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Title: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Chainsawmidget on March 15, 2013, 09:09:25 PM
There are some movies that are just defined by certain facts or a certain theme... then they have sequels that just totally don't get it at all.  This is the read for stuff like that. 

Movies like ...

Highlander where the whole point was "In the end, there can be only one."
Then it has sequels where they go "...except for these other guys we forgot about and if we send in new ones.  Ones from space." 

Then there's Halloween.  In that movie, Micheal is scary because you don't know anything abut him.  He's just a killing machine, pure and total evil.  Then it has a remake that goes into depth on Mikey's past, establishing that he's evil because he had a bad childhood and comes from a white trash family.  Awwww.... feel sorry for the guy. 

So, what else can you think of where the next movie in the series just didn't get the point of the original?


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: indianasmith on March 15, 2013, 09:17:26 PM
On HIGHLANDER, I am with you.
I actually thought that the HALLOWEEN remake was brilliant. The little kid Michael Myers was one of the most creepy characters I have ever seen.  The movie was very raw, but powerful.  However, Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN 2 was a steaming hunk of cinematic excrescence.

THE RING 2 was another sequel that utterly pooped on the original movie.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: akiratubo on March 16, 2013, 09:29:37 AM
The Grinch.  Ron Howard's stinking, runny turd of a movie threw in a backstory to make the Grinch a sympathetic character and the Whos the true villains of the piece.  He is really the one who teaches them the true meaning of Christmas.

The ENTIRE POINT of the original story is that the Grinch is a huge, misanthropic a***ole who can't stand other people being any less miserable than he is - for no reason at all.  By the end, he comes to learn that happiness is not brought about by things, but by bonds with other people.  Having learned this lesson, the Grinch becomes a better person, a friend to all, and finally is happy.

Yeah, Ron Howard's movie had pretty much exactly the opposite moral of Dr. Seuss's brilliant story - and it did even that badly.  I have simply refused to watch another Ron Howard movie since then, and I even went so far as to sell all the Ron Howard movies I owned.  The Grinch p**sed me off that much.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: ulthar on March 16, 2013, 09:43:46 AM
BLAIR WITCH 2 took a crap all over the original.

Part of what made BW work for me is that throughout, one wondered if the BW was real or just a collection of town myths.  There were some 'unexplained' odd things that had happened around the town, but what town does not have those?

The found footage angle added to that in a meta way - one had to wonder what effect the editing of the 'found footage' was having on manipulation of the story.  What was in the found footage that they did not include?  A group of college kids playing an elaborate prank on the campers?  One wonders.

BW2 threw all that out the window.  It made the witch real in a Hollywood cinematic way ... it's just another horror story about a manipulative, malevolent force.  And, it got kinda cartoonish by the end, which REALLY crapped on the original's attempt at being creative.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: zombie no.one on March 16, 2013, 10:44:33 AM
EXCORCIST 2 and TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE 2....just...wtf?


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: The Burgomaster on March 16, 2013, 11:19:22 AM
GREASE 2, STING II, and CADDYSHACK II, and SLAP SHOT 2 all come to mind.  All were obviously (and shamelessly) made for the sole purpose of cashing in on the successes of the originals and made little or no effort to maintain character and story continuity or to give audiences quality of any kind.



Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: tracy on March 16, 2013, 11:51:56 AM
GREASE 2, STING II, and CADDYSHACK II, and SLAP SHOT 2 all come to mind.  All were obviously (and shamelessly) made for the sole purpose of cashing in on the successes of the originals and made little or no effort to maintain character and story continuity or to give audiences quality of any kind.



Those three hit the nail on the head....I still can't believe that I paid to see "Grease II".


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: rebel_1812 on March 16, 2013, 12:44:44 PM
GREASE 2, STING II, and CADDYSHACK II, and SLAP SHOT 2 all come to mind.  All were obviously (and shamelessly) made for the sole purpose of cashing in on the successes of the originals and made little or no effort to maintain character and story continuity or to give audiences quality of any kind.



