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Title: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Sitting Duck on January 04, 2019, 03:45:11 PM
I'm sure many of you are familiar with the term Jump the Shark, a point in a TV show life when it has unequivocally become a dumpster fire. But usually a show's degradation is more gradual than that. Perhaps an annoying character is introduced and becomes more prominently featured as episodes go by. Or a once promising theme or storyline fails to pan out. The realization that your once favorite show is now a disaster may ultimately come about from something fairly trivial, the metaphorical straw that broke the camel's back. So how did shows you once liked jump the camel for you?

I'll start out with Supernatural. Initially I liked the way it combined spook lore and Americana. The fact that it was way better at evoking the spirit of Kolchak than the official Kolchak remake that came out the same year was also a point in its favor. But then problems slowly cropped up. The Demon War storyline was problematic from the start, as not many writers are capable of doing religious-themed horror well. So having it become increasingly central to the series was troubling. Attempts to ratchet up the Challenge Rating of the episodes only served to make the Winchester Boys come off as increasingly incompetent. Then there was the use of third act twists. The first few times they were employed, they were capably handled. But they became increasingly implausible the more they were used. The one that made me give up occurred in the episode with the stage magicians. The twist for that one was so absurd, M. Night Shyamalan would have been too ashamed to use it.


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on January 04, 2019, 05:52:51 PM
never watched it but even i know that show had bobby ewing's death be a dream. Yeah, no.


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Ticonderoga 64 on January 06, 2019, 08:12:02 AM
The show that has most recently jumped the camel, shark or whatever, is DOCTOR WHO..this most recent season has been the WORST in the show's 55 year history. From the God-awful miscasting of the female Doctor to the Sesame Street PC police writing, it has been one big s**t-show of the lowest order sadly. They need to fire Jodie Whitaker's permanantly constipated-looking Doctor along with the talentless companions and SJW producer..if not, then just cancel the damn thing as it is a travesty as it stands now.


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on January 06, 2019, 04:28:22 PM
Can you show me on the doll where the SJW touched you?

(http://filipinofreethinkers.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/doll-where-did-he-touch-you-child-abuse-creepy.jpg)


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Ticonderoga 64 on January 06, 2019, 07:06:17 PM
He tried to "touch" me in my area that smells bulls**t, which is I why I resent that. I dont need a dickhead to preach to me, on a television show or anywhere else. Especially when he and his lead actress practice much of the same injustices that they rail against only in reverse. Please save your sarcasm for your usual victims.


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: RCMerchant on January 07, 2019, 01:32:35 PM
M*A*S*H.
After Trapper John and MacClean Stevenson left the show, it turned to s**t. Klinger even stopped wearing his dress! And Frank left!
Didn't help that it stopped being funny and turned into a Preach Fest.


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Allhallowsday on January 07, 2019, 02:54:43 PM
M*A*S*H.
After Trapper John and MacClean Stevenson left the show, it turned to s**t. Klinger even stopped wearing his dress! And Frank left!
Didn't help that it stopped being funny and turned into a Preach Fest.
It was always a "preach fest" as far as I'm concerned.  I think the show got better in the later years, and I always liked DAVID OGDEN STIERS (Charles) the best.  I also preferred HARRY MORGAN as the C.O. to McLEAN STEVENSON (who later stated his biggest career mistake was leaving the show. 



Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Sitting Duck on January 08, 2019, 03:18:40 PM
Funnily enough, New Who was another show that jumped the camel for me. Initially I enjoyed it, as the stories were predominantly good and the upgrade in production values was nice. But niggling issues began to pile up. First I thought Rose was a rather mediocre Companion, and it was a relief when Martha replaced her. Another thing that bugged me was having the Doctor and Companion have romantic yearnings for each other, which sadly continued with Martha. Then there were the season finales, which pretty much always got resolved by hitting a reset button. While the one for the third season was particularly obnoxious, it was the fourth season finale which drove me over the edge. They make a big deal over it featuring the characters from Sarah Jane and Torchwood, only to sideline those characters almost immediately and have them contribute exactly jack squat.


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on January 09, 2019, 11:19:26 PM
You know I watched the battlestar galactica reboot and thought it jumped the shark a couple times,  like the "bucket drop" scene ....

https://youtu.be/evodPpqb9H4

Or the whole "final 5" thing.

But both times the series recovered.

Then in the last half of the last episode,  the show covered itself in bloody fish guts,  the a running start and jumped directly into the shark's mouth while yelling "LEEEEERRROOOOOY JENNNNNNKIIIIIINS"!  at the top of its lungs...  :buggedout: :bluesad:  :hatred:


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: quabrot on January 23, 2019, 11:09:22 AM
M*A*S*H.
After Trapper John and MacClean Stevenson left the show, it turned to s**t. Klinger even stopped wearing his dress! And Frank left!
Didn't help that it stopped being funny and turned into a Preach Fest.
It was always a "preach fest" as far as I'm concerned.  I think the show got better in the later years, and I always liked DAVID OGDEN STIERS (Charles) the best.  I also preferred HARRY MORGAN as the C.O. to McLEAN STEVENSON (who later stated his biggest career mistake was leaving the show. 



I definitely prefer the later years of M*A*S*H and the later cast.  Most of all Winchester was a much more interesting character than Frank Burns.  I think the jump the shark/camel time for the show was when they got a lot more experimental.  They did an episode in real time, and episode from a first person perspective, and the surreal dream episode.


Title: Re: Shows that jump the camel
Post by: Svengoolie 3 on January 23, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
Law and order. I understand that jerry orbach wasn't immortal, had cancer,  had to retire and died not long after.

The show never  really filled the void he left,  no one really measured up to him.