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Title: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: daveblackeye15 on May 16, 2014, 12:33:59 PM
AKA God'szilla is Not Dead.

Back in 1998 I was 11 years old or so and I saw the first American Godzilla on the big screen. I was very disappointed since even then I was a huge Godzilla fan. Flashforward to a while ago and I was nervous they were not going to do Godzilla justice again. The trailer made me hopeful but I went in with low hopes.

Folks: this is more like it.

Now it is isn't perfect at all but I had a great time. Godzilla does not have a whole lot of screen time and I can understand people disliking it. They put a whole lot of atmosphere in it and take a less is more approach that I really like after all. I didn't mind the human characters either and unlike Final Wars getting in the way of the monster action they handled it much better here.

If I saw this in 1998 I would have been really happy I think.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on May 16, 2014, 09:40:53 PM
AKA God'szilla is Not Dead.

Back in 1998 I was 11 years old or so and I saw the first American Godzilla on the big screen. I was very disappointed since even then I was a huge Godzilla fan. Flashforward to a while ago and I was nervous they were not going to do Godzilla justice again. The trailer made me hopeful but I went in with low hopes.

Folks: this is more like it.

Now it is isn't perfect at all but I had a great time. Godzilla does not have a whole lot of screen time and I can understand people disliking it. They put a whole lot of atmosphere in it and take a less is more approach that I really like after all. I didn't mind the human characters either and unlike Final Wars getting in the way of the monster action they handled it much better here.

If I saw this in 1998 I would have been really happy I think.

I went to see it tonight and I agree, this new movie blew the 1998 movie out of the water and out of the park at the same time!   Godzilla looked really good. I hope the original actors from the 1954 film who are no longer with us (Akihiko Hirata and Takashi Shimura among them) are looking down from Heaven and saying, "Good job!"


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: indianasmith on May 17, 2014, 01:37:48 AM
I got to see this movie with my newly graduated Senior class . . . they reserved the theater for 11:00 PM, and two hours after they tossed their caps, the entire class was there with friends, family, and teachers to take in this awesome movie event.

No spoilers from me but . . . TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!

Godzilla is freakin' HUGE in this one!
And the fight sequences ROCK!!!


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: daveblackeye15 on May 17, 2014, 02:13:11 AM
I arrived forty minutes before the previews and 3/4th of the theater was already full. People cheered and clappedm including me, during certain moments.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on May 17, 2014, 07:36:35 AM
I got to see this movie with my newly graduated Senior class . . . they reserved the theater for 11:00 PM, and two hours after they tossed their caps, the entire class was there with friends, family, and teachers to take in this awesome movie event.

No spoilers from me but . . . TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!

Godzilla is freakin' HUGE in this one!
And the fight sequences ROCK!!!

Indeed it was worth it!  A very nice reboot of the story, and I'm not sure if you guys got to see them, but there were little references in the movie to a certain other Toho titan, as well as a very familiar creature on one of the dinosaur posters.  Oooo, but I would be telling if I gave it away, wouldn't I?   :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: VenomX73 on May 17, 2014, 01:27:04 PM
Cant believe I have to wait 1 more week... can't go without wife.  :lookingup:


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on May 17, 2014, 02:52:43 PM
Cant believe I have to wait 1 more week... can't go without wife.  :lookingup:

Yeah, most guys I know say they'd rather face Godzilla than do something w\o the wife knowing about it...  :buggedout:


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: indianasmith on May 18, 2014, 10:40:48 PM
Got out and saw this one again tonight.  Great movie!!!


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Trevor on May 19, 2014, 04:38:10 AM
[Prepares to duck a hail of shoes] I hear Matthew Broderick's in it......  :wink: :wink:


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Andrew on May 19, 2014, 08:02:57 AM
A bit of a spoiler here.  So do not read if you haven't seen it:










My one complaint about the monster battles is that I wanted them to be "more" when Godzilla killed each MUTO.  It seemed like they fought and fought, without causing serious injuries to each other, then Godzilla abruptly killed his opponents.  When Godzilla crushed the male MUTO into the skyscraper, I wanted it to be an initial brutal strike, then a number of follow-ups that pounded his foe to death.  The same with his victory over the female, I wished for that to be a horrific death struggle that crushed the MUTO before the mortal blow.

A good example of what I'm thinking of is in Pacific Rim when Leatherback and Otachi gang up on Chernov Alpha.  That ends with the destruction of the Jaeger, and is exactly the sort of dynamic that I wanted to see when Godzilla defeated the MUTOs.  Relentless and brutal, displaying the sort of power needed to vanquish another giant opponent.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Godzilla, but if I could make it perfect for me - that's what I would change.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: The Burgomaster on May 19, 2014, 02:43:59 PM
I thought this movie was disappointing.  Boring hero, no suspense, and not enough Godzilla until the final 30 minutes.  It was the #1 movie in the U.S. over the weekend and I expect ticket sales to drop off rather quickly. 


