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Title: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Chainsawmidget on July 21, 2018, 10:19:04 AM
James Gunn, director of Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2 as well as scripot writer for Tromeo and Juliet and Scooby Doo 2 was just let go by Disney.  he will no longer be involved in Guardians of the Galaxy 3.  

Why?  

Because years ago, long before they hired him for Guardians of the Galaxy 1, he made a bunch of offensive comments on twitter, comments he admits making for jokes and shock value.  After he was hired, he apologized and changed his attitude and hasn't said anything like this since.  

And now people have found them, made a huge deal about it and Disney says it doesn't want to be associated with that kind of attitude.  So now he's getting fired for something he did years ago that he's apologized for since, and wasn't even a big deal when he was hired.    


The moral of this story?  Don't use twitter.  Ever.  

Also this probably blows our chances of seeing Mark Hammil in Guardians 3.  Gunn and Hammil lived close to each other and talked about ti a few times.  


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Pacman000 on July 21, 2018, 10:41:37 AM
CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/entertainment/james-gunn-exits-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/20/entertainment/james-gunn-exits-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/index.html) He made jokes about pedophilia, for shock value. Since then, he's mellowed & tries to focus on things which promote love.

BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44912175 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44912175) Some actors who've worked with Gunn are defending him. Others on social media see his old actions as indefensible.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Chainsawmidget on July 21, 2018, 10:52:43 AM
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Others on social media see his old actions as indefensible.
Which translates to "If you ever did anything bad, don't bother trying to apologize or be a better person later.  You can never improve and you will never be forgive for it."


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: lester1/2jr on July 21, 2018, 09:31:34 PM
ever since Stern went off the regular air in 2005 something has changed.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Trevor on July 24, 2018, 07:42:31 AM
I'm left wondering if James Gunn was dropped from Guardians 3 for this, why is Trevor Noah still employed? Something's not right here.  :question:


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Dark Alex on July 24, 2018, 09:02:32 AM
Not defending his old comments, but he did something wrong as a younger man, apologised for what he'd said long before this broke as big news. Seems a bit unfair to me, but I also understand why the decision was made to give him the boot as much as I disagree with it.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: lester1/2jr on July 24, 2018, 05:08:16 PM
people need to lay off entertainers.

trevor - two wrongs don't make a right. comedians are programmed to say edgy stuff cuz thats whats funny. obviously you can't go aroundsaying this stuff in life, but we need to give these guys some slack I feel


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on July 24, 2018, 09:55:11 PM
Sooooo,  a studio founded by a racist anti-semite who supported uncle 'dolf early on fires a guy who made some racist tweets years ago and apologized for it.  I wonder when they will officially banish old Walt from their history....


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: lester1/2jr on July 24, 2018, 10:19:53 PM
what is this thing with firing people? it's like some gross caricature of community standards. what happened to if you don't like something turn the channel


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Pacman000 on July 24, 2018, 11:02:35 PM
They're afraid people will turn the channel.

As for Disney... Most historians reject the idea he was a Nazi supporter.

https://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/why-walt-disney-is-a-jew-hating-hitler-loving-racist-37185.html (https://www.cartoonbrew.com/disney/why-walt-disney-is-a-jew-hating-hitler-loving-racist-37185.html)

http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/debunking-disney-urban-myths/ (http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/debunking-disney-urban-myths/)

Fairly good discussion here: https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/07/04/was-walt-disney-an-anti-semite/ (https://skeptoid.com/blog/2013/07/04/was-walt-disney-an-anti-semite/) The author concluded that Disney may have been slightly anti-semantic in his early years, but he wasn't discriminatory, & he changed over time. The author also points out comedy based on race/ethnicity was common in the early 20th century; even a studio owned by Jews (Warner Bros.) used ethnic gags.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on July 25, 2018, 12:57:30 AM
Most historians being ones who might fear a visit from a lawyer wearing a mickey mouse tie clip.

There's quite a bit of evidence that ol' walt was something of a fascist. and he did support nazism in the early days before he was paid big bucks to do anti nazi cartoons.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/06/walt-the-quasi-nazi-the-fascist-history-of-disney.html (https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/06/walt-the-quasi-nazi-the-fascist-history-of-disney.html)

The makers of bioshock modeled megalomaniac andrew ryan on walt disney along with some other real people.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Ryan_(BioShock) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Ryan_(BioShock))





Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: FatFreddysCat on July 25, 2018, 09:28:44 AM
I swear, Twitter is cancer. How many careers has it wrecked/killed now?


