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Title: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: ER on January 29, 2015, 10:23:21 AM
http://www.playbuzz.com/timdunkin10/how-much-do-you-know-about-the-religion-of-islam (http://www.playbuzz.com/timdunkin10/how-much-do-you-know-about-the-religion-of-islam)



Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: etmoviesb on January 29, 2015, 04:24:59 PM
I am not sure if the author is really honest of he tries to be anti-islamic.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: ER on January 29, 2015, 06:23:03 PM
I am not sure if the author is really honest of he tries to be anti-islamic.

As lawyers say, truth is an absolute defense against accusations of slander.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: etmoviesb on January 29, 2015, 06:37:03 PM
Well, sure. But it is like presenting Christianity showing the Bible book Deuteronomy, for example the 20:13-21:14 part...


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: ER on January 29, 2015, 07:54:22 PM
Well, sure. But it is like presenting Christianity showing the Bible book Deuteronomy, for example the 20:13-21:14 part...

Well, show me a Jew selling his daughter into slavery or stoning his brother for an offense against the Torah, and I'll gladly condemn him. On the other hand, one only has to turn on any TV news channel to hear about Islamic honor killings going on right now.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: indianasmith on January 29, 2015, 10:58:53 PM
I got 10 out of 13.  I think that the quiz was a bit biased, but technically accurate.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: Trevor on January 30, 2015, 01:26:54 AM
I do know this: people claiming to be true servants of the Prophet ruined my life on September 11, 2001.  :bluesad:


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: etmoviesb on January 30, 2015, 06:51:53 AM
Trevor, that's pretty much why I dislike speaking of religion. I could say they gave a huge prove of faith and there are arguments for both views.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: Trevor on January 30, 2015, 06:59:40 AM
Trevor, that's pretty much why I dislike speaking of religion. I could say they gave a huge prove of faith and there are arguments for both views.

How did they prove their faith? By killing almost 3000 innocent people? September 11 is my birthday and I have not had a proper birthday since 2000 because of what those bastards did in the name of their faith. May those terrorists burn in hell forever.  :hatred:


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: etmoviesb on January 30, 2015, 08:00:52 AM
I am sorry for your birthday.

But, faith is a strong belief in something; do you doubt they had a strong belief? I don't. And the number of deaths argument is fairly moot if you consider all the US-invoked wars all around the world.

However, as I said I do not really like speak of this stuff. It breaks friendships and create divisions that make no sense.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: Newt on January 30, 2015, 08:14:17 AM
I know enough to know that Islam is not simply a religion.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: lester1/2jr on January 30, 2015, 08:35:28 AM
If you look at, for example, Temerlan Tsarnaev here in Boston. He screwed up his life, it was his own fault he beat his girlfriend up and couldn't get some sort of visa, and he got depressed and became a religious fanatic. instead of checking him his family let him do it and even went along with it out of their own cowardice and delusions. in the end they got dragged down with him.

These "angry Arab" types who are all macho aren't put in their place by their families. Yes there are foreign policy reasons why Muslims get involved in this stuff too, there are many different reasons but some of the key ones lie with the Muslim communities and the Muslim families themselves.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: Flangepart on January 30, 2015, 09:03:54 AM
10 of 13....interesting. 'You know enough to be dangerous.' What up with that?


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: sprite75 on February 07, 2015, 08:38:35 PM
I was over in Turkey in 2012 - which is over 99% Muslim.  A number of Turks smoke and drink - which is officially a no-no according to the Qu'ran.  Turkey is home to a beverage called Rakı.  You think we have some strong stuff in this country you ought to try Rakı.  After a couple of those you'll be seeing vapor trails.

A good number of Turks are what our tour director referred to as Cultural Muslims - I think he said it was about 40%.  They are identified by the country as Muslims because that's what their parents were but aren't overly religious.  They keep the registration because it's not worth the headache to change it.  They might go in once a week (usually Fridays) for services if they go.  They aren't dropping everything to pray when the calls occur but go about their business.  The women by and large dress how they wish.  Many wear headscarves and some do wear the burkas.  Others if you dropped them in any major city here in the US you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.  They do cover their heads inside mosques.

I had a pretty good time over in Turkey.  I never felt unsafe over there.  The Turks I came across were all OK.  Most were quite friendly. 


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: RCMerchant on February 08, 2015, 06:02:29 AM
Trevor, that's pretty much why I dislike speaking of religion. I could say they gave a huge prove of faith and there are arguments for both views.

