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Do you know him?


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 His full name is Gaius Octavius Julius Caesar Augustus, but today we remember him simply as Caesar Augustus. 2012 years ago, he was the most important man on earth. He created the Roman Empire, ending 100 years of civil war that had torn the Republic apart. He avenged his adoptive father's death at the hands of a cabal of Senators, and defeated the most popular man in Rome, Mark Antony, in order to seize supreme power. He took over a dysfunctional Republic and made the government run like a well-tuned engine. He expanded the Empire and then made peace. Four times he was able to extinguish the fires in the Temple of Mars, signifying that Rome had no foreign conflicts going anywhere. He boasted that he "found Rome a city of brick and left it a city of marble." Poets sung his praises; sculptors vied to create images of him; and a grateful Senate named him "First Citizen of Rome."
 Yet today he is primarily remembered for a single verse in the Gospel of Luke: "Now there went forth in those days a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed . . ."
 
I wonder if Augustus, in his wildest dreams, ever imagined that a child born to a destitute teenage mother in a barn surrounded by livestock, cradled in a feed trough, in a tiny village of the most insignificant province of his Empire, would become King of Kings and Lord of Lords? That history would be split in two at that moment? That he would become a mere footnote in the story of the carpenter from Galilee who would change the world in a far more lasting way? Angels sang at His birth, and the whole earth trembled at his death. The glory of Augustus is but a memory for historians, but the glory of the Lord of Hosts endures forever and ever.
 
Joy to the world, the Lord is Come!

Very nice post, Indy!  I myself admit that I had no idea who the guy was until you mentioned his name, although I have heard of Augustus Caesar before.  Looking at the face it's plain to see he was Roman (the classic nose).

Augustus indeed did change the world, but there was one yet to come who made even greater history, as His is "The Greatest Story Ever Told".  Great post, and a belated Merry Christmas, old friend.  :cheers:

 I'd like to stay and talk, but it's back to Skyrim. Oh no, here comes that dual-wielding Forsworn guy again......

I recognized AUGUSTUS CAESAR right away.  It was the Church that preserved the histories of the ancient world.  We'd know much less about Rome or any Caesar if it weren't for the copious, mindless, copying over centuries by obscure monks. 

true that, except that I don't know how "mindless" their copying was . . . virtually all of the educated men in Medieval Europe were clerics, and they were conscious of their duty to preserve what learning they could in those dark times.  And, in all fairness, Muslim scribes also preserved much of the historic record of the ancient Middle East.

I'm sure you're right regarding education in quarters.  I'm thinking of the educated scribe copying word for word, perhaps character for character, in vellum pages, over tedious hours perhaps of a language he could not read or speak.  I'm stressing the many thousands of man hours (enlightened or not) were spent attempting to preserve history. 

yeah how'd that work out

Pretty good as long as he was alive to run it - afterward, not so much.
Absolute monarchy is the BEST form of government - as long as you are the monarch!

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http://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Economics-Politics-Monarchy-Natural/dp/0765808684/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356963775&sr=8-1&keywords=democracy+the+god+that+failed

don't knock the Monarchs

So what IS the best form of government, Lester? Not trying to knock you, just curious.

I recognize Augustus Caesar but who is the other guy or "child" you seem to be referring to?

Um . . . Jesus of Nazareth.

(I assume you are jerking my chain!)

oh that guy... slightly overrated imo

the 'water into wine' trick was pretty good but you know, sometimes you just want a plain old drink of water. plus I'm allergic to red wine. he doesn't really do it for me. but I respect his steez.

There was just a bit more to Him than water into wine - and he didn't do the H2O to bubbly transformation thing often.  It would have made bathing in the house difficult!!



(If you REALLY want a better picture of what He was about, I recommend the Gospel of John)

Indiana- Zombieocracy

:teddyr:

I love you Zombie #1, but you're not being fair.  Having been raised Catholic, some of us are like a "tribe".  We may see things differently, but we are family.  We are very free in America regarding religious choice, that any acquiescence is an act of will, not family pressure (general remark, being human any of us always have particulars) or the nature of the state.  You needn't needle because of a lack of faith.  Do not take a lack of faith as a shortcoming, either, at least in my opinion.  However, you know full well that Jesus is not "overrated".  It's an affectation.  Whether absurd, hypocritical, pathetic, all avenues should be explored regarding faith.  Save indifference.  It's a choice not to know. 

Point well made, AHD, but I think he was just having a bit of fun with us.

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yeah sorry. I lapsed into trolling mode there.. could Jesus be 'overrated'? hardly...  I did read the whole of the New Testament about 15 years ago

No hard feelings to you or AHD  :thumbup:  :smile:

One of the many reasons I love Zombie #1.

I try not to know dead people, but my history classes makes me! :hatred: :tongueout: :tongueout: :tongueout: :tongueout: :tongueout: :tongueout: :tongueout: Nah, but I really don't know that much about religious figures, as I do not care that much about religion. :lookingup:

In my lifeI've went from religious,to agnostic,to full blown atheist...BUT-I still respect the beliefs of others an acknowledge the fact that Jesus Christ was a great man-a good man,and one of the most influntial people who ever lived.
A god...I dont think so...no man is a god.If so-their are lotsa "Gods"...people whose influence and teachings are followed. Budda,Mohhamad,Confucious.
Evil gods too...Satan,Hitler,Dr.Doom...(well,Dr.Doom is kinda evil god to me... :tongueout:)

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Ronny... where did you get a picture of my next door neighbor?  :buggedout: :wink: :teddyr:

I was going to yer house-gonna visit you-but this a***ole sidetracked me.He sent a giant gorrila on me and I hadda ask Iron Man to bail me out! Lifes a b***h! :drink:

RC, you are a fun guy!!  Or is it a fungi??

I prefer mushroom man,thank you. :wink:

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I wrote this for Christmas last year, and thought I would give it a bump in the spirit of the season . . .

..and here I thought that the guy you mentioned first was Caligula. :tongueout: :tongueout: nah, I'm just messing with ya. :smile:

No disrespect meant here Indy but when you say he is most well known for his being mentioned in a single verse in the Gospel of Luke I think you're seriously overlooking his contribution to the salad world.

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The Bible is full of a lot of figurative speech and metaphor. Personally, I believe that the whole "water into wine" thing was a figure of speech. Take that metaphor, note that he was also a carpenter and hence, was good with his hands. Add two and two together and you come to this logical conclusion: Jesus Christ was a microbrewer.


Think about it. Even the Ancient Egyptians were brewing beer at least 9000 years ago. The process itself is still a miracle in the eyes of countless people over the millennia. Any true Son of God had to have dabbled in the Business a bit, if only to entice a few extra followers.  :cheers:

Very nice little write up!  Its rather sad that most of what I know of him comes from HBO's Rome series. Looks like its time to get a book.

He's my dentist