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this week I finally completed the F13 series. first one I ever saw was Jason Takes Manhattan when I was about eleven, and this week I saw the only one I've never seen. you guessed it: the first one  :buggedout:

I have to say that two of them stand out for me. both because they're so bad they're great

that's Part 3 (with the 3D gimmick, although I never saw it in 3D), and Jason Takes Manhattan.

the worst was Jason Goes To Hell. although to be honest I didn't really like parts 4,6 or 7 that much either.

thought the 2009 remake was rubbish also.

Thoughts?
A cute little mask, a few yard tools I wouldn't recommend, and a mythos that could really use a shark because it sure loves jumping it...

My thoughts is Friday the 13th (the first movie) wanted to be as successful as Halloween (1978) and took a few steps backwards and copied murders from 'bay of blood' and filmed in the forest to save budget dollars.  Which I think Friday the 13th became a bigger success then Halloween because it had the perfect mix.

I know a lot of horror fans seem to believe that Halloween started the slasher movement in the 80s but I don't believe it's the case. Halloween did was make horror fun. Fun as a rollercoaster ride. But Hollywood saw it as big budget. Aliens is what came from Halloween. Friday the 13th show that fun didn't need a budget. And if you noticed that most early 80's slasher stories seemed to follow the path of Friday the 13th footsteps; unseen killer, forest, dark (no camera lights).

I also want to point out that Halloween 2 would never been made if it wasn't for the success of Friday the 13th.

touché. :smile:

- but probably true.... (....true-ché?)


actually theres an interview with one of the F13 part 1 makers (not sean s cunningham but another guy) on that DVD who says he basically watched Halloween and took notes before writing F13. so there's obviously a big influence there, but I get what you're saying about Bay Of Blood. some of those early to mid 70s giallo flicks are brutal... even post F13/Halloween ones like Tenebrae and New York Ripper are far more explicit/shocking than most slashers, I think... the line between giallo and slasher does get blurred though

My ratings of the franchise:

Friday the 13th (1980) 4.5/5
Friday the 13th Part 2 (1981) 4/5
Friday the 13th Part III (1982) 3.5/5
Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter (1984) 3.5/5
Friday the 13th: A New Beginning (1985) 3/5
Jason Lives: Friday the 13th Part VI (1986) 3.5/5
Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood (1988) 3/5
Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan (1989) 2.5/5
Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday (1993) 2/5
Jason X (2001) 2/5
Freddy vs. Jason (2003) 3.5/5
Friday the 13th (2009) 3.5/5

X is not good but I didn't think it was that bad either. has possibly my favourite kill in the entire series. the frozen face one. gruesome!

my main problem with part 1 having just seen it, is the final girl section is waaay too long (imo). could literally have 15 mins cut out... I did enjoy it overall though.

The original Friday The 13th (1980) was banned in South Africa: thanks for nothing, dumb ass apartheid censors!  :hatred: :tongueout:

I was REALLY into the F13th franchise when I first got into horror movies. nowadays...eeeeehhhh. I loved the second one (Ginny!) and I like the third for its cheesy charms. The Final Chapter was excellent as well. I honestly can't remember the rest really. Nowadays I'd rather watch Just Before Dawn or The Final Terror for my backwoods horror kicks.

I really really REALLY loved the F13 series when I was growing up. I've seen 'em all (most of them numerous times) and tho I'll admit when I look back that there are definitely more "bad" entries than "good" ones, it's still my sentimental favorite horror franchise.

My faves would probably be the original and part VI ("Jason Lives" - the first one I was old enough to see in a theater).

Least fave is definitely "Goes to Hell," I vividly remember throwing beer cans at the screen when i saw that in a theater back in the day, screaming "WHAT THE F***? THEY RUINED IT!" (hahaha)

"Jason X" is actually kind of a hoot if you're in the right frame of mind for it. I find it works best if you treat it as a parody of the "F13" movies, rather than a "real" series entry.

