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Title: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: zombie #1 on September 12, 2013, 07:33:39 AM
Here's a news story you might have heard, it's not the kind of thing you want to read over your cornflakes, but this Daily Mail (UK newspaper but the website is one of the most viewed worldwide) article doesn't waste much time connecting this guy's plans, and his DVD collection

Here's the full story: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2417572/Geoffrey-Portway-dungeon-First-pictures-torture-dungeon-British-man-planned-rape-murder-eat-children-beneath-Massachusetts-house.html

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Sick: Portway's DVD collection contained much inspiration for the gruesome things he planned to carry out


Even if they're just making a casual connection, somehow I thought we'd gone beyond this kind of idiotic stereotyping/prejudice...obviously not.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Bushma on September 12, 2013, 08:08:50 AM
HA!  Of course the movies made him do it.  I'd like to borrow some of those though!  V the complete series!  That's awesome.

Oh what's The Real Cannibal Holocaust?


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Flangepart on September 12, 2013, 08:10:06 AM
Cause his actions? No.
Exacerbate his seriously messed up 'programming' Yes.
Once he chose to go that way, I'm sure the 'ideas' the movies gave him guided his plotting.
Kinda like...well, how what happened on 9/11 made me think of Tom Clancy's novel 'Debt of Honor.'


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 12, 2013, 08:33:49 AM
No one should be surprised a cannibal has a collection of cannibalism related movies. But where is DELICATESSEN, or A BOY AND HIS DOG? The guy obviously didn't have particularly good taste.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: LilCerberus on September 12, 2013, 01:14:56 PM
"If it's not going to be a book, it's going to be something else. Crazy is crazy." - Stephen King


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Chainsaw midget on September 12, 2013, 04:05:16 PM
I don't know.  They may have a point. 

For instance, I know after watching Battlfield Earth, I wanted to destroy mankind. 


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Flangepart on September 13, 2013, 08:32:19 AM
I don't know.  They may have a point. 

For instance, I know after watching Battlfield Earth, I wanted to destroy mankind. 
No need to go that far. Hollywood would do nicely as a target.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: tracy on September 13, 2013, 12:18:22 PM
A mind gone very wrong that needs an excuse or a reason or an alibi......so sad.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Javakoala on September 14, 2013, 04:56:45 AM
No one should be surprised a cannibal has a collection of cannibalism related movies. But where is DELICATESSEN, or A BOY AND HIS DOG? The guy obviously didn't have particularly good taste.

Rev...ouch. Bad pun there.

Actually, it almost put me on the floor from laughing.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: El Misfit on September 14, 2013, 11:24:23 AM
Society- Blame the Video Games, Blame the Movies, Blame the Music, But Whatever you do, Don't Blame the Psychological aspect.

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Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on September 14, 2013, 02:10:16 PM
I don't know.  They may have a point. 

For instance, I know after watching Battlfield Earth, I wanted to destroy mankind. 

Yeah, just like after I watched Batman on TV as a kid...I wanted to go out and start choregraphed fistfights with everyone....


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Fishasaurus on September 14, 2013, 06:31:28 PM
The FBI profilers (at least I remember it being them) did a study on this, and what they figured out is that people have much, much more leisure time than they used to -- instead of working 12-hours days every day of the week, they can now sit back and fantasize for hours every day.  And a few of those people are going to have really messed-up fantasies.  And a few of THOSE are going to go out and act on those ideas.

The thing they didn't mention in the study is that people are a lot more isolated and don't need each other for survival the way they used to.  And they['re so mobile -- the world is full of strangers.  Notice how serial killers almost never kill people they know?  It's easier to treat a stranger that way.  And think of Pee Wee Gaskins, who killed many total strangers and a few people in his own family and neighborhood.  He called the latter victims his "real murders."  The others were just meaningless entertainment for him.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Green on September 14, 2013, 07:41:25 PM
I've watched certain movies in the past that have directly influenced me to call up an ex lady friend just to see if I could still bang her.  I'm not blaming nor praising the movie, I'm just saying there may be a correlation there.

I don't think it's the movie's fault for my ego trips any more than it's my fault for actively seeking out a particular movie for whatever. The action I take because of having watched the film is literally of my own doing, but the affect of my action is literally of the filmmaker's mind.

So to say a movie isn't part of the problem just because you're not effected in the same way as a person who is, isn't a very good argument. Millions of people can watch the same movie without any problem what so ever, but what difference does that make to someone who does have problems afterwards?

I do however have a problem with censorship. I think if the statistics aren't there to quantify censorship, then it should be case closed. An ex: if 7 out of 10 people rob a bank after eating [__] then we should probably take a closer look at [__], whereas if 1 out of a 100, 000 people go out and kill a random stranger after watching [__] then we should just leave it be.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: dean on September 15, 2013, 07:07:30 AM
I've watched certain movies in the past that have directly influenced me to call up an ex lady friend just to see if I could still bang her. 


I'm curious as to what movie that was.  The She Beast?

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Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Green on September 15, 2013, 08:21:37 AM
That'd be the one.  :tongueout:


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: indianasmith on September 15, 2013, 08:27:52 AM
I have said for years - movies, music, and video games will never make a good person go bad.  However, they can sometimes take a person who is psychologically damaged and make the problem a bit worse.  That being said, as Stephen King noted, crazy is crazy.   If it's not a movie, it'll be a book, or a game, or a song, or somebody on the subway that looked at him the wrong way . . . .


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Paquita on September 15, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
In 2008, when I was watching Norbit (don't judge me, it was on cable and I couldn't reach the remote), I learned that I was pregnant when Rasputia was complaining about (spoilers coming) the symptoms of her supposed pregnancy, and I realized I was experiencing some of the same symptoms!   I don't know what this has to do with anything, but I think I'm going to blame Norbit.


Title: Re: Here we go again, movies to 'blame' for sicko's actions
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on September 17, 2013, 03:59:29 PM
In 2008, when I was watching Norbit (don't judge me, it was on cable and I couldn't reach the remote), I learned that I was pregnant when Rasputia was complaining about (spoilers coming) the symptoms of her supposed pregnancy, and I realized I was experiencing some of the same symptoms!   I don't know what this has to do with anything, but I think I'm going to blame Norbit.


That's all and well, but after you made a certain statement (and a very famous one here at the forum)  how are you going to account for every man who goes out and closes their eyes and squeezes every pack of Snoballs he sees on the shelf?  Now that's some explaining to do....:twirl: :bouncegiggle: