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Title: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 18, 2018, 04:20:22 PM
If you don't like what someone says, you criticize the comments instead of attacking the person who posted them.

I've been guilty of focusing on a person and not the opinion and when I did I shouldn't have. It's been done to me and I know I didn't like it.

If we could lose personal attacks and stick with polite rebuttals it would be a big improvement.

Or maybe better still, if someone upsets you, stop reading that person's posts, but respect that person's right to a point of view.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: RCMerchant on July 18, 2018, 04:24:03 PM
If you don't like what someone says, you criticize the comments instead of attacking the person who posted them.

I've been guilty of focusing on a person and not the opinion and when I did I shouldn't have. It's been done to me and I know I didn't like it.

If we could lose personal attacks and stick with polite rebuttals it would be a big improvement.

Or maybe better still, if someone upsets you, stop reading that person's posts, but respect that person's right to a point of view.

Howabout you not trying to dictate how people do things because it don't suit you??
I'm gonna say what the f**k I want- because it's AMERICA, and I have that right.
If you want to try and stop that. Good luck.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: RCMerchant on July 18, 2018, 06:44:52 PM
I got a new guideline here! Howabout every time me or you get in an argument- we make it an ER VS RC Thread- so the other members don't have to deal with our mutual disgust with each other?



Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 18, 2018, 07:02:00 PM
How about we don't fight at all? You're not the owner here or the moderator and I have as much right to be here as you do. I also have the right to be here without you attacking and harassing everything I write. There are probably lots of places on the internet to go argue and flame people, so if you want to fight with someone, go there.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: RCMerchant on July 18, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
How about we don't fight at all? You're not the owner here or the moderator and I have as much right to be here as you do. I also have the right to be here without you attacking and harassing everything I write. There are probably lots of places on the internet to go argue and flame people, so if you want to fight with someone, go there.

Yup. Eat your own words. I don't come here to fight. Last time I looked, I post about MOVIES. This is the ONLY place you post. And it's always about YOU.
I know about films, I post about films- that's what brought me to BAD MOVIES.org.
Be a mod? Not even close. I don't have the even steady nerves like Rev or Andrew.
I wouldn't kick you out, though. Because your right. You have the right to say what's on your mind.
And I have the right to reply. If you don't like how I do it- oh well. Lifes a b***h.
And I'm sure you feel the same way about me.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Allhallowsday on July 18, 2018, 11:56:03 PM
If you don't like what someone says, you criticize the comments instead of attacking the person who posted them.

I've been guilty of focusing on a person and not the opinion and when I did I shouldn't have. It's been done to me and I know I didn't like it.

If we could lose personal attacks and stick with polite rebuttals it would be a big improvement.

Or maybe better still, if someone upsets you, stop reading that person's posts, but respect that person's right to a point of view.
 

You're an impoverished celibate loser whose bitterness with life leaks like an overused diaper.

Oh, BTW: Hypocrite.  Now: TRUCE. 


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 19, 2018, 09:49:12 AM
Well, John, since you worked in one last jab and then cried TRUCE, allow me a final retort, eh?

I've noticed you write whatever you want about another person, truly cruel things, but when something is said back to you, you whine about it for a long time, bringing it up over and over after the fact, then act like the remark that hurt your feelings fell out of a clear blue sky without any instigation from you.

If you splash in the kiddie pool, you have to expect to get splashed back.

I've also said polite things to you, conciliatory things, both out here and in private, yet you never mention those. When your sister in law was killed I expressed all kinds of sympathy, even on the anniversaries of her passing. I complimented you on some moments where you've shown integrity.

Also if you read back to the start of this thread I mentioned I have been guilty of attacking a person along with his or her idea, and I was wrong. Argumentum ad hominem represent a weak intimidation tactic even when disgusted by a person, so in admitting I'd done wrong I'm not a hypocrite to that extent, only someone promising to try to do better.

It shouldn't take a "truce" for people to be polite to each other, especially on....a message board, a nonsense place like this, but if you want to refer to a truce, fine, truce it is. Good luck to you. Pursue happiness and be well. I won't be the first to violate a truce with you, though I might recommend for once minding your own business where you're not concerned could help promote harmony.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Allhallowsday on July 19, 2018, 09:59:34 AM
Well, John, since you worked in one last jab and then cried TRUCE, allow me a final retort, eh?

I've noticed you write whatever you want about another person, truly cruel things, but when something is said back to you, you whine about it for a long time, bringing it up over and over after the fact, then act like the remark that hurt your feelings fell out of a clear blue sky without any instigation from you.

If you splash in the kiddie pool, you have to expect to get splashed back.

I've also said polite things to you, conciliatory things, both out here and in private, yet you never mention those. When your sister in law was killed I expressed all kinds of sympathy, even on the anniversaries of her passing. I complimented you on some moments where you've shown integrity.

Also if you read back to the start of this thread I mentioned I have been guilty of attacking a person along with his or her idea, and I was wrong. Argumentum ad hominem represent a weak intimidation tactic even when disgusted by a person, so in admitting I'd done wrong I'm not a hypocrite to that extent, only someone promising to try to do better.

It shouldn't take a "truce" for people to be polite to each other, especially on....a message board, a nonsense place like this, but if you want to refer to a truce, fine, truce it is. Good luck to you. Pursue happiness and be well. I won't be the first to violate a truce with you, though I might recommend for once minding your own business where you're not concerned could help promote harmony.
Blah blah blah.  I would expect a schoolyard bully to write all that self serving nonsense.  Until you agree, there is no TRUCE.   


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 19, 2018, 10:44:13 AM
Agree to what, John? I missed something, hon.

And, hey, "blahblahblah" is a pitch thrown at my knees, lol, since we Irish are gifted with gab in ways few others understand, a love affair with the sound of words and more words that rise as noteless music from the pregnant joy of the soul, a gift when we've had few others, convincing us God made us fit to be Heaven's bards and Earth's raconteurs, and you shouldn't pick on me for being made that way since I can't help it any more than my dear cousin (who once again did not wash his breakfast dishes this morning, I see) can help his sodomy. You said you had Irish relations, don't they talk a lot? It's our slice of the great human diversity, kind of like how drunk drivers contribute to population control, or Mexicans have perfected cliff diving. Multi-cultural awareness, John, is a virtue in our rainbow America.

Ask, dear heart, and I will probably agree, what unfulfilled term and condition did you set that escaped my notice?


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: 316zombie on July 19, 2018, 03:15:36 PM
evelyn, if you can't take what you dish out, STOP DISHING IT. THERE'S your guideline.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 19, 2018, 03:46:53 PM
evelyn, if you can't take what you dish out, STOP DISHING IT. THERE'S your guideline.
Honey, I could take you night or day in any way you ever dreamed. You and all your children.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: 316zombie on July 19, 2018, 03:51:26 PM
i doubt that. i don't deny being a troll elsewhere, and i don't do it here, other than to retaliate to YOUR CONSTANT trolling. if you don't like it, that's YOUR problem. and no, i won't stoop to YOUR level of trolling here, the members expect better from ME. :cheers:


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 19, 2018, 03:55:50 PM
No, you'll just pick fights and pretend to have the high ground. A lot of that going around.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Alex on July 19, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
Ladies, I'll post topless photos of myself if you stop arguing.

Or should that be I'll post them if you don't?

One of those.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: RCMerchant on July 19, 2018, 04:01:46 PM
Ladies, I'll post topless photos of myself if you stop arguing.

Or should that be I'll post them if you don't?

One of those.

I'll stop if you DON'T post topless photos of yourself!  :twirl:


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 19, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
I can understand me being called many un-nice names but what is with this constant "troll" label when I'm just responding? Wouldn't the person who started it be a troll? See I don't know these rules. Am I a troll once removed or a demi-troll or something?



Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 19, 2018, 04:16:58 PM
Aw, 316, I guess I shouldn't have said that to you, you may be great and terrible beyond all imagination. For all I know you may be so silver-fingered on the keyboard you could come up with insults that'd reduce me to loose meat. I haven't seen it but it may be true.

How about a reciprosity policy. I will treat you as politely as you treat me, no more, no less? No snide put-downs, no insults, no commenting and then pretending to have the high ground, just....answering in kind.



Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Chainsawmidget on July 19, 2018, 06:06:49 PM
I don't like the word "troll." 

"He's just being a troll," "I'm just trolling."



Call it what it really is "being an @$$hole."


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Ash on July 19, 2018, 08:43:02 PM
You kids play nice now... :tongueout:


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Allhallowsday on July 19, 2018, 09:29:05 PM
Agree to what, John? I missed something, hon.

And, hey, "blahblahblah" is a pitch thrown at my knees, lol, since we Irish are gifted with gab in ways few others understand, a love affair with the sound of words and more words that rise as noteless music from the pregnant joy of the soul, a gift when we've had few others, convincing us God made us fit to be Heaven's bards and Earth's raconteurs, and you shouldn't pick on me for being made that way since I can't help it any more than my dear cousin (who once again did not wash his breakfast dishes this morning, I see) can help his sodomy. You said you had Irish relations, don't they talk a lot? It's our slice of the great human diversity, kind of like how drunk drivers contribute to population control, or Mexicans have perfected cliff diving. Multi-cultural awareness, John, is a virtue in our rainbow America.

Ask, dear heart, and I will probably agree, what unfulfilled term and condition did you set that escaped my notice?
Sorry, Babe.  Yes, I know you claim Irish blood (and I don't mean on your hands!).  In your desire to be honest, you have written some unkind remarks about "the Irish".  I'm Irish on both sides.  I questioned motivation for such remarks about one's own people.  I thought it was worth pointing it out since you mention Irish again. 

I only mean a truce in the sense of "not fighting".  That would be the only agreement.  Let's move forward.  I am not interested in a pile-on. 


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: 316zombie on July 19, 2018, 10:54:18 PM
you know what? i've walked away from this board several times in order to NOT be rude to evelyn, because most of the members her thought/think highly of her. and tonight, i'm going to do it again, because i will NOT stoop to her level here, but i've got something to say first.
  evelyn, did you think nobody would notice your cute little remarks in the various random remarks threads that were OBVIOUSLY bait for me? the ones about children, when you were so INCREDIBLY insulting about my past including abortion? did you think NOBODY would notice that you included " all your children" in your insult on this thread? did you think that NOBODY would notice the constant " god& morals" crap too, when you know i'm a witch, and many here are atheists? you were wrong.
  and now i will take my leave for a bit, because I'M not going to be the one who forces others to leave. YOU will be though, honey. i saw it happen in the past, and it will happen again.
  later taters, back when i'm back! or not! i won't be the board destroyer OR the friendship destroyer. y'all know how to find me anytime you want to chat, i'm never too busy for my friends and family.
 have at it, evelyn, you got your way again. but remember, you reap what you sow. i don't think you'll enjoy your harvest.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Pacman000 on July 19, 2018, 11:14:10 PM
There are Christians here too; do not call God & morals "crap," unless you want to cause more trouble. :(


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Gene Worm on July 19, 2018, 11:18:53 PM
There are Christians here too; do not call God & morals "crap," unless you want to cause more trouble. :(

I should probably avoid getting involved in this mess, but I believe 316 was referring to OPyas's condescending and arbitrary applications of "god and morals" into their arguments and statements.

Or maybe it's just that there are people here, perhaps including myself, who really do just think of that as crap. Either way, I don't see what good it would do to "cause more trouble" just based on another's opinions and beliefs.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: El Misfit on July 20, 2018, 12:09:54 AM
Can we not argue about etiquette? Pretty please?


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Allhallowsday on July 20, 2018, 12:35:17 AM
ECH!  Pile on!!!  And the worst kind.   :bluesad:


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 20, 2018, 08:56:34 AM
you know what? i've walked away from this board several times in order to NOT be rude to evelyn, because most of the members her thought/think highly of her. and tonight, i'm going to do it again, because i will NOT stoop to her level here, but i've got something to say first.
  evelyn, did you think nobody would notice your cute little remarks in the various random remarks threads that were OBVIOUSLY bait for me? the ones about children, when you were so INCREDIBLY insulting about my past including abortion? did you think NOBODY would notice that you included " all your children" in your insult on this thread? did you think that NOBODY would notice the constant " god& morals" crap too, when you know i'm a witch, and many here are atheists? you were wrong.
  and now i will take my leave for a bit, because I'M not going to be the one who forces others to leave. YOU will be though, honey. i saw it happen in the past, and it will happen again.
  later taters, back when i'm back! or not! i won't be the board destroyer OR the friendship destroyer. y'all know how to find me anytime you want to chat, i'm never too busy for my friends and family.
 have at it, evelyn, you got your way again. but remember, you reap what you sow. i don't think you'll enjoy your harvest.

316, you've contributed good things here and before everything got so messed up last spring I genuinely enjoyed knowing you. Rather than have you go, I'd much rather have you here getting along. I said absolutely nothing to you until after you'd said several things about and to me. I don't want to fight with you or drive you away.

The good you've done in your life is to your credit, the bad is on you, not me, and it is not for me to use against you. If you treat me even neutrally instead of negatively I'll gladly do the same to you and will even start us off on the right foot here by saying I don't think you're a bad person and I hope you don't leave.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 20, 2018, 09:00:41 AM
Agree to what, John? I missed something, hon.

And, hey, "blahblahblah" is a pitch thrown at my knees, lol, since we Irish are gifted with gab in ways few others understand, a love affair with the sound of words and more words that rise as noteless music from the pregnant joy of the soul, a gift when we've had few others, convincing us God made us fit to be Heaven's bards and Earth's raconteurs, and you shouldn't pick on me for being made that way since I can't help it any more than my dear cousin (who once again did not wash his breakfast dishes this morning, I see) can help his sodomy. You said you had Irish relations, don't they talk a lot? It's our slice of the great human diversity, kind of like how drunk drivers contribute to population control, or Mexicans have perfected cliff diving. Multi-cultural awareness, John, is a virtue in our rainbow America.

Ask, dear heart, and I will probably agree, what unfulfilled term and condition did you set that escaped my notice?
Sorry, Babe.  Yes, I know you claim Irish blood (and I don't mean on your hands!).  In your desire to be honest, you have written some unkind remarks about "the Irish".  I'm Irish on both sides.  I questioned motivation for such remarks about one's own people.  I thought it was worth pointing it out since you mention Irish again. 

I only mean a truce in the sense of "not fighting".  That would be the only agreement.  Let's move forward.  I am not interested in a pile-on. 

I mildly gripe about Ireland but I am proud to hold Irish citizenship, proud of the contributions Irish have made in the world, I love my family over there, and part of my heart stays always on that beautiful island where I spent so much of my childhood. You ever pick on a sibling or friend you love? It's kind of like that. Don't know if I'd die for Ireland but I proudly live for it, and I have served it.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Allhallowsday on July 20, 2018, 10:24:56 AM
...I mildly gripe about Ireland but I am proud to hold Irish citizenship, proud of the contributions Irish have made in the world, I love my family over there, and part of my heart stays always on that beautiful island where I spent so much of my childhood. You ever pick on a sibling or friend you love? It's kind of like that. Don't know if I'd die for Ireland but I proudly live for it, and I have served it.
Glad to hear it.  Speaking only for myself: TRUCE? 


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: ER on July 20, 2018, 01:08:20 PM
Absolutely, truce, peace, the pursuit of friendship even. May the sun never again set on bad blood between us.  :cheers:


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: justme2013 on July 20, 2018, 01:13:06 PM
Ladies, I'll post topless photos of myself if you stop arguing.

Or should that be I'll post them if you don't?

One of those.

I'll stop if you DON'T post topless photos of yourself!  :twirl:

I own several topless photo's of him, I could always post them.


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Alex on July 20, 2018, 02:37:26 PM
Just remember sweetheart, what is good for the goose...


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Zapranoth on July 21, 2018, 09:04:09 PM
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."

 :teddyr:


Title: Re: How About A New Guideline Here
Post by: Rev. Powell on July 22, 2018, 04:58:21 PM
Seems like talking about getting along doesn't help things.  :bluesad: Probably the only solution is to simply live the "Golden Rule," without preaching it.

I do think people all over  are starting to get sick of the constant divisions and elevated incivility on both sides. Once people get sick enough of it, it will fade back to normal levels.