Isn't that the standard nowadays?  Any successful movie will have a squel.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Chainsawmidget on March 16, 2013, 01:09:00 PM
GREASE 2, STING II, and CADDYSHACK II, and SLAP SHOT 2 all come to mind.  All were obviously (and shamelessly) made for the sole purpose of cashing in on the successes of the originals and made little or no effort to maintain character and story continuity or to give audiences quality of any kind.



Isn't that the standard nowadays?  Any successful movie will have a squel.
Yeah, but most sequels at least pretend to put in some effort. 

(Also, my spellchecker change one of my horrible misspellings of sequels into "seagulls".  And yes, I'm fairly sure seagulls put more effort into things than the people that made some of those movies as well.)


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: voltron on March 16, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
I've named dropped it before, but the Black Christmas remake, besides being totally unnecessary, can stand on it's own two feet as being one of the most hideous atrocities ever committed to film.  :hatred:


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: JayJayM12 on March 16, 2013, 08:19:33 PM
I've named dropped it before, but the Black Christmas remake, besides being totally unnecessary, can stand on it's own two feet as being one of the most hideous atrocities ever committed to film.  :hatred:

I actually enjoyed the Black Christmas remake.  It certainly misses the point of the original and is in a completely different vein (so, it definitely belongs on this list), but taken on it's own, I thought it was a pretty fun, cheesy slasher flick.  Nothing special for sure, but entertaining enough...

For me, I'd throw in Die Hards #3 - 5 (getting progressively worse with each - #3 was still a good movie, but missed a lot of what made Die Hard special in the first place).


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: FatFreddysCat on March 16, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday

Nine movies in and all of a sudden someone decided that it would be a GREAT idea to give Jason Voorhees a ton of back story and family history out of nowhere.

To add insult to injury, Jason's spirit "jumps" from body to body throughout the movie, so he isn't even really "Jason" for most of the film.

This movie actually makes Jason X look good.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Chainsawmidget on March 16, 2013, 09:18:52 PM
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday

Nine movies in and all of a sudden someone decided that it would be a GREAT idea to give Jason Voorhees a ton of back story and family history out of nowhere.

To add insult to injury, Jason's spirit "jumps" from body to body throughout the movie, so he isn't even really "Jason" for most of the film.

This movie actually makes Jason X look good.
Also, Jason is now a dead-ite. 

On the plus side, it did have one of the better Jason designs and a great opening. 


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Doc Daneeka on March 17, 2013, 03:02:27 AM
No mention yet of First Blood compared with all the Rambo sequels?


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: claws on March 17, 2013, 07:38:13 AM
Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II (1987)

We are introduced to a new character named Mary Lou Maloney - a supernatural force with revenge on her mind. This sequel has nothing to do with the first movie, but it's still a fun flick nonetheless.

Most pointless remake is the Psycho (1998) remake.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: FatFreddysCat on March 17, 2013, 08:03:56 AM
On the plus side, it did have one of the better Jason designs and a great opening. 

Yeah, the opening was great, unfortunately the movie went straight down the pooper from there and stayed that way till the end.

Quote
Hello Mary Lou: Prom Night II (1987)

We are introduced to a new character named Mary Lou Maloney - a supernatural force with revenge on her mind. This sequel has nothing to do with the first movie, but it's still a fun flick nonetheless.

The only thing that tied it to the first movie was the setting - Hamilton High.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: zombie no.one on March 17, 2013, 08:08:19 AM
you would have to say HALLOWEEN III "missed the point" of the original, without necessarily slating the movie itself

I've named dropped it before, but the Black Christmas remake, besides being totally unnecessary, can stand on it's own two feet as being one of the most hideous atrocities ever committed to film.  :hatred:
I'm with you on this. There is something so fundamentally annoying about the whole tone of the remake that I found myself getting angry just watching it and bailed out after 30 minutes or so. No plans to ever watch the rest.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: MrMari on March 17, 2013, 11:22:51 AM
Blues Brothers 2000

They were brothers (Belushi and Ackroyd's characters) that was the point. Now Jake dies and Elwood goes on to recruit "honorary brothers". This movie made a mockery of the original masterpiece.  :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: JoeTheDestroyer on March 17, 2013, 12:20:43 PM
Does Pearl Harbor count?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsPrQgTO0HU

Also, can we use adapted material?  If so, then:

Resident Evil movies- Last I checked the games didn't feature a veritable superhero who could destroy satelites with her mind, nor anything equally idiotic.