How did they prove their faith? By killing almost 3000 innocent people? September 11 is my birthday and I have not had a proper birthday since 2000 because of what those bastards did in the name of their faith. May those terrorists burn in hell forever.  :hatred:




I started taking the quiz-and I realized how stupid it was-so I didnt finish it-kinda biased? Ya think?


Amen,my freind.

I don't have anything against Muslims-I have all sortsa hate to extreme radical murderers who use the Islamic faith to kill people-they are NOT true Muslims-just like Jim Jones was not a Christian. They are idiots who warped a religion as an excuse for bigotry and murder.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: ER on February 08, 2015, 12:09:35 PM
I'm with you, RC, I don't have an issue with anyone who lives in peace, whatever god they pray to, and I would agree with all of what you said, except the fact that unlike Jim Jones' perversion of Christianity, Islamic groups like ISIS and Boko Haram are doing exactly what their religion tells them to do, and in this case it is the fault of the religion's central message of conquest by any means.


"So when you meet in Jihad in Allah's cause those who disbelieve, smite their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them…" — Surat 47, al-Qital



And if the mindset of groups like ISIS represents a tiny portion of Islam, as we're constantly being told by apologists, then where is the widespread condemnation of ISIS from the supposedly anti-violent majority of Moslems?

Jordanians are rightfully angered over the savage murder of their captive pilot, Egyptians rose up and threw out the Brotherhood in Cairo (good work!), but that was a self-serving reaction to their own daily liberties being curtailed. What I'm talking about is where are Moslems protesting in the streets over 9-11 and 7-7 and the murders in Paris at Charlie Hebdo? Why are they not coming forward by the millions and apologizing on behalf of their faith?

If this loving, placid 99% of Islam is really out there, why isn't it doing the right thing and protesting against those who murder in their religion's name? Why aren't ambassadors from Islamic nations on the floor of the UN every day decrying the beheadings of innocent people done in Mohammad's name, or proposing ways to end the violence?

We all know most Moslems are probably perfectly decent human beings, but if they're doing nothing to stop those within their religion who pervert all decency, then doesn't that in some way make them part of the problem?


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 08, 2015, 12:53:58 PM
(http://cdn.christianexaminer.com/data/en/full/2643/isis-islamic-state.jpg?w=720&h=480&l=50&t=40)

ISIS news today: Muslim world condemns ISIS killing of Jordanian pilot (http://cdn.christianexaminer.com/data/en/full/2643/isis-islamic-state.jpg?w=720&h=480&l=50&t=40)

Think Muslims Haven’t Condemned ISIS? Think Again (http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/commonwordcommonlord/2014/08/think-muslims-havent-condemned-isis-think-again.html#zuuXbG0psWISr4il.99)

http://youtu.be/2Bd0Y6qWmlA?t=2m44s (http://youtu.be/2Bd0Y6qWmlA?t=2m44s)

(go to 2:40)

Muslim Leaders Worldwide Condemn ISIS (http://www.globalresearch.ca/muslim-leaders-worldwide-condemn-isis/5397364)


Scholars’ Open Letter Adds to Chorus of Muslim Leaders Condemning ISIS (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/09/25/muslims_scholars_open_letter_to_isis_baghdadi_caliphate_s_actions_against.html)

http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/ (http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/)

(http://media.namx.org/images/editorial/2014/09/0902/n_dado_isis/n_dado_isis_500x279.jpg)

Muslims Around The World Condemn Charlie Hebdo Attack (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/07/muslims-respond-charlie-hebdo_n_6429710.html)

45 Examples of Muslim Outrage About Charlie Hebdo Attack That Fox News Missed (http://www.alternet.org/media/45-examples-muslim-outrage-about-charlie-hebdo-attack-fox-news-missed)


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: ER on February 08, 2015, 02:16:08 PM
That's a great start, Rev! Now if the other 999,999,950 jump in, we'll get somewhere.  :wink:


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: Rev. Powell on February 08, 2015, 02:59:20 PM
1 billion Muslims aren't going anywhere. We need to encourage the moderates. Pretending they don't exist or that they are marginal is counterproductive. Attacking Islam per se is counterproductive. It actually feeds into the paranoid Islamist agenda. The moderates will eventually win out, because the extremists are suicidal (literally).

That's all I have to say.


Title: Re: Buzzfeed: How Much Do You Know About Islam?
Post by: Allhallowsday on February 08, 2015, 06:59:16 PM
13 out of 13... only after correcting the 5 I guessed wrong purposely because I thought they were anti-Islam questions, though also true tenets.  I was not surprised by any of the "true" answers.