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Title: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: AoTFan on May 28, 2016, 09:53:55 AM

Yep, just learned about this myself.  And why is he sexist you ask?  Well, he made a video saying how he refuses to watch (much less review) the Ghostbuster's film because he feels, among other things, it looks like crap.  There's several other reasons, which to me, sound pretty well thought-out and reasonable, but of course, the Internet being the Internet, there's now a crap ton of re-posts about and comments about how AVGN is representative of being a sexist, jerk, etc etc.  Some are even comparing to the "Bigots" who don't want transgender people to use whatever bathroom they want.  (I'm not even going to get into that issue here, only to opine that they're two VERY different issues) and comparison to Gamergate.

Anyway, you can decide for yourself here....

http://youtu.be/hz8X2A7wHyQ (http://youtu.be/hz8X2A7wHyQ)


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: kakihara on May 28, 2016, 05:21:32 PM
I enjoy AVGNs videos alot. Im not surprised that people would take offense to him not wanting to watch this movie, especially considering the PC culture we live in. He very reasonably explained why he wouldnt watch it. I feel the same way, but im going to see this piece of crap anyway. I cant help myself. I love the ghostbusters. There is nothing sexist about not wanting to see this movie with an all female cast. I think anybody who is offended by this is mentally sick and looking for something to be offended by. most of the people that didnt want to see this movie are truly offended. we grew up with this franchise, and have been patiently  waiting for  30 years! the issue with the cast is not that they are female,


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: kakihara on May 28, 2016, 05:52:03 PM
....the issue is; ITS NOT THE ORIGINAL CAST! Its that simple. we waited and waited until Egon died and the powers that be decided to take something nostalgic that a lot of people care about and..... (sigh). Only profanity can express how i feel. Im posting this from the bathroom at my job. Now that i think about it, the brownies that my coworker left in here discribe my thoughts and the trailer for this movie.


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: El Misfit on May 28, 2016, 07:25:59 PM
Hold on, are you saying that he's sexist because the characters are stereotyped and that if you hate it that you are sexist? Where is the logic in this? It's a cash grab for nostalgia name and "modernized" with an all female main cast that is stereotyped to death.


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: A_Dubya on May 28, 2016, 11:55:16 PM
Exactly.


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: Jim H on May 29, 2016, 02:02:15 AM
It's frustrating reading some of the attacks as the people doing so often clearly have no idea who he is or the context of the video.  In particular people attacking him for the name "Angry Video Game Nerd" and what that represents in their mind.

Two things.

1. As a start, this isn't a video by the Angry Video Game Nerd (AVGN).  It's a video by James Rolfe, the film maker who created AVGN, as well as another fictional character Board James.  AVGN is a character in a fictional universe that reviews bad video games and as the name implies, is filled with rage at them.  He fought Bugs Bunny and a possessed Super Mario 3 NES cartridge.  This isn't a real person.  James Rolfe is a nice, very easy going guy who loves horror movies and is a HUGE Ghostbusters fan. 

2. This video is on his channel and is directed towards his fan base, who assume he will watch the film and tear it to shreds.  He's not interested in the film and doesn't intend to see it, so he made this explaining why and as a lead in to his other video about the aborted attempts at a Ghostbusters 3.

People not understanding 1 and 2 attack him for a variety of points in relation to them.  There were some pretty nasty and non-sequitor personal attacks involved, even including his wife for some reason.  Pretty crappy.  There's also implications about how he AVOIDED the gender issue and how this implies sexism.  So yes, he's being attacked as sexist for NOT getting into gender politics.  That's bordering on Orwellian logic. 


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: AoTFan on May 29, 2016, 06:10:46 AM
Hold on, are you saying that he's sexist because the characters are stereotyped and that if you hate it that you are sexist? Where is the logic in this? It's a cash grab for nostalgia name and "modernized" with an all female main cast that is stereotyped to death.

Shhhh!  Stop thinking logically!  You won't get far on the Internet with that attitude.  :)


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: kakihara on May 29, 2016, 07:49:07 AM
"That's bordering on Orwellian logic". 

I think that  sums it up. James rolfe made some very reasonable and valid points for not wanting to see it. like:
-the jokes are not funny.
-the ghosts look like theyre from the scooby doo movies.

 It seems as though reality has been inverted. TO attack and demonize someone because they  express an opinion that is different than your opinion is, by definition, bigotry.  James has committed the ultimate sin in todays culture, he has expressed his own personal opinion. Oh, we have ways of dealing with people like him.


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: Trevor on May 30, 2016, 08:15:57 AM
Im posting this from the bathroom at my job. Now that i think about it, the brownies that my coworker left in here discribe my thoughts and the trailer for this movie.

 :buggedout: :buggedout: +  :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle: :bouncegiggle:


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: AoTFan on May 30, 2016, 10:53:55 AM
It's frustrating reading some of the attacks as the people doing so often clearly have no idea who he is or the context of the video.  In particular people attacking him for the name "Angry Video Game Nerd" and what that represents in their mind.

Two things.

1. As a start, this isn't a video by the Angry Video Game Nerd (AVGN).  It's a video by James Rolfe, the film maker who created AVGN, as well as another fictional character Board James.  AVGN is a character in a fictional universe that reviews bad video games and as the name implies, is filled with rage at them.  He fought Bugs Bunny and a possessed Super Mario 3 NES cartridge.  This isn't a real person.  James Rolfe is a nice, very easy going guy who loves horror movies and is a HUGE Ghostbusters fan. 

Yeah, totally.  Except like a lot of people who do popular characters so many people seem to forget that they're NOT one and the seem. 

Me personally, I'm a HUGE fan of James Rolfe's work, not just AVGN but the other video's he's done.  He reminds me so much of myself as a young boy, having a dream making my own videos.  Although sadly, unlike James, that dream wasn't really encouraged and nurtured growing up, but that's another subject. 


People not understanding 1 and 2 attack him for a variety of points in relation to them.  There were some pretty nasty and non-sequitor personal attacks involved, even including his wife for some reason.  Pretty crappy.  There's also implications about how he AVOIDED the gender issue and how this implies sexism.  So yes, he's being attacked as sexist for NOT getting into gender politics.  That's bordering on Orwellian logic. 

Seems like these days you can't even go online and say, "Hey, the weather is nice today" without people getting angry. 

Anyway, I want to leave with one of favorite videos from James, a retrospective on the various movies he's made.  If you're like me you'll find it fascinating to get a behind the scenes look at the history of his Do It Yourself film making and creativity. 

https://youtu.be/MiQE_Lb801U (https://youtu.be/MiQE_Lb801U)


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: Trevor on May 31, 2016, 01:35:12 AM
Seems like these days you can't even go online and say, "Hey, the weather is nice today" without people getting angry. 

I take extreme exception to that remark as the weather is very cold here right now.  :wink:


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: Jim H on June 01, 2016, 08:50:50 PM
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Anyway, I want to leave with one of favorite videos from James, a retrospective on the various movies he's made.  If you're like me you'll find it fascinating to get a behind the scenes look at the history of his Do It Yourself film making and creativity. 

Might be my favorite video of his.  It inspired me into making short films again after a long lull.   :thumbup:


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: AoTFan on June 07, 2016, 11:25:13 PM
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Anyway, I want to leave with one of favorite videos from James, a retrospective on the various movies he's made.  If you're like me you'll find it fascinating to get a behind the scenes look at the history of his Do It Yourself film making and creativity. 


Might be my favorite video of his.  It inspired me into making short films again after a long lull.   :thumbup:


Cool, do you post them anywhere? 

Been meaning to get back into editing videos myself.  You can see several of my old music videos and an original short film on my old Youtube channel.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mallan625 (http://www.youtube.com/user/mallan625)

Sadly, one of my videos was lost when Youtube banned my old account and another one got taken off (although I might risk reuploaded it on my new channel someday.)

Anyway, while the other videos are just stuff I edited together from movie clips to mp3, this is one I shoot and edited myself several years back for a video class. 

Enjoy.

http://youtu.be/vvOXIWny-oI (http://youtu.be/vvOXIWny-oI)


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: Olivia Bauer on June 13, 2016, 04:46:08 PM
Yeah, it has to be sexist. It can't possibly be that the trailer looks awful.

Where was this "sexist backlash" when the trailer for Star Wars Episode VII came out?
Y'know, the first Star Wars movie to feature a female protagonist?


Title: Re: Yeah, so, apparently the Angry Video Game Nerd is a sexist...
Post by: AoTFan on July 05, 2016, 05:08:16 PM
https://youtu.be/6aQTJw1wlQ8 (https://youtu.be/6aQTJw1wlQ8)