High Tension- Arguable, since it was supposed to be loosely based on Dean Koontz's Intesnity, which dealt with the relevance of modern psychology to heinously insane individuals.  As smart as the book was, though, it was incredibly boring.  High Tension wasn't, but it certainly axed the references to modern psychology.  I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that it strayed from the novel.

Fight Club (the video game)- I'll let that one sink in.  It pretty much tells itself if you've seen/read Fight Club.

Godzilla (1998)- I find I'm hating this movie less and less as I get older, but it still failed to capture the spirit of Godzilla.  It managed to be a passable Hollywood-produced kaiju film, and that was about it.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: ChaosTheory on March 17, 2013, 01:26:18 PM
*insert STAR WARS rant here*


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: ulthar on March 17, 2013, 01:32:45 PM
The "sequels" to FIRST BLOOD are excellent examples.  FIRST BLOOD was a good movie with a point; the rest were just bleh.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: rebel_1812 on March 17, 2013, 02:03:57 PM
No mention yet of First Blood compared with all the Rambo sequels?

First Blood was a good film, but it was centered on the legacy of Vietnam not the action.  Rambo 2 was the best action movie ever made.  The 3rd one sucked big time.  Although in hindsight the 3rd film had a good speech about a Jihad really being a war for freedom.  Considering how the propaganda did a doublethink 180 on the Muslims in Afghanistan, I find that part humorous, its like finding part of 1984 in real life.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Couchtr26 on March 18, 2013, 12:27:30 AM
I've named dropped it before, but the Black Christmas remake, besides being totally unnecessary, can stand on it's own two feet as being one of the most hideous atrocities ever committed to film.  :hatred:

I think the only thing I liked about it was Lacey Chabert. 

Didn't like the new Conan film not that the first was stupendous but captured my idea of fantasy when I was younger.  The new one felt like a higher budget version of a TV show. 

While I like them, the Alien sequels strayed from the horror and tension and went more action. 


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Torgo on March 18, 2013, 01:05:03 PM
The recent remake of Total Recall was completely unecessary as instead of just doing their own thing and going back more to the short story, they did a pointless retread of the Verhoeven film which was already perfect to begin with.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: The Fake Macoy on March 18, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
I feel like The Thing (2011) missed the point.  It really didn't have much going for it in terms of suspense and relied too much on jump scares.  The Thing seemed like its go to plan was just "It's clobbering time!" rather than anything more subtle.  Also the whole deal with the space ship was stupid.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: akiratubo on March 18, 2013, 07:48:36 PM
I feel like The Thing (2011) missed the point.  It really didn't have much going for it in terms of suspense and relied too much on jump scares.  The Thing seemed like its go to plan was just "It's clobbering time!" rather than anything more subtle.  Also the whole deal with the space ship was stupid.

I liked the prequel and felt that the more aggressive behavior of the thing(s) in it could be attributed to the creature not having much time to learn how to deal with human prey.  The things spawned from the dog in the original movie would have been able to learn that the subtle approach was better.

Where I feel the movie really missed the point was at the end.  We obviously weren't really supposed to know whether the person being killed with the flamethrower was a thing, or if the person doing the killing was, either, for that matter.  Then some dumbass dubbed the thing's death howl into the scene, ruining the most powerful moment of the movie.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Couchtr26 on March 18, 2013, 08:05:22 PM
The recent remake of Total Recall was completely unecessary as instead of just doing their own thing and going back more to the short story, they did a pointless retread of the Verhoeven film which was already perfect to begin with.

Yeah that was pretty bad. 


I liked the prequel and felt that the more aggressive behavior of the thing(s) in it could be attributed to the creature not having much time to learn how to deal with human prey.  The things spawned from the dog in the original movie would have been able to learn that the subtle approach was better.

Where I feel the movie really missed the point was at the end.  We obviously weren't really supposed to know whether the person being killed with the flamethrower was a thing, or if the person doing the killing was, either, for that matter.  Then some dumbass dubbed the thing's death howl into the scene, ruining the most powerful moment of the movie.

I agree with you entirely on this one Akira.  I think the behavior made perfect sense considering the unknown human animal to it.  The only way a slower method would work is if it came upon the group of its own accord.  However, it was found and brought back.  The cat is out of the bag so hiding and watching would make no sense. 

The ending was terrible.  The tension from questioning would make more sense.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: SynapticBoomstick on March 20, 2013, 05:25:49 PM
Chud 2, anyone? Take a flying leap from toxic waste under New York and horribly mutated former homless folk with Stretch Armstrong bodies to- a goofy zombie wandering the... suburbs. That and the theme song with only three words.

"Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD." x Big Scary Number.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: 66Crush on March 27, 2013, 02:38:17 PM
Damn, that Black Christmas remake sure gets a lot hate. I must be the only person who liked it.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: fulci420 on March 27, 2013, 03:57:00 PM
Chud 2, anyone? Take a flying leap from toxic waste under New York and horribly mutated former homless folk with Stretch Armstrong bodies to- a goofy zombie wandering the... suburbs. That and the theme song with only three words.

"Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD." x Big Scary Number.

I read somewhere that this was originally supposed to be a return of the living dead sequel. I think in that series context it would make more sense. I like CHUD 2 though, it's one of the better horror comedies from that era, fun to put on when friends are over.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: SynapticBoomstick on March 27, 2013, 09:01:03 PM
Chud 2, anyone? Take a flying leap from toxic waste under New York and horribly mutated former homless folk with Stretch Armstrong bodies to- a goofy zombie wandering the... suburbs. That and the theme song with only three words.

"Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD." x Big Scary Number.

I read somewhere that this was originally supposed to be a return of the living dead sequel. I think in that series context it would make more sense. I like CHUD 2 though, it's one of the better horror comedies from that era, fun to put on when friends are over.

A RotLD sequel would certainly make a lot more sense, nothing about Bud fits with CHUD. Now it's got me thinking of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. That was a cool movie by itself but it has no ties to anything Final Fantasy and that bogged it down some.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: dean on March 27, 2013, 10:06:17 PM
American Psycho 2 very much missed the point , though I think it was one of Mila Kunis' first lead roles and things seemed to work out ok for her


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Ozzymandias on March 28, 2013, 12:53:03 AM
Ozzymandias speaks: Bedazzled!!! The message of the original (1967) was that Satan is arrogant, lying jerk who will cheat you, but God is always the winner and it is best to trust in Him. In the end, you will get the girl you want and Satan's will screw himself up.

The remake (2000) seem to say that Satan is a hot babe with sadistic tendancies and multiple sexy outfits. An African-American male angel will tell you that you should want what is best for the beautiful snooty chick you are in love with. Then he and Satan will introduce you to a doppleganger of the beautiful snooty girl, only with your personality (in this case a female Brendan Frasier).

Ozzymandias has spoken!!!


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Mofo Rising on March 28, 2013, 02:52:20 AM
Kind of weird, because it's the sequel to the sequel that makes a misstep.

I never watched the Mad Max films when they came out, and only saw them later.

I threw a party where we all watched the original film, Mad Max, and I was not all the impressed. It was okay, but nothing more.

Then, about a year later, I watched The Road Warrior, and damned if that is not an incredible film. I can say that The Road Warrior is an amazing piece of film-making. I loved it so much.

