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Title: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 16, 2018, 10:11:53 PM
I watched SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER which is a lot of fun, but stupid.  This is supposed to be about madness, homosexual procurement, cannibalism, and other psychological subjects.   :bouncegiggle:
Great performances by KATHERINE HEPBURN and ELIZABETH TAYLOR... MONTGOMERY CLIFT is in there too.  I think the script was by GORE VIDAL based on TENNESSEE WILLIAMS' play... who denounced the movie.  
 :lookingup:  "...With there open gobbling mouths...  "
http://youtu.be/zuWyRZ4Agz4 (http://youtu.be/zuWyRZ4Agz4) 


What are other HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS movies... that suck?  


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: RCMerchant on March 16, 2018, 10:17:32 PM
LOVE STORY.  I dunno-the WASPS falling in love..gimme a break. Who cares?  And so cheezy.



Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 16, 2018, 10:26:09 PM
LOVE STORY.  I dunno-the WASPS falling in love..gimme a break. Who cares?  And so cheezy.



Jenny is an Italian American Catholic girl.   :teddyr:  I think...  :question: 

I read that book when I was like 8 or 9!!!  It's FILTHY!!!   :drink: :thumbup: 
That dumb movie, this part always makes me think of my brother and his wife: 

http://youtu.be/Th0-EJDEdmQ (http://youtu.be/Th0-EJDEdmQ) 

I don't like that movie, but I always get misty at that part... 





Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: RCMerchant on March 16, 2018, 10:48:01 PM
Pretty much every self involved drama from the 70's. Anything with Sandy Dennis or Elliot Gould or Art Garfunkel counts.


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Pacman000 on March 16, 2018, 11:13:31 PM
I watched SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER which is a lot of fun, but stupid.  This is supposed to be about madness, homosexual procurement, cannibalism, and other psychological subjects.   :bouncegiggle:
Great performances by KATHERINE HEPBURN and ELIZABETH TAYLOR... MONTGOMERY CLIFT is in there too.  I think the script was by GORE VIDAL based on TENNESSEE WILLIAMS' play... who denounced the movie.  
 :lookingup:  "...With there open gobbling mouths...  "
[url]http://youtu.be/zuWyRZ4Agz4[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/zuWyRZ4Agz4[/url]) 


What are other HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS movies... that suck?  

Lobotomies. I know you mention "other psychological subjects," but lobotomies seem to be a big deal, so they're worth mentioning by name.


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: 316zombie on March 17, 2018, 04:29:51 PM
y'all are killin me here, i LOVE that movie! but seriously, the play IS better. i love tennessee williams in any form. rather strange, considering i don't like depressing stuff at all.
   a "get serious"movie that sucked for me is "sybil". i learned to appreciate it in a way, but it just irked me no end,having read the book. i didn't feel like it was serious ENOUGH, if that makes sense.


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 17, 2018, 06:08:25 PM
I watched SUDDENLY LAST SUMMER which is a lot of fun, but stupid.  This is supposed to be about madness, homosexual procurement, cannibalism, and other psychological subjects.   :bouncegiggle:
Great performances by KATHERINE HEPBURN and ELIZABETH TAYLOR... MONTGOMERY CLIFT is in there too.  I think the script was by GORE VIDAL based on TENNESSEE WILLIAMS' play... who denounced the movie.  
 :lookingup:  "...With there open gobbling mouths...  "
[url]http://youtu.be/zuWyRZ4Agz4[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/zuWyRZ4Agz4[/url])  
What are other HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS movies... that suck?  

Lobotomies. I know you mention "other psychological subjects," but lobotomies seem to be a big deal, so they're worth mentioning by name.
Yes, that's what TAYLOR's character is threatened with.  It's hard to take a serious subject seriously in a serious Hollywood movie.  


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 17, 2018, 06:14:02 PM
y'all are killin me here, i LOVE that movie! but seriously, the play IS better. i love tennessee williams in any form. rather strange, considering i don't like depressing stuff at all.
   a "get serious"movie that sucked for me is "sybil". i learned to appreciate it in a way, but it just irked me no end,having read the book. i didn't feel like it was serious ENOUGH, if that makes sense.
I like SYBIL and my family and I have made fun of it for years...  :teddyr:  "the people, the people..."  I love SYBIL... !!!
It's not nearly as complex (or long) as the book.  BUT it's better than that other movie, which TCM has been showing a lot lately, THE THREE FACES OF EVE.  I like it, but it doesn't date well. 


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Pacman000 on March 17, 2018, 06:40:21 PM
How about Mommie Dearest? It's well made, but some things are so over the top it's hard to believe.
And the end makes it seem like the daughter made it all up casue she was left out of the will.

no

WIRE

HANGERS!!!!!!