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: daveblackeye15 on May 19, 2014, 03:05:34 PM
I admit is isn't perfect but I do like the less is more approach with Godzilla. Also I hear the budget was a bit smaller compared to other big huge summer blockbusters.

Perhaps the sequel will give us a little more Godzilla? I also liked hte tone down breathe weapon, three was the bare minimum I hoped for, two would have been just lazy. Heisei Godzilla films had the monster rely way too much on his breathe weapon and I like a Godzilla that fights mostly melee and sometimes spits fire. Also liked that it was kind of whispy and reminded me of his early Showa, not a big concentrated beam weapon.

I certainly felt way more satisfied after this one than the last American Godzilla film and the last Japanese one. The American one is just, well, wrong, no Godzilla at all and I liked only the French agent and a few bit characters. Final Wars had some awesome ideas and scenes but even to this day I still wrestle with it, the damn human action at the took up way too much time with Godzilla feeling like an after thought then they spead through the fight with Keizer Ghidorah.

A shame too since I really liked how light that suit was with the idea being that Godzilla fought like he did in the 70s. At least with this one it felt like we had two conflicts at once that helped each other.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Umaril Has Returned on May 20, 2014, 08:25:39 AM
A bit of a spoiler here.  So do not read if you haven't seen it:










My one complaint about the monster battles is that I wanted them to be "more" when Godzilla killed each MUTO.  It seemed like they fought and fought, without causing serious injuries to each other, then Godzilla abruptly killed his opponents.  When Godzilla crushed the male MUTO into the skyscraper, I wanted it to be an initial brutal strike, then a number of follow-ups that pounded his foe to death.  The same with his victory over the female, I wished for that to be a horrific death struggle that crushed the MUTO before the mortal blow.

A good example of what I'm thinking of is in Pacific Rim when Leatherback and Otachi gang up on Chernov Alpha.  That ends with the destruction of the Jaeger, and is exactly the sort of dynamic that I wanted to see when Godzilla defeated the MUTOs.  Relentless and brutal, displaying the sort of power needed to vanquish another giant opponent.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed Godzilla, but if I could make it perfect for me - that's what I would change.

I'll go with that one, Andrew. There needed to be more brutality to the fights and some more ass whippin' by our Big Green Guy. As it stood, it wasn't a bad movie.

Another thing I'll say is that Godzilla's breath weapon looked too much like real flames, they could have made it like a cone like they did in all the movies, with just slight flickering flames around the edges.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Andrew on May 20, 2014, 09:00:17 AM
Another thing I'll say is that Godzilla's breath weapon looked too much like real flames, they could have made it like a cone like they did in all the movies, with just slight flickering flames around the edges.

I was actually OK with it looking like a stream of nuclear plasma.  Wished it left scars on the MUTO, or some other sign of visible injury (along with the side effects for humans in the area).  Perhaps there were injuries to the MUTO and I missed them while trying to take in the whole movie.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: daveblackeye15 on May 20, 2014, 05:05:16 PM
I was actually expecting the breathe weapon, if it was going to appear, to be more like the GMK's version: super powerful. I figured Godzilla would use it only a few times but each time there would massive amounts of radiation in the air, spreading for miles, nearly everything and so on for days.

I don't mind the this turned down burning version, very much like his Kong/Mothra movies.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Trevor on May 21, 2014, 08:37:57 AM
It opened here last week: should I see it in 3D or 2D?


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Andrew on May 21, 2014, 09:01:53 AM
We saw it in 3D, but having seen it, I found myself thinking that I would have been happy seeing it on a regular screen.  The 3D was not "in your face" sort of stuff, rather lending depth to the scenes, but I believe my brain normally does that anyway.  The deep sounds that accompanied parts of the film provided me more of a feedback on the scale than the 3D aspect.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Pilgermann on May 23, 2014, 12:55:13 AM
I enjoyed it overall but it totally lacks the enthusiastic charm of the older films that I love.  The dialogue was silly, expositional stuff that would fit right in one of the 70's films but was delivered in such a serious way that it kept it from being amusing.  There's plenty of other things I didn't like about it but I'd still say give it a go.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Derf on May 23, 2014, 04:07:52 AM
I finally saw it today. I complain that most movies today don't have enough story to make them work. They seem to be all slick action and not enough substance. With this movie, I found myself wishing for more mindless violence on a colossal scale and less of the cardboard cutout character crud. I wasn't drawn to the people; the writers tried, but ultimately the characters weren't human enough to care about. I was begging for things to move along to the fight. I did like that there were nice little touches hearkening back to the old Godzilla movies, such as the Japanese scientist who believes that Godzilla is there to restore balance rather than to destroy humanity. That was very much the spirit of many of the earlier films. I also liked the Muto designs, though I found myself wanting to see a fight or two happen during the day for a better look at them. There was too much smoke and darkness, which may have saved on the budget but ultimately left me a bit disappointed. I liked the design of Godzilla also, but again, I wanted to see more. I know it doesn't sound like it, but I did enjoy the movie overall, and the writers and directors did a good job of adapting the Godzilla mythos for an American audience. I just wanted a bit more of the goofy charm of the earlier films. Godzilla is a rather silly concept. Let him loose to fight in whatever silly way he wants and leave character development to movies that call for it.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: Neville on May 24, 2014, 02:44:10 PM
I liked it. Sort of.

I enjoyed the way the plot progressed, and also the fact that neither Godzilla nor the rest of the creatures cared much about the humans. Seriously, most of the time they simply don't seem to know we're down there. It struck me as a surprisingly clever (and simple) move from the writers / director. I mean, if I ever end up in a fistfight behind a bar the last thing I'm gonna notice are the flies or the ants.

On the other hand, I found the whole thing surprisingly not funny. This has to be the most somber monster movie I've ever seen. I'm not suprised if Americans don't find crumbling buildings and clouds of smoke as fun as they used to, but hey, what's the point of showing monsters destroying cities if we're not going to be allowed some outlet to our primal movie emotions, those who place explosions and accidents over character development? If you're not gonna let me enjoy the destructrion, you might as well show me a remake of "Twelve angry men" starring kaijus.

So, an OK film, a hell bettter than the Roland Emmerich version, but still not a match to "Pacific Rim", which IMHO is the best monster movie of the last 10 years.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: akiratubo on May 31, 2014, 11:19:05 AM
Eh, this was ok.  Godzilla needed a serious diet but otherwise he looks right, acts right, and sounds right.  That counts for a lot.  There needed to be more evident damage to the MUTOs and Godzilla during the fight (re: Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla or Godzilla vs Destroyer to see this done right).

There probably was enough Godzilla, just too much movie.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: VenomX73 on June 07, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
3 weeks later - my work schedule and my girl's work schedule - so bad last month...no excuse.

SO anyway - just got back from the movie...

I loved it. I have to say though - REALLY good and a few bads.

Bads for me Imo - it was so sad in the beginning of the movie that made me almost cry, man lol...
also Godzilla was a little on the heavy side. Not a bad design though.
Story was a bit too long I think - Muto was a Cloverfield cheap type of a monster.
They should have made the emp blast hurt Godzilla in some way - Mutos was way out of Godzilla's league!

Goods - Godzilla's fire blast. Man that was just too AWESOME. I loved how how G spit flames into Muto's mouth.
Yes- I cheered when Godzilla did that lol. I also like how much destruction was in this movie... DAMN, was like watching 2012!
The halo drop was too cool - I would love to do that.
I also LOVE the new Godzilla theme- sounds great! almost like the Japanese Army march from old G movies.

In the end - it made me feel proud to be a Godzilla fan.

for the next Godzilla film I suggest an Alien controlled "new" MechaGodzilla vs Godzilla not a reboot of (1974)
maybe add some other monsters from Godzilla's past too.


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: VenomX73 on June 07, 2014, 06:26:57 PM
Another thing I'll say is that Godzilla's breath weapon looked too much like real flames, they could have made it like a cone like they did in all the movies, with just slight flickering flames around the edges.

I was actually OK with it looking like a stream of nuclear plasma.  Wished it left scars on the MUTO, or some other sign of visible injury (along with the side effects for humans in the area).  Perhaps there were injuries to the MUTO and I missed them while trying to take in the whole movie.

Ok then, I'm in the same boat -
I was thinking the same thing. No cuts, no blood, no limbs ripped off, no ash on Muto's face after that 1st blast! Nothing.

1 more thing I want to add - The 'Mutos' lived in the ancient dinosaurs days right? When radioactivity was everywhere...
So - I was thinking when I got home - how did regular fire kill the baby Mutos? (that was kinda lame)
Like the female Mutos took Godzilla's 1st fire blast like a champ...

Godzilla should have ate the baby Muto cone - just sayin :smile:


Title: Re: Godzilla! *spoiler*
Post by: SynapticBoomstick on June 15, 2014, 08:57:23 PM
I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who absolutly lost it when Godzilla used his atomic breath and thought that it was the greatest thing ever for simply being. This is the first time I actually got to see that on a big screen.

I also have a word or two for every single person tossing, "Godzilla's fat!" around. Look at any of the Toho films: can you say "thunder thighs"?