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Title: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Bushma on September 23, 2013, 01:23:41 PM
http://myfox8.com/2013/09/23/man-aims-to-create-white-supremacist-town-in-north-dakota/

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Paul Craig Cobb wants to transform Leith, population 24, into a community that mirrors his white supremacist views.

This weekend, white supremacists and others are expected to descend on the town in a show of support for him.

Cobb said he envisions Leith as a place where white nationalist banners will be flown, where white culture would be celebrated, and where minorities would not be welcome.



Just amazing that there are still A-Holes like this.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: tracy on September 23, 2013, 01:34:54 PM
I was sure hoping we'd be past this sort of nonsense by now....come on! Explain to me why one race would be superior to another because of skin color. And don't give me some biblical quotes because you should know better. Besides,I myself am in a "mixed" marriage and have never been happier. I have known poopheads of many races so you're proving nothing.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: alandhopewell on September 23, 2013, 01:41:47 PM
I was sure hoping we'd be past this sort of nonsense by now....come on! Explain to me why one race would be superior to another because of skin color. And don't give me some biblical quotes because you should know better. Besides,I myself am in a "mixed" marriage and have never been happier. I have known poopheads of many races so you're proving nothing.


     The very mind-set of such individuals puts the lie to thier alleged "supremacy".

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Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on September 23, 2013, 03:15:11 PM
While not common, it is not unknown for one group or another to take over a town or try to take over a town, so they can espouse their beliefs, whatever they may be. A number of years ago--and I can no longer remember the time, the exact place, nor the exact group, but maybe someone else can--an eastern religious cult took over a small town in Oregon, and there was not much the original inhabitants could do, as they were  badly outnumbered by the newly arrived cultees. The cult only came a cropper when they also tried to take over the county, where the town was located. There being far more county residents, then original townees.

The ones I feel sorry for are the 24 residents of Leith, as they most probably do not share all the views of the people who want to take over their town. Though, if they are outnumbered, I doubt if there is much they can do to stop the takeover of their town. My interest also lies in the story, because I still have family members, from my father's side of the family, who still live in North Dakota. Though, I don't know whether there are any in Leith or near Leith.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: El Misfit on September 23, 2013, 11:19:33 PM
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Another great s**tstorm for our times. REALLY?!


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Bushma on September 24, 2013, 09:13:20 AM
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Gandalf The White Supremacist?

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Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: tracy on September 24, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
While not common, it is not unknown for one group or another to take over a town or try to take over a town, so they can espouse their beliefs, whatever they may be. A number of years ago--and I can no longer remember the time, the exact place, nor the exact group, but maybe someone else can--an eastern religious cult took over a small town in Oregon, and there was not much the original inhabitants could do, as they were  badly outnumbered by the newly arrived cultees. The cult only came a cropper when they also tried to take over the county, where the town was located. There being far more county residents, then original townees.

The ones I feel sorry for are the 24 residents of Leith, as they most probably do not share all the views of the people who want to take over their town. Though, if they are outnumbered, I doubt if there is much they can do to stop the takeover of their town. My interest also lies in the story, because I still have family members, from my father's side of the family, who still live in North Dakota. Though, I don't know whether there are any in Leith or near Leith.

If I was there and couldn't make them go away then I'd move. Racism makes me so mad.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Trevor on September 25, 2013, 04:34:00 AM
We unfortunately already have a town like that in South Africa called 'Orania'. Bunch of morons living there.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: El Misfit on September 25, 2013, 08:09:26 AM
We unfortunately already have a town like that in South Africa called 'Orania'. Bunch of morons living there.

Pretty sure any member of a white supremacist is a moron, and all of them must be compensating for something (with guys, /cough small penis/cough)


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Green on September 25, 2013, 09:05:47 AM
White person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Black person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Homosexual person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around heterosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with straight people. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.
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The protocol of honesty, huh?


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 25, 2013, 11:59:17 AM
White person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Black person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Homosexual person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around heterosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with straight people. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.
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The protocol of honesty, huh?

In your hypotheticals, the people involved are only hurting themselves. But we should still mock such attitudes for their superficiality. Life isn't about being comfortable by only hanging out with people who are just like us. A life worth living requires being occasionally uncomfortable by voluntarily exposing ourselves to different ideas and perspectives.

So, yeah, there's definitely "something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race." It cheapens the definition of what it means to be human.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Green on September 25, 2013, 12:25:40 PM
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In your hypotheticals, the people involved are only hurting themselves.
Says who, you? Okay, well who are you to say this; you speak for every other person on the planet, I suppose?
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But we should still mock such attitudes for their superficiality.
So you think we should mock people because they want to feel comfortable, or because you don't like the way they feel comfortable about themselves?

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Life isn't about being comfortable by only hanging out with people who are just like us. A life worth living requires being occasionally uncomfortable by voluntarily exposing ourselves to different ideas and perspectives.
You mean a life worth living according to what's worked for you, so far?

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So, yeah, there's definitely "something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race." It cheapens the definition of what it means to be human.

You argue from a place of authority where none actually exist, outside of your own bias. That's conjunction, but if it's what makes you comfortable then who am I, or anyone else to judge your happiness by it?


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 25, 2013, 12:31:35 PM
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In your hypotheticals, the people involved are only hurting themselves.
Says who, you? Okay, well who are you to say this; you speak for every other person on the planet, I suppose?
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But we should still mock such attitudes for their superficiality.
So you think we should mock people because they want to feel comfortable, or because you don't like the way they feel comfortable about themselves?

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Life isn't about being comfortable by only hanging out with people who are just like us. A life worth living requires being occasionally uncomfortable by voluntarily exposing ourselves to different ideas and perspectives.
You mean a life worth living according to what's worked for you, so far?

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So, yeah, there's definitely "something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race." It cheapens the definition of what it means to be human.

You argue from a place of authority where none actually exist, outside of your own bias. That's conjunction, but if it's what makes you comfortable then who am I, or anyone else to judge your happiness by it?

Sorry, I won't bite. I stated my principles but I have no wish to get dragged into a fruitless argument with you.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Green on September 25, 2013, 12:37:30 PM
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Sorry, I won't bite. I stated my principles but I have no wish to get dragged into a fruitless argument with you.

It wouldn't have been fruitless nor an argument, these question weren't even meant to be literal per se. I never once said how I actually felt about it, but clearly you think you already know.  :cheers: No hard feeling, boss.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: alandhopewell on September 25, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
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In your hypotheticals, the people involved are only hurting themselves.

Says who, you? Okay, well who are you to say this; you speak for every other person on the planet, I suppose?
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But we should still mock such attitudes for their superficiality.

So you think we should mock people because they want to feel comfortable, or because you don't like the way they feel comfortable about themselves?

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Life isn't about being comfortable by only hanging out with people who are just like us. A life worth living requires being occasionally uncomfortable by voluntarily exposing ourselves to different ideas and perspectives.

You mean a life worth living according to what's worked for you, so far?

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So, yeah, there's definitely "something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race." It cheapens the definition of what it means to be human.


You argue from a place of authority where none actually exist, outside of your own bias. That's conjunction, but if it's what makes you comfortable then who am I, or anyone else to judge your happiness by it?


      There actually is no scientific or Biblical basis for the concept of "race"; there are merely genetic variatiions in one species, Homo sapiens sapiens. Even if there were, the past several centuries of people basically hooking up with whomever tends to make the concept of a "pure race " nonsencical, at best.



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     Besides, who can argue with the results?


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Mofo Rising on September 26, 2013, 06:01:58 AM
White person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Black person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Homosexual person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around heterosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with straight people. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.
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The protocol of honesty, huh?

Clearly you think you are smarter than the room. Go away, troll.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Green on September 26, 2013, 07:25:31 AM
 
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Clearly you think you are smarter than the room. Go away, troll.

I wasn't trolling, and I'm not going away. Nothing I said even hints at my having thought I was smarter than anyone else, so don't project your insecurity onto me. Are we done here, slick?



Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 26, 2013, 08:38:26 AM
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Clearly you think you are smarter than the room. Go away, troll.

I wasn't trolling, and I'm not going away. Nothing I said even hints at my having thought I was smarter than anyone else, so don't project your insecurity onto me. Are we done here, slick?


If you are not a troll and don't want to be mistaken for one, then think about why you are coming across that way and how you could be more pleasant and civil in your conversations.

First hint: do not call old-timers who call you out for violating the norms of a forum in which you are a newcomer "boss," "slick," "ace" or other sarcastic names.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Newt on September 26, 2013, 08:45:06 AM
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Sorry, I won't bite. I stated my principles but I have no wish to get dragged into a fruitless argument with you.

It wouldn't have been fruitless nor an argument, these question weren't even meant to be literal per se. I never once said how I actually felt about it, but clearly you think you already know.  :cheers: No hard feeling, boss.

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I wasn't trolling, and I'm not going away. Nothing I said even hints at my having thought I was smarter than anyone else, so don't project your insecurity onto me. Are we done here, slick?

Awfully aggressive for not being a troll.  And a few of those comments seem to define trolling. :lookingup:  Respectful discussion of contentious issues is not discouraged here; if you truly have an interest in continuing to explore the topic you might experience more success if you adjust your tone.



Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Green on September 26, 2013, 08:53:42 AM
If you are not a troll and don't want to be mistaken for one, then think about why you are coming across that way and how you could be more pleasant and civil in your conversations.

First hint: do not call old-timers who call you out for violating the norms of a forum in which you are a newcomer "boss," "slick," "ace" or other sarcastic names.
With you I was only being coy, but one of your 'old-timers' openly insulted me on a personal level. Are you old-timers in the habit of calling anyone you disagree with, a troll?

Also, I haven't violated any norm. So what the hell are you even talking about?

@other comment: Adjust my tone, huh? You can hear me speak through typed words, then. That's quite a talent, you'll have to teach me how to read another person's emotion through the computer?


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Rev. Powell on September 26, 2013, 09:34:59 AM
If you are not a troll and don't want to be mistaken for one, then think about why you are coming across that way and how you could be more pleasant and civil in your conversations.

First hint: do not call old-timers who call you out for violating the norms of a forum in which you are a newcomer "boss," "slick," "ace" or other sarcastic names.
With you I was only being coy, but one of your 'old-timers' openly insulted me on a personal level. Are you old-timers in the habit of calling anyone you disagree with, a troll?

Also, I haven't violated any norm. So what the hell are you even talking about?

@other comment: Adjust my tone, huh? You can hear me speak through typed words, then. That's quite a talent, you'll have to teach me how to read another person's emotion through the computer?

Just thought I'd offer you some advice on getting along here. It would be better for you and for us if we all got along.

I suggest we let this thread die naturally before it has to be locked.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Green on September 26, 2013, 10:36:36 AM
Okay, I'll stay out of the thread.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: zelmo73 on October 01, 2013, 10:24:12 AM
White person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Black person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around homosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with homosexuals. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.

Homosexual person: Is there something wrong with wanting to be around your own race, supporting your own race and actively searching out ways to better your own race, as long as it's not at the expense of harming other races? Just a general question.

I don't mind being around other races, I don't really mind being around heterosexuals either, but I'd rather hang out with my own race and not hang out at all with straight people. Does this make me a racist bigot, maybe, but I wish no ill will towards any man or women, regardless of their race or sexual orientation. I just feel more comfortable with those like me.
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The protocol of honesty, huh?

How's this for protocol? Homosexuals are not a race. Just thought that I'd point that out to you. Okay, now this thread can die.


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Green on October 01, 2013, 12:06:39 PM
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How's this for protocol? Homosexuals are not a race. Just thought that I'd point that out to you. Okay, now this thread can die.

Homosexuals are from all races, that's why I worded it the way I did. Next time you want to fault me, make sure you know what you're talking about. Don't bring me back into this thread, and don't you dare blame me if it gets locked. /re


Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: ChaosTheory on October 01, 2013, 12:56:48 PM

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Title: Re: White supremacist wants town in North Dakota
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on October 01, 2013, 03:18:37 PM

Warning: soapbox ahead, standing room only:

As far as the premise of "individuals hurting themselves" as was mentioned earlier, I think it's only fair to highlight the negative impact the Obama admin. has had on race relations. They have NOT helped. Let's go back to the New Black Panther Party and the voter intimidation the night of Obama's election.

They walked scot-free, despite felony weapons possession, simple assault, and violation of Federal laws on voting.  And Eric Holder said that the crime should have been prosecuted under Bush since Obama wasn't president yet. And just how would that look if the most-hated president laid the law down on black individuals? The media would have had a fuc*ing FIELD DAY.  As well, had the actors been white, we know where they would be right now.

I find this incredibly hypocritical. More-so in light of Holder's "America is a nation of cowards" speech on race relations as he backs down to the NBPP and lays the decision on the Bush time table.

It's not that we're cowards, we just get sick of being pigeon-holed every time we try to point out bad behavior on the other side.  Thusly, people who are understandably angered by this treatment are being profiled for normal anger-mechanism reaction to a frustrating situation with no end in sight or no way to open dialogue, while the other side has a mound of excuses to draw from as the usual actors step up to the plate to represent them.

It's no wonder such deep lines have been drawn in the sand. I think this is a fair statement. Thanks for listening.