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I've  heard Kubirick's A clockwork orange is on netflix for a while now.

JOOC what do bad movies denizens think of this movie?

I like it.  Seen it quite a few times, though it's been years since my last viewing.

Like so many classics which gave the apartheid censors tummy trouble, this was banned and remained so for years.

Love it. One of my favorites. Gave it a "must see" rating.

It was unavailable in Kubrick's native Britain for many years as well. He voluntarily pulled it from distribution there in 1973 after several supposed "copy cat" crimes were allegedly inspired by the film. It wasn't re-released there till after Kubrick died in 1999.

i hate it. curtis loves it. go figure. :cheers:

i own it on blu-ray which is always better than Netflix i'm sorry i prefer owning it, i mean hell movies do leave netflix all the time and i can watch it anytime i want when i put in the disc. but to each their own who want to watch it streaming

Great movie.  :thumbup:

You know, ACO fans might be interested to know the movie cut the last part of the book out.  The original novel had a final chapter in such Alex,  area years after the end of the movie, sees an old droog,  pete,    with a wife and child.  He realizes pete's life is actually far richer than his own in personal and emotional terms and decides to essentially stop indulging in his pointless violence,  try finding someone to love and becomes a better  person.



Alex wakes up in a hospital, where he is courted by government officials anxious to counter the bad publicity created by his suicide attempt. Placed in a mental institution, Alex is offered a well-paying job if he agrees to side with the government. A round of tests reveals that his old violent impulses have returned, indicating that the hospital doctors have undone the effects of his conditioning. As photographers snap pictures, Alex daydreams of orgiastic violence and reflects, "I was cured all right."

In the final chapter, Alex finds himself halfheartedly preparing for yet another night of crime with a new gang (Lenn, Rick, Bully). After a chance encounter with Pete, who has reformed and married, Alex finds himself taking less and less pleasure in acts of senseless violence. He begins contemplating giving up crime himself to become a productive member of society and start a family of his own, while reflecting on the notion that his own children could possibly end up being just as destructive as he has been, if not more so.

IMO Kubrick improved the story greatly by omitting Burgess' epilogue.

A lot of people feel that way, but they kiss that burgess was trying to say real change comes when a person decides to, not when he's forced to.

I didn't miss that. I, like many (most?) others, think the ending feels false and weakens his point. It is more forceful when we are faced with the argument that it is better for us to tolerate Alex's evil than to coerce good behavior. Burgess presenting evil as "just a phase" in an epilogue was really a huge blot on a book that was otherwise a masterpiece. Kubrick was right to omit it.

I also think Kubrick turned a pretty pedestrian novel THE SHINING into a masterpiece, although I know Trevor feels the exact opposite.

Yes, kubrick was a great movie maker. He hired A.C. Clarke to write a great SF novel because he wanted to do a great SF movie. You should read "the lost worlds of 2001" to see clarke's comments on working with him.

He was a very brave man, when he did Spartacus he openly defied "the black list" and hired "verboten" writers who had not cooperated with McArthy's jihad.

The only thing I ever disliked about him was how he screwed over the makers of the movie "failsafe" because it conflicted with "Dr.Stragelove.

Films with rape scenes always repel me.  I think it's a great movie.  I hate it. 

Ever see 'galaxy of terror"?

exactly! it's the same for me with apocalypse now and 'night mother. brilliant work, but i still hate them.

Depends on the context.
Kubrick's film and junk like I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE are  galaxy's apart.
GALAXY OF TERROR is in a catogory apart just because it's so cheesy goofy.
Why would an outer space maggot even wanna f**k a human, let alone Joanie Cunningham?  :question:

A Clockwork Orange fascinated me as a kid, although I wouldn't see it until I was well into adulthood. The most I had seen were some publicity stills and screen captures in a great book called Sci-Fi Now (1978) by Alan Frank. (In the years of the internet, I began the process of tracking down every movie that interested me in that book, what a fun ride that was!)

As a teenager, I read the book many times and started speaking in Nadsat. Friends even referred to me as Alex at one point. Weirdly, the movie wasn't at all what I thought it was going to be, and even now, I don't remember it too well. Perhaps I should watch it again.

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I will never forget going to see that in 1980: I had a copy of the book with me and the cinema manager let me in just as it started (he knew my folks) and I was so distressed, I came home in tears because I wanted to see the book I read and loved on the screen.

I got the book from my high school library and the English teacher I had was so shocked he nearly threw me out of class: the same happened when I got 1984 to read, in 1984 as it happened.

After that, if he asked me what I was reading, I said I wasn't.  :wink:

That plaace was all about fears,  that blonde had a fear of maggots it would see.

Also joanie didnct get raped by the maggot,  she got crushed by vines.

i felt that  pain also, trev. i walked out halfway through it on my first official date with my husband. he married me anyway, and i now really like kubrick's version. :cheers:

when the tigers attacked the two las vegas animal trainer guys it was like clockwork orange redux.

"that tiger didn't go crazy, that tiger went tiger" - Chris rock

I kinda like the original ACO ending. See, I read the american version and saw the movie and i really had mixed feelings on Alex. On one hand he was cleatrly bright, highly intelligent, literate, etc. In some ways an intellectual.

On the other he was a monster I wanted to personally shoot in the head twice to make sure.

With him self reforming in the author's version it kinda reconciles me two feelings on him

I never read the book.

As far as the SHINING goes- I like the way Kubrick did it. It was more cinematic.
Of course I love the book as well- and it works in it's context-the written word. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
It's like saying-"What's better- the book Frankenstein by Mary Shelly, or the '31 movie by Whale with Karloff?"
Both are good in different ways.

Yeah-yer right!   :buggedout: Maybe I just wished it was Joanie Cunningham. (heavy sigh  :bluesad:)
That movie was a remake of JOURNEY TO THE 7TH PLANET!

The Shining is the ultimate word of warning to people with delusions about "free time" and "space". You might end up bored and going out of your gourd pretty fast

It's in my top 10 movies of all time. When I got my first (Beta format) VCR, I rented it and watched it about 10 times. I have the DVD now.

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