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Title: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: kakihara on October 09, 2016, 11:03:29 AM
Which do you think is best? Im currently watch the whole series. Ive watched 5 so far. i think the first is the best so far, with the second right behind it.  The third doesnt really count, though how could you not like that one because of its badness? I read that 4 and 5 had a lot of problems on the production side, reshoots, rewrites, etc. Thoughts?


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: Chainsawmidget on October 09, 2016, 01:35:30 PM
One is easily the best. 

While you might not count three, it's a really great Halloween (the holiday) movie, even if it's not a very good Halloween (the series) movie. 

After that 2 is third best. 

Once you've watched them you can watch H20 (horrible title) and feel like you've seen the entire story. 

But if you have to watch them all, the one with Myer's niece... I forget which one that is... that's also not too shabby.  It had a great twist ending at the end that they never followed up on. 

I'd recommend against either of the Rob Zombie versions.


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: zombie no.one on October 09, 2016, 02:55:02 PM
agree that #1 is best. no competition really

#5 is absolutely painful.

edit, the one with Busta Rhymes is the worst though. the virtual reality tv show one, lol


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: retrorussell on October 09, 2016, 03:09:14 PM
#1 is excellent, #7 is well done and #2 is fun.  #3 was a guilty pleasure for many especially when it came out on cable.  #8 is just plain awful, as is #6.  #4 is meh, #5 is bleah.  Plans for a 9th have been largely derailed due to producer Moustapha Akkad's passing at the hands of a terrorist attack. 


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: kakihara on October 09, 2016, 03:25:36 PM
Virtual reality tv show? Wtf? I havent got that far yet, i was hoping the series didnt get that bad. Ive heard about the busta rhymes kung fu, not looking forward to it. For what its worth: i didnt think rob zombies version was that bad. The second one, uuuugghhh.....


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: zombie no.one on October 09, 2016, 03:35:29 PM
sorry I meant "reality tv show" of course... no idea what a virtual reality tv  show is  :teddyr:


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: Chainsawmidget on October 09, 2016, 09:59:23 PM
sorry I meant "reality tv show" of course... no idea what a virtual reality tv  show is  :teddyr:
I'm picturing some sort of cross between Micheal Myers and Lawnmower Man.   :drink:


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: zombie no.one on October 11, 2016, 08:18:56 AM
that could be scary for all kinds of reasons...


just realised Ive only seen 1 of the rob zombie Halloweens, but annoyingly I cant remember which one. want to check out the one I haven't seen.


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: Alex on October 11, 2016, 09:13:45 AM
I have to admit to enjoy the first Rob Zombie one, but the second left me feeling what the hell did I just watch?


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: clockworkcanary on October 13, 2016, 08:03:12 AM
I should be saving my comments until my next podcast recording (we're going to cover the whole series) but I can't resist.

I'm probably of the purist school of thought on this series. Halloween 1 (1978) was classic and should never have had a sequel. This series s**t to bed so often that it has at least 3 timelines (it's about as bad as the parallel universes in comics).

Timeline 1: H1, H2, H4, H5, and H6
Timeline 2: H1, H2, H20, Ressurrectum
Timeline 3: H1 remake, H2 remake

H1 was classic for a few reasons. Psychopath picks a victim at random and stalks her, killing off her babysitting friends.

H2 jumped the shark for me by adding the whole sibling bull. Way to take the scary right out of it. It was scarier when the motivation was random.

Then the Reality show one...omfg. Never, ever have a current pop star go over your main draw...ever.

As far as the niece stuff/Thorn cult druid stuff, eee gads.

How did a simple, straightforward tale of a baby sitter murderer devolve into some overarching druid cult stuff? How did they get here?!

And the Zombie remakes are horrible, IMO. So Myers became a killer due to a bad upbringing (nurture over nature). Haddonfield isn't a seemingly safe suburb, it's a meth lab white trash neighborhood.

Again, I don't think this story ever warranted a sequel. Or if it had, it should have just been him randomly selecting yet another victim by chance and stalking them, but then, how far can that premise go?




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Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: Ash on October 14, 2016, 06:46:41 PM
Would you believe that I have never seen the original Halloween by John Carpenter?   :buggedout:
I'm 42 years old and have been a member of this site for 16 years and I've only seen maybe 10 minutes of it.
It's just one of those movies that I always knew about and saw it on the shelf at the video store 10,000 times, but it somehow slipped through the cracks.

I think I know what my Halloween movie will be this year. 


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: kakihara on October 24, 2016, 01:02:21 PM
I have finally seen them all, and it was painfull. I still think the first is the best. Its very simple and straight foreward. Resurrection was a steaming pile of crap, thats the one everybody talks about and i see why. Jamie lee curtis dying in the first 10 minutes? Busta rhymes telling michael myers off?!! Busta rhymes doing kung fu (with a bruce lee "whoooooo..."), then busta kicking michael out of a window? !! Wtf.


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: zombie no.one on October 25, 2016, 01:52:25 PM
Would you believe that I have never seen the original Halloween by John Carpenter?   :buggedout:
I'm 42 years old and have been a member of this site for 16 years and I've only seen maybe 10 minutes of it.
It's just one of those movies that I always knew about and saw it on the shelf at the video store 10,000 times, but it somehow slipped through the cracks.

I think I know what my Halloween movie will be this year. 
don't worry, I had never seen the first Friday 13th movie til a few months ago. I saw Part 8 Takes Manahattan maybe a couple of yrs after it came out, and gradually saw all the rest in a completely random order...except for part 1!

on that note, I think Jason Vs Michael would've made more sense as a movie match up, than Jason vs Freddy...


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: Archivist on October 27, 2016, 01:41:52 AM
Would you believe that I have never seen the original Halloween by John Carpenter?   :buggedout:
I'm 42 years old and have been a member of this site for 16 years and I've only seen maybe 10 minutes of it.

I am in a very similar boat, but the difference is that I am not sure if I've seen it or not.  Most of the series played on TV, one per week, for about a month or so during the late 80's or early 90's in Australia.  I know I've seen number 3, Season of the Witch.  That was an odd one due the lack of Michael Myers and the bizarre music.  My brother and I would regularly take off Michael Myers' 'awakenings' after seeing those movies, with one of us lying on the ground with eyes closed, then suddenly snapping our eyes open, as if returning from death.

I wonder if there's a box set of the classic ones...


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: indianasmith on October 27, 2016, 06:57:42 AM
I thought that the first Rob Zombie Halloween movie was brilliant.
The second one sucked rancid turkey eggs.


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: JaseSF on October 30, 2016, 09:02:11 PM
I pretty much agree with clockwork that the original film is far away the best and should probably have never had any sequel. That said, of the sequels, I actually prefer the original run although I kind of like elements of H2O as well.  I loathe the Zombie remake - felt it was utter trash that explained way too much...

With regards to ranking the ones I've seen...haven't seen Zombie's second film...it would probably be

1) original (far and away better than all the rest)
2) II (just for the originality of the killings and suspense of Jamie Lee being stalked through a hospital)
3) IV
4) H2O
5) III (not really in the series but more entertaining than most of the other films)
6) V
7) VI
8) Resurrection
9) Halloween Zombie remake


Title: Re: HALLOWEEN movies (john carpenter)
Post by: major jay on October 31, 2016, 01:49:51 PM
No matter how you rate them I think it's still a good series overall. I'd say out of all of them 2 is a little underrated.