. Can't even sit on the toilet some days!"


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Conf on June 12, 2012, 08:07:16 AM
Actually, nostalgia can be a bum. When I watched movies like Re-Animator or Return of the Living Dead in recent times, having loved them as a kid, I was slightly disappointed, as I remembered them better than they were.
Back to Chevy Chase, not having seen any SNL sketches, was he famous for a particular gag or catchphrase or just for his "rubber face" ?
Oh, I just remembered that we had two kind-of-ripoff of 'Vacation' in Italy about italians goin' coast to coast in the US, both entertaining and funny (provided you're italian, of course). Bo Derek starred in one ('Sognando la California - California Dreamin').

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjfIVc93H78http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNSQnKW_lUY


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: FatFreddysCat on June 12, 2012, 08:09:34 AM
National Lampoon's Vacation is one of those movies where you just had to "be there" I guess. I loved it as a kid, but I'll admit that now, almost 30 years later, it has its moments but overall it hasn't aged particularly well.

I actually prefer the "Christmas Vacation" sequel over the original these days. Still catch that one at least once every Holiday season.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Venomx73 on June 12, 2012, 08:13:12 AM
When I was a kid, I liked Chevy Chase for movies like 'Spies like us' or 'Fletch' (or so I remember). Not being american, I didn't know he was a star in the US, nor I knew about SNL or the Griswold movies, that appeared in italian theatres just for a few days some years later. He was just a funny face doing funny expressions. Anyway, last night I stumbled upon the first Vacation on tv and I couldn't stop asking myself what was so funny about Chevy Chase and why that movie is regarded as one of the funniest 80s comedies. It raised just a few smiles on my face, never a full laugh. Please explain to a poor european. Thank you.

Btw. Do you know about National Lampoon's European Vacation?
it's funny. but... Imo it misses something.
It's my least favorite... Christmas Vacation takes 2nd place.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Conf on June 12, 2012, 08:15:53 AM
Btw. Do you know about National Lampoon's European Vacation?
it's funny. but... Imo it misses something.
It's my least favorite... Christmas Vacation takes 2nd place.

yes, it came out as "Guarda un po' sti americani!" ("Look at those Americans!") but I have never seen them. I remember a review on a magazine that despised the movie for its abuse of stereotypes about europeans (french=dirty people, italians=latin lovers/mafia and so on).


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Venomx73 on June 12, 2012, 08:18:14 AM
LOL. Very good. :wink:

"Look at those Americans!" Yup. Thats 'National Lampoon's European Vacation' in a nutshell.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: The Burgomaster on June 12, 2012, 08:24:15 AM
I guess it pokes fun at the average, middle-class American family.  So, maybe some of the humor doesn't translate well if you've never been part of such a family.   


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Conf on June 12, 2012, 08:36:59 AM
I don't know if it's just that...I grew with every kind of sitcom (from Happy Days to Archibald to the Jeffersons to The Nanny...), so I guess I should know how life is like in a US family (of course in a fictionalized way). Some were very funny, some were not. Then again, maybe it's just me not "gettin'" Chevy (though I liked him in 'Spies like us'...he was perfect as the slacker spy).


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: akiratubo on June 12, 2012, 09:27:23 AM
Vacation is a movie that has not aged well.  It was very fresh when it came out and deserved to be such a hit.  However, by now so many other movies have ripped it off so many times that someone watching it for the first time today probably won't get anything out of it.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Psycho Circus on June 12, 2012, 10:02:31 AM
I've never found Chevy Chase funny. I really wanted to like the vacation films, but they just kind of washed over me. Not terrible, but I just didn't laugh.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Hammock Rider on June 12, 2012, 11:49:44 AM
I saw it in the theater when it first came out and it was hilarious. This was only a few years after SNL & Animal House pushed the envelope in some areas so that kind of irreverent humor was still pretty new. And it did a good job of exagerating the cross country trek that was a pretty common vacation style back then.

  Nowadays it gives me a double shot of nostalgia. It reminds me of both the vacations I took as a kid and the movie going summers of my youth.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Rev. Powell on June 12, 2012, 12:00:04 PM
I hated VACATION when it came out. I probably would like it better now as I'm much more tolerant as an older person. That said, Chevy Chase is not particularly funny, and looking back I'm not sure anyone can say why he was so popular in the 80s.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: FatFreddysCat on June 12, 2012, 12:57:21 PM

Btw. Do you know about National Lampoon's European Vacation?
it's funny. but... Imo it misses something.
It's my least favorite... Christmas Vacation takes 2nd place.


I've seen all of the "Vacation" films (yes, even the godawful, grasping-at-straws "Vegas Vacation"). I found "European" particularly funny when I first saw it cuz I had just spent a month in Germany as an exchange student. But like the original, looking at it now it hasn't held up particularly well.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: JaseSF on June 12, 2012, 08:35:00 PM
I actually do enjoy these old 80s Chevy Chase films but yeah in the Vacation films, he's a selfish jerk a lot of the time. What I find funny about the Vacation series is he's pretty much your stereotypical dumb American tourist amped up to slightly ridiculous extremes.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: HappyGilmore on June 12, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
SNL produced many stars. Chase among them.

I wish SNL would apologize. Chase, I never found particularly funny outside of Christmas Vacation and Vegas Vacation.

What's the appeal of the first? Not sure. I was too young when it came out...just seems to be a satire of a typical American vacation.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Venomx73 on June 12, 2012, 10:23:56 PM
Clark: "Excuse me, could you please tell me how to get back on the express way?" :twirl:


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: claws on June 13, 2012, 03:56:08 AM
Though he was good at playing dumb, but I never got the overall appeal of Chevy Chase. That said, I still enjoy most of his 80's movie. To me he was at his funniest in íThree Amigos! (1986), and I have a huge soft spot for Funny Farm (1988).
I couldn't get into the Fletch movies and he was rather forgettable in Deal of the Century (1983).
I'm in the minority here but Christmas Vacation is my least favorite Vacation movie.
Whenever I watch Vacation it brings back great, nostalgic memories because we used to do the exact same thing (except my dad isn't as selfish and dumb).


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: crackers on June 13, 2012, 04:05:35 AM
I'm a huge Chevy Chase fan and still love all the vacation movie particularly European.

I still think he is really funny in the Community series. I think his character is hilarious.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Mofo Rising on June 13, 2012, 04:41:53 AM
I'm not really a fan of Chevy Chase, but the appeal of the National Lampoon Vacation series is that Chase lampoons a very specific brand of middle-American a***ole. The stereotypical "ugly American."

I don't know how well it translates to other countries, but Chase's character is pretty instantly recognizable to anybody in this country. Funny? Depends on your viewpoint.

I will say, in deference to European Vacation, that I think the word "pork" as a verb should come back into common parlance.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: Conf on June 13, 2012, 03:37:01 PM
Today I've watched John Landis' Three Amigos (after more than 20yrs) and unfortunately it's another bland comedy with no stand-out moments for Chevy (Steve Martin always steals the scene). It's not a bad movie, but it lacks punch.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: mrsskinner on June 13, 2012, 05:24:39 PM
Conf, did your family ever take long car trips? Mine did and while we didnt  drive off the road or anything my dad did lock his keys in the car with the engine running. Thats what makes it funny to me -my mom taking bad video shaking the camera back and forth and things like that. Also every family has a "Cousin Eddie" who we like to think we're better than-kind of like Chevy Chase's character but really we're not. My personal favorite is Christmas Vacation Ive had holidays like that myself-last Christmas I actually dropped the turkey, stuffing dinner rolls and a plate of cookies on the floor and after we wrestled it from the dogs it was delicious. I dont think its just an American thing because really we're more alike than we are different in the world.


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: fulci420 on June 13, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Like many of the ppl in this thread i have never found chevy funny. Christmas vacation is ok but the original is completely devoid of humour imo. I think of all genres comedy ages the worst tho which could be a factor. Honestly i dont really find caddyshack that funny either, but this could also be a generation issue (i am in my early 20's).


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: JoeTheDestroyer on June 14, 2012, 01:34:44 AM
I enjoy the first three Vacation films, but Chevy Chase as a whole... not so much.  I find that he essentially plays the same character in every movie, and that his shtick gets old incredibly fast in some movies.  Case in point, Nothing But Trouble. 


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: JaseSF on June 14, 2012, 01:51:50 PM
It could be a generational thing indeed as personally I do find Chase funnier than a lot of modern day popular stuff like "Family Guy", "South Park" and some Adam Sandler films (although I guess he hasn't really had a popular film in a while either).


Title: Re: Chevy Chase and National Lampoon's Vacation
Post by: HappyGilmore on June 14, 2012, 04:29:51 PM
Nothing But Trouble is likely Chase's best work outside of Caddyshack.