The ultimate Nerd Moment for me as an F13 fan was three years ago, when I went to Camp No-Be-Bo-Sco in New Jersey (aka the "real" Camp Crystal Lake, where the original movie was filmed) with my son's Cub Scout troop for a campout. I was totally useless when it came to Scout related activities cuz I was too busy nerding out for the entire weekend, haha.

I wrote a blog about the experience with a bunch of pix:
http://hubpages.com/entertainment/I-Survived-Camp-Crystal-Lake (http://hubpages.com/entertainment/I-Survived-Camp-Crystal-Lake)

I've only seen the original....and enjoyed the hell out of it  :cheers:

I'm still a fan of pretty much all of them. I especially like 4, but each to their own.

The remake was not good, but I can think of a lot that were much worse, ANOES is the first that comes to mind.

What made these movies work was that they took Joe Bob Briggs' "Three B's" as their production guide:
Blood, Breasts, and Beasts.

In every single movie!

nice, had a read... I like how all the kids had heard of F13 but none had seen it , lol (well neither had I until now)

I really gotta admit I love Jason X. Out of every one of the movies that is the one I can watch the most. I like the setting, the humour, the kills...everything about it.

They make no sense. 

I saw the 3D one when it was new in the theater.  That's the one where the mousy girl gets dressed up for a mystery date or something, and gits it?  Damned funny.  :bouncegiggle: 
That third one is the only one I'd be interested in seeing again. 

I treat the New Line ones (JGTH, Jason X, and FvJ) like comic book movies or what-ifs. Even so, JGTH is my least favorite ...and it's hard to outdo the terribleness that was parts 3 and 8, but somehow they made something even worse. Jason X is fun maybe only because Jason is still played straight. Hodder shows that Jason would treat chumps the same way no matter what situation he was in. It was a goofy entry but somehow fun.

My favorite is part 2 (I second Ginny! -best Final Girl ever) and part 4 (Ted White is my favorite Jason). Part 5 is so ridiculous and sucky that, like a snake eating its own tail, it breaks through to the other side of suck and somehow becomes awesome. Excuse me while I go do the Robot in my room.

Ok, I'm back. I rambled on quite some time on an F13 retrospective if anyone cares to check it out:

http://youtu.be/T0H-8IiDFVY?list=PLnTmd0fyMvz9ikRE1QBvSNCkzl6zxy3ih (http://youtu.be/T0H-8IiDFVY?list=PLnTmd0fyMvz9ikRE1QBvSNCkzl6zxy3ih)

you didn't think parts 3 and 8 were 'so bad it's good' then? they really are for me. I get a badmovie kick out of both!

agree Goes To Hell is horrible though. not in a good way, just a lame way.

Thoughts on something I am, of course, aware, but . . .?! have never seen.

They'll keep doing it, till they get it right. "Friday the 13th" to be released January 13, 2017, if they can start shooting by the end of this month. If not, then look for it to be released sometime in the last half of 2017. I don't know whether it is a sequel to the 2009 film or a completely new remake of the 1980 original.

No children were killed during the making of these films.

The one other thing I can remember about this series of films, that sometime ago, (which I can no longer remember when, it has been so long ago) in one of the magazines dedicated to horror films (which I can no longer remember the title of) the writer of the article took the time to try to figure out the age of every character killed in each of the films, up to that time. And the one thing I do remember from the article that all the characters killed in the films were 18 and over.

And we'll see what we'll see.

They're the junkfood of movies.  They're not good for you and you shouldn't make them a mine point of your diet, but every once in a while you just need that little something sweet.

There are parts of 3 and 8 that I do like (flashes of coolness) but overall, I found them rather dull for the most part (part 3 is so lazy). Richard Brooker's Jason (and all scenes with him in the mask) were awesome. 3 does have a good chase scene, even if I do find the Final Girl in that one kinda irritating.

The only thing cool in part 9 was the cameo of the Necronomicon and the Creepshow crate in the background.

Not to go too far off topic, but the F13 video game currently in development looks amazing. There's a clip from Higgin's Haven (part 3) that looks totally authentic and Jason does the same walk after his kill as he did in the movie after shooting Vera in the eye; it gave me goosebumps!