Then I watched, with pretty high expectations, Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome. They turned it into a kid's movie! This must have been one of the first of the new wave of PG-13 films that appeared in the '80s. Take a great and simple idea, post-apocalyptic wastelanders, and then try to make it appeal to every possible audience. The Road Warrior is amazing. It's sequel, while not exactly terrible, is a bit of a turd.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: rebel_1812 on March 29, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
Chud 2, anyone? Take a flying leap from toxic waste under New York and horribly mutated former homless folk with Stretch Armstrong bodies to- a goofy zombie wandering the... suburbs. That and the theme song with only three words.

"Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD. Bud, the CHUD." x Big Scary Number.

I read somewhere that this was originally supposed to be a return of the living dead sequel. I think in that series context it would make more sense. I like CHUD 2 though, it's one of the better horror comedies from that era, fun to put on when friends are over.

A RotLD sequel would certainly make a lot more sense, nothing about Bud fits with CHUD. Now it's got me thinking of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. That was a cool movie by itself but it has no ties to anything Final Fantasy and that bogged it down some.


All us video game folk were expecting to see the characters from the games.  When they didn't do that, the movie because just another manga film.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: ChaosTheory on March 30, 2013, 11:33:57 AM
THE LAST EXORCISM PART 2.  I mean, come on.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: SynapticBoomstick on March 31, 2013, 04:14:33 AM
THE LAST EXORCISM PART 2.  I mean, come on.

Winning.  :twirl:


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Criswell on April 03, 2013, 12:34:51 PM
THE LAST EXORCISM PART 2.  I mean, come on.

Aw come on! That has nothing on "A haunting in connecticut 2 Ghost in Georgia"


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: ChaosTheory on April 03, 2013, 12:42:53 PM
THE LAST EXORCISM PART 2.  I mean, come on.

Aw come on! That has nothing on "A haunting in connecticut 2 Ghost in Georgia"

That title is so bizarre I'm surprised Tyler Perry's name isn't attached to it.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Doc Daneeka on April 03, 2013, 01:44:36 PM
THE LAST EXORCISM PART 2.  I mean, come on.
I have not seen either film yet, but I've heard that the first's title refers to the main character's last exorcism. I guess the sequel is someone else's last exorcism?

Kind of weird, because it's the sequel to the sequel that makes a misstep.

I never watched the Mad Max films when they came out, and only saw them later.

I threw a party where we all watched the original film, Mad Max, and I was not all the impressed. It was okay, but nothing more.

Then, about a year later, I watched The Road Warrior, and damned if that is not an incredible film. I can say that The Road Warrior is an amazing piece of film-making. I loved it so much.

Then I watched, with pretty high expectations, Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome. They turned it into a kid's movie! This must have been one of the first of the new wave of PG-13 films that appeared in the '80s. Take a great and simple idea, post-apocalyptic wastelanders, and then try to make it appeal to every possible audience. The Road Warrior is amazing. It's sequel, while not exactly terrible, is a bit of a turd.
Robocop 3 does the same thing, although many people hated part 2 as well.

From your opening, I thought you might be referring to Terminator 3, which misses one of the biggest points in Terminator 2.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: ChaosTheory on April 03, 2013, 02:05:48 PM
THE LAST EXORCISM PART 2.  I mean, come on.
I have not seen either film yet, but I've heard that the first's title refers to the main character's last exorcism. I guess the sequel is someone else's last exorcism?


From what I understand, it involves the person they were attempting to exorcise in the first movie, though I have not actually seen Part 2.  (I liked the first one until it went all screwy in the final scene.)



And then there's the HELLRAISER series.  They stopped having anything to do with Pinhead, what, 6 movies ago?


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Jaer on May 03, 2013, 03:36:18 PM
A RotLD sequel would certainly make a lot more sense, nothing about Bud fits with CHUD. Now it's got me thinking of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. That was a cool movie by itself but it has no ties to anything Final Fantasy and that bogged it down some.

Actually, I think the point of it being a Final Fantasy (without moogles, chokabos, and summons) is the idea of the earth (Gaia) healing herself from some outside force, usually because of aid given by the protagonist. This has been a theme of many Final Fantasy games.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: El Misfit on May 04, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
THE LAST EXORCISM PART 2.  I mean, come on.

