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I have a new friend that is in art movies; she likes movies that could tell the innermost parts of people, or life, or society.

In the begin I thought she liked movies like Shaun of the Dead (2004) or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (2005) that are fun, but you can read quite a bit of subtext if you want.

This smiley really show how I usually feel in front of such movies: :bouncegiggle: In the begin I laugh, after I think there is some bitter truth...


When she gave me this titles...

Rashomon (1950)
Tokyo Story (1953)
Wild Strawberries (1957)
Mirror (1975)
Stalker (1979)
To Live (1994)


And :buggedout: it become obvious I completely missed the idea. I am aware that this place might not be the right one... But do you know art movies? Do you like them?

Yes, despite the moniker (which we're actually quite proud of), our tastes here are very eclectic!

Off the top of my head:
http://www.badmovies.org/movies/eltopo/ (http://www.badmovies.org/movies/eltopo/)
A western of sorts with loads of pretentious artsy fartsy stuff, mixed with all the elements of a great b-movie.

And I always have to mention La Belle Noiseuse. I don't know what it's about, but it's got four hours of Emmanuelle Beart casing about as nature intended in a painter's studio.

Andrew on El Topo...

> It is a creative film, filled with memorable symbolism, scenes that confound the viewer, and characters who belong in separate asylums (to prevent them from ganging up on reality).<

And that's why I love the Borntreger way with words.

are we talking 'art house' movies, or just ones that are a bit 'arty'? never known the difference really, maybe there isn't much of one?

Valerie And Her Week Of Wonders  might fit this category

I don't know the difference, but there are definitely movies that try to be "artistic" and are only "artsy" or pure nonsense.

The extreme example: After Last Season (2009), wanted to be an artistic movie it is actually an endurance test.

yeah I guess when films try too hard to be arty and weird, it just comes off as pretentious.

Valerie... doesn't suffer from that fate. Jess Franco's Female Vampire might be worth a shot too, that is just absurd

I consider there are three types of movies:

1. Mainstream movies intended to appeal to the widest audience possible: action, broad comedy, formula romance, superheroes, James Bond, etc.
2. Exploitation movies which deal with subject matter that's too gross, violent, or sexual for the mainstream. (Lately, exploitation movies have been fairly mainstream, however). Most "bad movies" fall into this category but they could also be hilarious failures from either of the other two genres.
3. Art movies, which are aimed at a specialized audience who consider movies according to their artistic merit.

I like all three types, art movies the most. Great exploitation movies (whether intentionally or unintentionally so) are better than average mainstream movies or mediocre art movies. They are rare treasures to be shared and celebrated here.

Ha, yes.  Of that list she gave you, they're also simply called "great movies"!  Regarded to be masterpieces in some cases.

Amer (2009) is highly recommended. It pays homage to 1970s giallos while dissecting giallos the same time. One of my new favorites.

Nice. big 70s giallo fan but not heard of this one.

On the subject of gialli (or giallos) Fulci's Lizard In A Woman's Skin is the most 'arty' and surreal one I've seen. Surprised it's actually a Fulci film, it's very classy and sophisticated (well almost) compared to the more schlock-horror style he became known for

Watched AN AMERICAN HIPPIE IN ISRAEL recently and it was both an art film and a hilarious failure. A rare feat indeed. I thought it was great.

I saw El Topo time ago, it was an interesting experience.

I started to see the next movie of the same director The Holy Mountain (1973), but for some reason I never finished it.

I've seen an edited for television version of that last one by Tarkovsky...
I keep meaning to see Solaris because I understand one of my favorite b-movies was inspired by it...

I have a VHS copy of the Klaus Kinski version of Nosferatu, which get pretty weird  at times...
Funny thing about Klaus Kinski, how he's known in the US for doing a lot of b-movies, but he's known in Europe for a lot of highfaluting artsy fartsy films... Except for one or two spaghetti westerns.

That's the kind of actor I'd like to be; Just BUSY.

there's a flick from 2005 called" the mummy an' the armadillo" that she would like.
you would too, rc, i think.
actually many here would like it, if only for the set, which is mind blowing!

This movie always puzzled the crap out of me.  It epitomized everything that I felt was wrong about French cinema at the time: incomprehensible plot, long drawn out scenes where nothing actually happens, and the length of the movie itself being enough for two.  Emmanuelle Beart is lovely to look at, but when it takes her five minutes of onscreen time to drink a cup of tea while gazing reflectlvely into the distance, even my patience is taxed.

My favourite art film:

(http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc392/lenamtrung/Movie%20Pic/TheCrimsonRivers2000BD.jpg)

Damn scary too.  :buggedout:

Here's a very experimental art movie that some might like, some will hate.  I don't like it at any level but it gets a fair bit of press.  But be warned, NSFW:

Begotten [Complete Original Film] Edmund Elias Merhige 710x480p (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gXIaTnT1zE#)

Begotten (1990) by E. E. Merhige.  All filmed in black and white and extensively postproduced to create a very distinctive look.  Probably the worst part is the crazy explanations and rationalizations in the comments below the screen.  "It's filmed in high contrast black and white to symbolize the duality of good and evil", or somesuch nonsense.

Is The Tin Drum supposed to be an art movie, or is it just in a foreign language?

Nah, that's just a foreign film.  They're all art films, haha.  I remember seeing that many years ago, very strange and somewhat disturbing movie.

The ultimate art film

Ass The Movie -Idiocracy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGlJgU9x8tM#ws)

Did you know it is based on a real movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0244835/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0244835/) ?

UN CHEIN ANDALOU (1929)-ya know-the Dali/Bunuel film-I suppose thats an art film.
I would class VAMPYR (1932) as arty...and in in own warped way-GLEN OR GLENDA? (1953)-BA art-but one man's art is another's insane nonsense.


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