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Title: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on May 27, 2014, 07:17:03 AM
Hardly earth shattering news I know (considering the work I do) but I'm checking prints of Shangani Patrol for this festival https://www.nationalartsfestival.co.za/events/shangani-patrol/ (https://www.nationalartsfestival.co.za/events/shangani-patrol/) and I'm always amazed at how much dirt gets on your fingahs after winding a 35mm print through to check it.  :teddyr: :teddyr:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Josso on May 27, 2014, 09:15:01 AM
Is there a difference between prints and films? I handled 35mm a bunch and I never got dirty, I would be p**sed if I got dirt onto my negs, mind you I buy 35mm new though.


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on May 28, 2014, 02:11:43 AM
Is there a difference between prints and films? I handled 35mm a bunch and I never got dirty, I would be p**sed if I got dirt onto my negs, mind you I buy 35mm new though.

The film that you put in cameras remains negative once you develop it and make paper prints from it: the prints I deal with are positive and are the normal films that run in a theater.   :smile:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Newt on May 29, 2014, 07:46:40 AM
I'm always amazed at how much dirt gets on your fingahs after winding a 35mm print through to check it.  :teddyr: :teddyr:

Do film prints attract dust or do they generate their own?  You got me wondering.


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on May 29, 2014, 07:52:26 AM
I'm always amazed at how much dirt gets on your fingahs after winding a 35mm print through to check it.  :teddyr: :teddyr:

Do film prints attract dust or do they generate their own?  You got me wondering.

It could be a combination of both: the cans are usually clean (whether they're metal or plastic) and the films get dust from the air and running through the projector gate. All I can say is that the reels I went through were feeeeeelthy...  :tongueout:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Jack on May 29, 2014, 12:54:24 PM
Sometimes when I'm watching an old movie, there will be a piece of hair that seems to be stuck on it.  And it doesn't look like hair from someone's head, it looks like it's from, you know...the place where it grows shorter and curlier.

What the heck is up with that?


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on May 30, 2014, 12:46:58 AM
Sometimes when I'm watching an old movie, there will be a piece of hair that seems to be stuck on it.  And it doesn't look like hair from someone's head, it looks like it's from, you know...the place where it grows shorter and curlier.

What the heck is up with that?

All those hairs: they belong to me.  :buggedout: :buggedout: :wink: :teddyr:

When a 35mm film is processed, there can sometimes be hairs that get picked up by the reel during processing and then there can also be hairs in the camera gate when filming happens, hence the phrase "Check the gate".

These days with digital filmmaking, the camera is bald to say the least.  :buggedout: :wink:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on September 05, 2014, 01:57:46 AM
Further research by yours truly indicates that the 'hair' could also be a small sliver of film that comes loose from the raw stock while the film is passing through the camera gate.  :teddyr:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Derf on September 05, 2014, 07:06:28 AM
Further research by yours truly indicates that the 'hair' could also be a small sliver of film that comes loose from the raw stock while the film is passing through the camera gate.  :teddyr:

Eewww. Cinematic pubes.  :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on September 05, 2014, 07:22:06 AM
Further research by yours truly indicates that the 'hair' could also be a small sliver of film that comes loose from the raw stock while the film is passing through the camera gate.  :teddyr:

Eewww. Cinematic pubes.  :bouncegiggle:

Especially if the hairs are mine (which they all are)  :tongueout: :wink: :teddyr: :teddyr:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Flangepart on September 05, 2014, 08:02:08 AM
And of course, all I can think of is the hair on the film in WHAT'S UP, TIGER LILY?


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: ER on September 05, 2014, 12:55:04 PM
Do you have to take a lot of fire precautions working with films, Trevor? I had no idea until recently* that films (or is it only old film?) present the fire hazard they do.


*And they say you can't learn anything from Tarantino movies!


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on September 09, 2014, 05:54:32 AM
Do you have to take a lot of fire precautions working with films, Trevor? I had no idea until recently* that films (or is it only old film?) present the fire hazard they do.


*And they say you can't learn anything from Tarantino movies!


Yes we have to: it is the nitrate based films (those produced prior to 1951) that we have to handle with care as they can go up in flames easily. The odd thing is that if the nitrate based films are kept correctly, they can last for years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_base#Nitrate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_base#Nitrate)

BTW: the scene in Ingloroiououoyooius Basatrds  :wink: where the pile of film catches fire could very easily happen.  :smile:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on January 30, 2015, 06:55:21 AM
Doing it again: I'm preparing copies of Katrina and Jannie Totsiens for the same festival in July this year.  :smile:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: bob on January 30, 2015, 11:37:55 PM
Inquiring minds must know: are your undies dirtier then your hands?


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on February 02, 2015, 02:04:16 AM
Inquiring minds must know: are your undies dirtier then your hands?

My hands have gloves on when I check films so I will check and report back asap.  :teddyr: :teddyr:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on February 02, 2015, 08:37:26 AM
Finished Katrina and Jannie Totsiens: eleven 35mm reels and two trailers.  :teddyr: Job done.

Now I just hope I get to go there in July.


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on August 25, 2016, 04:16:29 AM
It happened again this morning: this time with negatives. Odd.  :question:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: AoTFan on August 25, 2016, 09:44:00 PM
Sometimes when I'm watching an old movie, there will be a piece of hair that seems to be stuck on it.  And it doesn't look like hair from someone's head, it looks like it's from, you know...the place where it grows shorter and curlier.

What the heck is up with that?

Well, if it's a porno, I'd say someone got a bit TOO involved in the movie.


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on August 26, 2016, 01:50:55 AM
Sometimes when I'm watching an old movie, there will be a piece of hair that seems to be stuck on it.  And it doesn't look like hair from someone's head, it looks like it's from, you know...the place where it grows shorter and curlier.

What the heck is up with that?

Well, if it's a porno, I'd say someone got a bit TOO involved in the movie.

 :teddyr: :teddyr:

As I said back then, all those hairs: they belong to me  :buggedout: :wink:

The hair could actually be one of three things: a hair that gets caught in the gate of the camera - hence the phrase 'check the gate' - a hair that is picked up during processing or a small sliver of film that gets caught in the camera gate during production.  :smile:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on January 24, 2018, 06:07:07 AM
It happened again: a 16mm film in an air-tight can is filthy dirty. Very strange.  :question:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: BoyScoutKevin on January 28, 2018, 04:14:16 PM
It happened again: a 16mm film in an air-tight can is filthy dirty. Very strange.  :question:

It is said that the Library of Congress, here in the U.S., the site where one gets a copyright for a film, has one of the largest collections of pornographic films in the U.S.

How about where you work, Trevor? A lot of South African porno?


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on January 29, 2018, 02:20:27 AM
How about where you work, Trevor? A lot of South African porno?

Thankfully not.

Up until 1994, possession or production of X rated material was against the law, whether the material was on film, tape or in a book or a magazine. All films and publications had to be submitted to the South African Publications Control Board for ratings.

People tried to make adult films here - there were several made during the 1980s - but those films were seized and the makers jailed or fined heavily. So much for free thought and speech  :twirl:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on June 22, 2022, 08:42:40 AM
A newsflash: Trevor is preparing a film print for the first time in four years  :cheers:

And yes, my gloves get horribly filthy  :buggedout:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Newt on June 22, 2022, 09:21:16 AM
 :cheers:


Title: Re: My hands just got terribly filthy....
Post by: Trevor on June 22, 2022, 10:40:46 AM
:cheers:

It's Tokoloshe: only issue, there's a reel missing. No idea why.