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on July 25, 2018, 11:46:24 PM
I swear, Twitter is cancer. How many careers has it wrecked/killed now?

ONE TOO FEW!!!


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on July 25, 2018, 11:55:05 PM
(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37755510_2271532599529777_6761340338603819008_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=52630a67fb1954c9feba06f9d47fabf9&oe=5BCF9965)

Somebody got their meme right.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Pacman000 on July 26, 2018, 07:45:17 AM
But Walt Disney did fire some one for making an antisemitic comment:

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Robert Sherman was a Jewish-American composer who worked with his brother Richard to compose some of the most memorable Disney songs of all time including the music for the film Mary Poppins.

He shared the following story: “One time, [my brother] Richard and I overheard a discussion between Walt and one of his lawyers. This attorney was a real bad guy, didn’t like minorities. He said something about Richard and me, and he called us ‘these Jew boys writing these songs.’ Well, Walt defended us, and he fired the lawyer.”

Under Walt, many people of the Jewish faith held positions of authority at Walt Disney Productions including Marty Sklar, Kay Kamen, Richard Fleischer, David Swift, Harry Tyle, Sid Miller and dozens more.

“I can say that in extensive casting and personnel decisions, I never saw Walt being anti-Semitic. Too, I never even heard Walt make an anti-Semitic remark. Over the years, I’ve been amazed at how many different men Walt ‘really was’ as told by those who knew very little about him,” wrote producer Harry Tytle.


http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/debunking-disney-urban-myths/ (http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/debunking-disney-urban-myths/)


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Archivist on July 29, 2018, 10:04:57 PM
The current sociopolitical climate in America and much of the English speaking West is just the pits.  People are being fired from jobs for something they did years and years ago because their employers fear the backlash from the PC brigade.  And it's fueled by social media hugboxes and echo chambers and 'online activists' who get a thrill out of ruining someone's life in the name of some effed up PC cause.  Welcome to the post world wide web, where everything you say online will be dredged up in years to come and used against you.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: 316zombie on July 30, 2018, 06:56:55 PM
disney needs to get a grip on REALITY. without the original stars, there IS no part 3, and they can't force the actors to make the movie, as far as i know. 


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Pacman000 on July 30, 2018, 07:10:30 PM
The actors might be under contract; if so they'd probably need to pay a huge fee or give up the other films' royalties to get out of it.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Chainsawmidget on July 30, 2018, 11:00:00 PM
The cast put out an open letter.  

(https://i.imgur.com/YDJSAKz.jpg)

Also, Rooker has quit Twitter because of this and deactivated his account.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Pacman000 on July 31, 2018, 10:23:47 AM
That's a great letter.


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Chainsawmidget on July 31, 2018, 01:50:58 PM
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Sources say there has been a growing feeling that Gunn could be reinstated, especially because Marvel and Disney have been unusually radio-silent on who could replace him since the firing. Production is slated to start at the top of 2019, and following Gunn’s removal from the film, it was thought that Marvel and Disney would need to move quickly to replace him, since the replacement would likely have to do some work on the script.

With Walt Disney chairman Bob Iger out on vacation currently, insiders believed a decision would not be made until he returned to work.

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/guardians-of-the-galaxy-cast-james-gunn-support-1202889736/


Title: Re: James Gunn dropped after old tweets
Post by: Archivist on August 15, 2018, 07:49:04 AM
Looks like James Gunn is in even deeper doo-doo than expected. Now there's photos of him dressed as a Catholic priest at a themed costume party.  A fancy dress party with a pedo theme???

https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/11/photos-surface-of-guardians-director-james-gunn-at-pedophilia-themed-party/ (https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/11/photos-surface-of-guardians-director-james-gunn-at-pedophilia-themed-party/)

I read some of the jokes he tweeted years ago, they were in very poor taste.  And these pictures are bizarre, to say the least.

At the same time, there are people who are accusing him of being a hidden pedo, and I don't agree.  If he was using humour in a very provocative and socially extreme way, I can see how a person might joke like this for shock value.