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Legalize it or not?  I do not do marijuana,  I have no desire to use it but I believe it should be legalized.

Also I have seen a woman go thru breast cancer,  the whole 3 ring circus: removal,  radiation,  chemo.  She suffered baldness,  nausea,  sickness, all you've heard of.  She used marijuana illegally and it helped her tremendously.  I saw this.

I can see no reason whatsoever why marijuana would be illetal while alcohol and tobacco are legal.

Would it be a good thing? No. Would it be the lesser evil compared to what we have now? Yes.

Medicinal marijuana?  Absolutely, 100%.  It works better than most alternatives and has less side effects.
Recreational marijuana?  I've slowly come around on this.  I don't use the stuff (nor do I drink alcohol, for that matter) and really have no intention of trying it if it does become legal, but I think it would probably help empty out our overcrowded prisons, provide the government a new source of tax revenue, and increase sales at convenience stores and other purveyors of late-night snacks nationwide.

I agree completely. It seems to me the reason it isn't legal is because of the private prison, alcohol, pharmaceutical and tobacco industries throwing money at politicians to keep it illegal to keep their business afloat. The fact it's illegal is absolutely atrocious and I've never heard a good reason as to why it shouldn't be legalized.


How is it evil?

Marijuana legalization isn't something I'd get too passionate about one way or the other. Prohibition is a bad joke with deplorable consequences, but as for it being evil,  marijuana is only evil insofar as it's misused but like alcohol and much else I've seen it do harm to people in a variety of ways. If nothing else it got my pre-teen cousin raped.

I commend your views here. 

Back in my early teens, when they started teaching us why booze & cigarettes & angel dust & glue & all that other stuff was bad for you, all they had to say was "Marijuana is against the LAW! End of story!"
No examples of how it's bad for you or explanation of why it's illegal, and as such, no one's ever been able to that it should be or stay illegal.

Just let 'em have it & tax the Hell out of it.

Exactly right.  America has allowed corporations to turn prisons in a for profit business built on consuming human lives.  

Legalized it so that the privatized prisons can go bankrupt. Plus there's worse drugs out there, weed should be viewed on the same level as alcohol. I've tried it, but didn't feel high. If I were to try it again I would eat it.

Mom is a medical marijuana proponent so, yes to that but not recreational weed.

Although I do agree if people want it, allow it, tax it and so on.

Also you can die from alcohol.  Directly and quickly.  Kids going to college learn that every year. The only people who die from marijuana use are actors in bad movies.

Tobacco kills abd we all know it,  except for experts who've sold their souls to big tobacco companies. 

Has marijuana directly killed anyone in reality?  I don't know.  The data says it's unlikely.


Anyway,  here....  (http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2rf6qoG891qzhoqfo1_500.jpg)

I'd rather be around someone who was stoned than someone drunk, and I'm not bashing marijuana users or arguing against legalization, because I don't oppose legalization and I think most people are no worse off from the occasional bowl, but on the subject of marijuana being "harmless" I do have to say marijuana causes a sudden spike in heart rate and blood pressure and emergency room doctors have noticed a surge in cardiac incidents among marijuana users, especially baby boomers who think they can smoke as much at sixty as they used to at twenty, and their hearts testify otherwise.

Aside from accidents that happen to people when stoned, freakouts, children neglected, money spent on getting high that could go elsewhere, users driving under the influence, lost productivity, and overall bad judgment, the actual risks arising from marijuana use among the healthy are probably close to nil, but marijuana isn't totally harmless. It also is addictive and anyone who thinks it's not is naive.

It seems like most stoners I know smoke as a way of life, daily, many staying stoned all the time, and can anyone really make a case for that being a positive thing? That's why I described legalization as the lesser of evils, kind of like fighting a just war is a lesser evil.

While there are lots of older stoners, most people sort of....outgrow pot anyway, one way or the other. Kind of like the other trademarks of youth like social protests and fashionable causes and wanting to live in Prague, like half my friends talked about doing in the '90s. (None did.)

I once saw a NORML study that asked why marijuana use peaks in the 20s and declines sharply in the 30s and thereafter, and I thought, well, real life replaces childhood.

Anyway, legalize it, tax it, shut down the criminal element and free up prison space, yeah, but let's not pretend it's a good thing to sanction more intoxication.

Legalize and tax it.

FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO SAY LEGALIZE AND TAX IT DID YOU KNOW that they already tax drugs even tho they're illegal? the drug taxes are exorbitant and impossibly high and paying them does not protect you from the penalties of drug use or possession, but not paying them allows the system to "pile on" penalty after penalty.

https://www.treatmentsolutions.com/drug-tax-stamps/ (https://www.treatmentsolutions.com/drug-tax-stamps/)

Yes they already tax drugs at rates that are higher than the drugs themselves. They know people won;t pay the tax so it lets them make a tax caSE OUT OF POSSESSION AND APPLY MORE PANALTIES AND TAKE MORE OF A PERSON'S MONEY. damn caps key.

http://norml.org/component/zoo/category/marijuana-tax-stamp-laws-and-penalties (http://norml.org/component/zoo/category/marijuana-tax-stamp-laws-and-penalties)

Basically I think this exactly, except I drink alcohol. The other main reasons being that tobacco and alcohol, while being legal, can be more harmful to people than  marjuana.

Okay, I'll concede to whatever this means, though it doesn't site revenue generated.
And, while Colorado has admittedly given none of that ninety million dollars in tax revenues to the public school systems like they promised (a depressing act of hypocrisy you'll find everywhere you go), a measly three million of those marijuana revenues have gone to make great strides in solving the homeless problem.

Legalize it, don' criticisize it, mon.

We had this debate years ago on this forum and I was one of the few in favor off legalization. Attitudes have changed dramatically in a short time.

Actually, all drugs should be deciriminalized (yes, even heroin). Decirminalization means not a crime to use or possess (although you may still be subject to civil fines), but still a crime to produce distribute. Funds that used to be spent on incarceration are spent on rehabilitation instead.  It's the Portugese model, and it's been a success by all acounts.

Recreational marijuana is legal in Massachusetts, but you can't smoke it in public.

Serious question here: I hard about a state that """legalized""" (yes triple quotes for that one)  recreational marijuana in low amounts, -BUT! - it was still illegal to grow,  buy,  sell or trade for it.  Soooo,  you could technically possess and use a little pot for rec use IF you could materialize it out of thin air.

Is Massachusetts like that? I'm asking.

No. Massachusetts will have licensed stores where you can buy it. Technically, that was supposed to start on July 1, but Massachusetts drags its feet on everything, so there have been delays in the first store actually opening. I think the licenses are "out there," but the people who are opening the stores need to wait for some red tape to get cleared. Legalization was voted in on the same ballot as the Trump vs. Clinton election, with a July 1, 2018 launch date.

Aaaaand . . . here it is:


https://boston.curbed.com/2018/6/29/17514824/marijuana-massachusetts-what-to-know

Oh,  this was years and years ago so not a modern case.

You can grow it here, and even sell it- as long as your liscened. And you can smoke it. Just don't be found without a card. Even then, you might got only a fine.
But Michigan used to f**k you over if you got busted with weed not too long ago.

i agree with rev, all drugs should be decriminalized. smoking pot has helped so many people i know, so have edibles for those with lung issues. my husband has high blood pressure, and both of his doctors recommended that he go back to smoking pot, since he also has issues with anxiety.
   since he started smoking again, about 2 years ago, his BP meds have been cut in half, his pacemaker readings are normal since he isn't on the edge of a panic attack when he hooks up to the machine at home, and he doesn't get the superhigh respiration and pulse readings at the doc's office that he used to( he suffers from white coat syndrome)  if he smokes a small amount before his appointment. his docs are very pleased about that.
   neither of us are heavy smokers when it comes to pot, but in my case it helps me with vertigo problems and arthritis problems too. and it has helped 3 of my close friends to slow down the progress of glaucoma and macular degeneration.

I take a bottle of nitros every where I go. I also take 5 different heart and blood medicines.
Since I got my SSI, I been smoking more pot. I go through a $20 bag in about a week...it depends.
I can walk to town without taking a nitro lately. It used to be I had to take 1 on the way there, and 1 on the way back. Now I can walk there and back without it. And town ain't that far. you can walk from one end of Lawton to the other in about 10 minutes.
The American Indians knew it was good medicine.

(Plus it mellows me out and I don't drink as much.)

that's good progress, ronny, even faster than for curtis!

I don't think it has anything to do with that. I don't have a Pacemaker.
I reckon I may someday soon. Whaddaya gonna do, right? I hope your hubby keeps getting better! I know how it is, man. :thumbup:

Indy for President!  :cheers:

You'd probably be better off with me as president.

I'm not for legalizing all drugs, as is I can't ever see myself being ok with legalizing crystal meth no matter how moch I love walter white as a new american hero. I know too much about the origin of crystal meth to consider legalizing it.

Nah. No offence- but your even too apes**t for me.   :drink:

 :teddyr: :teddyr:

Dangit RC, I can't give you karma and sometimes you really deserve it!! ROFL

Oh please. what's in heir now makes me look sane and reasonable...

This is true... but replacing one radical with another makes no sense.