Here's the clip:

https://youtu.be/g4OECnV8rXc (http://youtu.be/g4OECnV8rXc)

Nice.. haven't played video games in years but that looks like it would be pretty fun to play.

only F13 game I'm familiar with is the one that came out on the spectrum, lol


http://youtu.be/GWLbv4zQUpU (http://youtu.be/GWLbv4zQUpU)

I'm a backer on that!  Sounds like it'll be fun.  A lot of Friday the 13th vets are doing some degree of work on it, including Harry Manfredini (composer), Kane Hodder, and Sean Cunningham.  I'm betting their work is fairly small though, but still pretty cool.

I'm a bit concerned about mocap deaths though..  That gets old in many games.  We'll see. 

I love Jason.  No bulls**t.  He sees people, he kills people.  Boom.  The end.

agreed. none of this 'hilarious' quips and catchphrases nonsense like certain other serial-killing baddies

I never liked any of them.

   I'm with you.
I 'm an old-school horror fan, and I've never cared for gore for the sake of gore, which is all these are. Also, if I were a teenager, I'd be offended by the fact that the folks making these flicks seem to think that all teens are brainless sex / drug machines, fit only to be chainsaw-fodder.

Stupid movies like the FRIDAY THE  13 series are boring-watching folks get hacked up-doesnt make for  a good movie-
the original TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE-along the same lines-was very scary-the Friday movies are BORING and very routine .Its a bad remake of Bava's  A BAY OF BLOOD (1971)-which is much better.

http://youtu.be/PN_L2FV9-1w (http://youtu.be/PN_L2FV9-1w)

Fair enough... I don't think the F13 movies are pretending to be anything other than slasher junk food really though... the gore for gore's sake argument is something I'd say applies to a lot of these newer 'torture porn' movies more than the F13s, which now look tame by comparison.


no doubt the F13 movies can't compare to the best giallos of the 70s. A good deal of those slasher style giallo movies were more artistically done and had more interesting plots in general, and were also more shocking. Stuff like Deep Red and What Have You Done To Solange, Lizard In A Woman's Skin etc. are just on a different level...

To me, the first 2 are the best films with the best scares and surprises. Yeah they definitely ripped off Bay of Blood though. I felt 6 was the most fun, 3 & 4 & 5 were just passable but felt like part of the series. I don't know...I just don't like the later films that followed as much. I hated all the ones made in the 2000s...and pretty much everything that wasn't made in the 80s. Yeah to me, the 80s films are more enjoyable to watch in that let's see unlikable characters get maimed sort of way...

bumping cause I just watched the 2009 remake/reboot... saw it when it came out but couldn't really remember it.

really horrible effort IMO. the whole thing takes place in darkness for a start, hard to even see what's going on, and when you can it's usually shakey cam stuff. I was over half way through and realised I didn't even know some of the main characters, everyone seemed interchangeable. not surprised to see Michael Bay's name involved with this.  reminded me of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre: Beginnings thing that he also had a hand in iirc. obviously the F13 movies are never going to be high art but this was real trash.

I got yer back on Micheal Bey-the guy is a f**kin moron-and he thinks his audiance-(who are usually not more than 14)-are gonna keep watching s**t blow up.
A STORY-even crazy ones like from AIP in the 50's-some f**kin story-a REAL f**king story. One bloody kill after another don't match-for me-the original TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (1974)-which dint have any gore at all-but it was f**kin scary.

http://youtu.be/Vs3981DoINw (http://youtu.be/Vs3981DoINw)

no doubt... it's a myth you need gore to be scary. obviously it's a more important element in the whole 'slasher' genre, but blood'n'guts should never be used as a substitute for proper storytelling or film making, as you say.

They make no sense.

Oh, I said that already...

 


Of course I agree with this; the great power of TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE is many think they see something they don't.  The film is just INTENSE... and a masterpiece. 

Man that trailer is spoilerfic.  And people complain about modern ones.

Great film though.   :thumbup: