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Movies where the bad guy wins.  How do you like  them?  Any ones you like or hate?

There are several movies where the bad guys win without most people realizing it. The death wish movies for example.  Bronson was a murderer,  legally.  Law and order types must see him as a bad guy but he usually won.

In 'skyfall' the bad guy wanted to destroy M and by and large won, he wrecked her organization,  exposed what she did to him, hunted her down and caused her death.

Hannibal lecter won in his movies.

The Midnight Meat Train (2008). The main villain dies but the hero takes his place. On the fifth or sixth watching, it finally clicked with me that the end of the movie is actually the lead up to the beginning.

Equinox (1970). They went to hell. Or something. Some guy goes insane. It ain't cool. But it's fun!

KING KONG  (1933). I mean, com'on. Kong wasn't the bad guy.

Darn right.

And the quasi-remake the EVIL DEAD (1982).
I like both films!

RACE WITH THE DEVIL has the motor cross folks in the RV getting swamped by small town Satanists.
Gotta watch out for them small town hicks! They worship the devil, run around with chainsaws, and eat human flesh!

THE WICKER MAN

AEROBICIDE

never thought I'd mention those 2 in the same post

The good guys won in The Wicker Man. They were just simple farming folk defending their traditions against the bigoted outsider.

Zardoz (1974) is a mixed bag for me. I can't quite tell who are the bad guys and good guys. Are they the Utopian race who dwell in their paradise, or are the bad guys the Brutals and the Executioners?

Around the same time period, Beneath The Planet Of The Apes (1970) is another dystopian future movie where no one seems to win and the opposing sides are morally ambiguous. Some might see the mutant humans as bad, others as good. As a fun aside, I have the comic adaptation of this movie and I think there was a record that went with it!

Ooh, you just gave me a huge flashback. I think as a very young child I owned that comic and record (I am remembering a 7 inch flexi disc).

In John Carpenter's the THING- you really don't know.  :question:

I wasn't going to reply to this, but, then I got to thinking about war movies. Who's the villain in the war movie Waterloo? Where Rod Steiger plays Napoleon and Christopher Plummer plays Wellington. With Wellington and the Allies beating Napoleon and the French.

Another case for who is the villain, and who is not is . . .
Zulu Dawn.
Where the Zulu Warriors defeated the whites at the battle of Isandlwana.

And any version of the Alamo. I haven't seen the Texans win once, even, if we can presume they are the heroes of the film.

A Bridge Too Far
--the Germans win.

As for the Japanese, they win in . . .
Wake Island and
Bataan, where Robert Taylor is the last one left, manning a .30-caliber machinegun and shouting out to the approaching Japanese soldiers: "Come on you, sons of b***hes!" Bold words for a 1943 film.

And I'm sure there are others, that at the moment, escape me.







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Godzilla.  Nature created godzilla to punish mankind for violating it with the atomic bomb and it's fallout.  Then those damn little Japanese destroy him before he can make people give up nuclear weapons.  (For those of you lacking humor,  this was a joke.)

Yasssss something like that! The record slipped into the back of the comic. Sadly, I'm unable to find the record, but I still have the comic in my collection. Therein lies a host of late 70's and early 80's comic adaptations including Star Wars, Blade Runner, Krull, Buckaroo Banzai, Condorman, Clash of the Titans and the first two Indiana Jones movies! I regularly thank my parents for being so indulgent with me as a kid.

The Skeleton Key (2005).

Don't remember much but remember the end not sure of my thoughts.  However, remember the antagonists more or less get what they want.

Midnight express: convicted felon and drug smuggler from america justly sentenced to prison in turkey murders guard and escapes justice. (The movie was utter bs, even the main character admitted it. And i'm being funny again.)

20 million miles to earth: Evil humans invade venus,  kidnap unborn child, take it to their alien world for research and experimentation, later murder it. (Actually no, not kidding, that is basically the plot.)

Event Horizon (1997) still gives me the willies. Space crew recovers a ship with an experimental jumpdrive that appears to have gone to Hell. IMO it's a must see for everyone who would come to a site like this. The ending is deliberately ambiguous but I believe that the Bad Guys won.

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Scarecrows (1988) is a film about a band of military thieves who find themselves in a farm, deserted but for the scarecrows. There's a vaguely Lovecraftian element to this, as the farmers are portrayed as being black magic practitioners who live on as scarecrows, and they return to life to kill the intruders. This played during the good old days of early 90's Australian TV, when they would show crappy and not so crappy horror movies late at night.

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHuSVngFdv0#)

Gone Girl (2014) is an exercise in duplicity and manipulation, and ends with the framed man being baby-trapped. Now that's a modern horror film.

NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (1968) the hero boards off the house- after fighting zombies all night- and gets shot by some local with a rifle.

Yeh.  It's on my list page one. 

That was the first film I ever saw advertised on the thing called the Interwebz  :wink: the first time I ever used the Net and it was described as a "warm, friendly, fuzzy film"  :buggedout: :buggedout:  :wink:

Seriously it scared the crap out of me.  :buggedout:

The Package (1989)

The bad guy gets taken out at the end by another bad guy.  :buggedout:

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The same sort of thing happens in The Long Good Friday.

Thinking about this thread, after my last post, I came up with some more, where the bad guys might win.

Gettysburg
Who's the villain in that? The North or the South?

Glory
No doubt as who are our heroes in that one, and they lost.

Though, we Americans are not the only ones to make films about our war times losses. While I have never seen these in their entirety, only clips, I know the Germans made films about . . .
Stalingrad. They lost.
Battle of Berlin. They lost.

"A bridge too far". The XXXXing nazis won.

Surely the ones defending their homeland against an invader are the good guys.

The Usual Suspects

In Halloween III the ending pretty much leads you to believe that the bad guy managed to achieve his plans, and all the kids turned into bug meat. That movie is awesome yet it got such a bad reputation just because its name. :(

Night gallery episode "Pamela's voice".  As someone who's suffered at the mouths of a few "Pamelas" I can tell you she was the bad guy in that episode. John Austin killed her in self defense.