That was filmed down the street I live on  :cheers:


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: 316zombie on May 21, 2013, 09:18:24 PM
first let me say,i worship at johnny depp's feet,he's one of the most versatile actors i've seen since jack nicholson was young.BUT...
i absloutely HATE charlie and the chocolate factory.i'm sticking with gene wilder as willy wonka,forever.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Javakoala on May 22, 2013, 08:52:35 AM

Didn't like the new Conan film not that the first was stupendous but captured my idea of fantasy when I was younger.  The new one felt like a higher budget version of a TV show. 


I understand people feel I'm tinkling on Arnie's Conan when I say that I really liked the new Conan movie, but here's why I feel that way: The newer movie is closer to the actual stories as written by Howard. Conan was a character driven by his appetites and by his sense to honor to those who helped him. He didn't ponder much of anything. The pondering came when he was much older and became king. Arnie's Conan gave us WAY too many scenes of him thinking. Not something Howard's Conan would do in his younger days.

On another point in favor of the new Conan, he looks more like a person who fights, climbs, runs, etc. Arnie looked like the bloated Conan from the comics, which was all muscles and no reality. The new Conan wasn't bulked up. I could easily believe he could do all the things his character did. Arnie...his thighs would likely rub themselves raw if he ran very much. And swinging a sword does NOT give you super-bulky muscles.



Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: RCMerchant on May 22, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
The new EVIL DEAD movie. Too high tech.Not even a little bit of humor.
Surprise that know one has mentioned Van Sants PSYCHO piece of s**t.
DEATHRACE--AHHH! The reason DEATHRACE 2000 was so classic is that it was hilarious! Machine Gun Joe  killed me!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2GEKV1dOgY


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: dean on May 22, 2013, 10:22:19 AM
You know if it wasn't "Death Race" I would've enjoyed it as a movie more.  As it was it was a pretty ok actioner.  But as a Death Race film, well, I wanted them to bring the crazy and they didn't.  Maybe it's one of those 'time and place' movies which exist and are better in the 70s than if they were done now [those reporters were damn hilarious]


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Chainsawmidget on May 22, 2013, 03:18:52 PM
The new EVIL DEAD movie. Too high tech.Not even a little bit of humor.
Surprise that know one has mentioned Van Sants PSYCHO piece of s**t.

I wouldn't say Psycho missed the point.  It's just that it has no reason to exist.  It's a shot by shot remake of the first without the charm or talent or the original.  If it had done anything other than just copy what was already done, maybe you could say it missed the point, but it really didn't offer anything new... except maybe a cow. 


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Olivia Bauer on May 31, 2013, 01:13:19 PM
Highlander II, Highlander: Endgame, and Highlander: The Source.

All of these movies contradict the simple concept of Highlander and only make more plot holes.


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: 66Crush on June 11, 2013, 05:59:00 AM
first let me say,i worship at johnny depp's feet,he's one of the most versatile actors i've seen since jack nicholson was young.BUT...
i absloutely HATE charlie and the chocolate factory.i'm sticking with gene wilder as willy wonka,forever.

Maybe if people would stop worshiping Depp, he'd be less of a douche! He's brilliant but I'm sick of him!


Title: Re: Sequels and Re-makes that Missed the Point
Post by: Robocop on June 12, 2013, 01:09:07 AM
Does a George Lucusfied "updated" Director's Cut count?

The 2004 Director's Cut might have the bells and whistles that are lacking in the orignal cut, but its a simple case of style over substance trying to modernize the movie with CGI which for the most part looks bad, doesn't seamlessly flow with the jarring 1971 production values and contradicts a lot of the themes and messages in the film in regards to technology. One of the elements that made THX 1138 so impressive in the first place was just how much Lucus achieved with so little in terms of experience and finances, it really is a striking unique piece of visual filmmaking that the Director's Cut just turns in to something thats conventional and generic to cattle in with modern times.