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: 316zombie on March 17, 2018, 08:25:19 PM
oh definitely john, three faces of eve is okay,but it makes no sense if you know anything about MPD. at least sybil explained the syndrome better.
 pacman,i have never seen that movie, oddly enough. it's one of those" not that important, i'll get to it" movies that you never DO get around to watching. am i alone with doing that with movies, i wonder?


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 17, 2018, 09:08:20 PM
oh definitely john, three faces of eve is okay,but it makes no sense if you know anything about MPD. at least sybil explained the syndrome better.
 pacman,i have never seen that movie, oddly enough. it's one of those" not that important, i'll get to it" movies that you never DO get around to watching. am i alone with doing that with movies, i wonder?
You are not alone.  I have, however, seen the movie.  It ruined FAYE DUNAWAY's career, presumably, but that could have been circumstance, and age.  Age.  Culture is evolving.  Yet everyone wants to look at beauty and youth. 


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Pacman000 on March 17, 2018, 10:10:16 PM
I buy movies all the time, then never have a chance to watch them. :(


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: 316zombie on March 17, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
see,now that i don't do. but that's because i'm an ebayer. if i buy it , i watch it. usually twice. if it isn't worth a 3rd viewing,it hits the auction block.
   but i have netflix queues a mile long, lol!


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: The Burgomaster on March 18, 2018, 08:46:00 AM
see,now that i don't do. but that's because i'm an ebayer. if i buy it , i watch it. usually twice. if it isn't worth a 3rd viewing,it hits the auction block.
   but i have netflix queues a mile long, lol!

I buy a lot of movies (well, not as many as I used to, but I still buy them). I usually watch them within a week or two (except the 50 or 100 movie packs, which I watch slowly over many years). I never get rid of any of them. I just keep increasing my collection. I also have a lot of movies in my Netflix streaming queue (more than 400, I think?)

I recently got these blu-rays (cashed in American Express points on Amazon to get them):

* JUSTICE LEAGUE (3-D)
* DERANGED (I have an uncut VHS copy that my father transferred to DVD-R for me . . . but I found out the blu-ray is also uncut, so I upgraded)
* ZOMBIE
* IT
* VICTOR FRANKENSTEIN

Keep 'em coming, I say!




Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: RCMerchant on March 18, 2018, 08:57:29 AM
see,now that i don't do. but that's because i'm an ebayer. if i buy it , i watch it. usually twice. if it isn't worth a 3rd viewing,it hits the auction block.
   but i have netflix queues a mile long, lol!

* DERANGED (I have an uncut VHS copy that my father transferred to DVD-R for me . . . but I found out the blu-ray is also uncut, so I upgraded)





DERANGED is one of the best movies ever made


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: RCMerchant on March 18, 2018, 08:59:18 AM
Am I alone thinking almost every Meryl Streep movie is over-wrought, hand wringing garbage?


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: claws on March 18, 2018, 10:10:25 AM
Am I alone thinking almost every Meryl Streep movie is over-wrought, hand wringing garbage?

Have you seen Sophie's Choice?


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Alex on March 18, 2018, 10:38:59 AM
Am I alone thinking almost every Meryl Streep movie is over-wrought, hand wringing garbage?

I think the only film of her's I've watched all the way through was Mama Mia (one of Kristi's favourites alas).


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: 316zombie on March 18, 2018, 05:10:44 PM
i think the only one i ever liked was death becomes her. haven't seen many though.


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: The Burgomaster on March 19, 2018, 07:30:42 PM
Am I alone thinking almost every Meryl Streep movie is over-wrought, hand wringing garbage?

I think she has made a lot of movies like this in recent years. But I liked her earlier movies like THE DEER HUNTER, KRAMER VS. KRAMER and HOLOCAUST.


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on March 19, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
Am I alone thinking almost every Meryl Streep movie is over-wrought, hand wringing garbage?

Death becomes her'' was OK.


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: indianasmith on March 19, 2018, 09:33:32 PM
SHOWGIRLS was billed as this gender-smashing, girl power masterpiece - and instead it became a LEGENDARY bad movie, one of the worst of the 1990's.


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Allhallowsday on March 19, 2018, 11:00:34 PM
SHOWGIRLS was billed as this gender-smashing, girl power masterpiece - and instead it became a LEGENDARY bad movie, one of the worst of the 1990's.
Is that why I like that crap?


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: indianasmith on March 19, 2018, 11:13:40 PM
It is almost majestic in its awfulness!   :buggedout:


Title: Re: HOLLYWOOD gets really SERIOUS. But, it doesn't work.
Post by: Trevor on March 20, 2018, 01:56:54 AM
Speaking from a South African point of view, it always amazes me that serious anti-apartheid films such as Cry Freedom, A World Apart, A Dry White Season, The Wilby Conspiracy and others were box office flops, but Lethal Weapon 2 - an action comedy - was a box office hit.  :question:

Both Cry Freedom (once it was un-banned) and LW2 were hits here so now I am confused: I mean, more confused than normal.  :question: