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I know this was discussed under "Good Movies", but I finally saw this on DVD, and I was really surprised at how BAD it was.

Granted, the production values are high and the actors did their jobs pretty well, but there's only so much you can do with such a weak story.

Everything about it is blatantly derivative of earlier Star Trek: "Space Seed", The Wrath of Khan, and The Undiscovered Country. I didn't feel like there was any originality in the new spin.

And everything is SO overdone. Toward the end I was getting really tired and wishing the damn thing would just be OVER.

Well, I was going to buy the DVD but I won't now. Thanks for saving me some money, Ted.

Definitely the worst theater experience I had in 2013. Adding to the frustration I decided to pay for two of my friends and with the 3d this POS movie cost me nearly 60$. Script was horrible, 3d was horrible I just hated every second. Way too many action set pieces makes rather impressive sfx completely uninteresting.

A thousand times this!  I thought the 2009 Trek was pretty bad but Into Darkness was like having someone shout in your face for over two hours.

There was a good movie in there somewhere, it just didn't end up on screen.

If you remember, in the first reboot they used the excuse of Spock altering time and creating a parallel universe when he got caught in the black hole to compensate for all the Trekkies that were inevitably going to b***h about J.J. Abrams mucking up Star Trek and ruining the characters' original stories. So Into Darkness was playing off of that alternate timeline motif by paralleling the events that happened in Wrath of Khan (Kirk dying in the warp core instead of Spock, for example).

That doesn't give the movie any excuse for sucking though. But at least that part was pretty easy to explain away.

Be fair not EVERYTHING about it was terrible. It did have those two girls with the tails!

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Of course. But yet he seems to bend over backwards to shoe-horn little pieces of original Trek memorabilia into the reboot. Why is there a tribble in this movie? No reason, except JJ wanted to throw it in for Trekkies who liked "The Trouble with Tribbles".

Part of the "sin" of JJ's scripts is that he went to great lengths to excuse himself from having to stick to established Star Trek continuity, but then failed do anything original with that freedom.

To each his own.  I really enjoyed this one!

I'm with Indie on this one. I enjoyed it. I'm a huge Star Trek fan; still, when it comes to the new movies, as long as they don't bore me, I'm fairly good.

It is true they could have delivered a better scripted movie, but it had the required "peg" scenes that held up some of the more awkward ones. I want to see a ST movie with a script like a top-drawer James Bond film: fast, tight and loads of fun. (Actually, that sounds like a good date!)

And I take these new films to be like ST:TNG during the first season. That first season almost tanked the show with its endless retreads/reboots of old storylines from the original series. I don't think they want to go radical too fast with these movies, either. Hopefully the third one will make a major change so it can stand on its own 2 feet.

As long as they don't bring the Cloverfield alien into one of the movies....stupid, stupid ending to a decent movie.

Haven't seen it on DVD/BD yet, but I watched it in the cinema and I honestly enjoyed it. Not a huge Star Trek-Fan, but I like most of the movies. Star Trek 6 might be my favourite after 2, so I liked the idea of combining those together with a twist. Also having two of my most favourite Actors in it (Cumberbatch and Urban) was just the cherry on the cake.

Well,maybe I'm just a fuddy duddy but I hated the first one so much that I refused to even give this one a chance.

It's far from unwatchable. It bugs me more because I'm a Trek fan who has seen just about everything JJ used as source material, which makes me jaded about how he rather lazily spun things together. If I had less background, that aspect wouldn't bother me so much.

There's no excuse for the excessively long action sequences, though. They become tiresome and boring long before they end.

I greatly enjoyed it as well, as I wrote in the Good Movies subforum.  Perhaps because I haven't had a lot of exposure to the original ST materials, and therefore had little foreknowledge or expectations of this and the previous movie? 

I've only seen a handful of original ST episodes, and my experience with the movies is limited to the first two or three, and I saw II and III only as a kid.  All I remember of them is getting the screaming heebie-jeebies when Khan put the slugs into the officers' ears, and Shatner woefully emoting as Spock lay dying in the core chamber.

That's exactly why I went *D'OH* when I found out who the villain was.  :thumbdown: